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bleuer 05-23-2006, 05:28 AM Edmonton vs. Anaheim, Game 3
Tue, May 23 - 8:00 pm EDT
TV: OLN, CBC
PLAYOFF TEAM LEADERS: Mighty Ducks - Joffrey Lupul, 7 goals and 29 PIM; Niedermayer, Todd Marchant and Francois Beauchemin, 6 assists; Selanne, 10 points. Oilers - Pisani, 8 goals; Pronger, 11 assists; Shawn Horcoff, 15 points; Georges Laraque, 17 PIM.
PLAYOFF SPECIAL TEAMS: Mighty Ducks - Power play: 11.8 percent (9 for 76). Penalty killing: 89.3 percent (67 for 75). Oilers - Power play: 21.3 percent (16 for 75). Penalty killing: 87.5 percent (77 for 88).
GOALTENDERS: Mighty Ducks - Bryzgalov (6-3, 3 SO, 1.10 GAA); Jean-Sebastien Giguere (2-2, 3.88). Oilers - Roloson (10-4, 2.01); Jussi Markkanen (no appearances).
USATODAY (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores106/106143/NHL703666.htm)
``...It was a better effort than we had the other night, and we have to find a way to change the momentum,'' Anaheim coach Randy Carlyle said. ``We maintained a fairly good puck possession for periods of time, but we didn't find a way to get the puck inside often enough.
``Everything seems to be going their way at the moment, and we have to find some way to turn the tide.''
One way might be a return to dominating form by the rookie Bryzgalov, who shut out Calgary in Game 7 of the first round before blanking Colorado in the next two games en route to Anaheim's four-game sweep. Bryzgalov has allowed only four goals in this series, as Edmonton has two empty netters, but he's been unable to match Roloson.
The Ducks also need to start to getting production from their top offensive players. Teemu Selanne and Andy McDonald had a team-best 90 and 85 points this season, respectively, but Selanne is pointless in the first two games while McDonald has one goal. Both players have a minus-3 rating in the series.
It is crucial for Anaheim offensively to find a way to create more traffic in front of Roloson. Big Oilers defenseman Pronger and Jason Smith have led an outstanding effort by Edmonton to keep pucks out of the middle in its own zone.
``I think today's game was better where we had more chances and we could have scored more,'' Ducks defenseman Scott Niedermayer said. ``Obviously, their guy played well at net and made some big saves for them. Another game like that and I think we're going to find the back of the net more than we did tonight.''
Anaheim will have to do that if it wants to beat Edmonton for just the second time in the last 15 meetings overall.
The Oilers are 13-0 in best-of-seven series when they win the first two games, although they haven't been in that situation since 1990, when they captured their fifth Stanley Cup.
McDonald Says His Line Has Tried to Do Too Much (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-spw-duckoilrep23may23,1,3356505.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks)
Center Andy McDonald acknowledged that his line, which includes right wing Teemu Selanne and left wing Chris Kunitz, has tried to do too much in the first two games.
The trio's only point has come on McDonald's power-play goal in Game 1 and they've been a combined minus-eight. In contrast, Edmonton goaltender Dwayne Roloson has two assists.
"We want to simplify our game," McDonald said. "The frustration of not scoring may have caused us to play outside ourselves."
Ducks Coach Randy Carlyle tried to shake things up in Game 2 by switching his left wings around. Rookie Dustin Penner, who was playing with Todd Marchant and Joffrey Lupul, played alongside McDonald and Selanne while Kunitz at times played alongside Marchant and Lupul.
It's Tough to Win in Edmonton (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckoilrep23may23,1,436107.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks)
Teemu Selanne was there that night. So was Todd Marchant.
It was Feb. 24, 1999. The Mighty Ducks won, 2-1, in what was then Skyreach Centre in Edmonton with Paul Kariya scoring the game-winning goal. Craig Hartsburg was the coach, Selanne was on his first tour in Anaheim and Marchant was a young center on the Oilers.
It was also the last time the Ducks won in this city. Twelve defeats and an arena name change later, the team faces a mighty task in trying to break that streak and get back in the Western Conference finals when they play the Oilers in Game 3 tonight at Rexall Place.
But while there has been plenty of talk about the streak, these Ducks insist it is not coming from them. "That's more of a media-generated thing," center Andy McDonald said. "We don't even talk about it in the dressing room."
ktulu98 05-23-2006, 08:13 AM lets goooooooooooooooooooo duckies :clap:
you were better team in those 2games, you know you can beat them so do it :)
Ducksforcup 05-23-2006, 10:23 AM LETS GO DUCKS!!! :) :yo:
GL all! :)
Safir* 05-23-2006, 01:03 PM All Ducks should give a 110% to prevent the team from falling in the 3-0 hole. That hole is a near death situation (as a Sens fan I know it, how it felt like.)
How do the big Ducks matchup against Pronger and Smith? Perhaps the coach should try to juggle the line a little. Can't you put Penner on the first line? :dunno:
Getting the powerplay back the level of the regular season is also a must.
Let's Go :ducks (god it feels weird to say it.lol)
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 01:40 PM After seeing the way that Penner was able to create chances against Pronger, I wouldn't be at all shocked to see Penner with Selanne and MacDonald. The only concern would be his foot speed, and keeping up with the other two, but that wasn't much of a problem for Rucchin with Selanne and Kariya.
soya_sauce_chicken 05-23-2006, 01:50 PM C'mon Ducks..
Let's get the win..
Can't believe the last time we won there was with KARIYA and Selanne
agentfouser 05-23-2006, 02:05 PM ``Everything seems to be going their way at the moment, and we have to find some way to turn the tide.''
too bad beauchemin can't slap around iginla again. that would do the trick
OilerOlli* 05-23-2006, 02:20 PM Edmonton will win 5-2
GO OILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
bleuer 05-23-2006, 02:25 PM Edmonton will win 5-2
GO OILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
you're on the wrong board, dude :) but that will all come back to you :teach: baaaaaaaad kaarmaaaaaaaa...
OilerOlli* 05-23-2006, 02:42 PM you're on the wrong board, dude :) but that will all come back to you :teach: baaaaaaaad kaarmaaaaaaaa...
*lol* Sorry, I didn't want to troll here. But in the past it brought the Oilers luck when I came to the opponent board in the playoffs and predicted an Oiler win.
So relax, the Oilers will win so or so ;)
Digger12 05-23-2006, 02:45 PM I'm not going to predict one team or the other winning this game, but I will predict with a high degree of certainty that we're not going to see the same snoozefests that comprised games 1 and 2.
I'm hoping both teams come out flying tonight, and kicking this series into another gear.
I would expect to see a much better Selanne, he's my perpetual worry as an Oiler fan.
Maybe we need Beauchemin to tune Smyth? Maybe Pisani? :dunno:
millax 05-23-2006, 03:20 PM Maybe we need Beauchemin to tune Smyth? Maybe Pisani? :dunno:
Why doesn't he try his luck with Laraque.. :D
Pwnasaurus 05-23-2006, 03:21 PM Ducks will play their best game of the series tonight with their backs to the wall proverbially. Whether that is enough to win or not remains to be seen. I know they will certainly come out flying, they have too many character guys in that locker room me thinks. If they can get Game 3 it will put some pressure back on Edmonton at home in Game 4, if not it is certainly over. Series is tonight boys.
I'm thinking either it'll be a tight, tight game again that could go either way, or the Ducks will fall behind early and have things snowball on them and lose by like 5.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 03:56 PM I have a good feeling about this game, which is more than I could say for the previous two games. We need to put a lot of pressure on Roloson and get a guy in there to grab at the rebounds. Also from what I noticed, we need to shoot high on him. All the low shots don't seem to bother Roloson too much and he stops them pretty easily.
Insta 05-23-2006, 04:46 PM The Oilers are pretty much all in their beds trying to overcome the flu, if the Ducks cant beat a team that is hooked up on IV's, they may as well not play game4.
The Oilers are pretty much all in their beds trying to overcome the flu, if the Ducks cant beat a team that is hooked up on IV's, they may as well not play game4.
Thanks for dropping by, good bye now.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 04:55 PM Well this is a must win in a place the Ducks haven't won in 12 tries. Every streak eventually comes to an end and it would be nice if the Ducks turned that in to 2 wins in their last 14 tires after Thursday night. Bryz has to match Roloson tonight, no questionable goals like Tuesday. Forwards have to start making life tough for Rolson. Get in front of him, bump him a little bit, try to do anything that might make him blink on a shot. Life has been too easy for him in the first two games. Getting a lead would help too. Oilers have been able to grab a lead and sit back like in the 1st two games. If the Ducks can get a lead and make the Oilers press a little bit, it might lead to mistakes. Just get it done.
caliamad 05-23-2006, 05:15 PM Me thinks you'll be seering guys more willing to pay the price in front of the net with the series on the line.
I expect the ducks to leave everything out there this game and to not make as many cute plays.
Edmonton hasn't generated very much offense, and the goals they have scored have come off turnovers and powerplays. We eliminate that and we put pressure on them to score and I think it will be a whole new ball game.
I have a feeling God is going to go for a hatrick.
oilerfanatic 05-23-2006, 05:59 PM this game is yours to win...half the oilers roster is out due to the flu... y
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 06:13 PM this game is yours to win...half the oilers roster is out due to the flu... y
Good to see the pre-made excuses are in fine form... :sarcasm:
Just kiddin of course, we'll see if it has any outcome on the game though.
Heavy Fuel 05-23-2006, 06:46 PM I really like that kid of yours, Beauchemin, that scrap with Iggy was great. Can't see him fighting Laraque, though, Georges is a true heavyweight(who is left handed himself, so he will be ready) who rarely goes down in weight class.
Matt Greene would be a more likely matchup, haven't seen him fight a lot, he probably isn't as fast as Beauchemin, but is very strong. With the games close, there hasn't been any scrapping, but if a team is up near the end, who knows?
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 06:50 PM this game is yours to win...half the oilers roster is out due to the flu... y
didn't help us last game! the home crowd will probably get the adrenaline going and make the sick guys play better.
Bottom line for us fans: if they lose, we pretty much no longer have an emotional attachment, and since teams rarely come back from 3-0 defecits this IS our game 7!
ahh man over on the oilers board a very reliable source just told us that half the team is affected by the flu :cry: THEY NEED TO TAKE SOME COLD FX!!!!!
soya_sauce_chicken 05-23-2006, 07:52 PM ahh man over on the oilers board a very reliable source just told us that half the team is affected by the flu :cry: THEY NEED TO TAKE SOME COLD FX!!!!!
i hope they get anthrax so we can win the dam series already.. ;)
Osprey 05-23-2006, 08:02 PM I have full confidence in the Ducks. They can do this.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 08:07 PM Just got the flash. We're going to win tonight.
soya_sauce_chicken 05-23-2006, 08:12 PM Just got the flash. We're going to win tonight.
i hope it was a girl that flashed you and not some guy with a long trench coat...
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 08:16 PM Fridge and Laraque in a fight, wasn't much of one.
This game is very physical, good to see.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 08:24 PM Another fight, DiPenta and Moreau.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 08:29 PM Physical start so far.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 08:34 PM Roloson's mask sure does come off pretty easily.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 08:43 PM Edmonton scores, big mistake by Bryz.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 08:45 PM everytime Anaheim messes up, Edmonton always seems to capitalize, almost every single time.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 08:45 PM *sigh* Come on Bryz.
Someone make this stop :cry:.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 08:49 PM This is the most frustrating period all season. Besides scoring on the pp, they're doing everything they need to do, and getting absolutely no reward.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 08:54 PM Complaining about getting snowed? Roloson, you pansy-*** vagina. Put a ****ing skirt on.
This might be the biggest game this season and I am stuck in school... :(
McDonald19 05-23-2006, 08:57 PM wow...Ducks just aren't meant to win this series...they dominate the period, throw everything they have at the Oilers...and then the Oilers get a stupid goal like that.
the breaks keep coming for the Oilers. The post helped Roloson early in the period. That would have been a huge goal for the Ducks, but they just can't seem to get the first goal in a game this series.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 08:57 PM Playing Edmonton is like swimming through mud. The thought of these clods beating a far more entertaining Buffalo or Carolina squad is too depressing to think about.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 08:58 PM I don't know what makes me more frustrated, that last period or that commercial for the new lame A&E reality series.
McDonald19 05-23-2006, 08:58 PM This is the most frustrating period all season. Besides scoring on the pp, they're doing everything they need to do, and getting absolutely no reward.
yup. Powerplay is letting us down. The Oilers don't have that much offense. If we could just get the Powerplay going we'd have a chance...but instead were looking at another 2-1 loss (3-1 with Empty net).
The Ducks look like the better team but the hockey gods want the Oilers in the finals.
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 09:00 PM This sucks. We play our best period of the series...and we are down 1-0.
Duckstudd269 05-23-2006, 09:06 PM I hope Burke doesn't trade Jiggy in the offseaon. Bryz has not really impressed me. He's had a few good games, but really hasn't been tested that much. Also his stupid mistake gives the Oilers the lead that they will sit on the rest of the game. This series has definitely shown that the Ducks definitely need a top notch LW.
In my honest opinon I think this game is already over. :shakehead
Oilers will win 2-0 with an empty net goal.
oilerfanatic 05-23-2006, 09:09 PM show some pride guys...the ducks certainly ain't out of this one...it was a bad period for the oil...luckily our pk was solid...we gotta step it up 5 on 5...
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 09:10 PM Ducks just need to keep the pressure on. Eventually they are going to get something by Roloson. Andy Mac and Bryz need to make better decisions. Those two mistakes ruined a 5 on 3 chance and put the Oil up 1-0.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 09:11 PM Edmonton doesn't have a great offense, but their defense / shot blocking is probably one of the best there is right now.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:25 PM Apparently you can hold up guys on the forecheck now...
Oops, not when you're a Duck.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:26 PM Apparently you can hold up guys on the forecheck now...
Oops, not when you're a Duck.
That's okay, our power play sucks anyway.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:27 PM They've just gotta keep up the pressure here. Every player on the Ducks is contributing right now, something's gotta give.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:28 PM That's okay, our power play sucks anyway.
True that.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:28 PM The Ducks have to stop passing the puck wide when they have it behind the net. It ain't working.
And Jesus, don't just let them kill time on the clock. Full ice press!
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:30 PM Why does it feel like we're trailing 3-0 instead of 1-0? It's like trying to climb Kilimanjaro just to get one stinking quality scoring opportunity. God, I hate the Oilers.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:31 PM Stop with the point shots. Not... working. I don't know what would work, but that doesn't.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:32 PM Christ.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:35 PM It doesn't help when Lupul's doing his best Chris Pronger impression, driving it high and hard to clear the zone, only it was supposed to be a dump in.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 09:35 PM Teemu needs to pull his head out his *** and do something.
deesee 05-23-2006, 09:37 PM Please stop passing and just throw the puck at the goal.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:37 PM Teemu needs to pull his head out his *** and do something.
He's being doing everything but putting the puck in the back of the net. Unfortunately, thats only thing we need right now.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:38 PM It doesn't help when Lupul's doing his best Chris Pronger impression, driving it high and hard to clear the zone, only it was supposed to be a dump in.
Why is Lupul on the PK anyway?
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 09:39 PM Jesus. Well, you can't say the Ducks aren't driving the net.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:39 PM Why is Lupul on the PK anyway?
Not sure, but sadly enough I was referring to the pp.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:39 PM One goal, God. That's all I'm asking. I swear, I think the heavens would open up if we scored.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:40 PM There you go Loops, good effort.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:40 PM Not sure, but sadly enough I was referring to the pp.
Oh.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:41 PM Christ Kuntiz, make a play or get it deep
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:41 PM Jesus. Come ON, already.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:43 PM This is shaping up to be the worst Ducks game I've ever watched. At least New Jersey was nice enough to rip my heart out early in Game Seven.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:44 PM I like the Oilers dressing room. That's pretty cool.
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 09:45 PM They're actually trying to set a record for lowest shooting percentage and most time in the offensive zone without scoring.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:45 PM Easily the most frustrating.
Clearly they are focused on shutting down Selanne's space in the neutral zone. Thats fine, but it means someone else has to have space. When the puck finds that guy, he has to make a play. It hasn't happened yet. Their approach seems to be, shut down Selanne and make the rest of the team beat us. Its working to a T.
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 09:46 PM Nice move by Selanne. He's the Ducks best forward this game...just can't buy a goal.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 09:46 PM Nice play by Teemu. Now let's get something done power play.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:48 PM Take your time getting up ice, guys. No pressure. The clock's not running or anything. This series is best of eleven, right?
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:49 PM I'll assert that the Ducks have carried the play for all three games now, but I can't say that the Oilers don't deserve to have the advantage. They make NO mistakes.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 09:49 PM :cry: Why can't we do anything on the PP?
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:49 PM Hey, how did Stoll know Perry was going to pass it back to the point? Oh yeah, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS ****ING DO THAT!
Still stuck in school, it sounds like we are doing everything BUT putting the puck in the net...
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:50 PM Oh god that's freaking terrible
deesee 05-23-2006, 09:50 PM PASSING THE PUCK TO BEAUCHEMIN ON THE POINT DOES NOT HELP!!!11
Why do we keep doing that?
PASSING THE PUCK TO BEAUCHEMIN ON THE POINT DOES NOT HELP!!!11
Why do we keep doing that?
Because Beauchemin's shot is "a gift of nature." At least that's what he said...
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 09:52 PM Argh. Just, argh. This is frustrating.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:53 PM Have we attempted a triangle/cycle sort of pp yet in this series? We're going to have to generate from down low, but because the point shots aren't getting through. When we have the puck behind the net, and a guy on the top of the crease without an Oiler on him, just put it in the crease.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 09:54 PM Because Beauchemin's shot is "a gift of nature." At least that's what he said...
I love the French.
Snap Wilson 05-23-2006, 09:55 PM It takes a supreme amount of sacrifice to win the Stanley Cup. It's becoming more apparent that the Ducks aren't prepared to make that sacrifice this year. Edmonton is content to let us carry the play, as long as we don't genuinely threaten them. We're content to take what they offer and not ask for more.
I love this team, but they don't have it. Hopefully, we'll get another shot next year.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 09:55 PM We're finished, this is just like November. Outplay teams, make 1 or 2 mistakes, can't score lose.
PP is atrocious, this team doesn't have it anymore I don't think. If you outplay a team for atleast the last five periods and can only manage one goal it's not meant to be.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 09:57 PM i dont know if its Anaheims PP thats horrible or Edmontons PK is that good.
San Jose, generated absolutely nothing through all 6 games on their powerplay as well.
coolwasabi 05-23-2006, 09:58 PM There's still 1 period left in this game. Why are you guys quitting already?
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:00 PM There's still 1 period left in this game. Why are you guys quitting already?
What's there to look forward too?
name one break the ducks have gotten in this series and then compare it to the Oilers getting atleast 2 gift goals.
if you keep outplaying a team and still can't score you're cooked.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:04 PM Put up or shut up time.
Lyons71 05-23-2006, 10:04 PM 'outplaying' is not what i'd call it. edmonton has been in full control the entire time. think the way our team played in 03. same kind of thing.
i dont know if its Anaheims PP thats horrible or Edmontons PK is that good.
Both. Anaheim's PP was on fire for about two weeks all season long. Other than that it ranged from mediocre to putrid.
Jerky Leclerc 05-23-2006, 10:05 PM The Ducks need divine help to score.
:bow:
sammyp 05-23-2006, 10:05 PM There's still 1 period left in this game. Why are you guys quitting already?
First off, don't pretend like you care. You should be happy that your team is getting all the breaks and will be going to the Stanley Cup Finals. Second, there is nothing to watch for. I sware, the Ducks have zero chance of winning this series, ZERO. The moment that Peterson scored that goal, I just laughed and turned the TV off.
'outplaying' is not what i'd call it. edmonton has been in full control the entire time. think the way our team played in 03. same kind of thing.
Yeah, it's play it tight for as long as you can, then jump on the slightest mistake. But if Anaheim's making those kinds of mistakes and Edmonton's not, then no they're not outplaying the Oil. At best, you could call it even, and perhaps if we were getting the same kind of goaltending as Edmonton those one or two mistakes would get erased, but goalies are part of the team too.
deesee 05-23-2006, 10:12 PM I still believe, we can score ONE goal. There's no reason we should give up already.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:14 PM Getzlaf misses, Peca scores. Story of the series.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:15 PM :cry:
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 10:16 PM Peca has been amazing this serioes.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:17 PM Edmonton scores again. Oh well.
taunting canadian 05-23-2006, 10:18 PM I think Bryzgalov now knows how Toskala felt... what's his save percentage in this game? But the last two goals, at least, were not his problem at all...
BowDown2Chistov 05-23-2006, 10:18 PM blowchiem gets caught again, I sware I dont know why everyone thinks he that great he like ozo gives up plays and dosent back check.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:19 PM I wanna kick a puppy right now.
Well not really. I'm just frustrated.
Osprey 05-23-2006, 10:19 PM Getzlaf had an empty net and missed. If you can't score the easy goals, you're not going to score.
Bryzgalov should've known that Peca was going to shoot into that corner, as he always does.
This team needed a pick-up. Giguere probably should've started. I didn't like how uncaring they looked coming out of the dressing room. This game hasn't looked any different than the first two.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:19 PM Every mistake the Ducks make, the Oilers capitalize. The Oilers don't make mistakes. They deserve all the credit in the world.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 10:20 PM penalty to anaheim.. also, that pass by Samsonov was great. that was such a fast play.
sammyp 05-23-2006, 10:21 PM Alright well, lets just look forward to next season and hope we can get further than we got this year.
deesee 05-23-2006, 10:21 PM Just put in Jiggy and see if that lights a fire under anyone's ***.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:22 PM Now were just taking dumb penalties. Boys have mailed it in.
HabsBaby18* 05-23-2006, 10:22 PM LoL !!
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:22 PM This is disgusting. :shakehead
Just put in Jiggy and see if that lights a fire under anyone's ***.
Well, that would serve no purpose at this point, unless you want to spread the embarrassment around to everyone.
Osprey 05-23-2006, 10:23 PM The Ducks, with all of these penalties, are giving an early preview of how they're going to come out for Game 4: they're going to curl up and die. What a shame.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:24 PM That sequence with Getzlaf and Peca completely changed the game.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:26 PM Now the puck goes in....
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:26 PM O'Donnell scores. Forgive me for a lack of enthusiasm right now.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:27 PM just end this season now, another meltdown :shakehead these guys lost something with that break..the ability to score.
Might as well play Giguere for the final game and see if he can raise his trade value.
and now we'll have to deal with an influx of people trying to start flame wars.
I lost all my faith in sports.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:29 PM The Ducks, with all of these penalties, are giving an early preview of how they're going to come out for Game 4: they're going to curl up and die. What a shame.
Hardly, its a natural boil over of frustrations. I expect they'll come out hard and aggressive once again. Hell, they may even catch an early break or two.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:29 PM O'Donnell scores. Forgive me for a lack of enthusiasm right now.
it's like Roloson decides to rub salt in the wound.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:31 PM Teemu scores. 4-2.
I say put Giguere next game and hope he pulls a '03 run and win four in a row. Anyone with me?
Anyone?
Might as well play Giguere for the final game and see if he can raise his trade value.
Are you kidding? If anything, this makes me want to trade him even less.
Bryzgalov hasn't embarrassed himself, but he's failed to make the absolute-had-to-have-that saves. Do you really look at his work this series and think, "boy, we could win a Cup with this guy?"
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:31 PM And now Teemu scores. They're doing this to give us a false sense of hope, only to score two goals in the last minute and just rip our hearts out.
:(
Osprey 05-23-2006, 10:33 PM Hardly, its a natural boil over of frustrations. I expect they'll come out hard and aggressive once again. Hell, they may even catch an early break or two.Coming out "hard and aggressive once again" won't be enough, as it hasn't these three games. They need passion, and I haven't seen any from them all series. They look completely different than they did a few weeks ago. Like RallyKiller said, they really lost something over the break.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:33 PM For a few minutes the Oilers have lost their focus, and we quickly score two. 10 minutes, 2 goals. At least the players haven't given up.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:33 PM Are you kidding? If anything, this makes me want to trade him even less.
Bryzgalov hasn't embarrassed himself, but he's failed to make the absolute-had-to-have-that saves. Do you really look at his work this series and think, "boy, we could win a Cup with this guy?"
I don't care what they decide, go with him in game 4 bryzgalov lost the magic with the long break.
and teemu can suck it waiting until we're down 4-1 before deciding to score a goal.
and this is where the meltdowns come back to bite us in the ***.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:34 PM I lost all my faith in sports.
Hey, why not. The Clippers lost last night and now the Ducks are losing. At least there's the World Cup to look forward to. I hope.
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 10:34 PM I say put Giguere next game and hope he pulls a '03 run and win four in a row. Anyone with me?
Anyone?
Nothing to lose. But it's a crappy situation to put him in. Kind of a "mop up" role if anything.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:34 PM Coming out "hard and aggressive once again" won't be enough, as it hasn't these three games. They need passion, and I haven't seen any from them all series. They look completely different than they did a few weeks ago. Like RallyKiller said, they really lost something over the break.
Coming out hard and aggressive has everything to do with passion. Scoring goals is about execution, and thats whats been lacking.
I don't care what they decide, go with him in game 4 bryzgalov lost the magic with the long break.
Exactly ... he's a two-week wonder, so why still have faith in him as a full-time #1?
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:36 PM I don't care what they decide, go with him in game 4 bryzgalov lost the magic with the long break.
and teemu can suck it waiting until we're down 4-1 before deciding to score a goal.
and this is where the meltdowns come back to bite us in the ***.
Yeah, the players definitely "waited" to score. Give me a break.
JOHNBOY 05-23-2006, 10:36 PM so close... :shakehead
I want the Ducks to win this one so bad...
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:37 PM Damn it. That was the break needed and its a few inches short.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:38 PM Kunitz!!!!! 4-3!
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 10:38 PM Woo, lets go boys...
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:38 PM I can't believe this. Where was all this scoring EARLIER in the game?!?!?!
JOHNBOY 05-23-2006, 10:39 PM Damn it. That was the break needed and its a few inches short.
4-3
now how about one of those "breaks"... :yo:
Osprey 05-23-2006, 10:39 PM This is the first real passion that I've seen from the Ducks all series. It's good to see. I hope it's not too late.
asdfalkdflkj;adf;lkas!!!!!!
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:40 PM this is ridiculous, now they are just trying to break our hearts even more. if they hadn't had that meltdown it might be tied right now.
this is ridiculous, now they are just trying to break our hearts even more. if they hadn't had that meltdown it might be tied right now.
But then if they hadn't had that meltdown, Edmonton might not have had a letdown.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:46 PM God damn it. Edmonton scores.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 10:47 PM you knew that they would find a way to blow it.
Good bye hope. Is Giguere coming in?
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:47 PM Thats the backbreaker.
BowDown2Chistov 05-23-2006, 10:47 PM another great defencive effort by blowcheim
Good bye hope. Is Giguere coming in?
I hope not. There's nothing to gain at this point.
taunting canadian 05-23-2006, 10:50 PM Just wanted to say, whatever happens in this final few minutes, the Ducks team has shown tremendous heart in this third period.
Just wanted to say, whatever happens in this final few minutes, the Ducks team has shown tremendous heart in this third period.
Too bad they didn't show it the entire game :( .
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 10:54 PM Ducks scored, but it's being reviewed. Figures.
Edit:It counts, 5-4.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 10:55 PM More hope to be crushed.
JOHNBOY 05-23-2006, 10:57 PM 1:01 Left
FLYING V!!!!!!!
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 11:00 PM there is zero silver lining to this, the ducks stupid penalties and brain farts cost them. I'm pissed off I don't care that they came back. they are finished.
BraveSirRobin 05-23-2006, 11:00 PM Well, it was a good season.
:(
deesee 05-23-2006, 11:00 PM I hate my life.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 11:02 PM This blows.
Tyrolean 05-23-2006, 11:03 PM Great almost comback. It will give them confidence, but 3-0 is almost impossible.
lux_interior 05-23-2006, 11:03 PM I'm disappointed in the final outcome. But I couldn't be more happy with the heart shown by the Ducks. They had every reason to pack it in at 4-0 in the 3rd. They showed me something.
I hate my life.
Geez guys, lighten up! Could be worse, you could be living in Leaf land ... like me ... :cry:
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 11:05 PM I'm disappointed in the final outcome. But I couldn't be more happy with the heart shown by the Ducks. They had every reason to pack it in at 4-0 in the 3rd. They showed me something.
they almost did quit with all the retarded penalties. I don't see how this helps them going forward..the oilers own them.
Ducksforcup 05-23-2006, 11:05 PM You know what? The Ducks made terrible defensive plays that cost them the game. But, I am proud. That's right. I am proud. Not many teams would have come back from 4-0 to score 4 goals and then have the tieing goal bounce over Penner's stick. I am not dissapointed with heart and effort.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 11:07 PM craziest third period i have ever seen.
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 11:09 PM I'm proud they cameback, but it's hard to not remember the practically mailing it in penalties when it was 3-0.
Osprey 05-23-2006, 11:10 PM Well, the series is most likely decided, but at least the end of this game gives hope that the Ducks will actually try in Game 4. At the very least, I want to see them go down fighting.
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 11:12 PM I'm proud they cameback, but it's hard to not remember the practically mailing it in penalties when it was 3-0.
It's kind of hard to accept a moral victory when you're on the verge of being swept.
Cloned 05-23-2006, 11:18 PM It's kind of hard to accept a moral victory when you're on the verge of being swept.
If it's any consolation, as an Oiler fan I'm sitting here in awe of the determination and effort the Ducks showed down 4-0 and then down 5-3. This series has been so tight it could easily be 3-0 Ducks. This just seems to be the Oilers year to make it to the Cup Finals.
The Ducks are and will continue to be a good team in the future. Mr. Burke should be proud, and with him at the helm, you'll be contenders for a while IMO.
CoreyPerry61 05-23-2006, 11:19 PM I believe in miracles
Ducksforcup 05-23-2006, 11:20 PM I believe in miracles
:)
Hockeyfan02 05-23-2006, 11:20 PM I can somewhat accept it. This team is still young and might not be ready to win it all yet. The young guys showed a lot of character tonight. It's not like this is the Sens who have been through playoff battles and are expected to win. This team just showed its inexperience in collapsing in that 5 minute span in the 3rd.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 11:24 PM I'm disappointed in the final outcome. But I couldn't be more happy with the heart shown by the Ducks. They had every reason to pack it in at 4-0 in the 3rd. They showed me something.
I'm 100% with you lux. They aren't a perfect team, and they never play a perfect game. They make mistakes. However, even when they weren't successful they showed heart.
The silver lining in this is the incredible experience that the youngsters are getting right now. It sucks for someone like Selanne who is running out of chances. Gretzky always points to the loss to the Islanders in the Oilers' first Cup appearance as the catalyst for the Dynasty. The experience the kids are getting right now is absolutely invaluable.
I'm very proud of the boys, and excited for what lies ahead for this franchise. I'm expecting another good effort in game 4, and I'd love to see them stretch this out a bit.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 11:26 PM I can somewhat accept it. This team is still young and might not be ready to win it all yet. The young guys showed a lot of character tonight. It's not like this is the Sens who have been through playoff battles and are expected to win. This team just showed its inexperience in collapsing in that 5 minute span in the 3rd.
Good points. As for the collapse, I believe the comeback wouldn't have been possible without an emotional breakdown. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom, and thats what happened tonight.
HabsoluteFate 05-23-2006, 11:31 PM Just want to get a word in now as opposed to waiting until you guys are eliminated since you guys probably would take a message from an outside source easier to take now...I don't want you guys to think i'm trolling...having said all that keep in mind that teams have come back from a 3-0 deficit before...yes it hasnt happened much but one thing these playoffs have shown me...they are nothing like the playoffs of the last 10 years...anything can and has happened...
One thing the Ducks have shown me...I want more teams like this and considering who the final 4s are I think the days of the trap are finally (mostly) away from us....
one more thing....Koivu bring Teemu to Montreal!!!! And yes I realise its never going to happen..damn :)
Reaper45 05-23-2006, 11:32 PM I'm still waiting for Penner to drop the gloves, that kid is a monster.
The silver lining in this is the incredible experience that the youngsters are getting right now. It sucks for someone like Selanne who is running out of chances. Gretzky always points to the loss to the Islanders in the Oilers' first Cup appearance as the catalyst for the Dynasty. The experience the kids are getting right now is absolutely invaluable.
If this year's proven anything, it's that Selanne's still got plenty of time left, so long as he WANTS to stick around. Good on him, I honestly didn't think he had it in him.
But like that Isles-Oilers series, at the end of it I suspect the Oilers will have many more cuts and bruises than the Ducks. It's not that Anaheim's not playing hard, but there's playing hard and then there's playing like your life depends on every last inch of the ice. Hopefully the younger Ducks are taking notes.
SenorDingDong 05-23-2006, 11:38 PM So anyone think Giguere is gonna get the start in game 4?
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 11:44 PM Does anyone else think that 3rd goal could have been prevented if Lupul kept back checking? holy cow all he had to do was skate hard.
kenabnrmal 05-23-2006, 11:46 PM Does anyone else think that 3rd goal could have been prevented if Lupul kept back checking? holy cow all he had to do was skate hard.
My gf gave me **** for yelling "****ing skate!!!!!!" so late at night on that one.
Does anyone else think that 3rd goal could have been prevented if Lupul kept back checking? holy cow all he had to do was skate hard.
Yeah, and the 5th goal could have been prevented by Beauchemin, the 1st goal could have been prevented by Bryzgalov not having a brainlock, etc.
It was a youngster's mistake. One that hopefully he learns from and doesn't do again.
oilerfanatic 05-23-2006, 11:53 PM gotta say...ducks have heart...
Puck33 05-23-2006, 11:54 PM gotta say...ducks have heart...
I gotta say that sounds like a line in the movie..... :D
Randall Graves* 05-23-2006, 11:58 PM Yeah, and the 5th goal could have been prevented by Beauchemin, the 1st goal could have been prevented by Bryzgalov not having a brainlock, etc.
It was a youngster's mistake. One that hopefully he learns from and doesn't do again.
Lupul doesn't seem to learn.
ThisYearsModel 05-24-2006, 12:02 AM Gutsy performance in the third. These games always make you think about what could have been. What if Bryz doesn't brain lock, what if the refs don't call that weak penalty on Selanne, what if they decided to notice Pisani with both feet in the crease Blocking Bryz on the Staios goal. Sometimes it is not meant to be. I agree that the kids are getting some excellent experience. Still, this is a golden opportunity squandered.
Spankatola Jamnuts 05-24-2006, 12:39 AM Friggin BLEH to this whole series.
Im going to break from my usual pessimestic stance and say I think we have a serious shot at winning the next game
* The Oilers sounded pretty ****ing tired at the end of that last period, the "rest" factor is going to kick in right about now
* The ducks will be desperate, none of this spotting a 4 goal lead ****
Bryanbryoil 05-24-2006, 01:18 AM I tip my hat to your team for the remarkable comeback. The Series isn't over, many of the Oilers key guys are sick as dogs, I hope like hell that we can end your teams season on Thursday, or else it could become an absolute dog fight. Even if your team bows out in 4 you guys have nothing to be ashamed of, your team just lacks a few things from becomming an even better team next season. I'm sure that this won't be the last time that we lock horns in the post-season.
Bryanbryoil 05-24-2006, 01:22 AM Good points. As for the collapse, I believe the comeback wouldn't have been possible without an emotional breakdown. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom, and thats what happened tonight.
Agreed, they quit thinking and got to playing. That's where adrenelain and pride kicked in. That was quite an exhibition out there by your team, that said, many of my teams guys are sicker than crap with the flu. But still your team could've wilted and died, instead they decided to go down guns a blazing, you've got to respect that no matter what team you root for.
lux_interior 05-24-2006, 01:46 AM they almost did quit with all the retarded penalties. I don't see how this helps them going forward..the oilers own them.
It's kind of hard to accept a moral victory when you're on the verge of being swept.
If you are looking at this as a "make or break" year then yeah. But it's not. This is (hopefully) just the beginning for this young core. And to see them not give up down 4-0 in the game, down 2-0 in the series, on the road in one of the toughest buildings (supposedly) to play in? That is a moral victory for this young group that I'll take.
I feel bad for Teemu, cuz who knows how many chances he gets. But then again he's a multi-millionaire who made that money playing hockey. I don't feel all that bad for him.
And anyways, you're killing our rally. ;)
Cerebral 05-24-2006, 02:00 AM If you are looking at this as a "make or break" year then yeah. But it's not. This is (hopefully) just the beginning for this young core. And to see them not give up down 4-0 in the game, down 2-0 in the series, on the road in one of the toughest buildings (supposedly) to play in? That is a moral victory for this young group that I'll take.
I feel bad for Teemu, cuz who knows how many chances he gets. But then again he's a multi-millionaire who made that money playing hockey. I don't feel all that bad for him.
And anyways, you're killing our rally. ;)
You guys probably aren't eager for an Edmonton fans' take on this but Mr. Sakich on the Oilers forum made a post that I found to be fairly insightful:
a few days ago, I started a thread that asked " are the ducks as good as the sharks or wings?"
Some thought it was arrogant but, IMO, this years' version of the ducks are not as good as either one of the teams we beat allready. It is all because of their reliance on youth. How many times did we punish and outplay the Stars only to lose to old geezers like Guy Carbeneau or Mike frickin Keene?
Here is a story some of the younger posters here might not know. 1982-3 cup final. Islanders sweep us despite us being the better team in the reg season. Wayne and a few other oilers walking past the islander dressing room after game 4 and they see a bunch of Isalnders truly beat up. Bandages are everywhere, everyone is limping.
Wayne figures out that one team was willing to pay the price while the Oiers were rested and still fresh. Him, Lowe and messier learned that night what it took to win a cup.
Right now, the Ducks are rested and fresh while we are the walking dead. We are also winning 3 games to none. Lowe and mact know this story. You can bet that Peca, Pronger, smyth and smith know it is well.
Guys like Getzlaf, Perry, Beauchemin, Penner and the rest of the young Ducks are going to take a lot away from this playoff experience and it's going to help a ton in the future. It takes a long time for some guys to learn how to win in the playoffs and, for the Oilers, it took guys like Smith and Smyth almost ten years.
It might look ugly right now but the Ducks are going to have a monster team in the future. I still think Anaheim would look a bit better if they had of drafted Johnson over Ryan but you can't argue with the depth at forward you guys will have in the near future.
BowDown2Chistov 05-24-2006, 02:22 AM I agree with you totaly, I thought from the gate that the one thing that would stop us beside giggy being there or not due to injury, was the lack of vets on our team, I mean leading vets, break it down selanne, scott, rob. we dont have the vets that know how to win in this situation beside those three, I dont count frizen cause he really didnt lead in nj.
I hate going back to it because it was a totaly different team but in 03 we had them, kariya,oates,thomas,rob,rooch,ozo,sykora, and carney, all of these guys had either playoff experience or great leadership.
Thats the only area I wish burke could have thought about goin in, I know sykora was becoming lazy and didnt want to play 2 way hockey, Ozo had his substince abuse problems and you cant have a play you depend on having that type of issue off the rink, and fedorov was just to dam expensive you cant have someone making that kind of money anymore, so at the end of the day I dont think it was such a great move dumping carney. I think we needed another leader up front and another on D. and the only other leader we had up front was fedorov and I know how everyone feels about him so Ill move to D, Carney or ozolinsh? I think carney would have been the way to go, now seeing him not hear you miss the little things a player does, I would have taken carney for his defensive ability but Ozolinsh could get it on net and were having a hard time getting due to edmentons ability to block shots so maybe either would have helped a great deal and maybe fedorov could have helped, who knows.
spOiler* 05-24-2006, 02:48 AM Guys like Getzlaf, Perry, Beauchemin, Penner and the rest of the young Ducks are going to take a lot away from this playoff experience and it's going to help a ton in the future. It takes a long time for some guys to learn how to win in the playoffs and, for the Oilers, it took guys like Smith and Smyth almost ten years.
Agreed. Lots of heart shown tonight. We got treated like cat toys for years by vet-laden Dallas teams while our lads learned the ropes. Being able to compete under the new cap had much to do with it (Pronger, Peca) and some pickups at the deadline (Samsonov, Roli). Even then the team looked horrid down the stretch, but thankfully are putting it together at the right time/ And Pronger is finally fulfilling his megastar potential with the maturity he's lacked for years.
It might look ugly right now but the Ducks are going to have a monster team in the future. I still think Anaheim would look a bit better if they had of drafted Johnson over Ryan but you can't argue with the depth at forward you guys will have in the near future.
I agree with most of that but the Johnson over Ryan comment.
Johnson sounds like a real hot-head that is prone to take stupid penalties. I think we can do without that. (we already have Lupul)
Beauch tends to fit the "monster hitting defenceman" mold in a way
If you are looking at this as a "make or break" year then yeah. But it's not.
Heck, our own GM called this a rebuilding year. If you get to the WCF in a rebuilding year, and you're in every game that you lose, that's pretty freaking good.
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