Is the Officiating Biased?

ThisYearsModel
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
Read this from NY, someone who does not care for either team. Last night's game was very poorly officiated. What does a Ranger fan site say about it?......

May 22, 2006
Still Stuck on Sloppy Officiating
There was a series of calls and non-calls in the first period of last night's Anaheim-Edmonton game that made me seriously wonder if the NHL is not intent on getting a Canadian team into the Stanley Cup finals. It started with a call against Edmonton for delay of game when Steve Staios lifted the net off its mooring to stop play -- a good call, which the NHL will someday realize is tantamount to a non-goalie covering the puck in the crease and will punish with a penalty shot. As the power play began, OLN analyst Neil Smith, the ex-Ranger GM, thought Jason Smith got away with high hit -- I didn't think so, but it's worth remembering for later.

The key call came about halfway through the power play with Ryan Smyth stickless and the Ducks teeing up a shot -- Corey Perry was called for goalie interference. The awful OLN coverage didn't have a good replay, and Smith called it wrong by suggesting the penalty was for clearing a broken stick along the half-boards, but a slo-mo look back at the action showed that Dwayne Roloson came out of his crease and bumped into Perry, who was already set, and not vice versa -- a bad call. When the Oilers went on the power play, they scored to take a 1-0 lead.

Off the center-ice face-off after the goal, Chris Kunitz was called for high-sticking near the Oiler blue line (Smith again got the call wrong by suggesting that the infraction took place behind the Oiler goal line) -- yes, he did high-stick the man, but a) the man was checking him away from the puck as he was trying to chase it deep into the Oiler zone, clearly a case of interference, and b) it was not much different than the infraction Jason Smith got away with two minutes earlier (a stick instead of an elbow).

Not to mention the Oilers pushing the net off by tackling Penner and the glove save by Roloson when the puck was either over the goal line or very close to it.....with no video review. Jason Smith got away with stick fouls and headhunting all night long. Unreal.

Shaynsaw
05-22-2006, 11:12 PM
In this series the Ducks have had 13 powerplays. The Oilers have had 8. It really does not matter if the Ducks had 20 powerplays, their % is very very bad anyway.

Roli did have one interference call in the game.

Roli is one of the Oiler leaders in PIM this playoff, they are watching him.

The puck was never in the glove of Roli on that play. If you watch it the puck never left his pad. He dove out with his glove because he thought the player had the puck on the first shot. He didn't. The second stab was at an empty glove. If you don't believe me post a screenshot of the puck...it won't happen.

Oh and your right I bet they love it that all the big market american teams are out of the playoffs. The ratings in New York must be rockin. Canadian first and formost love the game of hockey, we watch the cup final like you watch the superbowl. It does not matter who plays we just love the game.

Stop whinning and try not to cry when you are watching the Oilers fans cheer the Star Spangled Banner louder than you have ever heard it in a hockey rink.

Lyons71
05-22-2006, 11:18 PM
They still were outscored 3-1 both games. It's up to the Ducks to adjust.

Gunner8811
05-22-2006, 11:18 PM
You have got to be kidding me? After 2 games and 2 losses now look to the officiating? Maybe look in the room and wait till youve actually lost the series before you start grasping at straws. the above poster already said what needs to be said.

coolwasabi
05-22-2006, 11:48 PM
The officiating has been pretty good.
Certainly, the refs are letting the players play a bit more (than in the reg. season, 1st & 2nd rounds), but it's been pretty consistent for the most part.

ice berg slim
05-22-2006, 11:49 PM
officiating is far from being the difference maker in this series. The fact is the Oilers seem to score on there chances and the Ducks dont and whats with this BS about the NHL wanting a Canadian team to make it to the finals? :shakehead

Ad Rock
05-23-2006, 12:07 AM
Do people have any idea how hard and complex it would be actually rig the officiating in a game? Do you know how many people would have to be involved and for them ALL to agree to this? Seriously whenever I read a post about biased officiating I just have to roll my eyes.

Have you ever tried to get say 20 people at your work all to go along with something that is against the rules and immoral? All it takes is one person along the chain of command to not like what is going on for the entire group to be caught and embarassed.

Please stop and think about this before you start crying foul again.

Ducksforcup
05-23-2006, 12:09 AM
I agree with Lyons. The games were not that bad officiated, the Ducks just did not convert on their chances and the Oilers did.

Hockeyfan02
05-23-2006, 12:10 AM
It's one guys opinion. Settle down. I don't agree with it. I think the puck is biased because it keeps hitting Roloson instead of the net. It needs to start going both ways and hitting the net too.

Randall Graves*
05-23-2006, 12:11 AM
The officiating has been pretty good.
Certainly, the refs are letting the players play a bit more (than in the reg. season, 1st & 2nd rounds), but it's been pretty consistent for the most part.
'interference' has been completely abolished as the playoffs have gone on.

by the way this thread wasn't started by a ducks fan either.

Ducksforcup
05-23-2006, 12:11 AM
It's one guys opinion. Settle down. I don't agree with it. I think the puck is biased because it keeps hitting Roloson instead of the net. It needs to start going both ways and hitting the net too.

:biglaugh:

Shaynsaw
05-23-2006, 12:30 AM
It's one guys opinion. Settle down. I don't agree with it. I think the puck is biased because it keeps hitting Roloson instead of the net. It needs to start going both ways and hitting the net too.

Thats is the best one liner i have ever heard.

ILuvLA
05-23-2006, 12:55 AM
The Ducks have outplayed the Oilers so far by a huge long shot - but the scoreboard does not reflect as much. Officiating doesn't have squat to do with the current situation.

Insta
05-23-2006, 12:57 AM
Wow I was reading a bit on the MightyDucks.com message board and it is a big whine fest about the officiating and how it is biased, and horrible. My favorite post was:

"I just can't believe these calls first, the holding the sticks in game 1 when the Ducks were called for hooking. Second no call on the play with Penner yesterday.

I know the NHL wants Edmonton in the cup final but they don't need to make it so obvious.

I have lost respect for Roloson ever since the stuff he pulled against San Jose. Next season is going to be ugly if team copies Edmonton style.

BTW Peca, game 1 goal = 2 line pass IMO. "


2 line pass lol! They sure know their hockey on that board!

lux_interior
05-23-2006, 12:58 AM
No.

meck
05-23-2006, 01:00 AM
are you freaking joking me? There were missed calls for both teams :shakehead

mmbt
05-23-2006, 01:14 AM
Wow I was reading a bit on the MightyDucks.com message board ...

Well, that's your mistake. I can't stand that place.

ThisYearsModel
05-23-2006, 01:18 AM
In this series the Ducks have had 13 powerplays. The Oilers have had 8. It really does not matter if the Ducks had 20 powerplays, their % is very very bad anyway.

Roli did have one interference call in the game.

Roli is one of the Oiler leaders in PIM this playoff, they are watching him.

The puck was never in the glove of Roli on that play. If you watch it the puck never left his pad. He dove out with his glove because he thought the player had the puck on the first shot. He didn't. The second stab was at an empty glove. If you don't believe me post a screenshot of the puck...it won't happen.

Oh and your right I bet they love it that all the big market american teams are out of the playoffs. The ratings in New York must be rockin. Canadian first and formost love the game of hockey, we watch the cup final like you watch the superbowl. It does not matter who plays we just love the game.

Stop whinning and try not to cry when you are watching the Oilers fans cheer the Star Spangled Banner louder than you have ever heard it in a hockey rink.

Stop whining? Merely an observation from a RANGER fan site by a Ranger fan. Are you as bold and brave when your team is losing as you are when they are ahead?

The Oilers fans are loud and hard core, I admore that and good for them. As for the anthem, forget it. Madison Square Garden, June 14th, 1994. There will never be a louder crowd than that. Ask Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish.

BTW, thanks for Mark Messier.

missinthejets
05-23-2006, 01:32 AM
but a slo-mo look back at the action showed that Dwayne Roloson came out of his crease and bumped into Perry, who was already set, and not vice versa -- a bad call. When the Oilers went on the power play, they scored to take a 1-0 lead.


well they clearly showed the wrong replay, cause the one CBC showed clearly showed Perry skating through the crease and into Roloson. It was textbook goaltender interference.
Lets face it, the reffing to never perfect, but to imply that it is biased is just silly, ****** maybe, but not biased.

Spankatola Jamnuts
05-23-2006, 01:59 AM
Wow I was reading a bit on the MightyDucks.com message board and it is a big whine fest about the officiating and how it is biased, and horrible. My favorite post was:

"I just can't believe these calls first, the holding the sticks in game 1 when the Ducks were called for hooking. Second no call on the play with Penner yesterday.

I know the NHL wants Edmonton in the cup final but they don't need to make it so obvious.

I have lost respect for Roloson ever since the stuff he pulled against San Jose. Next season is going to be ugly if team copies Edmonton style.

BTW Peca, game 1 goal = 2 line pass IMO. "


2 line pass lol! They sure know their hockey on that board!
Why did you bring that crap here? It's not here for a reason. Same with the original poster.

No one here is blaming the officials. The Ducks have had countless chances and just aren't executing. The Oilers are bending without breaking. Frustrating but totally legit.

deesee
05-23-2006, 12:10 PM
My only complaint about the officiating would be that it's just going back to the way it used to be, which might not really be suited for our team, but it's consistent as far as the way its being called for both teams--

Shaynsaw
05-23-2006, 12:50 PM
Stop whining? Merely an observation from a RANGER fan site by a Ranger fan. Are you as bold and brave when your team is losing as you are when they are ahead?

The Oilers fans are loud and hard core, I admore that and good for them. As for the anthem, forget it. Madison Square Garden, June 14th, 1994. There will never be a louder crowd than that. Ask Kevin Lowe and Craig MacTavish.

BTW, thanks for Mark Messier.

And Lowe, And Mact, and Tikkenen, and Huddy..need I go on. If you can't build your own team, buy another. Good Job. To bad you could only get one cup out of it. Oh and Roli is a UFA next year, mabe put in a bid.

ferbs61
05-23-2006, 01:16 PM
"BTW Peca, game 1 goal = 2 line pass IMO. "


2 line pass lol! They sure know their hockey on that board!


hahahahahah... I can't stop laughing at that comment!!! :biglaugh:

Cerebral
05-23-2006, 02:25 PM
The key call came about halfway through the power play with Ryan Smyth stickless and the Ducks teeing up a shot -- Corey Perry was called for goalie interference. The awful OLN coverage didn't have a good replay, and Smith called it wrong by suggesting the penalty was for clearing a broken stick along the half-boards, but a slo-mo look back at the action showed that Dwayne Roloson came out of his crease and bumped into Perry, who was already set, and not vice versa -- a bad call. When the Oilers went on the power play, they scored to take a 1-0 lead.
I'm sorry but that's a flat out lie. Anyone who has seen the replay knows that Roloson was in the blue crease area when Perry attempted to skate through and bumped him. Did he bump him hard? Heck no, he accidentally skated into him and quickly tried to get out of the way. Has the NHL declared that any contact with the goaltender within the blue crease area will result in a penalty? Yep, and I can find the link that declares this if you want.

Roloson did not come out of the crease in any way and this guy is completely grasping at straws. Seriously look at the replay, it wasn't even a questionable call in any way.

TeMoZ
05-24-2006, 08:01 PM
I'm sorry but that's a flat out lie. Anyone who has seen the replay knows that Roloson was in the blue crease area when Perry attempted to skate through and bumped him. Did he bump him hard? Heck no, he accidentally skated into him and quickly tried to get out of the way. Has the NHL declared that any contact with the goaltender within the blue crease area will result in a penalty? Yep, and I can find the link that declares this if you want.

Roloson did not come out of the crease in any way and this guy is completely grasping at straws. Seriously look at the replay, it wasn't even a questionable call in any way.

wasn't the case last night :dunno:

Frank the Tank
05-24-2006, 08:10 PM
wasn't the case last night :dunno:

Well I think for a penalty to be called the goalie has to be trying to stop the puck, not looking for his jock after Samsonov faked him out of it. :)