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Shack 05-12-2006, 03:56 PM It is now confirmed. Your toughts about it?
I think he will be REALLY big help for our team.
He's at Latvia tomorrow and will play against Norway at Sunday.
yarre 05-12-2006, 03:58 PM :cry:
Just what the hockeydoc ordered.
Thanks OJ.
Joretus 05-12-2006, 04:01 PM Nice of him even call to coach "hey, I'm getting healthly fastly than thought can I join up?". That's right spirit!
hifk88 05-12-2006, 04:01 PM It is now confirmed. Your toughts about it?
I think he will be REALLY big help for our team.
He's at Latvia tomorrow and will play against Norway at Sunday.
:handclap: :handclap: :yo:
KaptainKourage* 05-12-2006, 04:02 PM Wow. Great news for Suomi !
Who gonna be his linemates ?
Shack 05-12-2006, 04:05 PM Wow. Great news for Suomi !
Who gonna be his linemates ?
Nothing's been announced yeat. I think it will be Ville Peltonen for sure and maybe T.Ruutu at the other wing?
Panopticon 05-12-2006, 04:09 PM Nothing's been announced yeat. I think it will be Ville Peltonen for sure and maybe T.Ruutu at the other wing?
I hope they keep the 83-line intact. Just drop Santala and put OJ between Peltonen and Miettinen. Or maybe put Bergenheim there instead of Miettinen. I'm not liking what I've seen from Miettinen so far and Bergenheim has impressed every shift.
Then again. OJ could bring something extra out of Ruutu...
Padawan 05-12-2006, 04:09 PM :amazed: :jump: :D :handclap:
^My feelings right now. IF he is capable of playing without pain, then YES! OJ is what we have lacked and now we got him. He is a team player and no doubt will fit in the team. I don't think heäll do any damage to the team spirit.
edd1e 05-12-2006, 04:09 PM Nothing's been announced yeat. I think it will be Ville Peltonen for sure and maybe T.Ruutu at the other wing?
I dont think T.Ruutu is in the shape, but Kallio or Bergenheim is someone to consider. But i guess Peltonen-O.Jokinen-J.Jokinen is the one what Westerlund has in mind.
Raimo Sillanpää 05-12-2006, 04:10 PM or perhaps Peltonen-Jokinen-Jokinen ?
It'd be a shame to split Jussi-Mikki-Tuomo though..
Now I'm loving this team, we have more NHL'ers than most. We have the best goaltender from the Olympics and a bona-fide #1 centre (nobody else has that, Canada is closest with Crosby who is maturing into the role)
I dont think T.Ruutu is in the shape, but Kallio or Bergenheim is someone to consider. But i guess Peltonen-O.Jokinen-J.Jokinen is the one what Westerlund has in mind.
I hope Erkka keeps the 3rd line intact.
Bergenheim in the first and we'll rock.
Joretus 05-12-2006, 04:15 PM I dont think T.Ruutu is in the shape, but Kallio or Bergenheim is someone to consider. But i guess Peltonen-O.Jokinen-J.Jokinen is the one what Westerlund has in mind.
No Kallio, please! They could drop Kallio out of lineup to make room for OJ actually. Wouldn't mind at all.
Raimo Sillanpää 05-12-2006, 04:17 PM Ruutu's fine now, just needs more ice time than 10 minutes a game for it to really show. Mikko Koivu can no longer be held back at a #3 centre, he's stolen #2 spot for himself.
Viuhkola and Santala (re their jobs today, #1 and #2 down the middle) just got demoted. Olli to #1, Ville with him and someone else, Bergenheim?
Then Mikko's 83 line
Then Viuhkola and Pirnes for lines 3 and 4,.
like:
Peltonen-Jokinen-Bergenheim
Jokinen-Koivu-Ruutu
Miettinen-Viuhkola-Kallio
Hahl-Pirnes-Ruutu
Santala is not suited for the #4 line, a job Pirnes is ideal for. Defenrs like so far, expect scratch Mäntylä, Malmivaara into his place and let him warm the bench until we really need a shakeup. 6 defender rotation was more stable for us.
Panopticon 05-12-2006, 04:18 PM I hope Erkka keeps the 3rd line intact.
Bergenheim in the first and we'll rock.
That's what I'd like to see.
Peltonen - O. Jokinen - Bergenheim
T. Ruutu - M. Koivu - J. Jokinen
Hentunen - Viuhkola - Kallio (Rita)
J. Ruutu - Hahl - Miettinen
Great news! :yo:
Please please please, these lines:
Peltonen-O.Jokinen-Kallio
J.Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
Miettinen-Santala-Hentunen
J.Ruutu-Pirnes/Hahl-Bergenheim
Extras: Viuhkola,Rita
Berg-Nummelin
Lehtonen-Kukkonen
Saravo-Luoma
Malmivaara
Extra: Mäntylä
edd1e 05-12-2006, 04:25 PM That's what I'd like to see.
Peltonen - O. Jokinen - Bergenheim
T. Ruutu - M. Koivu - J. Jokinen
Hentunen - Viuhkola - Kallio (Rita)
J. Ruutu - Hahl - Miettinen
I like that one.
Vikke 05-12-2006, 04:26 PM Bad news for everyone but Finland :cry:
Sampe 05-12-2006, 04:33 PM Olli has never been one of my favorite players, but I gotta respect his loyalty to the national team. And he's obviously a valuable addition to us. Fantastic news! :)
Raimo Sillanpää 05-12-2006, 04:39 PM Olli's our best player right now. Our best 2 way player. There was a reason why OJ came closest to forcing the olympic final into overtime.
So this is why Valtonen got sent home yesterday. I thought it was really strange, even if they woudn'tve used him they could hold on to him to the final and he could possibly get a medal. Seemed odd to stiff him by sending him home. So they knew that Olli was coming, it was probably of just when Olli would land, what flights etc.
RubberDuck 05-12-2006, 04:39 PM It´s gonna be Jokinen-Jokinen-peltonen, trust me...
So this is why Valtonen got sent home yesterday. I thought it was really strange, even if they woudn'tve used him they could hold on to him to the final and he could possibly get a medal. Seemed odd to stiff him by sending him home. So they knew that Olli was coming, it was probably of just when Olli would land, what flights etc.
Same here. I thought Erkka was waiting
for Laaksonen, but that would have been
strange too as we have a few guys like him
on the team already.
This is sounds really good.
Panopticon 05-12-2006, 04:43 PM It´s gonna be Jokinen-Jokinen-peltonen, trust me...
I know and I already hate Westerlund for that. Oh well, if he does that, he should put Bergenheim with Koivu and Ruutu.
edd1e 05-12-2006, 04:48 PM I know and I already hate Westerlund for that. Oh well, if he does that, he should put Bergenheim with Koivu and Ruutu.
Yeah, im quite sure it's gonna be jokinen-jokinen-peltonen, but i hope Bergenheim gets more trust from managment.
Raimo Sillanpää 05-12-2006, 04:52 PM It just hit me!
Kallio is the new Kimmo Rintanen!
A guy who'd always score 7 against Jamaica but then never score against Russia, sweden, canada.. yet would always hold a top 6 spot and be loved by the coach..
jekoh 05-12-2006, 05:08 PM Defenrs like so far, expect scratch Mäntylä, Malmivaara into his place and let him warm the bench until we really need a shakeup.There is no room for Malmivaara on the roster any more :teach:
Le Golie 05-12-2006, 05:09 PM Finland should win this tournament. They have a very good team, all the way through their lineup. Jokinen is just a bonus.
Raimo Sillanpää 05-12-2006, 05:21 PM There is no room for Malmivaara on the roster any more :teach:
There is, did you miss the trade?
Tomek Valtonen to Helsinki for, Olli Jokinen to Riga.
Good trade eh?
illone84 05-12-2006, 05:22 PM Is he going to be an assistant captain?
Nemchinov13 05-12-2006, 06:17 PM At least the Finns are not playing in the same group as Russia. I hope our RSL team will not meet yours in playoffs.
jekoh 05-12-2006, 06:24 PM There is, did you miss the trade?
Tomek Valtonen to Helsinki for, Olli Jokinen to Riga.
Good trade eh?
Valtonen was not on the roster either. There are 24 players already : http://live82.ihwc.net/english/teams/roster.ihwc?team=FIN
hifk88 05-12-2006, 06:27 PM There is, did you miss the trade?
Tomek Valtonen to Helsinki for, Olli Jokinen to Riga.
Good trade eh?
just read this.
http://www.finhockey.fi/taustasivut/artikkeliarkisto/?num=204720
like jekoh said "there are 24 players already". and now OJ is in and we have 25 players and 25 is the limit. So there is no room for Malmivaara.
Slitty 05-12-2006, 06:38 PM :cry:
+1... I want Zubov, Datsyuk, Kovalchuk, Fedorov, Yashin, Markov, Kovalev, Khabibulin, Nabokov, Afinogenov, Morozov, Samsonov, Frolov, Gonchar, Zhitnik, the Kozlovs, Zvinovjev and others on a plane to Riga this INSTANT! :rant:
Hensta 05-12-2006, 07:54 PM Welcome Olli! This is HUGE!!! :bow:
Your Lion Heart is big! So is your head :D
But, you are an excellent hockey player!
Finland -> going for gold!!!
mike4dead 05-12-2006, 08:05 PM Good luck Olli, give 'em hell in the World Cup!
And please come back to Florida healthy, we neeeed you.
Finnpin 05-12-2006, 08:54 PM Pumpkin head is here! Beware!
Shack 05-13-2006, 01:33 AM +1... I want Zubov, Datsyuk, Kovalchuk, Fedorov, Yashin, Markov, Kovalev, Khabibulin, Nabokov, Afinogenov, Morozov, Samsonov, Frolov, Gonchar, Zhitnik, the Kozlovs, Zvinovjev and others on a plane to Riga this INSTANT! :rant:
Why? So they would play not like a team once again :) In my opinion enough is enough, those are great players but fitting them to a team and making them play the "right" system would be quite hard in this time.
Shack 05-13-2006, 01:39 AM My line suggestions:
Peltonen-O.Jokinen-Kallio
J.Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
Miettinen-Pirnes-Rita
Bergenheim-Hahl-J.Ruutu
13. Hentunen
I wouldn't touch at 83 line and 4th line, because of their stellar play against USA. Bergenheim was absolutely brilliant and I think Kallio was also good, he just didn't hit between the post.
If this won't click I would try and switch Kallio/Bergenheim. Only our 3rd line keeps me thinking. Miettinen is playing well, he hits and drives to the net. Rita is still looking and so is Hentunen.
I would send Viuhkola back to Finland, he hasn't been able to make plays and has been quite soft.
Shack 05-13-2006, 01:40 AM Pumpkin head is here! Beware!
Where, where, is it Halloween?
Finland should win this tournament. They have a very good team, all the way through their lineup. Jokinen is just a bonus.
In my books Canada went straight to favourite after Latvija game. Even if the refereering was what it was.
Still great to hear OJ is coming. :yo: I hope he is in good shape after almoust 1 month (?) without a game :dunno:
Boucicaut 05-13-2006, 03:17 AM My line suggestions:
Peltonen-O.Jokinen-Kallio
J.Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
Miettinen-Pirnes-Rita
Bergenheim-Hahl-J.Ruutu
13. Hentunen
I wouldn't touch at 83 line and 4th line, because of their stellar play against USA. Bergenheim was absolutely brilliant and I think Kallio was also good, he just didn't hit between the post.
If this won't click I would try and switch Kallio/Bergenheim. Only our 3rd line keeps me thinking. Miettinen is playing well, he hits and drives to the net. Rita is still looking and so is Hentunen.
I would send Viuhkola back to Finland, he hasn't been able to make plays and has been quite soft.
I agree completely, Viuhkola (slow, soft and not creative enough) hasn't impressed at all and 3rd & 4th lines need to stay as they are.
I wouldn't touch at 83 line and 4th line, because of their stellar play against USA. Bergenheim was absolutely brilliant and I think Kallio was also good, he just didn't hit between the post.
Exactly.
Peltonen-O.Jokinen-Kallio
J.Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
Miettinen-Santala/Pirnes-Hentunen/Rita
J.Ruutu-Hahl-Bergenheim
I would go with these lines. Santala, Pirnes, Hentunen and Rita will fight for the last remaining places in lineup in the next two games.
I like Viuhkola as a player, but he`s been too slow and because of that he can`t control the game like he usually does.
mikkoz 05-13-2006, 09:26 AM Peltonen-O.Jokinen-J.Jokinen/Miettinen
Hentunen-Viuhkola-Kallio
Miettinen/Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
J.Ruutu-Hahl-Bergenheim
Santala
If the 2nd is not workin you can make easily change the lines like:
Peltonen-O.Jokinen-Kallio
Jokinen-Koivu-T.Ruutu
Hentunen-Santala-Miettinen
J.Ruutu-Hahl-Bergenheim
Viuhkola
(bolded ones will be playin in that formation)
I think EW wont be making too big changes, Viuhkola line has been good enough. And they´ve been good on PP.
Why i left Santala on the roster is because he is big, plays well with Miettinen and he has better offensive skills than Pirnes. Pirnes wouldnt be bad choise either but i think Tommi has the egde. On the other hand Rita could be there too because T.Ruutu and J.Jokinen can play as center, but his ice-time has been minimal.
The FIN roster (http://www.yle.fi/cgi-bin/tekstitv/ttv.cgi/html?PAGE=638) against NOR
has been announced:
Goalie Norrena
1st Peltonen - O.Jokinen - Miettinen
2nd Kallio - Pirnes - Hentunen
3rd J.Jokinen - Koivu - T.Ruutu
4th J.Ruutu - Hahl - Bergenheim
Rita or Santala as the 13th warrior
Luoma as the 7th def
Looks ok to me.
Shack 05-13-2006, 11:07 AM The FIN roster (http://www.yle.fi/cgi-bin/tekstitv/ttv.cgi/html?PAGE=638) against NOR
has been announced:
Goalie Norrena
1st Peltonen - O.Jokinen - Miettinen
2nd Kallio - Pirnes - Hentunen
3rd J.Jokinen - Koivu - T.Ruutu
4th J.Ruutu - Hahl - Bergenheim
Rita or Santala as the 13th warrior
Luoma as the 7th def
Looks ok to me.
I think so also. Hopefully our first will click, if not I would switch Kallio/Miettinen.
3rd and 4th are stellar lines.
magical hippo 05-13-2006, 11:24 AM I am not 100% happy about Olli joining the team. He tends to get stupid penalties in important games...
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