WC: May 12 GDT - Finland vs. USA

Official website: http://live82.ihwc.net/english/

Should be a good game that could go either way. I could even see a tie game at around 2-2...

Hakkaa päälle Suomen poika!!!!!
:yo:

Go USA! :yo:

3:2 Finland

Hakkaa paalle kananpoika! :D

Finland needs to win this IMO.

4-3. The yanks always find a way to score bigtime on us.

3:2 Finland

Hakkaa paalle kananpoika! :D

Go have another Aldaris Zelta! :p:

Go have another Aldaris Zelta! :p:

who drinks that donkey piss? :amazed:

who drinks that donkey piss? :amazed:

I did, when I was in Riga a few years back. Why, what's better?

I did, when I was in Riga a few years back. Why, what's better?

i know that for some odd reason visitors of Latvia drink Aldaris Zelta. maybe it's taste is closer to beer what makes in your country, i dunno. if you ever again come to Latvia i recommend to try Bauskas, Tervetes or Uzavas. Aldaris made good beer like 6-7 years ago, but now it's only bunch of chemical indgredients :shakehead

Weren't drunken Finnish tourists a problem in Riga a few days ago? Drinking MORE beer will not cure that. It's sad, though, because Finns are very intelligent people on the whole, but they have a strange fixation on drinking any alcohol they come across. This transforms them into total morons.

Weren't drunken Finnish tourists a problem in Riga a few days ago? Drinking MORE beer will not cure that. It's sad, though, because Finns are very intelligent people on the whole, but they have a strange fixation on drinking any alcohol they come across. This transforms them into total morons.

well they were and are problem, but for some of them drinking was very costly. i heard story that one night 5 Finns get billed for 3500 euros :amazed: but i don't get opinion about Finns from drinking tourists who came here. i have some friends from Finland.

as for game, i say FIN-USA 4:2

"fun without alcohol is artificial fun"

Weren't drunken Finnish tourists a problem in Riga a few days ago? Drinking MORE beer will not cure that. It's sad, though, because Finns are very intelligent people on the whole, but they have a strange fixation on drinking any alcohol they come across. This transforms them into total morons.

I totally agree with you. Finns are lousy drunks.. They are shy and introverted when sober, so the opposite happens when they get alcohol in their veins. I guess I used to be the same way until I moved to Canada and had my brain re-programmed.

I was in Latvia some years ago and went through Vilnius and Tallinn also. The amount of drunken Finns I saw was ridiculous... They think that coming to those countries is a reason to get plowed and act like morons. But if you ever come to Helsinki for example, you'll see that they act like idiots in their own country when they are drunk as well.. Just some years back on a special occasion called "artists night", all the punks in Helsinki decided to get inubriated and smash the crap out of any window in sight... thousands of dollars damage to their own city. :shakehead

i know that for some odd reason visitors of Latvia drink Aldaris Zelta. maybe it's taste is closer to beer what makes in your country, i dunno. if you ever again come to Latvia i recommend to try Bauskas, Tervetes or Uzavas. Aldaris made good beer like 6-7 years ago, but now it's only bunch of chemical indgredients :shakehead

Beer from Canada is great.. It's tasteless, but smooth as a prom queen's thigh...Just not so dangerous;)

A really good beer that I like is from your neigbouring country - Estonia. The beer is called "Saku".

I also like Finnish beer.. Koff, Lapin Kulta, Karjala.. It's all good.

Back to the topic... This should be a very difficult game for us considering the game against Czech Rep. Albeit the 4rd period of that game was good, the game itself was a nightmare. Team Finland has to play A LOT better if they want to win this one. The yanks will not forgive a single mistake. Niittymäki should also improve his game but the defence is what I'm worried about.

I'm hoping this will be a great game and a victorious as well for Team Finland but considering our last game, I'd bet against Team Finland. I'll bet 10 euros for 2-5 final result for Team USA.

well they were and are problem, but for some of them drinking was very costly. i heard story that one night 5 Finns get billed for 3500 euros :amazed: but i don't get opinion about Finns from drinking tourists who came here. i have some friends from Finland.

as for game, i say FIN-USA 4:2

The group of Finns refused to pay that 3500eur bill and the owner of the place begin to threat them with knife. One of them used his card and paid and police was also called to the place. They thought that the bill is too high and it is a police matter now. This is what I heard.

There is thousands of Finnish fans in Latvia and ofcourse some of them act stupid when they get "too many". I heard some punk beat bouncer of some club.

But if you ever come to Helsinki for example, you'll see that they act like idiots in their own country when they are drunk as well.. Just some years back on a special occasion called "artists night", all the punks in Helsinki decided to get inubriated and smash the crap out of any window in sight... thousands of dollars damage to their own city. :shakehead

This happend like 10 years ago and maybe maximum of 5-10 windows smashed. Come on man! Your generalizing makes me go :biglaugh:

The Lions will roar tonight! :yo:

4-2

Finland has done new lines. Doesnt work well. 2-2.
Santala and Kukkonen scores...

Go Fin Go! :yo:

I'm concerned that USA will perpetrate ownage on Finland's defense corps, who have looked a bit vulnerable to me in the Czech and Slovenia games. In the offensive end, Tuomo Ruutu's 0+0=0 points, 27 penalty minutes, -1 plus-minus, and one shot on goal isn't pretty. Mikko Koivu's 0+0=0 points, 3 penalty minutes, +1 plus-minus, and a massive three shots on goal is only marginally better. Physical play, schmysical play, these guys need to start producing more than just bruises.

Westerlund speaks of taking less penalties, but barring that, Finland should work on how to survive them. They're 8th in penalty kill with 79 % while USA is 3rd with 90 %. In power play the roles are reversed: Finland is 3rd with 35 % and USA is 10th with 16 %.

On the positive side, Petteri Nummelin, Mikko Lehtonen, and the sublimely skilled Aki Berg have been contributing offensively; Jussi Jokinen is creating chances; Antero Niittymäki has been solid if not spectacular; and the previous period the team played was their best of the tournament.

This happend like 10 years ago and maybe maximum of 5-10 windows smashed. Come on man! Your generalizing makes me go :biglaugh:

The Lions will roar tonight! :yo:

4-2


Yeah, it did happen a while ago you are right.. Just trying to make a point that Finns act stupid on their own turf too, and not just when they go to Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania. Maybe knowing this will make them feel a little better.
You are from Helsinki? Do they still all gather up in Esplanadi on vappu?

You are from Helsinki? Do they still all gather up in Esplanadi on vappu?

Yep, they still do. Though I haven't been there myself for years anymore. As a teenager it was cool but not anymore. I prefer my beers in some bar with good company.

I guess those finnish fans are living their vappu again in Latvia. :D

3 - 1 Finland.

Ville Peltonen 2
Dustin Brown
Tomi Kallio

Is there any way I can watch this game on the net? If so what time does it start in the eastern time zone in North America.

Thanks in advance

Defense and goaltending look good so far for the U.S. in this tourney. Scoring does not........... This is going to be a low scoring affair, but I think someone will step up for the U.S. and score the deciding goal. I'll go 3-1 U.S.

Oh man, I'm going to be optimistic. Therefore 4-2 for Finland.

is there a live video feed anyone on the web for this game? or any of the other games?

Yeah, it did happen a while ago you are right.. Just trying to make a point that Finns act stupid on their own turf too, and not just when they go to Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania. Maybe knowing this will make them feel a little better.
You are from Helsinki? Do they still all gather up in Esplanadi on vappu?


Hey, wait a minute... I thought only us Americans were allowed to act like jerks in other people's countries.

BTW my son wore his #8 Selänne jersey to school today. GO SUOMI!!!

Go have another Aldaris Zelta! :p:
Sorry for going off-topic, but I know only few words in Finnish, they are: sattama, perkkele, poika, kananpoika :)

Go shove those Americans! :jump:

What time does the game start tonight? 8pm?

Hey, wait a minute... I thought only us Americans were allowed to act like jerks in other people's countries.

No, English are world champions in it!

Finland's lineups tonight:
I line
Miettinen - Santala - Peltonen
Berg - Nummelin

II line
Hentunen - Viuhkola - Kallio
Lehtonen - Kukkonen

III line
Jokinen - Koivu - T. Ruutu
Saravo - Mäntylä

IV line
J. Ruutu - Hahl - Bergenheim
Luoma

13. forward: Rita

goalies: Niittymäki (Norrena)

By taking 2p today FIN secures
a spot in the QF.

USA has been pretty solid
defensively and ours has been
a bit shaky, so it won't be
easy. But since we've been
more productive forward,
my prediction is 4-2.

A friendly tie is not out of
the question, but I think
we're saving our only loss to
Monday.

Finland's lineups tonight:
I line
Miettinen - Santala - Peltonen
Berg - Nummelin

II line
Hentunen - Viuhkola - Kallio
Lehtonen - Kukkonen

III line
Jokinen - Koivu - T. Ruutu
Saravo - Mäntylä

IV line
J. Ruutu - Hahl - Bergenheim
Luoma

13. forward: Rita

goalies: Niittymäki (Norrena)

I thought one of the Ruutu brothers were suspended...

Well, I don't really care about the outcome of this game as long as we get to see a hockey game for a change i.e. some decent officiating and not constant powerplays.

Does anyone know who's the ref for this game?

I thought one of the Ruutu brothers were suspended...

They aint. Im quite interested to see that -83 line (J.Jokinen-M.Koivu-T.Ruutu) running, being a -83 myself too. :)

Does anyone know who's the ref for this game?
Remember the Czech game.. its the same ref.

Well, I don't really care about the outcome of this game as long as we get to see a hockey game for a change i.e. some decent officiating and not constant powerplays.

Does anyone know who's the ref for this game?

I think it's almost mandatory that it's a Canadian when USA plays and wise versa.

I hope Kessel has a good game, I think that Finland will win the game tho.

Remember the Czech game.. its the same ref.


The Slovak? I remember thinking that he sucked. Damn.

The Slovak? I remember thinking that he sucked. Damn.
No my bad, i think it was said earlier that it would be that Slovak. But its Milan Minar(Czech)

game on! is there any audio or television feed for this game?

Stastny with a penalty shot. Pwned by Niittymäki :yo:

Nice glove save.

FIN penalty for hooking... USA PP

game on! is there any audio or television feed for this game?

USAhockey.com

USAhockey.com

:yo: awesome thnx!

1-0 M.Koivu :yo:

FIN - Mikko Koivu (1-0 FIN)

Crappy game, neither have any idea in their play. Finland has no d-men at all, it seems. Mäntylä should be sent home already.

At least Niittymäki show'd up for the game.

Lion of the period: M.Koivu
Sheep of the period: Mäntylä

The US had a couple really good scoring chances during the first half but after that Finland dominated quite clearly.

Is the ice bad or are the guys that nervous?...I mean at times it looked like they were handling hand grenades.

The US had a couple really good scoring chances during the first half but after that Finland dominated quite clearly.

Is the ice bad or are the guys that nervous?...I mean at times it looked like they were handling hand grenades.

maybe it's bad from all those coins being thrown yesterday:sarcasm:. FIN seemed to be much more disciplined than USA was in the first. I'm looking forward to a good second.

Jokinen collects his 6th assist. He occasionally looks a bit sluggish out there, but the guy can pass.

Often it seemed like the Finnish defenders thought they were all Nummelins out there.

I think the game will get better next period.

Plenty of Karhu Beer, hockey game from tv, and then going to see a gig from a band in my avatar! This is going to be good evening and night! :)

Go Suomi!

God, our PP is terrible!

I think the game will get better next period.

Plenty of Karhu Beer, hockey game from tv, and then going to see a gig from a band in my avatar! This is going to be good evening and night! :)

Go Suomi!

speaking of finnish bands, I'm supposed to see H.I.M next weekend. :yo:

That was nice one from Bergenheim!

Sean hits Sean scores! 2-0 Assisted by J.Ruutu

Nice goal by Bergenheim.

FIN - Sean Bergenheim (2-0 FIN)

And they just played Klamydia - Nina Autio, whos the dj.

And they just played Klamydia - Nina Autio, whos the dj.

Really!? I have to put some volume up :D

And they just played Klamydia - Nina Autio, whos the dj.

I was listening the same thing.

They've been playing other Finnish songs as well I think. Maybe that's why Finland is doing so well...

Ruutu just can't hold his mouth

If they start playing Matti Nykanen or Katri Helena I'm gonna not only stop watching the games altogether, I'm gonna make myself permanently deaf.

Nummelin has a pretty nice wrist shot...

speaking of finnish bands, I'm supposed to see H.I.M next weekend. :yo:

Rock on! Been listening to them for 8 years...great they have success now!

3-0 Nummelin!

Tuomo Ruutu is doing great job in front of the net.

If they start playing Matti Nykanen or Katri Helena I'm gonna not only stop watching the games altogether, I'm gonna make myself permanently deaf.

Hey man! Never compare Klamydia to Matti or Helena! ;)

FIN - Petteri Nummelin (3-0 FIN)

Why was that a penalty? Berg was too far away to hook and just barely touched Stastny.

Kinda weak call on Kukkonen, but...

Kukkonen takes one too, 5-3 USA

Now they're playing friggin Jore Marjaranta!

another solid period for FIN. USA hasn't capitalized on their PP's yet and baring a huge third period, look to be out of this game.

Now they're playing friggin Jore Marjaranta!
Wasn't it kind of appropriate after the US 5-3 PP :)

("Haaveet kaatuu" roughly translates to "dreams collapse".)

Why was that a penalty? Berg was too far away to hook and just barely touched Stastny.
Well, Berg deserved a 2 min penalty for slowness.

Wasn't it kind of appropriate after the US 5-3 PP :)

("Haaveet kaatuu" roughly translates to "dreams collapse".)

That was actually very funny. Now I'm waiting for Martti Servo's "Mikä on kun ei taidot riitä"...

Mike Keenan just said there on the interview that Olli Jokinen is joining the team!

Olli jokinen to join the team?

Mike Keenan just said there on the interview that Olli Jokinen is joining the team!

I was like :eek:

Hopefully this is true! :yo:

who doesn't have their tournament card stamped yet, Malmivaara and..? aah, Tomek who went home.. OJ get's his place..

Mäntylä goes home, Malmivaara into the lineup (If I were coach that is)

Shut up, Kessel.

I was like :eek:

Hopefully this is true! :yo:

Yeah,he would complete the team :bow:

Scooter - Move Your ***

Maybe this tells USA to move little bit quicker :D

Nice leg lock from Jarkko R.

Scooter - Move Your ***

Maybe this tells USA to move little bit quicker :D

It could be for Aki too.

Bergenheim is bulldog!

180cm 97kg!

But still the speed!

It could be for Aki too.

:biglaugh: Yeah! this beer is getting me!

Why did Bergenheim got a penalty? Being too active?

Why did Bergenheim got a penalty? Being too active?

Who knows...

Kukkonen 4-0. Pretty shot after a quick counter-attack.

4-0 Kukkonen

Chicago calling!

Lasse Kukkonen :yo:

Finns have nice wristers... That was pretty...

FIN - Lasse Kukkonen (4-0 FIN)

this is a copy of the olympic semi-final. after the lions took a hold of this game, they never let the USA into the game.

I'm impressed.

Now take out Santala or Viuhkola and put in OJ..

Bergenheim has moves.

Well, I hope Westerlund doesn't break up the 83-line. It was great today.

Also, Sean Bergenheim was much better in the 4th line than as the 13th forward...

Finland wins it 4-0. Good game for guys like Bergenheim, Koivu and Hahl. USA had a tough run at it today.

I like it I like it! :clap:

Great game over all! and the Zebra was at the background.

Now I'm off to the Helsinki city and listen some great rock music! :yo:

I like it I like it! :clap:

Great game over all! and the Zebra was at the background.

Now I'm off to the Helsinki city and listen some great rock music! :yo:

enjoi

Great game over all! and the Zebra was at the background.


That had to be best refereeing I've seen in this tourny! :clap:

That had to be best refereeing I've seen in this tourny! :clap:

I'd rank it right after the refereeing in the Russia - Ukraine game. That was the best I've seen.

Someone please tell me
why Mertsi was talking
about Olli Jokinen in the
end of the match.

Someone please tell me
why Mertsi was talking
about Olli Jokinen in the
end of the match.
Mike Keenan said he will be joining the team.

Mike Keenan said he will be joining the team.

It is now confirmed. Olli will join our team tomorrow.

Mike Keenan said he will be joining the team.

Panthers GM Keenan?

Erkka just confirmed it, OJ will join the3 team. Excellent!

Erkka just confirmed it, OJ will join the3 team. Excellent!

Wow EXCELLENT :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
Just what we needed to the 1st line

Peltonen - OJ - Miettinen or maybe JJ

Sounds good to me.

Maybe Olli's arrival will wake up Peltonen.

When was the last time OJ played hockey? Hes been of ice for a while now hasnt he?
Anyway, nice with some more class players at the worlds.

Well, I must say that I was positively surprised about the play by Team Finland. The problems seems to be only a bad memory. Team defence worked well with all the players contributing, scoring touch seems to ok now and most of all, Niittymäki kept the goal clean of any renegade pucks. All in all, a great game with a nice score to boot.

When was the last time OJ played hockey?

Well, Santala hasn't played that much either, so I'll take OJ in his place without much thinking...

Bergenheim is bulldog!

180cm 97kg!

But still the speed!

He's not that heavy. More like 88kg.

He's not that heavy. More like 88kg.

Yeah, Tuomo Ruutu is probably closer to being a bulldog...

Well played game guys. :clap:

The sheeps and lions of team Finland today:

3 lions:

-Niittymäki (3+ lions actually), what a game, I'm almost speechless. Fantastic glove hand, good stick-handling, good rebound control, good positioning. He also stoned Stastny on a penalty shot, who would have thunk that. Simply put: aperfect game today, he wasn't even this good in the olympics. :bow: :clap: :bow:
-Bergenheim, posesses the energy of a small village, our best player in the tournament so far. :bow:
-Koivu, awesome all-around effort today, the dynamo of the 83-line

2 lions:

-Lehtonen, our best d-man so far.
-J.Ruutu, what a pest he was today, gotta love his antics. Nice dirty work also.

1 lion:

-T.Ruutu, good work ethic, but I still have higher expectations of him.
-Jokinen
-Kukkonen
-Milan Minar, nice job letting the boys play hockey today, a few odd calls (Santala 2 min for slashing the stick, Bergenheim 2 min for opponent dropping his helmet) and missed penalties on Finland, but overall he was ok. :clap:

1 sheep:

-Kallio, you have to score against other teams than Uzbekistan and Trinidad & Tobago.
-Viuhkola, where was he today
-Peltonen, O.Jokinen is our leader now.

2 sheeps:

-Berg, has the movements of a diesel train.

3 sheeps:

-Mäntylä, brutal. :shakehead

nod, agree on basically all accounts.. thats the best thing about getting OJ, Peltonen's captaincy becomes formalised as the "invisible" captaincy it was as OJ takes the lead in the dressing room and the ice.

How did Esa Pirnes do?

How did Esa Pirnes do?

Didnt play.

To Matti_A i think Kallio showed nice moves and good hustle with the puck, he's been playing better than in any other tourny i've seen.

-Bergenheim, posesses the energy of a small village, our best player in the tournament so far. :bow:


I love Bergenheim. Absolutely a great player to watch.

To Matti_A i think Kallio showed nice moves and good hustle with the puck, he's been playing better than in any other tourny i've seen.

I agree. Kallio has been very good so far and i hope that he continues to play like this and would score many important goals for Finland. :)

BErg was not bad at all today. He was a physical force around the net.

Bergenheim was the surprise, he challenged the U.S defensemen and made some sick moves...very good game.