WC: May 09 GDT - Czech Republic vs. Finland

Official website: http://live82.ihwc.net/english/

Sorry my Czech friends.. This one will be a Finland victory. I speculate around 4-1 Finland.

You guys just lack the firepower and strength in goal.

:)

Jarkko Ruutu says in the finnish media that he's not scared about Czech team's revenge.

"Inside the game there happens what happens, I'm ready for everything"

"There is nobody. That's why it's so funny because czechs keep on fuzzing about it (The Jagr incident)" Ruutu commented about Czech teams "tough players".

Czech headcoach Alois Hadamczik said: "Finland has more skillful players (than Ruutu) that we have to pay attention to.

Bring it on! :yo:

Czech team will have some bruises today especially from line: J.Ruutu - M.Koivu - T.Ruutu :yo:

Few words from Finnish headcoach Westerlund:

"You can't make too hard hits here, although they were clean ones. We've been told, that if the opponent isn't ready to take the hit, they will call a penalty."

--> that's major BS, This is hockey!!! :madfire:

Ruutu this, Ruutu that. Who cares? There's a game on the ice, ever noticed? :D

Anyways, this is the first real game for both teams. They've played three times against each others quite recently, and now for the first time, it's for real.

Finland made no changes to lines, wich should be seen as better teamplay together. The ones' who cry after Santala, might now be shut down, as the centers on the lineup, get the credit and trust from the coaches. Niittymäki is on fire, I hope.

Czech Republic has played, interesting way, lately. Their play hasn't been as accurate defensively as it has been while Hlinka and others were on the driver's seat. Interested to see, how the team will perform now, against a rather good opponent. Needless to remind, the "old guard" from CZE-team is missing, will there be leadership enough in the roster?

On the other hand, sometime soon, Finland got to lose that one game, so it could as well be this. We have to lose that one game, so this won't be again a new Turin... :teach:

[QUOTE=Zambonidriver²] Ruutu this, Ruutu that. Who cares? There's a game on the ice, ever noticed? :D [QUOTE]

:D Oh really! and Ruutus are part of the game, ever noticed? ;)

J. Ruutu is idiot ...

You will have more HITS but we are playing for GOALS!!!

CZE - FIN 3:2

Erat on the scoreboard for sure !

Maybe I could add J. Ruutu photo to my Avatar I am missing him there...

Can somebody give link to video with Ruutu hit against Latvia ?

Can somebody give link to video with Ruutu hit against Latvia ?

http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=99194

Can somebody give link to video with Ruutu hit against Latvia ?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=249995

This should be a close game. I know I said that before the Latvia game too and to be honest, Team Latvia disappointed me. This on the other hand shouldn't. Team Czech republic have more skillful team so they will be harder to shut down. They however, doesn't have rely on their goalie as much as our previous opponents. I think Team Finland will have the edge in team play and we have also the better goalie. Team Czech rep has more skillful player which can result in a very creative play which Team Finland need to be on top. It should be a close game with a close win for Team Finland.

4:2 Finland

Few words from Finnish headcoach Westerlund:

"You can't make too hard hits here, although they were clean ones. We've been told, that if the opponent isn't ready to take the hit, they will call a penalty."


That is a very scary way to "develop" hockey. IIHF should pull their heads out of their a** and get on with the program. Hockey is hockey, ballet is ballet. And we should REALLY keep them separate.

I would rather penalize the player who is NOT ready to take a hit when he is on the ice...he is much more of a hazard to himself than the opponent. If you are not ready to get hit, choose another sport.

That is a very scary way to "develop" hockey. IIHF should pull their heads out of their a** and get on with the program. Hockey is hockey, ballet is ballet. And we should REALLY keep them separate.

I would rather penalize the player who is NOT ready to take a hit when he is on the ice...he is much more of a hazard to himself than the opponent. If you are not ready to get hit, choose another sport.

Amen! :clap:

Imo the Czech team this year is the weakest they've had in years.

Niitty >> Both of the Czech goalies

And let's just hope that the Hanson...I mean Ruutu brothers stay on the ice for more than 15 minutes this time :P

2-2 tie

The aim in this game is not to score goals but to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women.

Jarkko The Barbarian will be hunting the czechs tonight! :yo:

Niitty >> Both of the Czech goalies



So true! What's the deal with his torn labrum?

Czechs look unsured, so 2-4 Finland :)

Niitty is ok. Team Fin doctor said that there is no problem. So he will play in this tournament. End of story.

First "real" game tonight. Keep those skates flying guys. 4-1 Fin!

Go Fin Go!!!

5-1 to Finland.

The Czechs don't have the character and skill necessary to score while Aki is on the ice.

The Czech D will have a tough time trying to contain Aki on the offensive end.

Prediction:

Finland 6 - Czech Rep. 2

Aki: 1 G 2 A 3 PTS +3

A lot depends on how well Finland manages to avoid the sinbin especially when playing against a team which supposedly knows how to add some dying swan into the mix. Hard and clean checks should be integral in taking the czech off balance. If it goes to coast to coast Finland will lose.

"There is nobody. That's why it's so funny because czechs keep on fuzzing about it (The Jagr incident)" Ruutu commented about Czech teams "tough players".
:handclap: :sarcasm:


"You can't make too hard hits here, although they were clean ones. We've been told, that if the opponent isn't ready to take the hit, they will call a penalty."

This is really bad news for international hockey :shakehead

I say Finland lose 5-2. We just can't handle those few good players and I feel our team isn't mentally ready for a tough game. Czechs on the other hand need to prove themselves so they are in good spirits. I hope I am wrong.

7-1 to Finland.

3-0 Finland

Miettinen. :shakehead Totally unnecessary check.

Why we always have to take these stupid penalties.

Yeah, Finland lose 11-0.

:shakehead Wow, this started good. Already two goals behind. :amazed:

What a great start...

What the hell was Nummelin doing on that goal?

Aki Berg, my hero...

Numppa didnt take his man either, he was on a highknee postition - its ok in the army - and not so good on the ice.

"Holy Diver" Prorok took a penalty. Team Finland, now is the time to score.

Go Kärpät. I mean Finland.

2-1 Cockonen

:amazed: Whatta... Kukkonen scored! He can score? This was a surprise to me.

Nice comeback from our team.

Damn, Berg sucks.

Damn, Berg sucks.

Aki is surely not having his best night today...

What the ****...

What the ****** are they doing? :madfire:

Lehtonen sure seems to be expert of taking stupid penalties. Another 5-3 PK thanks to Lehtonen.

that ref sucks balls!

I'm quite disappointed with the
fact that our lions have difficulties
in adjusting to the refereeing.

Few games are won from the box.

that ref sucks balls!

They should already know the refereeing.

Damn, Berg sucks.
Yeah, as well as, Mäntylä, Saravo, Nummelin, Luoma and Lehtonen

Yeah, as well as, Mäntylä, Saravo, Nummelin, Luoma and Lehtonen

You're right! How clueless can a defence be?

That looked like a dive by the Finn, but I'm kinda glad...



What's important is that Finland is only down by one goal...

Hnilicka is looking VERY shaky.

That was an awful period. One can expect only improvment for the second period.

That looked like a dive by the Finn, but I'm kinda glad...

He just fell...again stupid call by the ref.

This is BS more than hockey!

That looked like a dive by the Finn
Well there was couple of easy calls - and ref had to give from it.

He just fell...again stupid call by the ref.

This is BS more than hockey!

I hate this too, it's killing the whole game, it's turning the game into ringette. But, these are the rules now and our team should try to adjust to them.

What's important is that Finland is only down by one goal...

I agree. Good tactics from Erkka to
use the timeout immediately. Funny
game though, both teams have used
their timeouts already?

Strong play from the lions during
Mantyla-Ruutu-Lehtonen penalties,
not allowing a goal when CZE had
5-3 for quite a while.

It's not over. On the contrary.

This zero-tolerance is gonna kill hockey :madfire: .

Miettinen and Berg, brutal brutal first period.

Also Niitty has to control those rebounds better :shakehead

5 on 5 Finland is the better team so far.

again stupid call by the ref.

This is BS more than hockey!
Yup. Continous PP is BS. Im really pissed off about this.
I want some action in there, now its just :shakehead

In future why just give straight 30 minutes of PP on each team, really interesting! :madfire:

How the **** was that a penalty? Niittymäki touched the puck and the Czech fell?

i see many optimistic Finns very sad after this match :sarcasm:

i see many optimistic Finns very sad after this match :sarcasm:

There is no such thing as optimistic finn... ;)

Finnish defenders are playing really dumb, Niittymäki took that penalty when the finnish defenders did not bother to go help him. Offense and neutral zone are well under control. Looks like the players start panicking in the own end.

Edit: Okay, what on earth was J. Ruutu doing there?

Send Aki back to Canada. I'm not a big fan of TPS, but I feel sorry for them when I think about Aki playing there next season...

Oh that was funny, maybe Jarkko just didnt see that guy ;)

WHAT??????


Pirnes did absolutely nothing!

Ruutuuuuu.... elevation is key

WHAT??????


Pirnes did absolutely nothing!

That is zero tolerance...

Dreadfull yawn

This game is absolute crap! Just PP after PP...

Cant be a goal

Czech players can't skate? Or stand even?

This is not hockey! omg! I hate zero tolerance. And czechs also!

Go Jarkko Go! ;)


The zero tolerance makes this sport very liable for divers and fakers.

Czech players can't skate? Or stand even?

J. Ruutu can play that game too... :shakehead

J. Ruutu can play that game too...

Maybe he is a 20% czech? :D

Oh my god, this is not Hockey! That is BS.
How many seconds has there been 5 on 5 play ?
:shakehead

Oh my god, this is not Hockey! That is BS.
How many seconds has there been 5 on 5 play ?
:shakehead

Not many! Because we are 2-1 down.

Oh my god, this is not Hockey! That is BS.
How many seconds has there been 5 on 5 play ?
:shakehead

If this is the future of ice hockey, you won't see me in the crowd anymore. This is NOT ice hockey...

OFFFSIDE!?!?!?!? :dunno:

Seems like a great game ..

Somebody call the Zoo to get those drunk and blind zeebras out of the rink! There should be a hockey-match going on...

This must be just a bad dream? It has to be?!? It's not hockey, it's a bad dream. Somebody please tell me this is just a bad dream...

Who was that defender.... Awful mistake...

EDIT: Nummelin... what are you thinking today?

Well done, Petu... :shakehead

That was an awful period. One can expect only improvment for the second period.Yeah right

3-1 Czechs. Our defence sucks big time tonight!

They should have a rematch of this game with hockey rules

Somebody call the Zoo to get those drunk and blind zeebras out of the rink! There should be a hockey-match going on...

I think they're doing what they've been told to. They all can't be this bad. Or can they?

Wooohooo ex Ranger scores :yo:
Now finish'em boys! :teach:

Nummelin is too many times in international level a rollercoaster. He was so down there.

I think they're doing what they've been told to. They all can't be this bad. Or can they?

Linesmen were also told to ruin this game?? I thought they only told that to the ref

They should have a rematch of this game with hockey rules
Well, partly this is true. Czech earned those goals, and Finns should wake-up and score some goals.

If this is the future of ice hockey, you won't see me in the crowd anymore. This is NOT ice hockey...

New Era, dude. very soon the same will happen to NHL, i hope not. I hope IIHF will ban these new rules. They suck. I need some real hockey!

Is there something wrong, there are ten players on ice?

Berg - Nummelin, Finland's worst defensive pair tonight...

New Era, dude. very soon the same will happen to NHL, i hope not. I hope IIHF will ban these new rules. They suck. I need some real hockey!

It has happend in NHL already but the difference is that you can hit there and the refs are quality.

Is there something wrong, there are ten players on ice?

Maybe the ref lost his whistle?

edit. Nevermind 5on4

Thank god Berg is off the Leafs.

Berg - Nummelin, Finland's worst defensive pair tonight...

Easily the worst...

Come on Finland... Anywhere I could listen to the game in finnish or english?

Maybe I should just go to sleep. This game sucks, mostly thanks to the ref plus Aki Berg and Petteri Nummelin.

And maybe I'll even get to work before nine for once...

The officiating in this tournament is just awful, it kills the excitement of hockey. :shakehead

I see that we have alot of first time d-mens there. Only Lehtonen has bees solid first timer. We have big problems at the D. We have to take penalty after penalty coz Chezch are too fast.

Berg and Nummelin have also been lost in this one. Can't blame the ref, he's using the line they have there, but playing shorthanded almost whole period doesn't get team Finland anywhere.

So when does the world cup of soccer start?

I can't watch this crap any more.

The officiating in this tournament is just awful, it kills the excitement of hockey. :shakehead

I agree, but players must get used to this line. This line is good, but they should ease it a little bit.

If you are a wise player (chezch) you'll go down even when the wind blows a little bit. If there's opponent near you that's a sure penalty.

Come on Finland... Anywhere I could listen to the game in finnish or english?

http://lotta.yle.fi/ijulkaisu.nsf/sivut/jaakiekkomm

So when does the world cup of soccer start?

I can't watch this crap any more.


Now you know how we (the hosts Latvia) felt when you crushed us. ;)

You could try Giro D'Italia (cycling tour). very exciting btw

Why can't they get officials from NHL.
European refs haven't "trained" this zero tolerance line.

So when does the world cup of soccer start?

I can't watch this crap any more.

Dear Matti, It will start 9.6 :D

Comoon lets win this period!

3-2! COMOON GUYS!

Aki Berg!!!!!!!!!!!!! Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee scoooooores.
Aki Berg 2+0 already in tournament..... where are you now leafs fans ;)

I agree, but players must get used to this line. This line is good, but they should ease it a little bit.

If you are a wise player (chezch) you'll go down even when the wind blows a little bit. If there's opponent near you that's a sure penalty.

ok if i understand you correctly, all Finns players are dumb? :shakehead

Berg! :eek:

Aki I forgive you a little bit, just a little bit!

Akiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Beeeeeeeeeeeeerg

If you are a wise player (chezch) you'll go down even when the wind blows a little bit. If there's opponent near you that's a sure penalty.

I am not watching this game, but I agree that officiating at this WC encourages diving. But the same can be said about the NHL playoff going on. If players don't embelish, even legit call is often a non-call.

To posters other than Shack: I don't get all the whining about penalties in this thread. If Finns have crappy special teams it's their problem. Number of penalties is about even both ways so far.

Edit: And Finns get a second PP goal. So what was everyone's point? :shakehead

To posters other than Shack: I don't get all the whining about penalties in this thread. If Finns have crappy special teams it's their problem. Number of penalties is about even both ways so far.

Yeap, I'm not whining about penalties. I'm just saying that this isn't the right place to start this new line.

Some European tournaments would have been better place, but well...

Phantoms are called, but obvious ones not? :dunno:

lol, what happened to zero tolerance?

I am not watching this game


Edit: And Finns get a second PP goal. So what was everyone's point? :shakehead
The point was that this is not hockey.

The ref is not calling anything now.

And you are not watching this game!

lol, what happened to zero tolerance?


I dont know. This is interesting, but very hard to players

I dont know. This is interesting, but very hard to players

OK, now I get it. This "zero-tolerance" means that first two periods you call everything and 3rd period you call nothing.

Edit: BTW, this is the game I like, it's just damn hard to the players when refereeing changes completely within the game.

Zebra's must have been reading this thread during intermissions. :D

OK, now I get it. This "zero-tolerance" means that first two periods you call everything and 3rd period you call nothing.

The ref just dropped his toupee on his eyes.

Unbeliavable change suddenly...easily 2 sure penalties for Czechs there but no!

Edit: BTW, this is the game I like...

Me too. It's more fun to watch now.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEAAA

3-3


Nummelin scooooooooooooooooores


What a nice shot by "petu".

YEAHHHHHH BABY!!!! Nummelin!

Suits me fine :) 3-3

Greatness...

I wonder if they could still squeeze a winner in... use the momentum...

third period has been great.

I see that some of you guys are really, really slow ;)

Go ref Go!

OH MY GOD! someone fire that referee!! :shakehead

WOOOOOHOOOOOO! Nummelin is the man of the moment! Great work to come back and play hockey for a change.

Oh, a penalty for Team Finland. Time to fight for the puck again. Good thing from this is that now Team Finland can dump the puck without fear of icing.

He found his whistle again. I'm happy for him...

Nice, but they should get somekind of sense in these rules.

i see many optimistic Finns very sad after this match :sarcasm: Yes, im very sad, this game sucked.

5 on 5 hockey, we were better team. Thats a positive thing.
Defence must be sooooo much better against Can and Usa.
I'm pretty scared about the seventh game...

Nice redemption by Nummelin & Berg. :)

Yes, im very sad, this game sucked.
Don't sugar coat it. "Sucked" is a very lame word for this nightmare.

Aki ended the Aki-bashing by scoring a goal once again. :bow:

Aki ended the Aki-bashing by scoring a goal once again. :bow:

Aki is above the god. He has those golden wrists :)

How much can that Slovakian referee whistle for former "fatherlanders"? Unbelieveably crappy officials today, the calls were ridicolous and diving was quite common, and I really fail to see how that Jokinen breakaway was offside.

Oh well, Finland vs Czech Republic & the ref, even score. I'd say finns won. :D

Yes, im very sad, this game sucked.

Finland should've won this game. I can't believe the mistakes the D made and I really really really can't understand who the **** decided that this referee is fit to work in this tournament. Or anywher outside Romanoviastan or whereever the **** he's from.

Defence must be sooooo much better against Can

Won't happen. Canada will beat Finland by at least 5 goals.

How much can that Slovakian referee whistle for former "fatherlanders"? Unbelieveably crappy officials today, the calls were ridicolous and diving was quite common, and I really fail to see how that Jokinen breakaway was offside.

Oh well, Finland vs Czech Republic & the ref, even score. I'd say finns won. :D

well, i can assure u that Slovakian referee will NEVER help Czechs ;)

Defence must be sooooo much better against Can and Usa.
.
Won't happen. Canada will beat Finland by at least 5 goals.
This is not about defense. We need more hot players(forwards) to score - more ice time to Tuomo Ruutu!

That was a weird game. The ref sucked totally, first two periods he sent everyone out for touching, and Czechs really abused it by diving constantly...and the guy fell for it. I laughed so hard when Jarkko Ruutu dove and gave the Czechs a doze of their own medicine.

They REALLY need to start giving penalties for diving, and obstruction. In the 3rd period there were so many obstructions and no penalties for Czechs (the worse one was against Tuomo Ruutu when he was trying to get back to defense).

3-3 is ok, but I just wish there were more 5 on 5 hockey, because Finland was the better team on even strength. And we need to learn to dive more if this ridiculous refereeing is going to stay.

I don't mind zero tolerance if its zero tolerance and theres a few mistakes, it happens. A truckload of the penalties in the first two periods were penalties, and he rightly called many of them. That's fine, the players *must* learn that you can't take dumb penalties.
But what I can't stand is referees who are inconsistent as soon as 40 minutes and 1 second hit the clock.

For 19 minutes and 20 seconds he calls nothing whatsoever. On some shifts there were several penalties to be called and nothing.
Then whoa, it's 3-3 wait, I had a whistle somewhere didn't I?

The referee was a waste of space in the third period, both sides can blame him for a poor game, but also for his presence on the ice at all times as being a disruptive influence on their game. Either he blew everything or he blew nothing.

But hey, at least he wasn't as bad as Alex Dell. Albeit he was close, real close.

But hey, at least he wasn't as bad as Alex Dell. Albeit he was close, real close.

Alex Dell used to be so one sided, that made him so horrible. This guy was evenly poor, but the Czechs were better at exploiting his weakness. The last period looked like real hockey, but because the first two periods were not, he should not have lost his whistle like that. Just makes everyone even more confused.

Turned out too much like I feared, but luckily we got a draw!

Please stop talking about referees. It's just lame. Doesn't matter if the referee sucked or not, blaming the referee is simply lame.

I think the coach should give a lot more ice time to T.Ruutu. 1. Peltonen - M.Koivu - T.Ruutu :jump: :handclap: :propeller

How did Tomas Kaberle look? I know he was player of the game for the Czechs, but was he on the ice for any goals scored against?

How did Tomas Kaberle look? I know he was player of the game for the Czechs, but was he on the ice for any goals scored against?

Kaberle from the looks of it played like half the game (because of all the special teams). He played well, at some shifts he looked tired but that was because he'd play long shifts during special teams and if he didnt manage to get off the ice quick it showed.

Turned out too much like I feared, but luckily we got a draw!

Please stop talking about referees. It's just lame. Doesn't matter if the referee sucked or not, blaming the referee is simply lame.

Finland did not necessarily lose the point because of the ref, but there is nothing wrong with calling it bad refereeing because that is exactly what it was. He made the first two periods look like womens hockey, and in the 3rd he went in the totally opposite way, and that is really bad...players have no idea what kind of contact they can take when the rules change in the middle of the game. That guy should NOT get any more starts in these games, he is just not fit for it.

more ice time to Tuomo Ruutu!

??? Have you been watching this tournament at all?
Ruutu isn't really at his best shape and we need some offence here, this ain't training camp for injured players. He seems really slow and hi's hands are frozen.

How did Tomas Kaberle look? I know he was player of the game for the Czechs, but was he on the ice for any goals scored against?

Like Raimo already said, Kaberle was good. The best Czech player out there and played most of the game. Balastik and Erat were good too.

??? Have you been watching this tournament at all?
Ruutu isn't really at his best shape and we need some offence here, this ain't training camp for injured players. He seems really slow and hi's hands are frozen.

Koivu's line was the only one that worked in yesterdays game from start to finish. Other lines were struggling but Ruutu brothers and Koivu always took the puck in the Czechs end and created chances. First line was completely lost, but that is more because of all the penalties.

??? Have you been watching this tournament at all?
Ruutu isn't really at his best shape and we need some offence here, this ain't training camp for injured players. He seems really slow and hi's hands are frozen.

Ruutu was out of touch, now he looked in touch imho.
Mikko Koivu was on fire, but instead of first line time Erkka put Hahl as the first line centre, then Viuhkola.. ööh.. What does Mikko have to do?

Hahl is incapable of creating offence, although he had a few ideas, every time those ideas didn't pan out and the pass back was taken by a Czech player. He's just, hmm, he doesn't have the offensive ability to play a role on our first line. If it needs grit, take Tuomo, he can atleast contribute to the offence.
Besides, you can't get out of a funk from the bench.

Raimo and psycho_dad, I agree with you about M.Koivu and J.Ruutu but in my opinion Tuomu Ruutu has to improve alot. He has talent we all know that but seems like that he isn't in his best shape which I understand because of hi's long injury streak.

Jarkko was brilliant with his forecheck and hits, he also draw one penalty to checzh. Mikko Koivu improvet alot. He was IMO one of the best in this game.

Tuomu Ruutu has to improve alot.
Well first check his time on ice. Against latvia it was 2 min? Yesterday it was about 10 min? because of the penalty galore. He had no PK time and just a little PP time on 3rd period. Not like Jokinen or Miettinen.

Well first check his time on ice. Against latvia it was 2 min? Yesterday it was about 10 min? because of the penalty galore. He had no PK time and just a little PP time on 3rd period. Not like Jokinen or Miettinen.

Miettinen was lost for long stretches of the game, I can think of worse ideas than giving his time to Tuomo to see just how slumping he is or is the slump over..

edit: the cream on the cake was seeing Hahl on the powerplay.. ***?

Well they obviously wanted to put Jokinen on the wing but did not want to break all the lines, so they just switched Miettinen and Hahl and Hahl took center duties where he is comfortable in. I don't expect it to stay that way at all.

edit: the cream on the cake was seeing Hahl on the powerplay.. ***?
To win face-offs? actually 5-5 and on powerkill Hahl has been good but theres more skillfull guys for PP.

It was a stupid move to take Miettinen off from the 1st line. I think he and Jokinen played well together.

And Hahl on the first line.. :shakehead

Well first check his time on ice. Against latvia it was 2 min? Yesterday it was about 10 min? because of the penalty galore. He had no PK time and just a little PP time on 3rd period. Not like Jokinen or Miettinen.

You could do more than check few times in 10mins.