Tuomo Ruutu hit vs. Latvia

Pepper
05-07-2006, 04:04 PM
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=99194

5+game, thanks to ridiculous IIHF rules.

Ruutu brothers simply pwned Latvians during that shift.

Finnpin
05-07-2006, 04:09 PM
SWEET! :yo:

Ruutu Brothers Rocks!

5+game is a joke and that was given by a canadian ref...

Next time that latvian will remember to keep his head up.

Like Wall
05-07-2006, 04:19 PM
You are blind. Redlihs didn't see him. he managed only to turn his head. He deserved every min of that penalty. I hope he got a good lesson. That was Ruutu's intention to hit him.

Matti_A
05-07-2006, 04:21 PM
I just felt bad for the poor Latvian guy who got caught under the train.

Finnpin
05-07-2006, 04:22 PM
You are blind. Redlihs didn't see him. he managed only to turn his head. He deserved every min of that penalty. I hope he got a good lesson. That was Ruutu's intention to hit him.

Is it T.Ruutu's problem that Redlihs is blind? He ducked at the wrong time and got Redlips. Sorry, that's hockey, you have to be awake all the time and especially when there is a player on the ice with surname Ruutu on his back.

Sakaarnis
05-07-2006, 04:25 PM
I think the 5+game was not so much becouse of the hit itself, but rather injury latvian player got. There was scar and obviously blood after it, so its not that shocking to see such a harsh penalty.

Teemu
05-07-2006, 04:27 PM
Oh, I can't WAIT until next year :D

Beee-a-utiful

In the Doghouse
05-07-2006, 04:29 PM
That was Ruutu's intention to hit him.

Of course it was Ruutu's intention to hit him! But it obviously wasn't Ruutu's intention to hurt him. Too bad Redhlihs ducked and that's why he got hit to his head. That's hockey, all the players should know that if you don't keep your head up, you might get ran over. If you have decided to give a hit, you cannot back it down anymore if your opponent decides to duck, the situation comes just too fast to react anymore.

FiNsKa
05-07-2006, 04:35 PM
Are you kidding me, 5+ games???

I guess that means Tuomo is basically done for this tournament.

Anybody got a clip of this hit? Was it as bad as Jarkko's hit on Jagr?

Caz
05-07-2006, 04:37 PM
I think the 5+game was not so much becouse of the hit itself, but rather injury latvian player got.

This is exactly what we are protesting about.
Unless you're prepared, don't step in the box.

Caz
05-07-2006, 04:38 PM
Anybody got a clip of this hit?


Scroll to the first msg of the thread. :biglaugh: :yo: :D

In the Doghouse
05-07-2006, 04:38 PM
Are you kidding me, 5+ games???

I guess that means Tuomo is basically done for this tournament.

Anybody got a clip of this hit? Was it as bad as Jarkko's hit on Jagr?

Just look at the first post.

EDIT: Caz, you were faster... And yes, I think it was clean hit as was Jarkko's hit on Jagr.

BlackLabel
05-07-2006, 04:39 PM
Anybody got a clip of this hit?
there's a link in the first post in this thread.

Teemu
05-07-2006, 04:39 PM
Are you kidding me, 5+ games???

I guess that means Tuomo is basically done for this tournament.

Anybody got a clip of this hit? Was it as bad as Jarkko's hit on Jagr?

He means 5 minutes plus a game misconduct

psycho_dad
05-07-2006, 04:44 PM
I think the 5+game was not so much becouse of the hit itself, but rather injury latvian player got. There was scar and obviously blood after it, so its not that shocking to see such a harsh penalty.

Yeah they punished Ruutu for the result, not the action itself. Hit was clean, but the guy just ducked and was so low that he got hit in the head. Ruutu noticed this and managed to avoid hitting him at full force, but it still looked bad. Great hit though, and very bad ref decision. I'm glad that the guy did not get injured, he lost his balance and was watching the puck, maybe that will teach him to keep his head up.

FiNsKa
05-07-2006, 04:45 PM
He means 5 minutes plus a game misconduct

Jeez, I just realized that myself. Thanks, I'm okay now.
Tuomo's a machine... But should he be playing this way when he just got off a serious injury? Methinks he should take it a bit easier and focus on scoring some goals and setting up plays instead of smashing players through the boards.

TK79
05-07-2006, 04:45 PM
You are blind. Redlihs didn't see him. he managed only to turn his head. He deserved every min of that penalty. I hope he got a good lesson. That was Ruutu's intention to hit him.

First rule of hockey is to keep your head up. Ruutu had his hands down, this guy turtled and paid the price. 5+20 was a joke.

Caz
05-07-2006, 04:46 PM
... and was watching the puck, maybe that will teach him to keep his head up.

Skating one way and watching another.
A classic moment for a bomber.
Like asking for it.

franchise player
05-07-2006, 04:55 PM
Didn't Ruutu hitted the guy with his stick? Watch again carefully.

psycho_dad
05-07-2006, 04:57 PM
Didn't Ruutu hitted the guy with his stick? Watch again carefully.

Ruutu kept his stick and hands to his hip level, so if the stick hit the guy, that guy should really blame himself for it, not Ruutu. What was he supposed to do? Drop his stick when the guy was so low?

Sakaarnis
05-07-2006, 05:00 PM
One thing though, just before the hit Ruutu jumped and thats illegal, especialy on an open ice.

colonel_korn
05-07-2006, 05:01 PM
When I saw people complaining about "Ruutu's cheap hit" in the GDT I just assumed it was Jarkko. :biglaugh:

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 05:06 PM
Is almost everyone here blind? He brought his stick up into the players face, which is why he was left bloodied on the ice. Great call by the ref.

And he didnt get a 5+ game suspension, he got 5 minutes and a game misconduct.

SergeiK
05-07-2006, 05:08 PM
Is almost everyone here blind? Fortunately we have you to tell us what really happened.

therealdeal
05-07-2006, 05:10 PM
No way, clean hit, he came up do to the momentum of the hit, he technically hit with the elbow, but the elbow was pinned up against the body, and the guy was playing the puck.

Jysk
05-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Is almost everyone here blind? He brought his stick up into the players face, which is why he was left bloodied on the ice. Great call by the ref.

And he didnt get a 5+ game suspension, he got 5 minutes and a game misconduct.

I agree

Teemu
05-07-2006, 05:23 PM
Jeez, I just realized that myself. Thanks, I'm okay now.
Tuomo's a machine... But should he be playing this way when he just got off a serious injury? Methinks he should take it a bit easier and focus on scoring some goals and setting up plays instead of smashing players through the boards.
Honestly, I don't think he knows how to play any other way :D

In one of the first games he came back from this year after his first injury, he demolished Marcus Nilson of the Flames... we never thought he'd be looking to pound someone so soon off of an injury, but he he seems to enjoy it

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 05:32 PM
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/9886/18db.jpg

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/6295/27ov.jpg

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/1796/33rs.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3180/40wg.jpg

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jaydub
05-07-2006, 05:34 PM
You are blind. Redlihs didn't see him. he managed only to turn his head. He deserved every min of that penalty. I hope he got a good lesson. That was Ruutu's intention to hit him.

Its good to see you have no idea what the rules of hockey are.

Padawan
05-07-2006, 05:38 PM
It wasn't a clean hit. It was charging and 2+2 at the most imo. 5+20 is too much imho. Tuomo came fast to hit the latvian player who ducked and that's why Tuomo hit him slightly to the head. Tuomo kept his hand to his body and didn't lift them. He did jump and thus a charging call and another minor for the slight injury. That would have been my call if I would be the ref. I think my opinion would be the same if, let's throw this one from the back of my head, Astashenko hit Peltonen.

Gardebut30
05-07-2006, 05:40 PM
Is almost everyone here blind? He brought his stick up into the players face.

Slow motion is a great tool. Use it. On the last replay of the hit in this clip, Ruutu's right glove hand is just below the player's chin. And he hit him more with the front of his body than the side or the elbow. If the stick caught the Latvian player in the face, I'd say it was Ruutu's momentum coupled with the other guy's body position that made the hit look very dirty. It's a risky hit by Ruutu, but also a bad position for the Latvian player to put himself into.

Caz
05-07-2006, 05:41 PM
Its good to see you have no idea what the rules of hockey are.

Would you be kind enough to explain
the rules of hockey. Please use the pics
above to help me understand.

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 05:47 PM
Slow motion is a great tool. Use it. On the last replay of the hit in this clip, Ruutu's right glove hand is just below the player's chin. And he hit him more with the front of his body than the side or the elbow. If the stick caught the Latvian player in the face, I'd say it was Ruutu's momentum coupled with the other guy's body position that made the hit look very dirty. It's a risky hit by Ruutu, but also a bad position for the Latvian player to put himself into.


A glove doesnt cut a player open.


You want to see a clean big hit

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=49092&a=559115

Arms kept low, doesn't bring the stick up, and doesn't jump 2 feet in the air.

Caz
05-07-2006, 05:56 PM
A glove doesnt cut a player open.You want to see a clean big hit http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=49092&a=559115Arms kept low, doesn't bring the stick up, and doesn't jump 2 feet in the air.

Maybe you should look at the pics too.
And just for a second, forget the name
on the jersey.

There are some slomo pics on this page
posted by yourself. Please explain me at
what stage the feet are in the air.

Have a Lofbergs Lila and chill :)

Talentless Practise
05-07-2006, 05:57 PM
A glove doesnt cut a player open.


Neither does a hit if you take it properly. But i guess they don't teach it in Latvia. Or Sweden.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:00 PM
A glove doesnt cut a player open.


You want to see a clean big hit

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=49092&a=559115

Arms kept low, doesn't bring the stick up, and doesn't jump 2 feet in the air.

Jesus christ, have you ever played hockey?? Those gloves can EASILY cut open your face.

Just like you whined about the hit against Jagr, you're doing the same thing here. You lost back then and you really have no case here either.

Forearm/glove to the face thanks to the Latvian player who had just went low.

You have the slow-mo and pictures here, use them yourself.

MrAlfie
05-07-2006, 06:01 PM
the whole Ruutu family is a disgrace

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:04 PM
Maybe you should look at the pics too.
And just for a second, forget the name
on the jersey.

There are some slomo pics on this page
posted by yourself. Please explain me at
what stage the feet are in the air.

Have a Lofbergs Lila and chill :)

Here ya go

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5646/060507ruutubrothers00300011cy.jpg

Hes well on his way up in the air before landing the hit.

Talentless Practise
05-07-2006, 06:04 PM
the whole Ruutu family is a disgrace

:biglaugh:

Swedes play a pansy style of hockey so this whining comes as no surprise.

Gardebut30
05-07-2006, 06:05 PM
A glove doesnt cut a player open.


You want to see a clean big hit

http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=49092&a=559115

Arms kept low, doesn't bring the stick up, and doesn't jump 2 feet in the air.

Helmets cut people. Even during big clean hits, which I'm not suggesting this is. I'm saying he didn't bring his stick up into the guy's face, which is what you originally said.

MrAlfie
05-07-2006, 06:05 PM
:biglaugh:

Swedes play a pansy style of hockey so this whining comes as no surprise.

swedes?

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:06 PM
Jesus christ, have you ever played hockey?? Those gloves can EASILY cut open your face.

Just like you whined about the hit against Jagr, you're doing the same thing here. You lost back then and you really have no case here either.

Forearm/glove to the face thanks to the Latvian player who had just went low.

You have the slow-mo and pictures here, use them yourself.


A glove doen't easily cut your face open :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

And thanks for proving the hit was illegal...since when can you get you hands up into your opponents face when hitting him? Good job contradicting yourself. :rolleyes:

Talk about never playing hockey, basic rules bud, learn them.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:06 PM
Here ya go

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5646/060507ruutubrothers00300011cy.jpg

Hes well on his way up in the air before landing the hit.

Again, total BS! His skates went airborne AFTER the contact, before it he had atleast one skate on the ice.

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:08 PM
Again, total BS! His skates went airborne AFTER the contact, before it he had atleast one skate on the ice.

Um, he didnt even hit him yet in that picture. Just give it up.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:10 PM
A glove doen't easily cut your face open :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Like I told you earlier, go play some hockey with NHL equipment. Come back when you have done so. You have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about.

And thanks for proving the hit was illegil...since when can you get you hands up into your opponents face when hitting him? Good job contradicting yourself. :rolleyes:

Jesus christ you're so lost here it's not even funny. LOOK WHERE RUUTU'S HANDS ARE! I'll tell you, they are just above the waist-line.

Hey it's ok not to like Ruutus but come on, don't humiliate yourself like that.

Caz
05-07-2006, 06:10 PM
Um, he didnt even hit him yet in that picture. Just give it up, your making a fool outta yourself.

Have a look at the second pic in your
own series. There still a skate on the
ice, right? That was after your last pic.

Hmm? What does that tell you?

You can also look at the same pic and
see where the hands and elbows are.

Now, what parts of the two bodies touch?
Elementary, dear Watson.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:11 PM
Um, he didnt even hit him yet in that picture. Just give it up.

No, you give up your futile attempt to make Ruutu look like a criminal. You have zero case here.

ps. that pic is nanoseconds before the contact. You figure out the rest.

MrAlfie
05-07-2006, 06:12 PM
by the way...

wouldnt it be totally stupid to check like this unless you werent out to check with your stick?

i mean just check his position, ruutu had all the time to set himself in a position he wont get hurt when checking the player, if redlih´s head was a little higher he wouldve destroyed tuomo ruutus chin with his helmet because hed have been in a very vulnerable position, and im sure he was aware of that.
he went headhunting.. just like his fellow lowlife brother jarkko ******* ruutu.

checks are awesome, having no respect for the game of hockey is a disgrace.

campbell,richards > ruutu jerks

Ola
05-07-2006, 06:13 PM
Is almost everyone here blind? He brought his stick up into the players face, which is why he was left bloodied on the ice. Great call by the ref.

And he didnt get a 5+ game suspension, he got 5 minutes and a game misconduct.

Yeah, what to expect from finns. A cross check to the face and 10 of 'em sing up to praise him. I think fans of 30 teams in the NHL and 15 nations in the WCH would call that hit what it was. A small d-i-c-k hit by a chicken player against a B-nation in hockey. :shakehead

Naa, he is soo tough, he leveled a latvian. Wooow. Hyvää soumi! Hyvää Ruutu brothers! :clap:

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:13 PM
Like I told you earlier, go play some hockey with NHL equipment. Come back when you have done so. You have absolutely ZERO idea what you're talking about.



Jesus christ you're so lost here it's not even funny. LOOK WHERE RUUTU'S HANDS ARE! I'll tell you, they are just above the waist-line.

Hey it's ok not to like Ruutus but come on, don't humiliate yourself like that.


Yea AND LOOK WHERE RUUTU IS, 5 FEET IN THE AIR! Give it up bud, your clueless!

Talentless Practise
05-07-2006, 06:15 PM
And thanks for proving the hit was illegal...since when can you get you hands up into your opponents face when hitting him? Good job contradicting yourself. :rolleyes:


And looking at those pictures, you are saying he brought his hands UP to the head? Have you lost your glasses mate?

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Yeah, what to expect from finns. A cross check to the face and 10 of 'em sing up to praise him. I think fans of 30 teams in the NHL and 15 nations in the WCH would call that hit what it was. A small d-i-c-k hit by a chicken player against a B-nation in hockey. :shakehead

No, he is so tough, he leveled a latvian. :clap:

Well it didn't long for the swedes to appear here, how predictable. A clean hit by NHL-standards and we have the friends of no-contact hockey here whining like women.

Just like the hit against Jagr in olympics where all the swedes and rangers fans were whining 24/7 until even they had to shut up when 90% of the hockey world ruled the hit clean, including RAngers expert commentator JD.

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:16 PM
And looking at those pictures, you are saying he brought his hands UP to the head? Have you lost your glasses mate?


Where were Ruutus hand to start, now where did they end up?

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:17 PM
Yea AND LOOK WHERE RUUTU IS, 5 FEET IN THE AIR! Give it up bud, your clueless!

:biglaugh:

I rest my case here.

Hint: it doesn't matter how high his feet are AFTER the hit, it's the position of his feet during the CONTACT that counts.

But I feel it's pretty useless to try explaining even the basics to you.

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:18 PM
:biglaugh:

I rest my case here.

Hint: it doesn't matter how high his feet are AFTER the hit, it's the position of his feet during the CONTACT that counts.

But I feel it's pretty useless to try explain even the basics to you.

Your so clueless to what your talking about that im not even going to bother trying to explain rules to you.

Caz
05-07-2006, 06:18 PM
A glove doen't easily cut your face open :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
And thanks for proving the hit was illegal...since when can you get you hands up into your opponents face when hitting him? Good job contradicting yourself. :rolleyes:Talk about never playing hockey, basic rules bud, learn them.

Says the man who brought the pics himself.
I suppose if a guys name is Ruutu, he has to
learn to skate with his hands as low as his knees. :shakehead

Now, suppose I'm ignorant about hockey
and you explain me the rules of a hit.
I'm eager to learn.

EDIT:typo

Gardebut30
05-07-2006, 06:18 PM
by the way...

wouldnt it be totally stupid to check like this unless you werent out to check with your stick?

i mean just check his position, ruutu had all the time to set himself in a position he wont get hurt when checking the player.

I don't think there's a question that Ruutu went into the corner looking to make a big hit, but at the same time, I don't think he anticipated redlih to cut up ice like he did. At that point, it was probably 'try to make a solid hit' or 'jump out of the way' (which is a good way to get yourself injured). Body positioning in this case probably wasn't preconceived.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Your so clueless to what your talking about that im not even going to bother trying to explain rules to you.

It would help if you knew the rules before you even attempt to explain rules to anyone. It's painfully obvious that you just don't know what you're talking about.

FLYLine24
05-07-2006, 06:19 PM
It would help if you knew the rules before you even attempt to explain rules to anyone. It's painfully obvious that you just don't know what you're talking about.


Ya, keep telling urself that bud if it helps you sleep.

Talentless Practise
05-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Yea AND LOOK WHERE RUUTU IS, 5 FEET IN THE AIR! Give it up bud, your clueless!


:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

How clueless can a person be.

5 feet = ~1.5 metres

Although they will tell you this stuff in elementary school so all hope is not lost.

Gardebut30
05-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Yea AND LOOK WHERE RUUTU IS, 5 FEET IN THE AIR! Give it up bud, your clueless!

It's Ruutu's momentum that makes him look like a running back diving for the endzone when the hit occurs.

Caz
05-07-2006, 06:22 PM
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
How clueless can a person be.


Quite.

Lost, like on the island? :shakehead

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Ya, keep telling urself that bud if it helps you sleep.

How badly you really want to humiliate yourself here?? You went from hitting with stick to flying elbow to high hit to jumping before the hit, all proved wrong by your own 'evidence'.

Seriously dude, you lost this one just like you lost the case against Ruutu in Torino.

BigTimer*
05-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Yea AND LOOK WHERE RUUTU IS, 5 FEET IN THE AIR! Give it up bud, your clueless!
What a surprise... the Rangers fans are the only ones with their panties up in a bunch... hmmmmmmmmmm.

I think before you use the word "clueless" again you should:

A) Look at the 56 second mark of the clip. Ruutu's skate is clearly on the ice.

B) Go to your local used sportings good store and buy a relatively new pair of gloves or just one if the guy wants to cut you a deal. Put it on and punch yourself in the face.

psycho_dad
05-07-2006, 06:26 PM
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/9886/18db.jpg

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/6295/27ov.jpg

http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/1796/33rs.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3180/40wg.jpg

Click to enlarge


Great still photo evidence. That should conclude it is a clean hit. Arms down, no jumping before the impact. Thanks for the links, should bring an end to all this "dirty" crap.

TK79
05-07-2006, 06:28 PM
Yeah, what to expect from finns. A cross check to the face and 10 of 'em sing up to praise him. I think fans of 30 teams in the NHL and 15 nations in the WCH would call that hit what it was. A small d-i-c-k hit by a chicken player against a B-nation in hockey. :shakehead

Naa, he is soo tough, he leveled a latvian. Wooow. Hyvää soumi! Hyvää Ruutu brothers! :clap:

Ruutu was already lining up for the hit before the Latvian guy turned and turtled. The fact that it hit the guys head was mostly bad luck. If you call that a cross-check to the face you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

psycho_dad
05-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Ya, keep telling urself that bud if it helps you sleep.

No they are right. You are obviously totally clueless about the rules. PLEASE learn them before you post again. It is SAD to see a person first provide conclusive photo evidence and then making himself a ridiculous clown. Your photos say "clean hit" and you say "dirty hit". Which one is wrong? The photos, or your idea of the rules?

Free clue....It's not the photos.

Pepper
05-07-2006, 06:34 PM
I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that a fan of one of the least physical teams in the league is whining about physical hockey.

gobolt7
05-07-2006, 06:38 PM
I think the expiration date on this one has passed.

*Click*