WC: May 05 GDT - Finland vs. Slovenia

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It should be relatively easy game for Team Finland. Last time the Lions faced Team Slovenia the result was 12-0 for Team Finland. I'd expect about the same result or somewhere near that. It's not a question of which team will win but rather how big is the winning margin.

It's friday, sun is shining, fridge full of beer and hockey from tv! The weekend has landed :yo:

8-1

8-1

I have to say I'd rather see less
goals in the second column.
One way traffic anyway.

Let's go Kopitar! :yo:

6:0 Finnland :yo:

Suomi powers to 8:1

It's friday, sun is shining, fridge full of beer and hockey from tv! The weekend has landed :yo:

8-1

Im glad we agree on atleast one thing :D :dunce:

It'll be something like, 5-1 or soish. The new lines are, interesting, and the third line seems as the only WHC-ready package so far. 1st is rather, appalling, due Jokinen in middle. Oughta be some player who actually does play in the center regularly, not just every 100th game. Second line is catastrophe waiting to happen, Bergenheim straight into lineup? On what basis!? And Kallio on Viuhkola's wing? Last time they played together, Kallio sure had the passes to deliver... and failed, even from empty net!

Oh well, I know I'm not gonna watch this "preliminary/exhibition" (as this really is, isn't Slovenia's playerbase around 200 registered or soish?) sober. Are you?` ;)

It'll be something like, 5-1 or soish...

I guess there might be some changes in the first
two, yes. Two centers on the bench, that is a little
strange considering Jokinen as a winger plays center
in the first line.

But I guess Erkka wants to test things too.
So lets not burn the underpants yet but wait
patiently.

I see Slovenia doesn't have their former #1 goalie Stan Reddick on their roster. I remember him playing one hell of a game in the 2003 wc's vs. the Czech's IIRC.

Also gotta watch out for Anze Kopitar.

LETS GO KOPITAR!! :yo:

Oh well, I know I'm not gonna watch this "preliminary/exhibition" (as this really is, isn't Slovenia's playerbase around 200 registered or soish?) sober. Are you?` ;)

I have to, I still see nightmares from Vappu. :shakehead

I`m not happy with the lines so I expect only 5-6 goals from Finland.

My lines would be:

Peltonen-Viuhkola-Kallio/Bergenheim
Jokinen-Koivu-Ruutu
Miettinen-Santala-Hentunen
J.Ruutu-Hahl-Rita/Bergenheim

Fin-Slo 9-0

Berg 1+5 :yo:

Kristan looking like Brodeur so far!

Referee in action !!!!! Go Russia

A minute and a half of 5 on 3 PP for Finland without scoring :shakehead

yessssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

FFS Finland!! 0-1

ha ha ha!!! No doubt that finland will win though.

ha ha ha!!! No doubt that finland will win though.
Slovenia has been better so far.

I agree. But I still think that Finland will win the game. I really don't think that Slovenia will be able to keep up with the finns for 60 min.
But I have to say that I'm chocked about how badly finland plays in pp and pk. It's not like them. They're usually more dominant.

That Ref Is A Joke!

Man we are really playing like crap. Sloppy passing all over.

Edit: 2-0 Slovenia. Nice Defense Nummelin! :banghead: :madfire:

That Ref Is A Joke!

A bad joke...

Slovenia PP >>>>>>> Finland PP

Great... what the **** are those ****ing idiots doing.

0-2

Slovenia deserved it.

0-2 Slo! hahahahaha! Comoon boys, lets play. Stop that surfing there!

HAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

What's up with Finland! What appeared to be an easy game, turns out to be not so easy after all. ;)

0-2 Slo! hahahahaha! Comoon boys, lets play. Stop that surfing there!
My thoughts exactly. The finnish players seems to be expecting an easy win and plays like that too. Now is the time to start playing and respect the opposition like they should have from the start.

5-3 PP for Finland right now.

Edit: Thanks for listening, Team Finland. Nice goal.

Ok so i'm of the refs too now. Atleast it's fair, but it kinda ruins the game.

If we don't score on this 5 on 3 we'll have our very own Belarus.

Ok we scored 1-2

Thats a start! good shot Tomppa

As usual Kallio scores against Slovenia. 2-1.

As usual Kallio scores against Slovenia. 2-1.

Well, in this situation, he'd better :)

Man we are really playing like crap. Sloppy passing all over.

Edit: 2-0 Slovenia. Nice Defense Nummelin! :banghead: :madfire:
:eek:

It looks like Finland has finally woken up.

Is there someway to watch this game on livestreams?

The russian referee is not very happy with SLO leading !

Well, first day of the WCH and hockey history has been made already. This is the first period that Team Slovenia has ever won against Team Finland. Time to change gears now Team Finland. From 1st to 2nd gear.

Well, first day of the WCH and hockey history has been made already.

At least us fans are not in danger of getting cocky :D

Well, first day of the WCH and hockey history has been made already. This is the first period that Team Slovenia has ever won against Team Finland. Time to change gears now Team Finland. From 1st to 2nd gear.
More like from R to 1st gear.

What an embarrasing 1st period from team Finland. An example of total underestimation of the opposition.

A lot of credit to the Slovenian team also, what a dominating powerplay you have!!

:banghead: 1st period :blush:

the Lion is sleeping big time...awful hockey!

5-3 or 5-2.

Oh they REALLY should forget Eiffel 65 and *Blue* from the playlist. That was rubbish when it was new and now its old too.

Fun game to watch, fun in a comedy sense.

Oh they REALLY should forget Eiffel 65 and *Blue* from the playlist. That was rubbish when it was new and now its old too.

Amen! ;)

Wohoo! 2-2

Dallas Stars...sorry Finland scores! :D

2-2

Ok, the diesel engine is showing some signs of life.

2-2

Ok, the diesel engine is showing some signs of life.
But can we score on even strength or do we have to rely on our mediocre PP.

LOL Slo 2-3

What a bounce

Kopitar Rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is unbelivable how bad the Finns play without their NHL Stars. If they continue playing like that, they will loose this game.

And the russian referee is whistling ridiculous penalties.

What the hell is going on? Westerlund looks pissed, he should do something and stop this madness. Change goalies or take a timeout, this is so weird. All credit to Slovenia though, they are a lot better than I thought.

Well, maybe this is the one preliminary game that we´ll have to lose in a IIHF tournament :dunce:

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in today's show we comedians:

-The Lions
-Fredrik Norrena
-Blind and drunk Zeebra

OMG! That ref sucks big time! And our PK sucks too! 2-4?

Ok, fack this **** whit the constant penaties!! :madfire:

OMG! That ref sucks big time! And our PK sucks too! 2-4?
how was that tripping??? :help:

I dont like this NHL brand pus*yhockey. Come on let the guys play a bit.

It is unbelivable how bad the Finns play without their NHL Stars. If they continue playing like that, they will loose this game.


Ofcourse we need Koivu and Selänne to beat Slovenia. :innocent:

Oh that ref really sucks. Two awful calls, first for Finland and now even more ridiculous for Slovenia.

And more... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Give me kahvakiekko anytime

Finns come to SLO and we will teach you ice hockey ! FREE of charge !

Referee or not, 2 for 5 on the PK isn't acceptable...

Haha, the referee is incredible. Both Finland and Slovenia are getting some very bizarre calls, this ain't even hockey.

And user "slovenija", could you tone down the trolling please?

Kind of surprised the Finns are playing bad, but I'm stoked to hear Kopitar with 2 goals.

Finns come to SLO and we will teach you ice hockey ! FREE of charge !

I think we can do that your "hockey" If u get the puck, slam the puck off your own zone

Kind of surprised the Finns are playing bad, but I'm stoked to hear Kopitar with 2 goals.
And he really plays good. Looks way better than last year, calmer and safer, always plays with his head up and is at the right spot to the right time.

Koivu junior had a nice shift there. And a penalty for Ruutu. :shakehead

Ofcourse we need Koivu and Selänne to beat Slovenia. :innocent:

Oh that ref really sucks. Two awful calls, first for Finland and now even more ridiculous for Slovenia.

And more... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Give me kahvakiekko anytime
Yes, I never realised how much I miss clutch and grab.

Same thing with the nhl.

This game is a mockery of hockey.

Ofcourse we need Koivu and Selänne to beat Slovenia. :innocent:

Oh that ref really sucks. Two awful calls, first for Finland and now even more ridiculous for Slovenia.

And more... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Give me kahvakiekko anytime

As you can see, the Finns are on the best way to loose against Slovenia. I don't see any improvement in the finnish game since the first period. S. Koiv, T. Selänne, O. Jokinen etc. are really missing.

Did Peltonen just miss an open net from a meters distance?

ok, 3-3

3-3. We will take the last period 4-0! Comoon guys!

As you can see, the Finns are on the best way to loose against Slovenia. I don't see any improvement in the finnish game since the first period. S. Koiv, T. Selänne, O. Jokinen etc. are really missing.


Oh get real. Are you making conclusions based on this game. None of the Slovenian players would play in the Finnish league, nevermind the national team.

Sean has been our best player today, by far.

Oh get real. Are you making conclusions based on this game. None of the Slovenian players would play in the Finnish league, nevermind the national team.

Kopitar would

Oh get real. Are you making conclusions based on this game. None of the Slovenian players would play in the Finnish league, nevermind the national team.
Kopitar!!! :teach:

Two periods gone and Finland hasn't been in the lead for a second.

Not a chance. Only four foreign players allowed per team. Ofcourse, not every foreign player work out for their team but the aim for foreign acquisitions is higher than Kopitar.


Edit. I mean this season ofcourse. If my favourite team signed Kopitar for next season, I'd be absolutely ecstatic. But he'll play in the AHL next year. Awesome talent.

Oh get real. Are you making conclusions based on this game. None of the Slovenian players would play in the Finnish league, nevermind the national team.

Don't write nonsense here, please... At last 3 or 4 could easily.

Not a chance. Only four foreign players allowed per team. Ofcourse, not every foreign player work out for their team but the aim for foreign acquisitions is higher than Kopitar.

Higher than the 18 year-old who just scored two goals on your team?

Not a chance. Only four foreign players allowed per team. Ofcourse, not every foreign player work out for their team but the aim for foreign acquisitions is higher than Kopitar.

Than the post makes no sense. If there's a limit on imports, than the comparison doesn't fit at all

Kopitar would

I think he would be a dominant player in SM-liiga.

Kopitar would

I'm leaning towards this opinion too.

I thought the goals Slovenia scored were quite pretty! Go Slovenia!

I just dont like the way Saravo, Mäntylä and Lehtinen are playing.

That bad excuse of a ref and new rules make it look even worse, and as somebody said before this should be hockey and not penalty contest!

Mäntylä got a really odd penalty, when he turned some Slo player hit the back of his skate and fell down.

If the finns dont win this game, they should be humiliated by some midevil and very cruel way!

Yep, Kopitar would do fine in Finnish league.

Don't write nonsense here, please... At last 3 or 4 could easily.

Really, two Slovenian players have played in the finnish league. Ivo Jan and Nik Zupancic. Both have played for the Slovenian national team. Both were awful, vomit inducing rubbish here.

Really, two Slovenian players have played in the finnish league. Ivo Jan and Nik Zupancic. Both have played for the Slovenian national team. Both were awful, vomit inducing rubbish here.

Actually Miha Rebolj tried with Saipa few seasons ago also....but didn´t do too well.

Than the post makes no sense. If there's a limit on imports, than the comparison doesn't fit at all


Doesn't it? I said he wouldn't play in SM-liiga and have explained why. And the Finnish national team is a lot tougher to make.

Tume: I wasn't aware he played regular season games. I thougth he tried in the preseason games.

Good Night SLO! beauty!

Really, two Slovenian players have played in the finnish league. Ivo Jan and Nik Zupancic. Both have played for the Slovenian national team. Both were awful, vomit inducing rubbish here.

Really. One can only admire Finnish fans' manners.
When just ONE of your players "weighs" twice od three times more than our team combined...

Really, two Slovenian players have played in the finnish league. Ivo Jan and Nik Zupancic. Both have played for the Slovenian national team. Both were awful, vomit inducing rubbish here.
Wha? Zupancic rubbish? Come on now that's a bit harsh, he was a decent player and Jan was also very good, with Hermes at least.

When just ONE of your players "weighs" twice od three times more than our team combined...

Oh come on, Aki isn't that fat ;) Thats Tkachuk you're talking about.

What on earth is Peltonen doing with the C?
He is invisible this game, and does nothing for 40 minutes to spark his teammates into playing properly.

That should be a penalty shot. 5-3pp lets make it 5-3!

Really, two Slovenian players have played in the finnish league. Ivo Jan and Nik Zupancic. Both have played for the Slovenian national team. Both were awful, vomit inducing rubbish here.

Zupancic wasn't all that bad. 30 points in 52 games with JYP isn't rubbish to me. Jan wasn't great but he played just 10 games so you cannot judge him so harshly.

Oh come on... What a feat, to win against SLO with so many PP2s..

Man, T. Ruutu better score soon or that monkey on his back is gonna grow into a gorilla.

The Finns really play an awful powerplay. Already 5 times they had the opportunity to play 5 against 3 and not one single goal. This against a team like Slovenia.

I hope the Finns will improve their game in the next day 200 % otherwise they will suck completely against stronger teams.

That's just 2much. PPing.
Come on, admit it already.

Jee! Fin-Slo 5-3. awful game. awful ref. Great fans in arena! 2points jee.

Latvia next. Will be difficult...

But in Niitty we trust!

That's just 2much. PPing.
Come on, admit it already.

This is like some damn ringette-game.

That's just 2much. PPing.
Come on, admit it already.

What do you mean? Sorry, I don't want to offense your team, they are playing well considering their skills, but normally Finland should beat them clearly. It's Finland playing bad.

[QUOTE=Finnswiss]The Finns really play an awful powerplay.

Yeah, really.. 5 goals in PP (1 or 2).
Don't post bull, please.

You know this would have easily been a Slovenian victory if they had Berg on their team, instead.

[QUOTE=Finnswiss]The Finns really play an awful powerplay.

Yeah, really.. 5 goals in PP (1 or 2).
Don't post bull, please.

5 goals but how many missed goal chances???

[QUOTE=Finnswiss]The Finns really play an awful powerplay.

Yeah, really.. 5 goals in PP (1 or 2).
Don't post bull, please.

But with all that PP-time, they should've scored at least 5 more! Even though they've scored 5 times, the PP isn't just working like it should.

[QUOTE=Jesenice]

5 goals but how many missed goal chances???

Why does it matter so much? Nbd is telling me that 5 PP goals are a sign of bad powerplay.

So this is the infamous "no tolerance"?

No thank you.

[QUOTE=Jokeri]

Why does it matter so much? Nbd is telling me that 5 PP goals are a sign of bad powerplay.

Because with that kind of PP-% you are in trouble against better teams.

So for those who could actually see... could you share some insight on Kopitar?

I have to give props to the Slovenian team. :clap: They gave all they had and took advantage of all chances they were given. Very good game but bad result for Slovenia, very bad game but good result for Finland.

[QUOTE=Jokeri]

Why does it matter so much? Nbd is telling me that 5 PP goals are a sign of bad powerplay.


Because your team is maybe the weakest team in WC. With our normal play, we should score 10-15 goals against teams like Slo.

[QUOTE=Jesenice]Because your team is maybe the weakest team in WC. With our normal play, we should score 10-15 goals against teams like Slo.

Let's not start with the 'our normal play'-stuff.
This was us today.

We can improve, but there is nothing like
'our normal play' as it is not a standard.

Come on, it was the first game and this is always very difficult.
It will be better in the next game for sure. So don't worry to much because against better teams Finland will be much better!

I have to give props to the Slovenian team. :clap: They gave all they had and took advantage of all chances they were given. Very good game but bad result for Slovenia, very bad game but good result for Finland.

Agreed. I hope this gives a boost to Slovenians to keep trying. This is a very good improvement from 12-0, I don't think that it was all up to bad play from the Finnish side. :handclap:

[QUOTE=Jesenice]


Because your team is maybe the weakest team in WC. With our normal play, we should score 10-15 goals against teams like Slo.
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

[QUOTE=Jesenice]


Because your team is maybe the weakest team in WC. With our normal play, we should score 10-15 goals against teams like Slo.

First of all, the weakest team in the tournament is definitely Italy, with DEN/NOR/SLO being next.
Second, nbd is denying that your team is much better. But to state that you should bong 15 goals is just plain rediculous.
And to summarize: your team wasn't that bad today, no matter what you think.. our team just did our best.

I have to give props to the Slovenian team. :clap: I agree. Team Slovenia has really developed since our last match three years ago (12-0). They had tonight great goaltending and their D-men really put their bodies front of the puck. Also they could create very balanced attacks and use the space that finnish d-men gave them.

Still I`m bit dissapointed that Nik Zupancic wasn`t there. He was great in JYP in 1999-00.

[QUOTE=Jokeri]

Why does it matter so much? Nbd is telling me that 5 PP goals are a sign of bad powerplay.

The Finns could play 5 times 5 against 3 and didn't achieve to score one single time. In the whole game the Finns could play 30 minutes with at least 1 man more. That means 15 times in powerplay and only 5 goals, that's really bad. Your team played a better powerplay.
And sorry without offensing Slovenia, with this powerplay they played this afternoon, they hadn't scored even once against stronger teams like Sweden, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Canada or USA.

We can summarize the game as follow:

Finland: powerplay=really bad
penaltykilling=bad too
offense=bad
defense= insufficient too

the only positive thing for the Finns is that they finally won.

Slovenia: goaltending= very good
powerplay= good at least in the beginning
defense=not bad

the best player of Slovenia the goalie and Kopitar.

By the Finns nobody played really well.

T.Ruutu and Koivu were best Finnish players, too bad they didn`t get much ice time.

Slovenia :clap:

I agree. Team Slovenia has really developed since our last match three years ago (12-0). They had tonight great goaltending and their D-men really put their bodies front of the puck. Also they could create very balanced attacks and use the space that finnish d-men gave them.

Still I`m bit dissapointed that Nik Zupancic wasn`t there. He was great in JYP in 1999-00.
My thoughts exactly. Especially the slovenian goaltender was awesome today and was their best player today (Kopitar a close second) imo. Still, to me it's clear that Team Finland underestimated Team Slovenia and that is a very big reason why this game was so hard for Team Finland.

[QUOTE=Jesenice]

Because with that kind of PP-% you are in trouble against better teams.

.3 PP% is bad for you?
You're not playing Armenia for God's sake. Some teams HAVE actually improved, you know?

T.Ruutu and Koivu were best Finnish players, too bad they didn`t get much ice time.

Yes, and also the other young players Miettinen, Bergenheim and Jokinen played really good.
But the worst players of Finland for me were Nummelin and Peltonen. :shakehead

[QUOTE=Big Me]

.3 PP% is bad for you?
You're not playing Armenia for God's sake. Some teams HAVE actually improved, you know?

Like I said, I give props to team Slovenia, they played very good game. But, with that kind of PP that our team introduced, you are in serious trouble against teams like Canada, Sweden or Czech Republic, not to offend Slovenians.

[QUOTE=Jesenice]

Like I said, I give props to team Slovenia, they played very good game. But, with that kind of PP that our team introduced, you are in serious trouble against teams like Canada, Sweden or Czech Republic, not to offend Slovenians.

Hey, none offence taken, we're just discussing here..
Your PP(2) obviously wasn't stellar, but it was decent. Our d-men made some sloppy unnecessary penalties.
If I was asked, I'd be worried about Finnish EQ play.
Anyway your youngsters had a very good game while Petteri and Ville disappointed.

[QUOTE=Big Me]
If I was asked, I'd be worried about Finnish EQ play.


I was just coming to that... But if refereeing is like it was today, all the games will be settled on PP and that's why I'm a bit worried.

[QUOTE=Jesenice]

I was just coming to that... But if refereeing is like it was today, all the games will be settled on PP and that's why I'm a bit worried.

Agree on that firmly.

"zero tolerance" EQUALS "p**sy play"
PLUS Polyakov today was reeeeally 2 strict.

Finally saw Kopitar play. He's worth the hype.

Finally saw Kopitar play. He's worth the hype.

How did his skating look?

How did his skating look?

His skating was very impressive! :bow:

Not a chance. Only four foreign players allowed per team. Ofcourse, not every foreign player work out for their team but the aim for foreign acquisitions is higher than Kopitar.


Edit. I mean this season ofcourse. If my favourite team signed Kopitar for next season, I'd be absolutely ecstatic. But he'll play in the AHL next year. Awesome talent.



I think the Kings have different plans, but we'll see.

Well at the end Team Slovenia didnt have the endurance to stay with Finns, in 3rd period they had no chance.

But with the attitude that most of the Finn-defenders had in our own end, that could be described as "stay at home, dont move and use a bitta poke-check or whatever" is just what i dont want to see. That leads only to embarrassing moments like Saravo had, ducking for the puck(or whatever he was trying to do).

I dont know what it is, but i just dont like the way T.Kallio plays. He just doesnt have the grid to make a game winner/to be a keyplayer against big teams(hope im wrong).

But the worst players of Finland for me were Nummelin and Peltonen. :shakehead

Aside from assisting our 1st goal, Nummelin created three breakaways for Finland (all wasted as usual) and was just about the only part of Finland's PP that was working alright (save for a few sloppy passes). He's definitely played better and Slovenia's 2nd goal can be partially blamed on him, but I wouldn't exactly call him the worst player on the team. In fact, none of our forwards looked more impressive with the puck than Nummelin IMO.

Does somedody know who gets the Man of the match title from Finland?

Aside from assisting our 1st goal, Nummelin created three breakaways for Finland (all wasted as usual) and was just about the only part of Finland's PP that was working alright (save for a few sloppy passes). He's definitely played better and Slovenia's 2nd goal can be partially blamed on him, but I wouldn't exactly call him the worst player on the team. In fact, none of our forwards looked more impressive with the puck than Nummelin IMO.

True.

I really wish that Koivu and T.Ruutu will get some PP time, they played great together. Rita was decent, but maybe some other would do better in that line. Bergenheim, Hentunen?

I am so ashamed of my country. I thought that this was a easy match but no. A big catastrophe.

With game like this latvia is going to beat us so hard.

Does somedody know who gets the Man of the match title from Finland?
T.Kallio

I thought that this was a easy match but no

I'm pretty sure that's what our players thought too...

I am so ashamed of my country. I thought that this was a easy match but no. A big catastrophe.

With game like this latvia is going to beat us so hard.

But they will not play like this in the Latvia game because our players know that Latvia is a very good team which they don't underestimate.

Yes. Its true that slovenia played very well. Kopitar is god :bow:

I'd say Sean Bergenheim was our best player today, him and Mikko Lehtonen are perhaps the only players I can give a "lion" for their performance, all others get at least one "sheep".

Our two man PP get's three "sheeps" today.

If we play like this against Latvia only Niitty can save us.

I'd say Sean Bergenheim was our best player today, him and Mikko Lehtonen are perhaps the only players I can give a "lion" for their performance, all others get at least one "sheep".

Lehtonen made couple of big mistakes in own end. But I still think it`s good to have him around, he has a great shot and isn`t afraid to throw a check.

Yes, Lehtonen really played well. And he didn't make such big mistakes than many other players.
And hopefully Bäckström will get the number 2 spot in goal behind Niittymäki because Norrena is crap and shouldn't play for Finland anymore.

Yes, Lehtonen really played well. And he didn't make such big mistakes than many other players.
And hopefully Bäckström will get the number 2 spot in goal behind Niittymäki because Norrena is crap and shouldn't play for Finland anymore.

Yea right. And the defensemen who didn't seem to care about the match shouldn't play in the next match either, or? :banghead:

Yes. Its true that slovenia played very well. Kopitar is god :bow:

A.Kopitar is going to be a huge player for the Kings.

Slovenia & Kopitar :yo: Nice job :handclap:

Yes, Lehtonen really played well. And he didn't make such big mistakes than many other players.
And hopefully Bäckström will get the number 2 spot in goal behind Niittymäki because Norrena is crap and shouldn't play for Finland anymore.
Oh please, Norrena or any other goalie couldn't have stopped any of the goals. I'm not a very big fan of Norrena but you really can't blame him.

As for Kopitar, he's awesome. :bow:

Oh please, Norrena or any other goalie couldn't have stopped any of the goals. I'm not a very big fan of Norrena but you really can't blame him.

As for Kopitar, he's awesome. :bow:


I am not only speaking of yesterdays match but he is crap for Team Finland all years.

I am not only speaking of yesterdays match but he is crap for Team Finland all years.

I dunno, but I've never got the idea of all Norrena bashing. IMO he's not any worse (a bit more consistent even) than Bäckström and always available, so he gets the nod as the best alternative.

Let's just hope that Nitty will have his olympic mojo back, as I feel he'll get a bashing as well if he doesn't.

Norrena is a great WHC goalie, IMO the best we have in Europe.

But he never deserved a spot on the original Olympic roster (though he ended up being just fine). Toivonen, Niittymäki and Toskala are all better.

The lack of the experienced elite is visible IMO. Westerlund can't motivate to save a cow in India.

Norrena is crap and shouldn't play for Finland anymore.

Norrena did what he could. It's Tuukka Mäntylä that has to be cut from the team. He's just horrible. He makes big mistakes in every game. He's small, has a bad shot, plays stupid....he lacks almost everything is needed for a good d-man. I'd be much more comfortable to see there 197cm Malmivaara than 172cm Mäntylä.

Oh please, Norrena or any other goalie couldn't have stopped any of the goals. I'm not a very big fan of Norrena but you really can't blame him.

As for Kopitar, he's awesome. :bow:

I agree with Savolainen, Norrena is crap..

Norrena << Myllys

I agree with Savolainen, Norrena is crap..


I second that. Crap.

Still so sure about that "crappy" game of yours on FRI.. The Czechs managed only a one-goal win...

Let's look at some facts here regarding norrenas performance against Slovenia.

First goal: Perfect shot on the PP with a good screen infront of Norrena, no goalie could have saved it, the goal of the tournament so far imo.

Second goal: The only questionable goal let in by Norrena, he should have covered the ice better, but it hit the post and in so it was a accurate shot by kopitar.

Third goal: Very lucky bounce to Kopitar, no chance whatsoever for Norrena to make the transition.

But overall i agree that Norrena isn't the kind of goalie that's gonna win you the big games, he hasn't won a single one yet at least.

Still so sure about that "crappy" game of yours on FRI.. The Czechs managed only a one-goal win...

You are right. Looks like the Slovenian team is actually good, and the fact that they were able to keep it close against the Czechs is testimony to that.
At this point, I'm glad we we able to beat them 5-3... Could have been a lot worse.

I hope Slovenia beats Latvia. Good luck guys!
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