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creative giant* 10-30-2003, 01:51 PM Hey, i'm here from the oilers board. What would you want from the oilers (reasonably) for Freddy Modin? I was thinking along the lines of Jason Smith and Ethan Moreau. Both are sound defensively, and moreau can put them away too. Other trades??
TB_FANATIC 10-30-2003, 02:18 PM No, Modin is not on the block unless Edmonton is willing to part with Rita or an NHL caliber power forward/#4 defenseman. Hes positioned himself on the Lightnings third line and would require alot more than Edmonton is probably willing to part with given their financial situation. In a perfect world id say Brewer and Rita for Kubina and Modin; but im probably dreaming.
Phaze 10-30-2003, 02:26 PM No, Modin is not on the block unless Edmonton is willing to part with Rita or an NHL caliber power forward/#4 defenseman. Hes positioned himself on the Lightnings third line and would require alot more than Edmonton is probably willing to part with given their financial situation. In a perfect world id say Brewer and Rita for Kubina and Modin; but im probably dreaming.
Wow, yes you are dreaming. What has Modin done to get so much trade value? Jason Smith is a fine dman, I think that is a soild offer from Edmonton there. Dmen like Smith are warriors and are great come playoff time. Every team loves guys like him IMO.
Oceanic39* 10-30-2003, 04:25 PM That is a solid offer. Jason Smith is a very solid dman and Moreau has a had a great, gritty year so far.
That's a good deal.
I'm always hesitant to "agree" to any deals on here, but I like that one.
I was hoping TB would have grabbed Smith from TOR when he went for a mediocre pick.
TB_FANATIC 10-30-2003, 06:05 PM lol, as you can see im a love Modin; id want a 1 for 1 back though
Bolthed 10-30-2003, 11:32 PM Where do I sign? I love Jason Smith (he's a captain for cryin' out loud!) and NO ONE can convince me Moreau couldn't do exactly what Modin is doing on our third line. Geez, that's more than a solid offer ... it's a take-the-loot-and-run-for-the-hills offer.
TB_FAN, nothing personal, but you're valuations of players is more than a little bit off here. You wouldn't do Modin for Smith AND Moreau, but you would do Modin AND Kubina for an unproven prospect who hasn't yet capitalized on his chances at making a team that has bent over backwards to give him a spot? Goofy. I'm not even so sure Brewer is a clear-cut upgrade over Kubina.
Oceanic39* 10-31-2003, 02:55 AM What's a "love Modin?" ;)
Why a 1 for 1?
Both of those guys could step into the Lightning lineup right now. I think it's a fine deal.
I don't think Moreau is the "threat" that Modin is, but he certainly could top the play of Roy and/or Fedotenko on Lecavalier's line.
TB_FANATIC 10-31-2003, 09:09 AM Depth is not something this team lacks, and with the chemistry going right now I don't want to see anyone out of the lineup who has been helping to contribute; thats my reasoning. I've also seen this team on the short side of too many quantity over quality trades. Outside the Khabibulin deal, I don't think there has been a trade this team has made in the last....3 years where we have made a 2 or 3 for 1 offer(Im not including player and late rd pick). First thing I think when a trade is mentioned sending one of our main guys to another team for multiple players is that its a downgrade at the position. Id just rather keep Modin, even if total value there is more coming back.
Bolthed; I wasn't being serious about the deal; Rita and Brewer(hence the dreaming part), not outweighing their value. Im only mentioning this in part because Edmonton was the youngest team in the league last year and they may want some exp on their lines. I just thrue that out there for the hell of it to address the "Other trades??" part of the original post and it kind of made sense...top forward prospect and solid young defenseman for power forward and potential #4 defenseman. Like I said, I wouldn't trade Modin anyways.
TB_FANATIC 10-31-2003, 09:12 AM Bolthed; I wasn't being serious about the deal; Rita and Brewer(hence the dreaming part), not outweighing their value.
now that I reread my post I did sound kind of serious :dunno:
joeminus 10-31-2003, 09:37 AM Depth is not something this team lacks ...
Now that we're just one injury away from Darren Rumble, I'm not sure I can agree with that statement.
petec1978* 10-31-2003, 07:59 PM Hopefully Dicaire and Holmqvist do some serious developing in a short span before that comes to fruition.
On the good side: I'd love to see the roster spot that just opened be used to move up Shane Willis. I know there's a snowball's chance of that happening, but I believe it would help a series of line combination changes that would help revive this team's even strength offense.
Were this my team, I'd move St. Louis onto Vinny's line and reunite that Willis/Lecavalier/St. Louis line that went gangbusters down the stretch two years ago. I would then follow that by moving Modin to his off wing (he's Swedish, he should be down with it, and it'll improve his shooting angles) and putting together a Stillman/Richards/Modin second line.
Willis/Lecavalier/St. Louis
Stillman/Richards/Modin
Andreychuk/Taylor/Dingman (AKA the Dirt Line)
Fedotenko/Cibak/Clymer
I feel that would bring a lot more balance to the scoring situation than what we have now and without sacrificing anything on the lower lines.
-Pete Choquette
aapbolt 11-01-2003, 03:38 AM Someone send an e-mail to little jay and pull the string on that deal. modin for Smith and Moreau! Thankyou very much and while you are at it see if you can send Keefe and Fedo to Chicago for Daze and put him on Vinny's line with Moreau. That line would score some goals. Also please reserve my tickets for the Cup finals.
camboy 11-01-2003, 05:56 AM Hey, i'm here from the oilers board. What would you want from the oilers (reasonably) for Freddy Modin? I was thinking along the lines of Jason Smith and Ethan Moreau. Both are sound defensively, and moreau can put them away too. Other trades??
No way Moreau gets traded in that kind of deal. I think he is as close to "untouchable" as it gets on the Oilers. MacT and Lowe love his leadership....and he is very affordable. I fail to see where giving up Smith for Modin could help the Oilers. How about Smith and Pisani and a 3rd for Kubina? Smith and Pisani would shore up TB's defence....where as Kubina gets the Oilers a PP qb and a roster spot for Rita. Just a thought.
Erack82 11-01-2003, 06:42 AM If Kubina were going to be traded away, I would like something along the lines of M-A Bergeron in return.
creative giant* 11-01-2003, 10:36 AM No way Moreau gets traded in that kind of deal. I think he is as close to "untouchable" as it gets on the Oilers. MacT and Lowe love his leadership....and he is very affordable. I fail to see where giving up Smith for Modin could help the Oilers. How about Smith and Pisani and a 3rd for Kubina? Smith and Pisani would shore up TB's defence....where as Kubina gets the Oilers a PP qb and a roster spot for Rita. Just a thought.
actually, only very recently has ethan moreau become a valuable member of the oilers. lots of people here see him stepping into marchant's previous role, but lowe likes to pull the trigger on players when he can get the most for them, and if he sees moreau as topped out right now, he just might include him as part of a larger trade that would send a stud defenseman back to edmonton, as we are really lacking on d right now, so maybe not this deal in particular would not work
with prospects like bergeron, lynch, and others possibly being able to step into full roles in the lineup next year, the need for smith and cross would be minimal, as the oilers thrive on speed. jason smith IS a warrior, and we would be very sad to trade him, but the fact is, he just might walk soon anyways as the end of his contract is near. we know all too well how bad that is (ala cujo), and klowe has been efficient in stopping that from happening.
the oilers desperately need a second line. a potential 30 goal threat like modin (even though he has lacked the last two years), on a speedy team like the oilers could be a thing of beauty. i've seen him play, and when you guys got him from the leafs for nothing i couldn't sleep for a week knowing the oilers could have had him for that price.
TB_FANATIC 11-01-2003, 05:17 PM Now that we're just one injury away from Darren Rumble, I'm not sure I can agree with that statement.
Nothing wrong with Darren Rumble :teach:
TB_FANATIC 11-01-2003, 05:23 PM tak on two more points for Modin. Im a love Modin :bow:
Erack82 11-02-2003, 05:05 AM After the way Moreau and Smith played last night, I would definetly make that deal for Modin. In all honesty, this is one of the first times I have seen Moreau play since his Chicago days, both he has improved in the skating department. Still not the flashiest guy out there, but he works is butt off.
PS: I still like Marc-Andre Bergeron, and now hulking defensemen Alexei Semenov :D
joeminus 11-02-2003, 06:15 AM Nothing wrong with Darren Rumble :teach:
There's nothing wrong with Darren Rumble if:
1) He's playing in the AHL
2) He's playing up to 10 minutes as the emergency 6th D-man on an NHL team
Unfortunately, this team doesn't have that No. 1 guy who can hog 30 minutes of ice time on the blueline. So we have to spread our minutes around fairly evenly among the 6 D-men. When Rumble subbed for Lukowich, he played 13 minutes (including a couple on the powerplay) and as a result Boyle, Cullimore, Pratt, Sarich and Kubina all had to play 20+ minutes and we paid the price when Atlanta came storming back with 2 goals in the last 5 minutes of the third period.
Oh, yeah: :teach:
TB_FANATIC 11-04-2003, 07:12 AM :teach:
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