[Football] L1 draft

Draft order

1st round
1- GoM : Pauleta (PSG)
2- The Rage : Juninho (Lyon)
3- Flyhigh : Cris (Lyon)
4- PK : Yepes (PSG)
5- O=S/Bakos : Coupet (Lyon)
6- Les Habs : Ribéry (Marseille)

2nd round
7- Les Habs : Tiago (Lyon)
8- O=S/Bakos : Diarra (Lyon)
9- PK : Wiltord (Lyon)
10- Flyhigh : Gourcuff (Rennes)
11- The Rage : Kalou (PSG)
12- GoM : Ramé (Bordeaux)

3rd round
13- GoM : Réveillère (Lyon)
14- The Rage : Malouda (Lyon)
15- Flyhigh : Toulalan (Nantes)
16- PK : Kallstrom (Rennes)
17- O=S/Bakos : Rothen (PSG)
18- Les Habs : Mavuba (Bordeaux)

4th round
19- Les Habs : Pedretti (Lyon)
20- O=S/Bakos : Fred (Lyon)
21- PK : Diarra (Lens)
22- Flyhigh : Luyindula (Auxerre)
23- The Rage : Govou (Lyon)
24- GoM : Diallo (Nantes)

5th round
25- GoM : Kapo (Monaco)
26- The Rage : Barthez (Marseille)
27- Flyhigh : Cacapa (Lyon)
28- PK : Kahlenberg (Auxerre)
29- O=S/Bakos : Abidal (Lyon)
30- Les Habs : Utaka (Rennes)

6th round
31- Les Habs : Frau (Lens)
32- O=S/Bakos : Taiwo (Marseille)
33- PK : Meriem (Bordeaux)
34- Flyhigh : Monterrubio (Rennes)
35- The Rage : Hilton (Lens)
36- GoM : Diatta (Lyon)

7th round
37- GoM : Cheyrou (Bordeaux)
38- The Rage : Armand (PSG)
39- Flyhigh : Zokora (St Etienne)
40- PK : Maicon (Monaco)
41- O=S/Bakos : Squilacci (Monaco)
42- Les Habs : Givet (Monaco)

8th round
43- Les Habs : Edman (Rennes)
44- O=S/Bakos : Makoun (Lille)
45- PK : Camara (St Etienne)
46- Flyhigh : Clerc (Lyon)
47- The Rage : Frei (Rennes)
48- GoM : Savinaud (Nantes)

9th round
49- GoM : Denilson (Bordeaux)
50- The Rage : Beye (Marseille)
51- Flyhigh : Berthod (Lyon)
52- PK : Landreau (Nantes)
53- O=S/Bakos : Diawara (Sochaux)
54- Les Habs : Rozhenal (PSG)

10th round
55- Les Habs : Assou-Ekotto (Lens)
56- O=S/Bakos : Dhorasso (PSG)
57- PK : Pagis (Marseille)
58- Flyhigh : Feindouno (St Etienne)
59- The Rage : Bodmer (Lille)
60- GoM : Modesto (Monaco)

11th round
61- GoM : Signorino (Nantes)
62- The Rage : Planus (Bordeaux)
63- Flyhigh : Bracigliano (Nancy)
64- PK : Mensah (Rennes)
65- O=S/Bakos : Maoulida (Marseille)
66- Les Habs : Itandje (Lens)

JUDGES : GB, Belizarius and Evilo. I remind everyone that judges CAN give advices to anyone.

Good luck to everyone involved :handclap:


And I would take Pieroni and / or Mirallas in the first round ;)

First advice from me :
There are 5 players worthy of 1st overall. 1 goalie, 2 defensemen, 1 midfielder and 1 striker.

I guess I have the same list... :D

I guess I have the same list... :D

I'd remove that one defenseman Evilo has and have 4 guys worthy of being a #1 pick here.

I'd remove that one defenseman Evilo has and have 4 guys worthy of being a #1 pick here.
Which of the two defensemen would you remove? The hairy one? Or the bold on? :D

The bald one stands

the hairy one is just a tad below, I'd probably have him around #5-7 though.

Meh. I disagree. On a better team, he'd be among the top 10 defenseman in the world IMO. He's that good.

Yes, I see... so I have really the same list!
And I agree with Evilo. The hairy guy was awesome in his former team, keeping them alive most of the time, never making a mistake... same for the bald one.
I'm sure we're talking about the same d-men. Still, I'll choose the bald. :)

Yes, I see... so I have really the same list!
And I agree with Evilo. The hairy guy was awesome in his former team, keeping them alive most of the time, never making a mistake... same for the bald one.
I'm sure we're talking about the same d-men. Still, I'll choose the bald. :)
As Helice would say : You're BIASED! :D

Good luck guys - i will be back on saturday, but until then the 'Beer Pots' will rule L1 :yo:

I'll be gone from Thursday afternoon until Saturday evening, but of course I have absolute confidence that Belizarius will do a fantastic job of picking anyways, but just letting those in charge know.

I'll be gone from Thursday afternoon until Saturday evening, but of course I have absolute confidence that Belizarius will do a fantastic job of picking anyways, but just letting those in charge know.
Hmm, Beli is NOT picking.
Send me a list, I'll pick for you.

Hmm, Beli is NOT picking.
Send me a list, I'll pick for you.

Hey Evilo, you there?

Hmm, Beli is NOT picking.
Send me a list, I'll pick for you.

So I see, I'll start working on a list and send it to you.

FlyHigh, check your PM's

Draft order

1st round
1- Les Habs
2- The Rage
3- Flyhigh
4- PK
5- O=S/Bakos
6- GoM

2nd round
7- GoM
8- O=S/Bakos
9- PK
10- Flyhigh
11- The Rage
12- Les Habs

3rd round
13- Les Habs
14- The Rage
15- Flyhigh
16- PK
17- O=S/Bakos
18- GoM

4th round
19- Les Habs
20- The Rage
21- Flyhigh
22- PK
23- O=S/Bakos
24- GoM

5th round
25- GoM
26- O=S/Bakos
27- PK
28- Flyhigh
29- The Rage
30- Les Habs


Evilo, you got the order of the 4th round wrong (I think). That has thus affected the whole draft. I'll hold off until you reply (and I assume this pushes back my 24 hour window as a result).

oops, I'll correct that.

Les Habs, we're waiting for your pick.
As soon as it's done, The Rage will have 24 hours.

Me and Les Habs switched picks...I take all of his, he takes all of mine

Problem is I know Ligue 1 as well as I know the back of someone else's hand, so give me a minute to figure out who to pick...:)

Hmm, I thought we said "no trade"?

I'm fine with this, but Les Habs has to know that he still can't pick 1st overall in any of the other drafts since he's supposed to have won this one.
You, however, are eligible for the 1st overall at some point.

Is everyone OK with Les Habs/GoM move?

Hmm, I thought we said "no trade"?

I'm fine with this, but Les Habs has to know that he still can't pick 1st overall in any of the other drafts since he's supposed to have won this one.
You, however, are eligible for the 1st overall at some point.

Is everyone OK with Les Habs/GoM move?

*Shrugs* he messaged me, I'm assuming because he's busy...I'm good either way

I don't think it's making a big difference between 1st or 6th in most of the leagues, so no problem. :)

OK, we have to get it started, so go ahead and make your pick.
Don't forget to PM the next guy on the list.

I changed the order to the new one.

I'm going mostly on ESPNSoccernet + Soccerway.com + Name recognition, so here's hoping the first pick isn't too dreadful...

I select FW Pedro Pauleta, PSG

Good choice.
I think there are two or three players better than him in L1, but striker is really the least impressive position, and with Pauleta, you are sure to have easily the best striker in L1. The drop off after him is very big.

Rage you're up.

Good choice.
I think there are two or three players better than him in L1, but striker is really the least impressive position, and with Pauleta, you are sure to have easily the best striker in L1. The drop off after him is very big.

:) yay, approval

I select Juninho from Lyon. I was worried he was going to go first, but thankfully he fell to me. Hell of a player.

I select Juninho from Lyon. I was worried he was going to go first, but thankfully he fell to me. Hell of a player.

can't believe you took him, I'll have my pick in a couple minutes.

Sorry about the delay, I'll take Cris, also from Lyon.

All are good picks IMO.
Though the top 5 is a no brainer (only the order was in question).
The rest will be interesting.
O=S/Bakos, you're up.

We select; Gregory Coupét, G - Lyon.

No accent, Coupet, but yes the obvious choice at 5th IMO.
Now it gets interesting. I have a list of about 10 players that can go here.

Les Habs you're up, please O=S, PM him.

No surprises in the 1st selections... any guy could be 1st or 5th depending of your strategy.

Now it's intersting in fact and I agree with Evilo... 10 players could be there, a lot of midfielders. ;)

Franck Ribery will be the 6th pick in the draft

Tiago will be the 7th pick in the draft

Franck Ribery will be the 6th pick in the draft


Tiago will be the 7th pick in the draft

Hmmm, I think this will be the first picks with some discussion surrounding them. Not that they're bad picks though...

Me and Bakos select former Ere Divisie player; Mahamadou Diarra, M - Lyon..

Ribéry is IMO a good choice, he could have went from 6 to 10.
Tiago is a very good pick also. He's very underrated, but he is a very important player.
Diarra is IMO a great pick at 8th.
He is IMO the 6th better player of L1 (maybe even better), but his position is very deep in french football.

Wise choices so far IMO.

PK's up.

5 of the top 8 picks are Lyon players.
Incredible, but hardly undeserved.
Actually the 9th or/and 10th pick could be Lyon players as well :eek:

5 of the top 8 picks are Lyon players.
Incredible, but hardly undeserved.
Actually the 9th or/and 10th pick could be Lyon players as well :eek:

Good point, and in the end there will/should be player(s) picked who hardly even figure on the pitch for Lyon and are usually merely benchwarmers.

Good point, and in the end there will/should be player(s) picked who hardly even figure on the pitch for Lyon and are usually merely benchwarmers.
Yes. It's really sickening the amount of talent Lyon has. They have two subs that are IMO among the best 20 L1 players and national team players. One position, they probably have two of the three best players (two of them are playing with their national team), and that position hasn't been picked yet.

What the first picks tell you as well is how stupid Domenech is for not taking Ribéry. He's the only player so far not playing with his national team (not having one single selection).

Yes. It's really sickening the amount of talent Lyon has. They have two subs that are IMO among the best 20 L1 players and national team players. One position, they probably have two of the three best players (two of them are playing with their national team), and that position hasn't been picked yet.

What the first picks tell you as well is how stupid Domenech is for not taking Ribéry. He's the only player so far not playing with his national team (not having one single selection).

BTW Evilo, why don't we also start another league in the meantime?

Well, if everyone is fine with that sure, why not?
But won't it be too much work?
I sure could use some picking action :D

My daughter will make the draw in an hour or so, and then we'll see.

Well, if everyone is fine with that sure, why not?
But won't it be too much work?
I sure could use some picking action :D

Nah.. If you want I could moderate the BOTR league..

I didn't mean too much work for me, I meant too much work for the guys picking in two leagues at the same time.

I didn't mean too much work for me, I meant too much work for the guys picking in two leagues at the same time.

I don't see how to be honest. I'm sure everyone has made their lists where they can just chose from. And if it doesn't work, we can always stop one of them temporarely.

OK, works for me.

Good choice.
Wiltord is highly underrated. He has a "never die "attitude, gives it all on the field, and is called "Mr Effort". He does have natural ability of course, but it's his work ethic that sets him apart.
He can play anywhere, has a huge heart, and does a tremedous job defensively.

Good choice.
Wiltord is highly underrated. He has a "never die "attitude, gives it all on the field, and is called "Mr Effort". He does have natural ability of course, but it's his work ethic that sets him apart.
He can play anywhere, has a huge heart, and does a tremedous job defensively.
Flyhigh is up. PK, did you think about PMing him?

Flyhigh is up. PK, did you think about PMing him?

Didn't he say he was going to be missing on Thursday? Damn this draft is going fast--I like it, the one previous one I was in dragged out for too long and everyone seemed to gradually lose interest. The small number of teams helps this also.

Ribéry is IMO a good choice, he could have went from 6 to 10.
Tiago is a very good pick also. He's very underrated, but he is a very important player.
Diarra is IMO a great pick at 8th.
He is IMO the 6th better player of L1 (maybe even better), but his position is very deep in french football.

Wise choices so far IMO.

TBH, this will be a tough draft for me. I have to stick with formation I'm going for. I also have very specific types of players and attributes that I'm looking for. Sometimes the best XI players you can get based on your picks doesn't always work. I keep thinking about Real Madrid and how much talent they have, yet as a side right now they're not as good as the "names" they have suggest.

Me and Bakos select former Ere Divisie player; Mahamadou Diarra, M - Lyon..

I select Sylvain Wiltord.

Both players who I was STRONGLY considering. In fact I was very close to choosing both of them (not together).

So far, all picks have been more or less good picks. No steals, no reaches.
But in the upcoming rounds, we'll see some weird choice IMO, especially when it comes down to filling the positions.

I guess 24 hours is up. I pick Bonaventure Kalou.

I guess 24 hours is up. I pick Bonaventure Kalou.
Interesting pick.

GoM is up in 24 hours. Flyhigh can pick anytime he logs in and before GoM.

So I wait for Flyhigh to make up his pick? Or could I go now?

So I wait for Flyhigh to make up his pick? Or could I go now?

I think u wait 24 hours after my pick.

So I wait for Flyhigh to make up his pick? Or could I go now?
You have to wait 13 hours at this point.
The reasonning is that if a guy is out for 48 hours, he won't have the nasty surprise of seeing ten GMs picking before him.

Alright, so it's about time now, I think...give or take a half hour

Every team needs a goalkeeper..so...I select GK Ulrich Rame (Bourdeaux)

Alright, so it's about time now, I think...give or take a half hour

Every team needs a goalkeeper..so...I select GK Ulrich Rame (Bourdeaux)
Wow, surprising pick, but a good one nonetheless IMO.
Ramé could have been a great goalie on a great team (was linked with Barca for a long time, but turned them down every time). Instead he chose to stick to his Bordeaux team, and after two rough seasons, he's back to his best level.
Still, two goalies can be considered better IMO.
Not a bad choice, but at least questionnable.

GOM, wait another 24 hours and then you're free to make another pick.

I really like the Ramé selection - hands down :)

Really sorry guys, my flight was incredibly delayed, (traveling nightmare), I'll pick as soon as I do a quick bit of research.

Alright, I'm going to go out on a major limb here, but from the way you guys have described this player and from what I've heard about him in other places, I'm going to select Yoann Gourcuff of Rennes. I'd like to hear some opinions on it though, good or not.

Alright, I'm going to go out on a major limb here, but from the way you guys have described this player and from what I've heard about him in other places, I'm going to select Yoann Gourcuff of Rennes. I'd like to hear some opinions on it though, good or not.

IMO it's a good choice. He's really only proven in my book based on this season. From what I understand though he's been quite good thoughout this campaign. I think you're taking him a bit early, but then I'm not surprised what with Evilo and Co going on and on about him all day.

Well he's got the talent for the first round obviously, and I can't say it's a bad choice.
However, there are still some impact players out there that are more proven. Gourcuff will be IMO better than these players (and could already be), but you have to factor in what thee guys have achieved.
Good, risky pick.

GoM can pick anytime he logs in now. Please Flyhigh PM him.

Yes, good pick... Gourcuff is still unproven in major competitions IMO (a little UEFA this year). I think we could choose a lot of good players before him but why not... He's a rising player in France and could earn the Best Young player award this year (probably Ribery, but who knows).

So, who's up?

I am...and I select D Anthony Reveillere (OL)

The Rage's up.

Can't believe one player's still available to The Rage.

Which doesn't mean this is a bad pick.
Think of Réveillère as very close to Sagnol.

Can't believe one player's still available to The Rage.Can't believe it myself.. but will he be the same player?

I pick Malouda from Lyon.

I pick Malouda from Lyon.

Very good choice and what a steal at this point.:thumbu:

There it goes!
Great pick. Surpised to see him fall this low.
Malouda is a very good team player, good winger, but also a left back at the start of his career. He can play anywhere on the left.

Flyhigh is up again.

I was sweating when you guys said one obvious choice was left, didn't want to make the wrong choice there, but I'm glad I picked up a good player.

I'm not sure Helice is thinking about the same player.
I think he's (with his usual bias ;) ) thinking about a NT player that used to play in Italy.

(with his usual bias ;) ) Remember, it's YOU talking about Ligue1.. don't get confused about who has bias ;)

Remember, it's YOU talking about Ligue1.. don't get confused about who has bias ;)
So am I right? Were you talking about a former Calcio player?

So am I right? Were you talking about a former Calcio player?No. I thought my previous post should have suggested you were wrong.. :D

OK ;)
And BTW, I was thinking about a french player. Not Che Guevarra.

Rage just stole my pick, but I will take Jeremy Toulalan

One of my favourite player... :)
Very good choice. ;)

BTW, I read today he seemed to choose Lyon for next year.

I select from Rennes, midfielder Kim Källström.


Argh !

Two young choices.
Interesting.

Bakos/O=S are up.

We´re proud to select: Jerome Rothen

We´re proud to select: Jerome Rothen
You shouldn't be as proud... :biglaugh:

Well Rothen would be a first rounder without his injuries. He's really been bothered the last two years. But he's still one of the best L1 players when healthy.
I'm surprised to see him picked this early.

Well Rothen would be a first rounder without his injuries. He's really been bothered the last two years. But he's still one of the best L1 players when healthy.
I'm surprised to see him picked this early.

Just kidding... He was awesome with Monaco but I think a let his brain over there when he signed with Paris... ;)

With the lack of quality wingers, Rothen stood out the most to us.

I have several wingers better than him... at least 2 assists machine from the beginning of the season and far more consistant and less injury prone than him.

There's a winger available that's falling in this draft (he should have been picked already), but he plays the other side.
And there's a real steal possible as well for someone looking for an offensive midfielder that can both pass and score, as well as shoot the free kicks and corners.

Oh and Rothen has the best left foot in the league. The problem lies with the fragility of his ankle.

Rothen's an international, I couldn't find many wingers who are too.

Rothen's an international, I couldn't find many wingers who are too.

I agree - we´ve discussed one other player who has been considered, but we agreed that after that 'winger from the other side' a lot of strikers seem to be at the same level (plus/minus) and we don´t see a big downgrade here.

You won't hear me criticize this pick. Rothen brings a LOT offensively, and is a former left back, so he's good defensively. As I said, he's been bothered by an awful lot of injuries, but otherwise, he'd be a first rounder.
Definately a solid pick at this point.
There are a few strikers playing in the south that are available. All are national team strikers.
There are also two world class goalies still up for grabs. And a lot of quality midfielders.

There are also two world class goalies still up for grabs.

Where's Frolov when you need him

:D

You won't hear me criticize this pick. Rothen brings a LOT offensively, and is a former left back, so he's good defensively. As I said, he's been bothered by an awful lot of injuries, but otherwise, he'd be a first rounder.
Definately a solid pick at this point.
There are a few strikers playing in the south that are available. All are national team strikers.
There are also two world class goalies still up for grabs. And a lot of quality midfielders.

I don't see a lot of good strikers... all strikers playing in the south are either injury prone or inconsistent... For this season, the best strikers are in the north or west IMO. :)

I don't see a lot of good strikers... all strikers playing in the south are either injury prone or inconsistent... For this season, the best strikers are in the north or west IMO. :)
There are three big quality strikers playing on the same team.
One is often injured. One is a bit inconsistant. One is a bit old. Still all three are very good strikers.

Ok I see... well, it depends if this draft is on this season or careers... ;)
For THIS season, IMO they don't deserve the nod. Not enough games and/or injuries...

Ok I see... well, it depends if this draft is on this season or careers... ;)
For THIS season, IMO they don't deserve the nod. Not enough games and/or injuries...
Erh, what L1 have you watched the last three weeks? ;)

Erh, what L1 have you watched the last three weeks? ;)

Rennes-Sochaux... ;)
Very, very good game even with a disappointing Rennes team... a lot of skill and speed in this game... Better than a few inconsistant southern team... :D

That have strikers that are actually scoring these days...

Anyway, did you come out impressed by my boy Menez yesterday? He's amazing! :eek:

My next pick is midfielder Rio Mavuba of Bordeaux

My next pick is midfielder Benoit Pedretti of Lyon

Two good choices.
Three quality defensive midfielders there for Les Habs (Tiago, Pedretti, Mavuba).
O=s/Bakos are up.

Two good choices.

TBH, sort of surprised they were available.

BTW, seems like you're up early. I'm flattered you got up so early just to see my picks. :sarcasm:

I'm up so early because I'm at work! :eek:

I'm up so early because I'm at work! :eek:

Already? Geez. It must be 7AM there. I need to get to bed since I work in the AM tomorrow too. I don't know why they don't just let me work 10AM-2PM everyday.

It's 8AM.
I'm on the internet since 6AM :shakehead

The depth in midfield is pretty astonishing... nobody has even touched that one team in the North for instance...

Yep.
One of the guy on the team could have been a first rounder.

Actually, make that two guys on the team that could have been first rounder.
Midfield (especially DMs) is definately the best position in L1.

We would like to select: Fred - S - Lyon - Brazil

PK's up.

Flyhigh is up.

I select midfielder Alou Diarra from Lens.
Nice pick. A monster... and very good games for NT, a sure pick for the World Cup. :)

Nice pick. A monster... and very good games for NT, a sure pick for the World Cup. :)
I have a few players above him on my depth chart.
That said, he's still a valuable pick.

Not much depth at striker, but I'll take Pegguy Luyindula of Auxerre.

The Rage is up.

The Rage is up.

I'll pick Govou.

Finally.
GoM is up.

With my next two picks, I select F - Mamdou Diallo (Nantes) and M - Olivier Kapo (Monaco)

With my next two picks, I select F - Mamdou Diallo (Nantes) and M - Olivier Kapo (Monaco)
Wow, shocking picks IMO, especially Diallo. The Rage is up.

I pick Barthez.

FlyHigh gave me his pick :
Lyon captain, Brazilian D Claudio Caçapa

Two good picks.

PK is up.

PM`ed O=S since i´m in Bochum tomorrow at a Nada Surf show :)

I select from Auxerre, Danish international and LM Thomas Kahlenberg.
Great pick.

Yes good pick. Some very underrated players can still be picked very soon...
BTW, I'm counting 12 players from Lyon already drafted!

Yes, impressive Lyon roster.
That said, I see around ten players that should have been picked already.
And some big names as well as some lesser-known!

We select: Eric Abidal..

My, what a steal. One of the best LB in the world, and he can also play CB successfully.
The only drawback is that he is injury prone.

Les Habs is up in both drafts. He has 4 picks to make.

I'll go with John Utaka of Rennes for my next pick.

For my next pick I'll go with Pierre-Alain Frau of Lens (or should I say Lyon)

Utaka is a very nice pick IMO, Frau a more arguable one.
Anyway, O=S/Bakos, you're up.

We select: Rio Mavuba - DM - Bordeaux

We select: Rio Mavuba - DM - Bordeaux
Check the 1st page, he's already picked by Les Habs #18 overall. :)

Yep, please change your pick.

Check the 1st page, he's already picked by Les Habs #18 overall. :)

Ouch..

Never seen him..

In which case we turn to a defender: Taye Taiwo - Olympique de Marseille

Reach here IMO.
There are some much better LB available.
First pick by your team that I really don't like.

Anyway, PK's up.
Come on guy, we're at the halfway point. Let's get this draft over with, and move on to another league.

Reach here IMO.
There are some much better LB available.
First pick by your team that I really don't like.

Blame Bakos!!!

I do like his feistyness though..

Blame Bakos!!!

I do like his feistyness though..

Haha, yeah Taiwo was 'my' guy :)

Has been impressive every time he´s been at Strassbourg or Metz :)

Meriem is a good choice here. Some guys are still falling further than I thought, but this is a solid pick. Inconsistant but a very talented player at a thin position (natural 10).

Flyhigh is up. Please Beli make his pick off his list.

FlyHigh select Olivier Monterrubio from Rennes...

I can't believe he's falling until this pick!
He should have been selected in the 2nd round!!
That's a major steal.

As for Mavuba, his upside is huge but for this season, I have several better midfielders still unpicked. But still, PK midfield is very interesting. :)

Hehe, a lot of teams have to work on their defense.
It seems a lot of teams went for the midfielders, but strangely enough, some big time midfielders have not been picked.
A big name playing on a big known team (and who plays and often starts for a big national team), an international player (from Africa) playing in a northern team, another bright young player that has loads of talent playing on the same team from the North, two very solid south american defensive midfielders playing in a team from the South, an international playing in a team from the west (also from Africa, well not exactly, but he chose an african nationality).

As for your midfield PK, you stole a lot of AM from the other teams, as you probably have three of the 5 most talented AM. That said, you'll have find the perfect striker to play with these guys, and you have to wonder how these three guys will be able to play with only one ball... :D

FlyHigh select Olivier Monterrubio from Rennes...

I can't believe he's falling until this pick!
He should have been selected in the 2nd round!!
That's a major steal.

Major steal indeed. But the guy has zero cap, and is simply not well know internationally.
He's probably the best LW in L1 (on par with Rothen and his injuries) if you consider Ribéry as an all around midfielder.

The Rage is up and will have plenty of choice to pick a defenseman. :D

I had exactly the same list Evilo, and I'll add 2 teamates of this Aafrican from the storied team... ;)

As for defensemen, I'm thinking about 2 players in 2 different teams in northern France... and 2 or 3 in some wine regions... :)

Major steal indeed. But the guy has zero cap, and is simply not well know internationally.
He's probably the best LW in L1 (on par with Rothen and his injuries) if you consider Ribéry as an all around midfielder.

Yes, I'll never understand why he was never selected for NT. :(
And I agree on your ranking. Monterrubio is probably the more consistent player of L1 since 4-5 years... 10 goals, 10 assists per year.

I'll take Hilton from Lens.

I had exactly the same list Evilo, and I'll add 2 teamates of this Aafrican from the storied team... ;)

As for defensemen, I'm thinking about 2 players in 2 different teams in northern France... and 2 or 3 in some wine regions... :)
I have a list consisting of :
RB :
- some guy in the south of France. He's african.
- some guy playing in the east near the Alpes.
- another guy in the south of France, but on another team. He's from across the ocean.
- a guy from the wine region

LB :
- a guy in the north of France, who chose another nationality.
- a guy from a big name team in a very big french city.
- a guy from a western team.

CB :
- a guy from a northern team
- a guy from a team in the wine region
- two guys from a sourthern team
- two guys from another southern team
- a guy playing in the west that has just arrived on his team
- a guy playing in the "rose" city.
- a guy near the Alpes, who's a sub on his team, but that would start on any other team.
- a young guy playing in the center of France.


Good luck with your maps boys... :D

I'll take Hilton from Lens.
Great pick!
I'm sure plenty of you guys don't know him, but he's one of the most dominant player at CB in France.

GoM is up in both drafts.

Weird that Lens had his first draftee, and that some teams that are playing in the top 5 in France don't have a single player drafted yet... :eek:

I have a list consisting of :
RB :
- some guy in the south of France. He's african.
- some guy playing in the east near the Alpes.
- another guy in the south of France, but on another team. He's from across the ocean.
- a guy from the wine region

LB :
- a guy in the north of France, who chose another nationality.
- a guy from a big name team in a very big french city.
- a guy from a western team.

CB :
- a guy from a northern team
- a guy from a team in the wine region
- two guys from a sourthern team
- two guys from another southern team
- a guy playing in the west that has just arrived on his team
- a guy playing in the "rose" city.
- a guy near the Alpes, who's a sub on his team, but that would start on any other team.
- a young guy playing in the center of France.


Good luck with your maps boys... :D

Nearly the same list with 2-3 players on the bubble.
BTW, I had 2 wine regions at least... :D

I have a list consisting of :
RB :
- some guy in the south of France. He's african.
- some guy playing in the east near the Alpes.
- another guy in the south of France, but on another team. He's from across the ocean.
- a guy from the wine region

LB :
- a guy in the north of France, who chose another nationality.
- a guy from a big name team in a very big french city.
- a guy from a western team.

CB :
- a guy from a northern team
- a guy from a team in the wine region
- two guys from a sourthern team
- two guys from another southern team
- a guy playing in the west that has just arrived on his team
- a guy playing in the "rose" city.
- a guy near the Alpes, who's a sub on his team, but that would start on any other team.
- a young guy playing in the center of France.


Good luck with your maps boys... :D

:shakehead

As for Mavuba, his upside is huge but for this season, I have several better midfielders still unpicked. But still, PK midfield is very interesting. :)

Yet according to L'Equipe he's the second rated player on the second rated team this season.

:shakehead
1- I don't think it's obvious.
2- some guys need help apparently.
3- my preferences don't mean anything to the other judges, nor to the GMs.

4-it's just a game and a way to discover another leagues. :)

Yet according to L'Equipe he's the second rated player on the second rated team this season.
Mavuba is definately not a bad choice. Outside the top 6 players, Mavuba and a few others were interchangable.
Still I agree with Beli that two other midfielders at Mavuba's level are available, two playing on the same team BTW, but for some reason, GMs have forgotten about them and about their team. It's not a knock on Mavuba, but rather some choices from some GMS that are questionnable.

BTW, one of these two was selected by L'Equipe as best pure defensive midfielder over the course of last season.

1 It's obvious enough in certain instances.
2 I'm one of those guys to an extent.
3 You underestimate yourself.
4 Agreed and it should be fun, but it's a bit difficult to discover anything on your own when you've got the answers right in front of you. Besides, the comments should come after we're all done.

I think you drafted pretty well so far.
I don't like the Frau pick, but other than that, I like your midfield, and you've drafted superman himself, Frank Ribéry!
Once again tonight, he's been incredible, as OM beat Nancy 6-0.

Really I think defensemen are very low key in France, and not well known. When you think that besides the obvious, the first defenseman taken was Taiwo (I BLAME BAKOS! :D ), who really should have been a last round pick, I thought some help was needed.
You don't need it? Skip my post, don't try to find out.
You are not sure your guy is good enough? Check if he appears on my list.
Really the point of my post was to help the guys that was unsure, either of the quality of the guy they had in mind or who really didn't know where to start.

Taiwo... he's young and needs to learn when he can smash the ball and when he have to pass. He's not bad, has a huge shot but need to learn when he can use it.

At LB there are a few guys I would select before him... Taiwo, like a RB from a southern team still unpicked, is similar to Roberto Carlos. brings offensively, not a security defensively. Taiwo is a little better than the 2 others though. :)

I think you drafted pretty well so far.
I don't like the Frau pick, but other than that, I like your midfield, and you've drafted superman himself, Frank Ribéry!
Once again tonight, he's been incredible, as OM beat Nancy 6-0.

Really I think defensemen are very low key in France, and not well known. When you think that besides the obvious, the first defenseman taken was Taiwo (I BLAME BAKOS! :D ), who really should have been a last round pick, I thought some help was needed.
You don't need it? Skip my post, don't try to find out.
You are not sure your guy is good enough? Check if he appears on my list.
Really the point of my post was to help the guys that was unsure, either of the quality of the guy they had in mind or who really didn't know where to start.

I chose Frau for a particular reason, though I really had to think about it and I wasn't sure. Ribery I don't necessarily like personally (not because he's bad, he's just one of those guys I don't necessarily love), but I felt he was the right pick at that time and regardless he has been amazing this season (as well as in the past, even in other leagues).

I agree that the defensemen aren't known. It's very tough. I am on your page in terms of available picks for two of the positions. The other position is more difficult and one of my guys was just taken.

Yeah, I know what you're doing. My point is that this sort of thing would be better served to be done at the end of the draft is all.

Once again tonight, he's been incredible, as OM beat Nancy 6-0.

Yeah, sounds like he was involved in a few of the goals. I'll get to see Lyon-PSG tomorrow.

Well, to further increase my obvious non-knowledge....I select

Lamine Diatta (OL) and Bruno Cheyrou (Bourdeaux)

Well, to further increase my obvious non-knowledge....I select

Lamine Diatta (OL) and Bruno Cheyrou (Bourdeaux)

:help:

:help:

Meh, I'm going on very little stats, the fact that I've seen none of them play, so basically name recognition..that, and I didn't prepare :sarcasm:

FlyHigh select Olivier Monterrubio from Rennes...

That's a major steal.


Told ya O=S :)
Prettz good guy - really impressed me every time i saw him :)

A tie now with Taiwo-Monterrubio ;) Just kidding :D

Meh, I'm going on very little stats, the fact that I've seen none of them play, so basically name recognition..that, and I didn't prepare :sarcasm:
Not bad players but there are a lot of better one left. :)
I don't know if you followed Evilo notes but you didn't select his choices... ;)
Diatta is a depth player in Lyon (it means potential starter in a lot of teams) but didn't play a lot this season with the Africa Cup and the rising of a teamate.
Cheyrou is making a good season as a DM-OM with Bordeaux but at his spot you could have find better in some other teams (or even with one of his teamate). :)

I'll take Armand from PSG.

Thanks a lot to Belizarius for picking for me and a couple of really excellent picks if I may say so.

I know I'm not really an authority on L1 here, but I really like the way that the team is shaping up.

Thanks a lot to Belizarius for picking for me and a couple of really excellent picks if I may say so.

I know I'm not really an authority on L1 here, but I really like the way that the team is shaping up.

Welcome back dude. BTW, you're pick is up again.

Taiwo... he's young and needs to learn when he can smash the ball and when he have to pass. He's not bad, has a huge shot but need to learn when he can use it.

At LB there are a few guys I would select before him... Taiwo, like a RB from a southern team still unpicked, is similar to Roberto Carlos. brings offensively, not a security defensively. Taiwo is a little better than the 2 others though. :)
I highly disagree. I think your guy from the south is better, much better than Taiwo. Simply because offensively, he can do a lot of things. He's technically very gifted. Defensively, they're both under average.

I chose Frau for a particular reason, though I really had to think about it and I wasn't sure. Ribery I don't necessarily like personally (not because he's bad, he's just one of those guys I don't necessarily love), but I felt he was the right pick at that time and regardless he has been amazing this season (as well as in the past, even in other leagues).

I'm guessing you took Frau to play RW?

Well, to further increase my obvious non-knowledge....I select

Lamine Diatta (OL) and Bruno Cheyrou (Bourdeaux)
Diatta is not a very good choice at this point. Not a bad choice, but I'd take three of four CB before him. Diatta has the advantage of playing RB as well though, so it could be considered a good pick.

Cheyrou on the other hand I think is a good pick if you play him as DM.
Clearly the guy has lost a step as AM, however, this season he's played DM and he's been fantastic, using his above average strengh to his advantage. Of course, his shot is still very dangerous, and he can score some free kicks.

I'd say he's a good pick, even though there were better pure DMs.

Really the main pick I don't like is Diallo, but other than that, you're OK so far.

I'll take Armand from PSG.
Great pick!
This guy should be a regular (if not starter) on the national team.

Cheyrou is making a good season as a DM-OM with Bordeaux but at his spot you could have find better in some other teams (or even with one of his teamate). :)
Or even much closer to him than his teammate... :D

Or even much closer to him than his teammate... :D

Oh yes... very close... and much better at this point and this spot...!!! :D

Sorry guys, didn't realize I was up again.

Anyways, I know the draft is deep in DM, but I'm shocked that Didier Zokora of Saint-Etienne has fallen this far. He was a target for Arsenal in January and Manchester United are rumored to be chasing him for 10m pounds this summer I believe.

EDIT: Sorry if I wasn't clear, but yes, Zokora is my pick.

Sorry guys, didn't realize I was up again.

Anyways, I know the draft is deep in DM, but I'm shocked that Didier Zokora of Saint-Etienne has fallen this far. He was a target for Arsenal in January and Manchester United are rumored to be chasing him for 10m pounds this summer I believe.

EDIT: Sorry if I wasn't clear, but yes, Zokora is my pick.
I have about 10 DMs at Zokora's level or better, most of them still available.
He's a good pick, but I don't see him as a steal, given the depth at his position.
Pk's up in both drafts.

Please guys, remember to PM the guy after you once you've picked. This way, Flyhigh wouldn't have missed his pick for a few hours.

Please guys, remember to PM the guy after you once you've picked. This way, Flyhigh wouldn't have missed his pick for a few hours.

It's tittle trouble checking this thread every now and then..

Yes but you and I spend a lot of time on these boards.

It's more obvious to get a mail saying you get a PM.

I have about 10 DMs at Zokora's level or better, most of them still available.
He's a good pick, but I don't see him as a steal, given the depth at his position.
Pk's up in both drafts.

Please guys, remember to PM the guy after you once you've picked. This way, Flyhigh wouldn't have missed his pick for a few hours.

I disagree with you here. First of all, Zokora doesn't exactly play on a strong team. I think that with a team like Manu, he will really stand out. Not that the players are similar, but how notable do you think Makalele would be on a team like Saint Etienne? Also, I doubt that most of the players you're thinking about have had the international success that Zokora has had. He's become a real rock for the Ivory Coast and has formed a formidable partnership with Yaya Toure.

I find it a very good pick... There's a few players left at his level but not by much...
I like this one and I think some DM already picked went too early (i.e. Pedretti for example).

the international success that Zokora has had. He's become a real rock for the Ivory Coast and has formed a formidable partnership with Yaya Toure.
Again, Zokora is a good player, no doubt. But I have other guys that are simply better or at least at his level.
Among them there are several international. From Africa, South America, southern Europe, etc...

You're talking about Ivory Coast (and they have one other DM not picked yet), well there's another african power nation that has two formidable DMs, both of them play in L1, and none of them have been picked yet. I think both are at least as good and probably better than Zokora.

O=S/Bakos are up.

It's been 24 hours, Les Habs can make one pick.

We´re picking

Sebastien Squillaci

Les Habs is up twice then.

My next pick will be Gaël Givet of Monaco

He's versatile and can crack the skulls of a few of you guys' forwards :madfire:

My next pick will be Erik Edman of Rennes

It was down to him and one other player at that position, but I felt that Edman was more well rounded.

Edman is a surprising pick IMO. Givet is a very good choice though.

I'm not too fond on the Edman pick. He's an OK player, but there are better players at LB.
Givet is a nice pick.
O=S/Bakos are up.

PM'ed O=S - will make mour pick in 3 hours if i don´t get any news until then (a bit ill) :)

O=Bakos select:

Jean Makoun (OSC Lille)

O=Bakos select:

Jean Makoun (OSC Lille)

Finally! Surprising to see him fall until this moment. :)

O=Bakos select:

Jean Makoun (OSC Lille)
Steal of the draft so far.

PK's up.

Steal of the draft so far.

Taiwo + Makoun = :innocent: :D

Steal of the draft so far.

There should be another huge steal coming up!

There should be another huge steal coming up!I have been wondering if i missed someone leaving league1 recently. :rolleyes:

There should be another huge steal coming up!
There are some steals left, absolutely.
But I don't think it reaches Makoun proportion.

There should be another huge steal coming up!
BTW, which position are you talking about?
Because I have steals in just about every line, and I don't see one being a biggest steal than the other.
So I'm not sure who you're talking about.

I have been wondering if i missed someone leaving league1 recently. :rolleyes:
Do you have a certain french midfielder in mind?

BTW, which position are you talking about?


Midfield, very close to Makoun ;)

Midfield, very close to Makoun ;)
Oh then I agree it's a steal.
But I think Helice has in mind (has had for a while now) a guy that is french, plays on a big name team, plays for the national team, and can play all around the pitch.
It's quite weird to see that guy unpicked yet, but I think he's had a sub-par season, and he should do more with the talent he has.

So all in all, I like your guy better (actually I like him better than half the players picked already).

I'm not sure how much this sense this pick makes, but I don't know defenders of L1 too well, so I'll take one that has impressed me, RB Francois Clerc.

I now have 3 of the 4 nominees for Young Player of the Year, but not the prize one (Ribery).

I'll pick Frei.

I'll pick Frei.

I can't believe that I forgot him, I bet that's one of the steals.

Frei is a huge steal, but I expected him to fly under the radar with the injury season he's having.
He's arguably the second best striker in L1.

Clerc is a good pick. Sure we've only seen 6 months of him, but he hasn't had a single bad game where his inexperience would have shown.

GoM is up.

Frei is a huge steal, but I expected him to fly under the radar with the injury season he's having.
He's arguably the second best striker in L1.

Great goalscoring record for a few years now. I didn't choose him for tactical reasons, but had been considering him. Perhaps had other picks gone my way I would have brought him in, but oh well...

Great goalscoring record for a few years now. I didn't choose him for tactical reasons, but had been considering him. Perhaps had other picks gone my way I would have brought him in, but oh well...

Did consider him too, but he´s been injured and the record wasn´t impressing this year and since it`s about how people are doing now i wrote him off. Otherwise he would be off the board already IMO.

Did consider him too, but he´s been injured and the record wasn´t impressing this year and since it`s about how people are doing now i wrote him off. Otherwise he would be off the board already IMO.
I think judges will consider how good they have played over the last few years, not just this year.
Frei has been a great scorer two years in a row, and has been bothered by injuries this season.
Otherwise, Rothen should not have been drafted at all.

I think judges will consider how good they have played over the last few years, not just this year.
Frei has been a great scorer two years in a row, and has been bothered by injuries this season.
Otherwise, Rothen should not have been drafted at all.

Hmm - is Rothen struggling that much ? He´s not been in the line-up against Racing Straßbourg, so i couldn´t watch him, but from those highlight videos on TV and stats wise i didn´t saw any difference to the previous years, but highlight vids are still highlight vids.
The other way round with Frei, who´s not been that 'hot' like in the previous years (according to the same sources i use for all players, but they might not be enough).

The thing is the injury is not the same.
Rothen's ankle is injured. He either can or can't play. When he can play, he's been good, not as good as two years ago, but good.

Frei's injury is a "plubalgie", I have no translation for that. Basically, you can play with it, but you're never 100% and it bothers you during the sprints and jumps.
So Frei never played at 100% this season, and he finally accepted the surgery, which sided him for the rest of the season (he may come back late).
So yes, Frei has been average when he's played, but that was directly related to his injury.

Clerc is a good pick as a RB. I had 2 others players before him at his spot (1 African, 1 French) but his play this year is simply amazing. He managed to outplayed Reveillere and it's a huge performance. Very promising.

Frei is a interesting pick. For this season, not the better pick for striker, but for his career, pretty good choice. I had only 1 very underrated skilled forward (French) who is as good finisher as passer before him.

BTW I'm going to post a suggestion for the judges in the other thread...

The Rage is up, the 24 hours have passed.

Most name-recognition-driven picks ever...doubt this'll end well

MF Nicolas Savinaud (Nantes)
MF Denilson (Bourdeux)

wow, there's a lot of under-rated players who should have been picked before them.

Savinaud is a versatile player who can play defense or midfield. Very experienced player, useful but not flashy.

Denilson had a slow start but his game is better and better recently. He even can play a little defensively now... :P

I pick Beye.

Beye is a huge steal. He's the third best defenseman in L1 behind Cris and Yepes, and can play both CB or RB.

Flyhigh is up.

hold on, indecision again

Don't know too much about him, but he played a bit for Lyon last year I think and I have no knowledge of L1 LB's, so I'll take Jeremy Berthold.

I select Mickael Landreau.

:handclap:

I pick Beye.

Would´ve pulled pretty hard for him to our next pick... :rant: ;)

I pick Beye.

Damn. Was my next pick.

Berthod is a reach here IMO. He's a good young defenseman, but it seems RB and LB are the less known positions. There are guys better than him.

Landreau is obviously a good pick.

2 more rounds to go, and we're done.

Wow finally Beye... Marseille's MVP last season and still the best RB in L1...
That's the kind of things proving L1 isn't wel known :)
But I think I will make the same kind of choices in the other leagues... :)

Landreau is obvisously a very good choice.

Berthod wouldn't be my 1st choice as a LB, he's good and promising but some other guys are better at this point. I think of a western guy (a time targetted by Lyon), a northern guy, for example.

I think everybody can wait until the last round for goalkeepers. Now every GK who isn't picked yet has nearly the same level and you have probably 10-12 GK who would be starters in a lot of national teams... but France already has the best 2 so there's no room for them...

We´re selecting:

Souleymane Diawara (FC Sochaux)

:huh:
The 4th best central defenseman is still available.

Les Habs is up twice.

For my next pick I will select PSG's David Rozehnal

For my next pick I will take Lens' Benoit Assou-Ekotto

Rozhenal is a bit early, or at least there are a couple of guys that can be considered better.
However, Assou-Ekotto is a steal. He's had an average end of the season, but he was spectacular in the first 6 months.