The "twins"

mmbt
03-25-2006, 11:37 AM
After that 4 point night, Getzlaf is now averaging 1 ppg in March ... 12 points in 12 games.

Perry only has 10 goals on the season ... but 9 in the last 20 games.

Kevin Forbes
03-25-2006, 12:07 PM
honestly, I thought this thread was going to be about Hedstrom and Pahlsson....

braincramp
03-25-2006, 01:07 PM
We are indeed rich.

Pepper
03-25-2006, 01:17 PM
Whatever happens this season, it's great to let Getz and Perry to get their feet wet and get experience for next year.

It probably helps their confidence knowing that come next training camp they are not on the bubble so-to-speak and can keep building the confidence and chemistry.

The question is, who will be the 3rd stooge on that line. Friesen? Don't think so. Lupul? Only if he decides to get some consistancy. UFA/trade player? Who knows.

Fact is that Kunitz is not the ideal player to have on your top2 lines and I'm still somewhat sceptical about Penner.

Jerky Leclerc
03-25-2006, 01:56 PM
honestly, I thought this thread was going to be about Hedstrom and Pahlsson....

Funny, I thought mmbt was going to talk about the "twins." Too bad he was talking about hockey.

: :naughty:

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-25-2006, 02:45 PM
Whatever happens this season, it's great to let Getz and Perry to get their feet wet and get experience for next year.

It probably helps their confidence knowing that come next training camp they are not on the bubble so-to-speak and can keep building the confidence and chemistry.

The question is, who will be the 3rd stooge on that line. Friesen? Don't think so. Lupul? Only if he decides to get some consistancy. UFA/trade player? Who knows.

Fact is that Kunitz is not the ideal player to have on your top2 lines and I'm still somewhat sceptical about Penner.
I'd really like to see us sign a top 6 LW UFA this summer, and let Kunitz/Friesen/Nieds/Marchant/Lupul/Pahlsson/Hedstrom duke it out for 3rd line duty.

Pepper
03-25-2006, 02:50 PM
I'd really like to see us sign a top 6 LW UFA this summer, and let Kunitz/Friesen/Nieds/Marchant/Lupul/Pahlsson/Hedstrom duke it out for 3rd line duty.

Looking at that list it's safe to say that atleast 2 of those players will have a new address next october.

Kevin Forbes
03-25-2006, 02:52 PM
If they sign a top six left winger, I can't see them signing Friesen back as well.

Randall Graves*
03-25-2006, 03:02 PM
If they sign a top six left winger, I can't see them signing Friesen back as well.
The question becomes do you need one.

Penner has to have a spot next year, so where does he play?

My guess is we go for a guy who will take a short contract if the ducks do indeed sign a top six.

Jerky Leclerc
03-26-2006, 09:04 AM
The question becomes do you need one.

Penner has to have a spot next year, so where does he play?

My guess is we go for a guy who will take a short contract if the ducks do indeed sign a top six.

Penner should be on the second line with Lupul but they'll need a playmaking center like Gomez or Comrie. Friesen should be gone unless he shows up for the playoffs. Right now, I don't see us spending 2 million bucks for a guy that contributes neither offensive nor defense. I like the lines now and i doubt we see many changes for next year.

Kunitz McDonald Selanne
Penner ? Lupul
Fedoruk Getzlaf Perry
RNied GOD Hedstrom

Pepper
03-26-2006, 09:32 AM
Moen and Konopka are much better choices for the 4th line winger spot than Hedström.

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 02:01 PM
Penner should be on the second line with Lupul but they'll need a playmaking center like Gomez or Comrie. Friesen should be gone unless he shows up for the playoffs. Right now, I don't see us spending 2 million bucks for a guy that contributes neither offensive nor defense. I like the lines now and i doubt we see many changes for next year.

Kunitz McDonald Selanne
Penner ? Lupul
Fedoruk Getzlaf Perry
RNied GOD Hedstrom

I seriously doubt Kunitz is on the top line next year. Also, where is Marchant? Do you think someone is going to take that salary off our hands? I don't. Here's next years lines:

Penner-McDonald-Selanne
Lupul-Getzlaf-Perry
Chistov/Marchant/Kunitz/Hedstrom/R.Nieds/Friesen
Fedoruk-Pahlsson-Konopka/Moen

There's so many possibilities for the last 2 lines next year, especially the 3rd line. I think Hedstrom goes back to sweeden. I don't think Burke will give chistov the time of day so he's gone. No way is Friesen resigned. So here's your resulting lines..

Penner-McDonald-Selanne
Lupul-Getzlaf-Perry
R.Nieds-Marchant-Kunitz
Fedoruk-Pahlsson-Konopka/Moen

If a top winger is added, then obviously everything changes. But I personally like what I see. Also, I'd hope Burke would give chistov a chance. I'd like to see a 3rd line of chistov-Marchant-R.Nieds/Kunitz

sammyp
03-26-2006, 02:07 PM
Fedoruk-Pahlsson-Konopka

Pahlsson wouldn't serve a purpose on a line with Konopka and Fedoruk. Sammi is a shutdown center in this league, and that line would get less than 10 minutes a game.

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 02:24 PM
Pahlsson wouldn't serve a purpose on a line with Konopka and Fedoruk. Sammi is a shutdown center in this league, and that line would get less than 10 minutes a game.

I'd personally rather see 3 lines that can score, and give Pahlsson PK time.

sammyp
03-26-2006, 02:32 PM
I'd personally rather see 3 lines that can score, and give Pahlsson PK time.

OK. I just think that that would be a waste of Sammi's ability to shutdown the opposition's #1 line. With your lines, which one would matchup with the #1 line?

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 02:56 PM
OK. I just think that that would be a waste of Sammi's ability to shutdown the opposition's #1 line. With your lines, which one would matchup with the #1 line?

hmm.. I dunno. I guess I would suggest putting him on a line with 2 of either Kunitz, Marchant, or R. Nieds if they wanted a shutdown line. So I guess the lines would result in something like this.

Penner-McDonald-Selanne
Lupul-Getzlaf-Perry
R.Nieds-Pahlsson-Marchant
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz/Moen

A lot depends on who's on the roster next year. Personally I think chistov and Hedstrom are gone, but if they stay it will be really interesting.

thoughts?

sammyp
03-26-2006, 03:14 PM
hmm.. I dunno. I guess I would suggest putting him on a line with 2 of either Kunitz, Marchant, or R. Nieds if they wanted a shutdown line. So I guess the lines would result in something like this.

Penner-McDonald-Selanne
Lupul-Getzlaf-Perry
R.Nieds-Pahlsson-Marchant
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz/Moen

A lot depends on who's on the roster next year. Personally I think chistov and Hedstrom are gone, but if they stay it will be really interesting.

thoughts?

Yeah, I like that much better. When you put Pahlsson with Nieds and Marchant, you've created a great shutdown line. I don't really see how Burke's going to unload Marchant, but if we have to keep him, we may as well use him on a line like that.

If I were Burke, I'd look into packaging Marchant with someone like Chistov to get another GM interested. I don't know if that'd work too well though, so let's just assume that we have to hang on to Marchant until his contract expires.

I've always been for the PPG line, it's not a good fit in the NHL yet because they're all rookies, but it could work next year. So I'd switch Lupul with Penner, if Joffrey can learn to play the left side.

Lupul-McDonald-Selanne
Penner-Getzlaf-Perry
Niedermayer-Pahlsson-Marchant
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz/Moen

I'd definitely still be open to adding a top six left winger, but that's not my biggest concern. I'd be happy with adding Jovo to bolster our definsive corps:

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Jovanovski-Vishnevski
Salei-DiPenta
O'Donnell

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 03:43 PM
Yeah, I like that much better. When you put Pahlsson with Nieds and Marchant, you've created a great shutdown line. I don't really see how Burke's going to unload Marchant, but if we have to keep him, we may as well use him on a line like that.

If I were Burke, I'd look into packaging Marchant with someone like Chistov to get another GM interested. I don't know if that'd work too well though, so let's just assume that we have to hang on to Marchant until his contract expires.

I've always been for the PPG line, it's not a good fit in the NHL yet because they're all rookies, but it could work next year. So I'd switch Lupul with Penner, if Joffrey can learn to play the left side.

Lupul-McDonald-Selanne
Penner-Getzlaf-Perry
Niedermayer-Pahlsson-Marchant
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz/Moen

I'd definitely still be open to adding a top six left winger, but that's not my biggest concern. I'd be happy with adding Jovo to bolster our definsive corps:

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Jovanovski-Vishnevski
Salei-DiPenta
O'Donnell

I was thinking of switching Lupul and Penner as well, but what concerns me is that no one will be able to create room for McDonald and Selanne. That's why I put Penner on the top line. You can argue that no one would create room for Getzlaf and Perry, however I think getzlaf would be able to do ok without a bigger body on the line, since he's got good size himself. Where as McDonald and Selanne aren't very big and would have more trouble.

While I would prefer Lupul to be on the second with Getzlaf and Perry, I wouldn't mind starting him off with McDonald and Selanne. However, the first second that they start getting pushed around I say switch him with Penner.

Also I don't think Salei will be ever put on the last D pairing, because he's played well with more ice time. However, I agree with you, and I think Vish should be on the 2nd pairing. Unfortunately, I don't see him there. So, if Jovo is aquired I think this will be our D pairings:

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Jovo-Salei
O'Donnell-Vish
Dipenta
(which I would be very happy with :handclap: )

Kevin Forbes
03-26-2006, 03:51 PM
Remember, Dipenta is a UFA at seasons end.
Also Smid could be moving up...

Ducksforcup
03-26-2006, 03:53 PM
It will be hard to let DiPenta go. He is so reliable and he is playing so well.

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 03:58 PM
Remember, Dipenta is a UFA at seasons end.
Also Smid could be moving up...

Good point Forbesy. I also remember Burke saying he will definitely be in Anaheim next year. So with this do you guys seeing us pick up someone like Jovo? Maybe Salei is gone this offseason and Jovo is brought in.

Something like..

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Jovo-Smid
O'Donnell-Vish

(when is O'Donnell's contract up? I haven't been to impressed with him lately.)

Kevin Forbes
03-26-2006, 03:58 PM
O'Donnell has another year, I do believe

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-26-2006, 04:32 PM
Hey, is Naslund a pending UFA? Anyone know?

Jerky Leclerc
03-26-2006, 04:48 PM
It will be hard to let DiPenta go. He is so reliable and he is playing so well.

I doubt DiPenta wants to go anywhere else. He was brought in by Carlyle and will stay with his coach.

Nazlund signed this last offseason I believe so he probably has a few seasons to go. Sorry, no Swede for us.

Randall Graves*
03-26-2006, 05:10 PM
Should the ducks sign a forward to play with Getzlaf and Perry and just move Lupul up with McDonald and Selanne? they are big guys they can take care of themselves.

adding a Samsonov type to that line would be a very nice compliment..

Randall Graves*
03-26-2006, 05:13 PM
Hey, is Naslund a pending UFA? Anyone know?
I'm not sure if this is rhetorical but..

he signed a 3 year deal last summer with the Canucks.

I think the ducks may eat O'donnells contract and buy him out or waive him.

Smid will be here, have to sign Salei, DiPenta has earned a spot..

sammyp
03-26-2006, 05:31 PM
Should the ducks sign a forward to play with Getzlaf and Perry and just move Lupul up with McDonald and Selanne? they are big guys they can take care of themselves.

adding a Samsonov type to that line would be a very nice compliment..

Samsonov wouldn't work considering he is what the Ducks have to much of, a RW.

McDonald19
03-26-2006, 08:56 PM
I think the ducks may eat O'donnells contract and buy him out or waive him.



I doubt it. Only one more year on the contract. Burke seems to like him. He is physical and sticks up for his teammates, he already stepped in for Salei against Hordichuk once. Yeah he has the mobility of a pylon but I could definetly see him in the 6th d-man role all next season with the occasional healthy scratch.

McDonald19
03-26-2006, 08:59 PM
Samsonov wouldn't work considering he is what the Ducks have to much of, a RW.

Actually he is a right handed shot who plays left wing like our comparable enigma Stan Chistov.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1062&hubname=nhl-oilers

Randall Graves*
03-26-2006, 09:05 PM
I doubt it. Only one more year on the contract. Burke seems to like him. He is physical and sticks up for his teammates, he already stepped in for Salei against Hordichuk once. Yeah he has the mobility of a pylon but I could definetly see him in the 6th d-man role all next season with the occasional healthy scratch.
I like some of the things he does. When he sticks to making simple passes with the puck he is fine. but yesterday he made a bad pass which resulted in a goal. I like how he battles and clears the net. The team really has been doing a good job of clearing the rebounds lately.

sammyp
03-26-2006, 09:07 PM
I doubt it. Only one more year on the contract. Burke seems to like him. He is physical and sticks up for his teammates, he already stepped in for Salei against Hordichuk once. Yeah he has the mobility of a pylon but I could definetly see him in the 6th d-man role all next season with the occasional healthy scratch.

I hope he doesn't have a spot starting. We should already have these d-men going into the offseason:

Niedermayer
Beauchemin
Salei
Vishnevski
O'Donnell

Our FA d-men are:

Salei
DiPenta

Rookies looking for a spot:

Smid
O'Brien
Rome

Plus, I'd look for Burke to add someone like Redden or Jovo.

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Vishnevski-Jovanovski/UFA
Salei-Smid/DiPenta/O'Donnell

Frankly, I prefer Smid AND DiPenta over O'Donnell.

sammyp
03-26-2006, 09:09 PM
Actually he is a right handed shot who plays left wing like our comparable enigma Stan Chistov.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=1062&hubname=nhl-oilers

Oh, you're right. Now that I think about it, he was playing the left wing with Thornton and Murray.

McDonald19
03-26-2006, 09:17 PM
I'm going to predict this...

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Salei-O'Donnell
Vish-Smid
DiPenta

Marshall let go..DiPenta and Salei re-signed...Burke stays out of the bidding wars for Jovo, Chara, Redden...Smid makes the team and they start him on the third pair...O'Brien first call up from Portland if anyone is injured...DiPenta in the 7th d-man healthy scratch role most of the time.

Duckstudd269
03-26-2006, 09:33 PM
I'm going to predict this...

Niedermayer-Beauchemin
Salei-O'Donnell
Vish-Smid
DiPenta

Marshall let go..DiPenta and Salei re-signed...Burke stays out of the bidding wars for Jovo, Chara, Redden...Smid makes the team and they start him on the third pair...O'Brien first call up from Portland if anyone is injured...DiPenta in the 7th d-man healthy scratch role most of the time.

I'd say that's definitely a big possibility. Some might argue that we have cap room so we should go for Jovo. But I think it's safe to say that some of that cap room is going to be used for resigning Salei, Dipenta, and Selanne. Also, I think McDonald will see a pay raise. I'd like to see Smid on the 2nd pairing though.