3/19/06 Anaheim at Columbus

TODAY

at Columbus, 2 p.m. PST

Site — Nationwide Arena.

Radio — 1090.

Records — Ducks 32-21-12; Blue Jackets 26-38-3.

Record vs. Blue Jackets — 1-1-1.

Update — The Ducks have won only twice in nine games at Columbus since the Blue Jackets entered the league in 2000. In December, Marc Denis made 40 saves in a 1-0 shutout. "For some reason, we have a hard time [here]," Salei said. "It seems like when we always play here their goalie is unbelievable." Columbus' Sergei Fedorov is questionable because of back spasms.

...They represent the future of the Mighty Ducks, but Coach Randy Carlyle made it clear that the team needs more now from rookie forwards Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry.

The two have had their moments since their recall from the minor leagues in January, but none on this trip. Getzlaf and Perry each took just one shot in games against Detroit and Chicago and they were on the ice for the Blackhawks' lone goal Friday.

"They know where they're at," Carlyle said Saturday. "It's been verbalized very strongly…. They've got to be better."

Carlyle said he didn't mind their offensive production but thought they weren't playing enough "safe minutes" in the defensive end...

LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-duckrep19mar19,1,7653878.story?coll=la-headlines-sports)

looks like no TV for this one...

LA Times didn't mention TV and Mightyducks.com has it as a radio only game as well.

This is a must win game! LOL

I'll be listning to some of this game I think, it'll only be 10pm when it starts here.

Byrzgolov is in eh? Must be resting Giguere for the big stretch ahead...Hedstrom is healthy scratched in favor of Moen...

game ain't on 1090 sounds like college basketball.

More tidbits: Ducks have NHL's third best road record since Jan. 1st at 8-3-1...

Byrzgolov is in eh? Must be resting Giguere for the big stretch ahead...Hedstrom is healthy scratched in favor of Moen...
I don't like it, I prefere to use Giguere...we won't beat Dallas anyways.

WHERE'S THE GAME!

game ain't on 1090 sounds like college basketball.

go to the Ducks site.


On a side note the link at the Ducks site for radio coverage has you listening to the BJ announcers....

Vish just killed someone, and is Penner playing? I keep think that Im hearing his name...

go to the Ducks site.


On a side note the link at the Ducks site for radio coverage has you listening to the BJ announcers....
I'm getting the same form NHL.com. I was about to ask for an Anaheim feed, but I guess there isn't one.

i hate listening online..lags my cpu.

It looks like Moen is in for Hedstrom this afternoon. :shakehead

sweet, 1-0

Bouch?

We got a goal, that's a good thing :)

I have no idea why Hedstrom's out. Does anyone know why?

And now my radio feed has died. bugger. I was hopping to listed to the full game.

penalty to Marchant for hooking....

Another Ducks penalty. Damn.

eeesh, sounds like Columbus has had some great opportunities.

Nice kill by the Ducks. They managed to keep Nash covered for most of it.

eeesh, sounds like Columbus has had some great opportunities.

This is why I hate listening to the opponent's radio. A dump in pass from center ice sounds like a grade A scoring chance. If there is going to be any form of homerism, I want the play by play guy to be on our side. :)

3 penalties in the first 13 minutes...these guys better wake the hell up.

Columbus goal, Zherdev. Bah

holy **** I almost had a heartattack.

my ears, god damn these guys are gonna lose if they don't pick things up.

Columbus goal, Zherdev. Bah

If I didn't know better, the announcer made it sound like Columbus just won the Stanley Cup. Wow, that was incredibly loud. GOAAAALLLLL! lol

I can't believe it, CBS just scored AGAIN!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

EDIT:Yeah, the TV guys are getting really excited over goals.

This is terrible.

This announcer has been training with Brazilian soccer commentators, my gawd he's louder than the ****ing goal-horn.

outplayed badly.

5-3 for 7 seconds

Oh good, Anaheim will get another PP here. (5 on 3)

Hey buddy, Anaheim isn't in LA. Only in Morenoland.

another? Oh, good chance here to score.

Nothing on the two man advantage, CBS managed to kill both penalties. Not good one bit.

Lame

There were NO bright spots in that entire period.

These guys haven't showed up to play they're being dominated :shakehead

The guys need someone to light a fire under them. There's no urgency. Quite simply they can't play like this against Dallas, if they do we'll get crushed.

If I didn't know better, the announcer made it sound like Columbus just won the Stanley Cup. Wow, that was incredibly loud. GOAAAALLLLL! lol

George and Bill? Yeah, those guys are awsome.

Game is on Center Ice and I almost wish it wasn't. Getting owned by Columbus sucks. Don't know how stands now but shots were 14-2 at the 6 minute mark.

This announcer has been training with Brazilian soccer commentators, my gawd he's louder than the ****ing goal-horn.

Actually, I believe he also calls boxing.

The guys need someone to light a fire under them. There's no urgency. Quite simply they can't play like this against Dallas, if they do we'll get crushed.

They'll get crushed by Columbus the way they played the first.

Actually, I believe he also calls boxing.

Heh, that doesn't surprise me at all.

There were NO bright spots in that entire period.
:cry:

Heh, that doesn't surprise me at all.

I'm just tuning in now, becuase our TV announcers blow very hard. Hope you're treated to Rick Nash scoring, then you'll be treated to a VERY loud "count the cash, Rick Nash!'

Here's to a good second and third periods, and if necessary, OT :)

I'm just tuning in now, becuase our TV announcers blow very hard. Hope you're treated to Rick Nash scoring, then you'll be treated to a VERY loud "count the cash, Rick Nash!'

Here's to a good second and third periods, and if necessary, OT :)

Ditto. :)

This trend of awful first periods HAS GOT TO stop. We always pick it up the 2nd and 3rd periods, but the 1st... :cry:

Zherdev scores again. COME ON GUYS WAKE UP!!!!!!!

3-1. I don't believe we are losing to Columbus AGAIN!

Almost had a chance there, nice save by Denis.

Alright! Ducks Goal!

MOEN!

:biglaugh: Moen scored??? What the hell is going on down there?

ESPN says Pahlsson.

3-2. What was that? It sounds like a heartbeat.

3-3 now! They finally woke up!

Yes


The 2nd period always tends to be the Ducks best...Perry scores one.

ESPN changed to Moen, Neids with another assist.

Is Carlyle controlling these guys with an electric collar? We're finally getting some life. GO PERRY!

Lets keep talking negative!!

:biglaugh: Moen scored??? What the hell is going on down there?

ESPN says Pahlsson.

Was it? The announcers said Moen did, so I naturally assumed.

This team is doing awful. They should all be fired. :sarcasm:

I managed to not notice the second Duck goal, or even the columbus one. I really don't like this commentry.

Was it? The announcers said Moen did, so I naturally assumed.

It was indeed Moen. Banked it off the goalie's pads. We seem to get a lot of goals that way. :eek:

Looks like Carlyle pushed the right button with Moen so far...

NO MORE ODD MAN RUSHES YOU SUCKS!

Tyler Wright is in attendance. Man I feel bad for him... :(

Lets keep talking negative!!

LET'S SEE SOME SHOTS ON THE NET FOR A CHANGE!

:sarcasm:

Tyler Wright is in attendance. Man I feel bad for him... :(

Sitting with Burke ... guess there's no hard feelings.

Young Lean And Mean.

Fight Fight Fight! Go Fedoruk!

Fedoruks fighting...must be a blue moon.

Fight between Fridge and Jody Shelley. Fridge was throwing some big punches there.

who the hell is winning this fight?? It sounds like Ali vs Frazier!!!


DOWN GOES SHELLY DOWN GOES SHELLY

Predictions on AndyMac getting us a game-winner in the third ?? :yo:

Looks like Giguere is coming in for Bryz. Odd timing for it.

Looks like Giguere is coming in for Bryz. Odd timing for it.

Maybe injury?

Looks like Giguere is coming in for Bryz. Odd timing for it.

what? Is there an injury?

I don't know if it's an injury or not. Bryz looked angry after he got pulled, so I don't know what's going on there.

the announcers say that Bryz is still in unless they dont realise hes out.

Yeah, I'm confused.

The announcers must have missed that, the TV guys were as confused as I was for the change.

Much better period for the Ducks though.

Question to you all.

How does one team 'dominate' the period and get no PP's while the other team gets two of them?Oh I forgot this is a MAGOO game.

Crap, I've missed most of this game and the fight. Bryz was pulled? That's too bad... he was awesome there for a while.

no TV For me so my comments are being made without seeing the game...

-not a good decision to pull Bryzgalov. We need a backup who has confidence and is in a good supportive mood with his teammates down the stretch run. Do not pull him when he only gives up 3 goals.

-Good decision getting Moen back in there, we need the grit and character, and he came through with a goal.

wonder what the reasoning is for the change, its not like he was playing badly...

wonder what the reasoning is for the change, its not like he was playing badly...

I'm sure there are at least "3" reasons why I can say he was pulled.

I'm sure there are at least "3" reasons why I can say he was pulled.

ok, as long as Giguere is pulled the next time he gives up 3 goals in 2 periods.

Sounds like Lupul is high, wide, and ugly again.

man everytime they come back from break and they play some crazy music it scares the crap out of me.

Rob... can you please go ONE game without taking a stupid penalty?

Thank you

ok, as long as Giguere is pulled the next time he gives up 3 goals in 2 periods.
Yep, giving up 3 goals to a team without their #1 center is the same as giving up 3 to say the stars.

Yep, giving up 3 goals to a team without their #1 center is the same as giving up 3 to say the stars.

Well no TV for me I have no idea how good Columbus is playing right now and how bad Bryzgalov was. Still 3 goals against any team in 2 periods is not usually worth being pulled.

I know it's been said already, but these announcers are way too excitable.

I know it's been said already, but these announcers are way too excitable.

It could be worse... Jim Fox could be doing the color.

Ducks take the lead
(not Selanne, whoops ;)

Ducks score! Sounded like it was Teemu.

EDIT:It wasn't Teemu, it was Lupul. My bad.

Lupul baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ducks lead 4-3. On the powerplay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yessssssssssssssss

Sounds like Lupul is high, wide, and ugly again.

OK, he heard me.

It could be worse... Jim Fox could be doing the color.


From the standpoint of...

Well no TV for me I have no idea how good Columbus is playing right now and how bad Bryzgalov was. Still 3 goals against any team in 2 periods is not usually worth being pulled.
I agree with you, I have no idea how he looked. Sometimes coaches change goalies to spark their team.

The invisible man scores.

Ok you guys all owe Lupul an apology. Ducks lead baby!

ppl time

Another powerplay to put this game away. Hopefully they don't go ultra-conservative. I hate that ****.

Lux, you need an avatar with Selanne showing his missing teeth. Then he'll be new and improved. :D

These announcers are stressing me out.

Ok you guys all owe Lupul an apology. Ducks lead baby!

Maybe what he needed all along was to switch to the pink stick.

Lux, you need an avatar with Selanne showing his missing teeth. Then he'll be new and improved. :D
I'll have to look for one.

These announcers are stressing me out.

IMO, these guys aren't too bad compared to others around the league.

Bah, CBS PP.

These announcers are stressing me out.

They do make the game "exciting." I don't recommend this for anyone hooked up to a pace maker.

Ok you guys all owe Lupul an apology. Ducks lead baby!

Good to hear he scored a big goal for a change. I'll get off his case for a while.

Ok you guys all owe Lupul an apology. Ducks lead baby!
CFOB is right about Lupul...he's like Sykora, he'll be invisible for a long time and then he'll score a goal.

The lineman got injured. Looks like we'll be a linesman short the rest of the game.

How often do you see that?

CFOB is right about Lupul...he's like Sykora, he'll be invisible for a long time and then he'll score a goal.

Its called the Brett Hull school of hockey.

2 man advantage for CBus....possibly, according to these announcers.

Time for that storied Ducks penalty kill to go to work.

OK no 5 on 3.

I hope we don't have to remember this moment.

Time for that storied Ducks penalty kill to go to work.

OK no 5 on 3.

God is on our side.

or not.

or not.
You don't believe in Sammi?

Is anyone else on pins and needles? Cmon 1:33 secs left.

I can't believe it, we take a penalty NOW?

Great another penalty on the Ducks.

God's gotta come up huge.

AANOTHER PENALTY!!

the only plus is we can clear without icing..

Is anyone else on pins and needles? Cmon 1:33 secs left.

****! penalty too?

20 sec left....c'mon! Save by Jiggy.

6.9 left now.

these announcers are killing me

Giguere with a HUGE save.

Season-saving save right there with under 2 secs to go.

oh **** giggy

Jiggy with "A GAME SAVING SAVE!!!!"

Man, 1.8 left now.

Whew, what a close ending there. We win though!

Ducks win!!!

Ducks Win!

Ducks win!

yay.


oh, Ducks Win!

Ducks only 1 point behind LA now and the Kings have played 3 more games than Anaheim.

Season-saving save right there with under 2 secs to go.

Season saving? Big exaggeration.

I see on NHL.com that the BJ's recalled Alexandre Picard. They should make him Captain. Captain Picard.

Yes, I'm a SF nerd.

I see on NHL.com that the BJ's recalled Alexandre Picard. They should make him Captain. Captain Picard.

Yes, I'm a SF nerd.

When they drafted him, the guys at TSN mentioned how Picard would be Captain material in the future. I'm not sure they realized the irony in that.

I see on NHL.com that the BJ's recalled Alexandre Picard. They should make him Captain. Captain Picard.

Yes, I'm a SF nerd.

Would he happen to know of any temporal worm hole that would allow us to go back in time and stop the Ducks from drafting Chad Kilger, Mikael Holmqvist, Alexei Smirnov, and Stanislav Chistov?

Season saving? Big exaggeration.
I don't know about that...this is a team you have to beat.

the jackets announcers were saying these two teams are evenly matched...uh look at the standings.

I bet Randy Carlyle isn't happy about having to play Giguere..but you needed these 2 points.

Season saving? Big exaggeration.

I don't think so ... we absolutely cannot afford to give away points to any of our, "easier," opponents now, not unless you think we can make up for it by winning more than our fair share against the tough opponents like Dallas.

Other than one more game against Phoenix, we have zero games left against teams we do particularly well against. We absolutely could not afford to drop this one.

Giguere was huge down the stretch, we can thank him for those two points. Bryzgalov wasn't bad but when its on the line he's not the guy to have in net.

And as for Lupul scoring... well the whole point of it is that if he's standing in front of an open net and Selanne makes an amazing pass to get the puck to him sure he'll score. Absolutely 100% invisible every other shift he played.

Would he happen to know of any temporal worm hole that would allow us to go back in time and stop the Ducks from drafting Chad Kilger, Mikael Holmqvist, Alexei Smirnov, and Stanislav Chistov?
Maybe. And perhaps they'll throw in Maxim Balmochnykh just for the heck of it.

Ducks only 1 point behind LA now and the Kings have played 3 more games than Anaheim.

and we have tied Vancouver for the 8th spot. Vancouver plays Detroit tonight.

I don't think so ... we absolutely cannot afford to give away points to any of our, "easier," opponents now, not unless you think we can make up for it by winning more than our fair share against the tough opponents like Dallas.

Other than one more game against Phoenix, we have zero games left against teams we do particularly well against. We absolutely could not afford to drop this one.

So if we had lost, the season would be over? Games can be important, but this was not season-saving.

One word: PHEW. Huge save by Giguere on Nash. Not a season saver, but definitely an extra point saver. Amazing how he's down for the first shot then in the blink of an eye pops up and is in perfect position for the 2nd shot. Weird move to pull Ilya as the 2 goals I saw him give up he didn't have much of a chance, but the team seemed to respond to it and played very well defensively. Only in the final minutes did the BJ's start to get chances. Worked out in the end and hopefully Ilya doesn't lose any confidence over this. 1st period was brutal, can't start like that against the Stars. Ducks controlled the game for the most part after the 1st period ended. Vish laid two huge hits tonight which I always like to see. Scott has to stay out of the box, but he played well. No one else really stood out. Back in 8th and hopefully the Wings do us a favor tonight by winning in regulation.

So if we had lost, the season would be over? Games can be important, but this was not season-saving.

We won't know if it was a "season saver" until the end of the regular season. If we make the playoffs by one point, braincramp, I think you'll owe mmbt a beer.

:cheers:

So if we had lost, the season would be over? Games can be important, but this was not season-saving.

I think it would have been pretty darned devastating.

The race is going to come down to one or two points, in all likelihood. When it's that tight, games against teams like Chicago and Columbus HAVE to be wins.

The attachment shows projected league standings as of the end of yesterday (3/18). It calculates the standings-points-per-game-played for each team through the season, and projects that same ratio for each team through 82 games. The mean points are determined and rounded, and this is considered to be the number of points needed to make the #8 playoff spot. The required wins and affordable losses are then calculated.

As you can see, the Ducks had to go 9-8 over their last 17 games to make the playoffs, barring ties. This means no individual game is a must-win or season-saving situation at this time.

Of course, stuff can happen. In particular, the model assumes teams play the rest of the year as they have in the season-to-date, hardly a certainty. There may be proportionally more 3-point games than there have been. The tiebreakers may come into play.

But the Ducks are hardly in dire straits or on the brink of crashing -- they are viable competitors, and should finish about #5-#7, although the margins are quite tight. And it doesn't matter who they play, they must make their number of wins.

The attachment shows projected league standings as of the end of yesterday (3/18). It calculates the standings-points-per-game-played for each team through the season, and projects that same ratio for each team through 82 games. The mean points are determined and rounded, and this is considered to be the number of points needed to make the #8 playoff spot. The required wins and affordable losses are then calculated.

As you can see, the Ducks had to go 9-8 over their last 17 games to make the playoffs, barring ties. This means no individual game is a must-win or season-saving situation at this time.

Of course, stuff can happen. In particular, the model assumes teams play the rest of the year as they have in the season-to-date, hardly a certainty. There may be proportionally more 3-point games than there have been. The tiebreakers may come into play.

But the Ducks are hardly in dire straits or on the brink of crashing -- they are viable competitors, and should finish about #5-#7, although the margins are quite tight. And it doesn't matter who they play, they must make their number of wins.

That's pretty good. But you have waaaayy too much free time.

The attachment shows projected league standings as of the end of yesterday (3/18). It calculates the standings-points-per-game-played for each team through the season, and projects that same ratio for each team through 82 games. The mean points are determined and rounded, and this is considered to be the number of points needed to make the #8 playoff spot. The required wins and affordable losses are then calculated.

As you can see, the Ducks had to go 9-8 over their last 17 games to make the playoffs, barring ties. This means no individual game is a must-win or season-saving situation at this time.

Of course, stuff can happen. In particular, the model assumes teams play the rest of the year as they have in the season-to-date, hardly a certainty. There may be proportionally more 3-point games than there have been. The tiebreakers may come into play.

But the Ducks are hardly in dire straits or on the brink of crashing -- they are viable competitors, and should finish about #5-#7, although the margins are quite tight. And it doesn't matter who they play, they must make their number of wins.

That's all well and good, but do you really think they'll make their requisite number of wins if they drop games against the likes of Columbus?

That's all well and good, but do you really think they'll make their requisite number of wins if they drop games against the likes of Columbus?

My original point is that the phrase "season-saving save" was an exaggeration. I still think that point is justified. Over and out.

Ok you guys all owe Lupul an apology. Ducks lead baby!
Maybe, but Joe DiPenta would of scored that goal. Like someone said Selanne made a sweet pass.

If Bryz doesn't get pulled I think this game goes into overtime but thats just a guess. The one goal was kind of his usual weird, how did that go in type. After that he looked like he was struggling with the puck.

Quiet game from Andy but with all the PK work it was expected. Pahlsson logged 9+ minutes alone on the Pk he was solid as usual. Moen was ok.

Fedoruk won the fight with Shelly, he landed some uppercuts but it wasn't all that great. Finally Vish laid one of his huge hits, it had been awhile.

Kunitz had a good game. He was really making an effort to finish his checks and made some nice passes in the o-zone. Good come from behind win, maybe we can steal something in Dallas? :dunno:

maybe we can steal something in Dallas? :dunno:

Hopefully. I'm looking for a 2-2 split in our four remaining games with the Stars. But considering how badly they own us, I'd probably be satisfied with 1-2-1.

did they ever say why byz got pulled? its pretty sad the we might have lost if feds would have played.....

did they ever say why byz got pulled?

With the game still tied, Carlyle replaced Ilya Bryzgalov with Giguere at 11:24 of the second period.

''You hope that your goaltender, that no matter who's in there, is going to provide you with a level of goaltending that you have a chance to win,'' he said. ''I didn't think we were getting that early in the game, so I made the change.''

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=159356&hubname=nhl

did they ever say why byz got pulled? its pretty sad the we might have lost if feds would have played.....

Carlyle said something after the game like he didn't feel Bryz was giving the team a realistic chance to win. I don't necessarily agree with that, but hey, it worked.

EDIT: McD19 got me.

Lord save us from statisticians.

Anyway. It sounds like the BJ announcers had you guys fooled. Once the first period ended the Ducks dominated the entire game. I was entirely confident we'd come back - that's saying something. With regard to Lupul - that's a tap-in goal. Selanne made a spinaround, behind-the-back pass on Joffrey's tape, who had a wide open net. The pass (and the goal, almost) went pretty much wholly unremarked by the Columbus announcers.

The game would have been a lot less tense for the listeners if the Ducks had converted their many, many chances. Lupul, Selanne, and Kunitz were big culprits in that respect.

I don't think Bryz deserved the hook but Giguere did make that save at the end, so who knows. Like I said, the Jackets never really threatened after the first. If they stay out of the box they can beat anybody.

My original point is that the phrase "season-saving save" was an exaggeration. I still think that point is justified. Over and out.

I think the mere fact that Carlyle felt it necessary to take out Bryz even though he hadn't played particularly badly suggests that our coach saw things differently than you. Switching goalies like that is like going to your staff ace in the 5th inning the night before he starts another game ... you don't do it unless you think your season's in danger of slipping away, that you absolutely cannot afford to lose that game.

Maybe. And perhaps they'll throw in Maxim Balmochnykh just for the heck of it.

We just have to send T800 back in time to kill Pierre Gauthier's mother before Pierre was born. It's easy.

It looks like Moen is in for Hedstrom this afternoon. :shakehead

AHEM

AHEM

I thought Moen played extremely well for being scratched for so many games. Good coaching move by Caryle. :)

http://www.hockeyfights.com/videos/

Fedoruk vs Shelley

Left wing Todd Fedoruk fought Columbus enforcer Jody Shelley to a draw in the second period. It was a rematch of their long tangle in December when Fedoruk scored a decisive victory. "Sometimes you get rusty," Fedoruk joked. "You got to keep fighting"….

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-duckrep20mar20,1,3897668.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

I thought Moen played extremely well for being scratched for so many games. Good coaching move by Caryle. :)

yeah Carlyle was impressed with Moen too:

Moen also played a season-high 16 minutes 42 seconds as he registered three hits, had a takeaway and blocked a shot. Duck Coach Randy Carlyle praised the forward for his strong forechecking that sparked a three-goal rally.

reason Hedstrom did not play:

Moen's playing time Sunday came at the expense of Jonathan Hedstrom, who was scratched for the first time this season. Carlyle said he wasn't thrilled with Hedstrom's work Friday in their victory in Chicago and wants more from the left wing.

"You'd have to ask him if it was a wake-up call," Carlyle said. "I've talked to him numerous occasions about it. I talked to him today about it.

"I didn't think there was enough there in the last game in Chicago. We talked about it, and I made that decision."

Hedstrom, who has occasionally shuffled between the second and third lines, has 12 goals and 11 assists.

"It's not up to me," he said about the decision. "Just have to keep working. I hope I get back as soon as possible."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-duckrep20mar20,1,3897668.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

I like Carlyle's way of thinking.

Now get Konopka back to lineup (he's scoring, fighting and leading in Portland) and I'm happy.

Anyone still want to trade Giguere because it is good asset management because it sure appears Carlyle and Burke are really confident in Bryzgalov...

Anyone still want to trade Giguere because it is good asset management because it sure appears Carlyle and Burke are really confident in Bryzgalov...

People wanted to give Bryz a real CHANCE to take the no.1 spot, not just hand it to him. Huge differnece.

Besides, Giguere has had much worse starts to a game without getting the hook.

People wanted to give Bryz a real CHANCE to take the no.1 spot, not just hand it to him.

And the only way to do that is keep Giguere. Trading him hands the job to Bryzgalov.

Besides, Giguere has had much worse starts to a game without getting the hook.

Bryzgalov didn't even play badly. It's just the confidence that he'll make the big game changing save when the Ducks need it isn't there. I don't have it and apparently neither does Carlyle.

This is crunch time, you play your number one guy.

And the only way to do that is keep Giguere. Trading him hands the job to Bryzgalov.

Exactly, I don't think anyone is ready to trade Giguere BEFORE Bryz has taken the no.1 job.

Exactly, I don't think anyone is ready to trade Giguere BEFORE Bryz has taken the no.1 job.

Sensible people anyway. But that doesn't apply to some of the folks around here who'd be happy to get a couple cheap 2nd liners in return. Fortunately, the only opinion that matters is Burke's, and I don't think he'd ever unload Giguere lightly after his tenure in Vancouver, when he found out just how hard it really is to find even decent goalies for a reasonable price.

Speaking of Lupul, how many of his 24 (or whatever his total is currently) goals are simple tap-ins to open net?

I swear atleast half of them are 'cant miss' goals.

Some of them have been...but some have also been of the amazing shot location variety where he has nailed the puck just below the crossbar as well from about 15 feet out...he is a tremendous sniper and has the shot/hands to score 30 consistently in this league, but he does not bring it enough on a consistent basis up to this point.

Maybe he's just a complementary scoring line player, rather than a guy who can carry a line. So the solution to me seems to be that we need to find him a center who can create chances, and just let him worry about finishing. As it is, he's had to create for himself, and that's really not his game ... he was always billed as a shooter/finisher, not a creator.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/cf1427/060319_fedoruk_shelley.wmv (hockeyfights.com)


Here is the fight from last night if anyone hasnt seen it...


and once again my link doesnt work. Whatevs, its there, find it for yourself.

McDonald19 already posted the link.

www.hockeyfights.com/videos and right-click the shelley-fridge fight to save it to your HD.

McDonald19 already posted the link.

www.hockeyfights.com/videos and right-click the shelley-fridge fight to save it to your HD.

oh, I was too lazy to go back through the thread. heh.

Moen is basically Hedstrom but younger, tougher and actually throws hits. Another steal by Burke. :clap:

Moen is basically Hedstrom but younger, tougher and actually throws hits. Another steal by Burke. :clap:

Hedstrom is ahead defensively but we already have Marchant and Pahlsson to fill our defensive forwards quota.

I like Moen, he and Zenon would make a good 2/3rd of a 4th line. Ideal situation would be to have them and Pahlsson on 4th line for ~10 mins per night (Pahlsson ~12-13mins thanks to extra PK duty).

That happens when we finally get a real 2nd line. Fedoruk, Rob and Marchant could be the 3rd line. Perry, Getz and someone on 2nd and Lupul on topline with AndyMac and Selanne. Maybe someday...

We've got more than enough bottom six players, but we'll still end up trying to work out who's better. I don't care who's playing, as long as we win, and there's only six of them (the rest should be top six players...).

Hedstrom is ahead defensively but we already have Marchant and Pahlsson to fill our defensive forwards quota.

Hedstrom is also better offensively. The only way in which Moen is a better player is in the physical aspects if the game. But that's something this team needs so I've got no problem with Moen playing.

Moen is basically Hedstrom but younger, tougher and actually throws hits. Another steal by Burke. :clap:
You think Hedstrom doesn't play physical?

Moen is basically Hedstrom but younger, tougher and actually throws hits. Another steal by Burke. :clap:
Its not really a steal, considering he was a healthy scratch 8 straight games and will probably be again before the season is over. I don't think either will be back next year.

You think Hedstrom doesn't play physical?

Compared to Moen, hell no.

Its not really a steal, considering he was a healthy scratch 8 straight games and will probably be again before the season is over. I don't think either will be back next year.

Why wouldnt he? He done great this year and is a prototypical 3rd/4th liner and can replace Hedstrom for less.

You think Hedstrom doesn't play physical?

Never said that but when you compare them theres a big difference

Freakin salei almost cost the Ducks that game. He takes the dumb penalty that they score on. The puck goes in off him (not really his fault, but still) and then he decides to lead the rush and miss the net by 3 feet only to give the best two players on the other team a 2 on 1.

Good gutsy win. Giguere was solid there at the end.