Ducks Acquire Jeff Friesen

Dogbert
03-09-2006, 12:52 PM
TSN is reporting that the Ducks have traded a 2nd-rounder for F Jeff Friesen.

Good trade. Low risk.

Ducksforcup
03-09-2006, 12:53 PM
TSN is reporting that the Ducks have traded a 2nd-rounder for F Jeff Friesen.

Good trade. Low risk.

:eek: The guy that lowballed the Ducks and said he hated it here. :help:

He is a UFA after this season right?

kingsfan25
03-09-2006, 12:58 PM
He sounds like someone just killed his dog in the TSN interview.

Kimi
03-09-2006, 01:01 PM
:madfire:

Chistov23
03-09-2006, 01:05 PM
The guy that lowballed the Ducks and said he hated it here.
He lives there in the summer and skates with some ducks in august. He hated the situation he was in and the organization is 100% new from when he was here.

I'll wait to judge this trade on what he does. Who knows maybe he is packaged with Carney later today....
He sounds like someone just killed his dog in the TSN interview.
In defense, they called him and told him and then he did the interview, he was definitely shocked. He knew about it like seconds ago so his reaction wasn't a big surprise but yea he could of been a little more enthusiastic.

braincramp
03-09-2006, 01:06 PM
. . . The guy that lowballed the Ducks and said he hated it here. . .

But here isn't here anymore -- new owner, new GM, new coach, half the team is new. Only the same old fans like me.

GentlemanOfLeisure
03-09-2006, 01:09 PM
Jeff hated the ducks. If Jeff doenst like where he is, he wont play hard. period. Ask the caps fans that.

MightyAdam
03-09-2006, 01:14 PM
Penner gives his heart to the game. If Friesen isn't happy to play here, and see's this as a new opportunity to do better then he was doing in Washington, then I would rather see Penner play then be sent down.

However, we all know Burke by now. Burke has said in the past that if a player doesn't want to play in Anaheim that he will find that player another place to play. Well, I am sure Friesen won't be here long if doesn't want to be here.

Friesen is an awesome skater and I think playing with Lupul would really make an awesome line. Lets just hope his attitude is that of gratitude, rather than that of an ego.

freezefan
03-09-2006, 01:22 PM
I think Jeff will do good this time around. All he needs is a good playmaking centermen, and he'll be fine. Just look at what he did when he had guys like Damphousse and Niewendyk playing with him. I think he would really thrive playing on the top line with Selanne and McDonald.

Kevin Forbes
03-09-2006, 01:22 PM
i'd say he slots in to replace Kunitz on the top line....thoughts?

Kimi
03-09-2006, 01:28 PM
i'd say he slots in to replace Kunitz on the top line....thoughts?
Logical.

braincramp
03-09-2006, 01:31 PM
Only played 33 games this year; groin injury.
In NJ, was 40+48=88 cumulative over two years, +31
Was 17+26=43 in his last year here (01-02).

I can see most anyone on the Caps being discouraged this year, despite the AO promise.

Definately worth a shot.

Kick Save
03-09-2006, 01:46 PM
There are---or at least up until about an hour ago there were three former Ducks that I never wanted to see in a Ducks uniform again: Jason York, Jeff Friesen and Paul Kariya. I met York at a couple of Ducks' functions and he was one of the most-boorish individuals you'll ever encounter. I know that meeting fans and being compelled (by the team) to sign autographs is not most players' favorite activity. However, York was downright rude.

As for Friesen, I don't have a lot of respect for players who badmouth their former team the second they leave town. Friesen was dreadful during his time here. If Pepper thinks that Pahlsson can't "finish", I'd be a wealthy man if I had a buck for every open net that Friesen missed during his only full-season here. (Was it 2001-2002?) To add insult to injury, he did manage to find the back of the net as a member of the Devils in the 2003 Stanley Cup Finals.

While none of the principals involved in the Ducks trade with Devils over the summer in '02 had much of a lasting impact on their new teams---Sykora, Tverdovsky and Friesen have all been moved at least once since the trade---I was happy to say "good riddance" to Friesen as soon as I learned of the trade.

As for Kariya, if he thought he was worth anywhere near the $10 mil he was pulling down, he was seriously out-of-touch with reality. After that, he signs for $1.2 mil---I know that was to preserve his Free Agent status (because he was making less than the league average)---with Colorado. The same guy who fears had said that he wanted to win a Stanley Cup in Anaheim.

At least Kariya had talent, though. York was marginal, at best. Friesen was one of the most-overrated player in the NHL for years.

I've defended a lot of Burke's moves, but I wouldn't have given up a 4th-rounder for Friesen.

Ville Isopää
03-09-2006, 01:46 PM
ugh.. anyone but Friesen.. if it was a 5th or 6th roudner, ok, but a 2nd?? Well, we all know how Burkie throws them around..

Varius
03-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Friesen has the speed to keep up with McDonald and Selanne. I'd expect him to play on their line, getting top minutes.

If he is happy and not lazy doing that (I think he would be, new system is much more his style than old defensive-minded Ducks), that line will really fly!

Guess we'll see in a few games.

MightyAdam
03-09-2006, 02:06 PM
Friesen probably didn't like playing for the ducks cause of their style of play. But now that they have opened there game up considerably since he last played here, he might enjoy his time here better then last time. This is what he said when he got traded to the Devils.

"The last two years were tough," he said. "My focus got away from me, I wanted to focus on defense and winning and putting the team first. I wasn't as greedy around the net.

"I'm ready to fulfill my potential" with the Devils, he said.

Randall Graves*
03-09-2006, 04:15 PM
Jeff hated the ducks. If Jeff doenst like where he is, he wont play hard. period. Ask the caps fans that.
We are well aware, Burke better know something about him that we don't..

Professor John Frink
03-09-2006, 05:44 PM
I'll save judgement until I see what the guy brings to the table.

Remeber Friesen was dealt from a contender to a horrid Ducks team back in his first stint. Not an excuse but different situations nonetheless.

I'll wait and see which Friesen we get before I bash the move.

mmbt
03-09-2006, 06:47 PM
I don't care how bad the Ducks were and the Caps are, if you collect your salary from the fans, you owe them a solid effort. If he puts in a good effort for us now after obviously dogging it the last time he was here, it'll just make him even more obnoxious ... what is he, god's gift to hockey, that he should only ever have to play for a good team? We're good enough for him now, but not back then? F that. He's no better than Shields in that regard.

Randall Graves*
03-09-2006, 07:08 PM
I don't know what the heck to expect from him. If he produces I can put up with him for 21 games..if he gives a piss poor effort they better put his *** on waivers.

McDonald19
03-09-2006, 07:24 PM
i'd say he slots in to replace Kunitz on the top line....thoughts?

Yeah I'd say he will get a shot there. I'd prefer Penner be scratched over Kunitz though.

McDonald19
03-09-2006, 07:27 PM
Well hopefully his negative feelings for the Ducks are behind him.

Hopefully he is excited to be a part of a playoff push.

I met him at Anaheim Ice (when it was called Disney Ice) just before the lockout started. He was training there with guys like Rucchin and Leclerc. I had a chat with him, and he was pretty nice. I still hate him for the way he behaved on the way out of Anaheim a few years ago though.

2nd rd pick seems like overpayment but Burke likes to throw draft picks around. At least we still have our first round pick.

mmbt
03-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I met him at Anaheim Ice (when it was called Disney Ice) just before the lockout started. He was training there with guys like Rucchin and Leclerc. I had a chat with him, and he was pretty nice. I still hate him for the way he behaved on the way out of Anaheim a few years ago though.

He could have said the nicest things about Anaheim when leaving and it wouldn't change the fact that he didn't play hard for us. Don't want to play for a bad team? Fine, hand back your paycheck and sit.

As for him being a nice guy, I'm sure he is ... but I don't really give a ****. You can find the 20 nicest guys on earth and sign them, but if they play like beer leaguers I'm not paying NHL money to watch.

Randall Graves*
03-09-2006, 07:37 PM
Yeah I'd say he will get a shot there. I'd prefer Penner be scratched over Kunitz though.
Penner will probably go back to Portland..

Randall Graves*
03-09-2006, 07:38 PM
He could have said the nicest things about Anaheim when leaving and it wouldn't change the fact that he didn't play hard for us. Don't want to play for a bad team? Fine, hand back your paycheck and sit.

As for him being a nice guy, I'm sure he is ... but I don't really give a ****. You can find the 20 nicest guys on earth and sign them, but if they play like beer leaguers I'm not paying NHL money to watch.
Not to defend him, but at that time the ducks org was a mess..

Lyons71
03-09-2006, 09:01 PM
He still got paid a lot.

braincramp
03-09-2006, 09:34 PM
. . . You can find the 20 nicest guys on earth and sign them, but if they play like beer leaguers I'm not paying NHL money to watch.

You're hooked for life.

190Octane
03-09-2006, 09:59 PM
I still don't like him, it's going to take a lot for me to not boo when he gets annouced the first time I go to a game with him playing.

There was a thread on the main board about who you would never want back, I was going to say Friesen but... look how that turned out.

MightyAdam
03-09-2006, 10:25 PM
"You guys broke the news to me," Friesen told TSN. "It's a shocker. I never heard anything that Anaheim had any interest. You guys shocked me with that one and I'm still trying to take it all in."

lets cut him some slack...he's only human...most people who get traded are shocked at first...he will get over it

"I had some injuries and things were not going the way I'm used to," Friesen told TSN. "Nothing seemed to be in rhythm. I got hurt in training camp... Obviously the season didn't go the way I would have liked it to, but I've got an opportunity now and I've got to take advantage of it."

...he see's coming to Anaheim as an opportunity so this is good


"It's a totally different team than when I was there before," Friesen told TSN. "But I've played with Scott Niedermayer before so there are some familiar faces and I live there in the off-season."

...he seems pretty positive about coming to Anaheim

...I think we all over-reacted a little but he will soon probably be one of OUR favorite players...watch in a week from now, when he has a hat-trick, we will all be praising him! :biglaugh:

Randall Graves*
03-09-2006, 10:32 PM
I still don't like him, it's going to take a lot for me to not boo when he gets annouced the first time I go to a game with him playing.

There was a thread on the main board about who you would never want back, I was going to say Friesen but... look how that turned out.
You should've thought about Jordon Leopold or something

190Octane
03-09-2006, 10:40 PM
No kidding.

lux_interior
03-10-2006, 12:43 AM
I'm cautiously optimistic about this deal. I don't harbor any resentments to the guy, I just wonder if it's a good fit. I do think he would work nicely with McDonald and Teemu. My questions are more along the psychological side, if you please, that he may not be motivated to play here.

Of course the culture of the team has changed and I don't know that guys like Scott and Fedoruk and Teemu would put up with him half-assing it. But anyways I think that whole situation from before is oveblown massively.

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-10-2006, 01:02 AM
He's a d'ouche (jeebus, can't even say ******, how lame is this board becoming), we all know that, no denying it. I don't understand why Burke went for him. Friesen is basically Marchant - overpaid third-liners with fast feet and stone hands. Friesen has some dormant upside, but he's also a UFA to be. That makes us buyers....right?

So what's with dumping Ozolinsh for nothing?

Static
03-10-2006, 01:05 AM
money for next year....he probably figured that since we've gone all year without him we might as well be able to finish without him. This money could go to a good 2nd pairing dman and or a scoring center next year.

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-10-2006, 01:06 AM
We have plenty of cap space already, Carney and Salei and Friesen all come off the books (or would have) by then. No excuse.

Static
03-10-2006, 01:11 AM
Can you argue with more money? If you think about it we basically took his salary off the books. I mean were you seriously that worried about him NOT coming back three weeks ago? Enough to be pissed if he was traded in a dump move? I wasnt really, becuase we had played well without him. If he was traded before his two goals would you have been miffed?

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-10-2006, 01:26 AM
What earthly good does dumping salary do us right now? We can't use it from now until the end of the season, and it's not like we're not in a playoff race here....and Ozolinsh's value could only have gone up. Trade him in the offseason if you still don't want him around.

It's just a stupid move, unless he was directed to cut salary.

mmbt
03-10-2006, 01:32 AM
But anyways I think that whole situation from before is oveblown massively.

I don't think it's overblown at all. He dogged it because he didn't want to play for anyone but a contender, but apparently the money was just fine to take anyway. Screw him. I hope he gets cheapshotted, and no Duck stands up for him ... since this team isn't good enough for him, then he can fend for himself.

Hockey Duckie
03-10-2006, 01:34 AM
I thought the purpose was to make the playoffs this year?

~Ozo for 3rd??? Well means outside looking in?


Is this team preparing for the future or really cheap?

~Freisen for 2nd??? Give up a high draft pick to save money by not paying a 2nd round pick salary?

BTW, why Freisen? I hate him! Couldn't the Ducks have traded for anyone else?! I'm with most of the reg's on the subject of Freisen... disgusted w/ his effort and badmouthing the org.

MightyAdam
03-10-2006, 01:35 AM
[QUOTE=Chock Full Of Booger] Friesen is basically Marchant - overpaid third-liners with fast feet and stone hands. Friesen has some dormant upside, but he's also a UFA to be. That makes us buyers....right?

Yeah, but Marchant had one year where he scored 20 goals. Friesen has had 4 of those where he scored more than 20, and one where he scored more than 30. He should be able to help us cause he will have plenty of offense left to give after basically not using any of it up earlier in the year.

Burke sure has kept his word though. He said in the summer that the Ducks would be faster and stronger and with the additional of O'Donnell...along with people he past aquired like Fedoruk, Selanne, etc....Burke is being a man of his word.

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-10-2006, 01:49 AM
Yeah, but Marchant had one year where he scored 20 goals. Friesen has had 4 of those where he scored more than 20, and one where he scored more than 30. He should be able to help us cause he will have plenty of offense left to give after basically not using any of it up earlier in the year.

Mighty Adam, I know your little fingers get all excited and like to taptaptapdance all over the keyboard, but the next time you have something to say to me that includes stats, just assume that I already know them. That will give you more time and space to blurt out your awesome deep thoughts.

Anyway, the whole Friesen has more goals than Marchant thing was already covered, by me, BREIFLY, when I said that Friesen has dormant offensive upside while simultaneously implying that Marchant does not.

So, uh, nice talking to you then.

Pepper
03-10-2006, 02:59 AM
Mighty Adam, I know your little fingers get all excited and like to taptaptapdance all over the keyboard, but the next time you have something to say to me that includes stats, just assume that I already know them. That will give you more time and space to blurt out your awesome deep thoughts.

Anyway, the whole Friesen has more goals than Marchant thing was already covered, by me, BREIFLY, when I said that Friesen has dormant offensive upside while simultaneously implying that Marchant does not.

So, uh, nice talking to you then.

No need to be rude to Adam just because he whooped your *** here.

There is a clear difference between Marchant and Friesen and it's bigger than you admitted there.

Spankatola Jamnuts
03-10-2006, 03:40 AM
I should teach courses in reading comprehension before I let people talk to me.

McDonald19
03-10-2006, 04:53 AM
Penner will probably go back to Portland..

yup...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-ducks10mar10,1,6311243.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Friesen, who was with New Jersey when they won the Cup over the Ducks, brings speed and experience on the left side. Burke said that rookie forward Dustin Penner, whose spot Friesen will likely take, could be sent to minor-league Portland.

Pwnasaurus
03-10-2006, 09:20 AM
I hate Friesen as much as the next fan on this board but I get the feeling that since he is a UFA coming off an injury, he might really play out of his mind for the next contract because if he does nothing this last month or so of the season he will get hardly any looks on the market next summer.

Professor John Frink
03-10-2006, 12:46 PM
The issue I have is that Burke was horribly inconsistant in his trades yesterday. As i think CFOB said, were we sellers or buyers? Dealing Carney...sellers, getting Friesen...buyers, dealing Ozolinsh.....sellers, acquiring OD....buyers.

Trying to win now while looking to the future I get. I get what he was trying to do here. With all these moves it will gives us a good 10 million to play with this offseason. But again he jepordized this season for that. The moves make me believe he really wanted to be a seller, but with out position for the playoffs felt he needed to be a buyer for the fans.

Pwnasaurus
03-10-2006, 01:11 PM
I think of it more as he was a buyer while still getting rid of some players that weren't "his" guys like Ozolinsh (in addition to the fact mentioned that he was still under contract next season)...Carney has been underperforming all year and has been downright awful at times turning the puck over more this season than I can recall him doing in all his years here combined. I was not disappointed that he was traded although I would have like to see Ozolinsh in the postseason in a Ducks uni again as he was great during the cup run and had played real well since coming back this year. I guess I agree with you in a way, kinda running in place during the deadline. I am positively giddy at the future of the team however as they are better setup than just about anyone right now in terms of prospects, young players and money.

Kick Save
03-10-2006, 01:22 PM
I think of it more as he was a buyer while still getting rid of some players that weren't "his" guys like Ozolinsh (in addition to the fact mentioned that he was still under contract next season)...Carney has been underperforming all year and has been downright awful at times turning the puck over more this season than I can recall him doing in all his years here combined. I was not disappointed that he was traded although I would have like to see Ozolinsh in the postseason in a Ducks uni again as he was great during the cup run and had played real well since coming back this year. I guess I agree with you in a way, kinda running in place during the deadline. I am positively giddy at the future of the team however as they are better setup than just about anyone right now in terms of prospects, young players and money.

While I agree with you that Carney has turned over the puck more this season than at any time during his tenure here---and, probably, more than at any time in his career---I'm puzzled by the fact that you wanted to keep Ozolinsh who, to me, is a poster child for ill-timed turnovers in the defensive zone.

I'll stick by my original comment on Friesen, although I concede to the poster who said that it's put-up-or-shutup time for him. (No hard play and no point production=no contract next year---at least not in Anaheim).

I like the fact that Burke has freed up some cap space, although trading players for draft picks and then trading draft picks for players looks a bit schizophrenic.

mmbt
03-10-2006, 02:03 PM
The end result though is that we have about the same chances at the playoffs this year, while trimming Ozo's salary, gaining a 3rd round pick, and swapping the uncertainty of Carney's stay for one extra year of O'Donnell instead.

For the long term, we're slightly better off. For the short term, we're not really significantly impacted.

braincramp
03-10-2006, 02:11 PM
I should teach courses in reading comprehension before I let people talk to me.

Maybe you could take a few courses in manners. It would also help if you obtained a larger vocabulary so you wouldn't have to cuss or use the asterisk key so often. And oh yes, we all know that you know everything and said everything worthwhile first; you're constantly reminding us.

Pwnasaurus
03-10-2006, 02:31 PM
While I agree with you that Carney has turned over the puck more this season than at any time during his tenure here---and, probably, more than at any time in his career---I'm puzzled by the fact that you wanted to keep Ozolinsh who, to me, is a poster child for ill-timed turnovers in the defensive zone.


I just think he looked like a different player since he's come back from the layoff, hungrier, like he had a lot to prove. He certainly commits his fair share of turnovers no doubt, I guess I kinda wanted to see if cause some headaches for opposing coaches in the offensive zone while minmizing his own coach's headaches in his own zone come playoff time. Guess I still subconciously give him a pass for the Game 6 goal against Dallas maybe.

I'm also a sucker for a feel decent story....like Ozolinsh coming back from his personal problems to play above averagey in the post season.

Spiral
03-10-2006, 02:31 PM
I hated fish face, but I have no choice but be willing to give him a second chance! We WAY overpaid for someone who hated being here the last time. He better prove something, perform well and give all his best to help this team make the playoff... or else feel the WRATH! :madfire:

Pwnasaurus
03-10-2006, 02:34 PM
For the long term, we're slightly better off. For the short term, we're not really significantly impacted.

Agreed. I really hope Friesen is motivated...he certainly was motivated for NJ in that Ottawa series in 03.

Randall Graves*
03-10-2006, 04:03 PM
yup...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-ducks10mar10,1,6311243.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Friesen, who was with New Jersey when they won the Cup over the Ducks, brings speed and experience on the left side. Burke said that rookie forward Dustin Penner, whose spot Friesen will likely take, could be sent to minor-league Portland.
I rather see him take Kunitz spot...we are just wasting any ability Friesen might have with Marchant and Lupul.

MightyAdam
03-10-2006, 05:01 PM
I went to the practice today and did not see penner today. The third line and fourth line stayed the same. As for the second line, Kunitz was moved down to take Penner's place (He was already on that line earlier in the year) and Friesen was on the first line.

As much as people might not like Friesen, I'm telling you guy's, he was flying out there today. Him on the first line really make that line look dangerous. Anyone of those three guys can score!

Its goona be pretty good having him actually guys. Don't know about anyone else, but I am sold. Good job Burke!

Brodeur
03-10-2006, 05:30 PM
Agreed. I really hope Friesen is motivated...he certainly was motivated for NJ in that Ottawa series in 03.

It was weird, Friesen got 3 goals in the 7 game series, but each one ended up being a game winner.

Duck Fan
03-10-2006, 05:44 PM
My evaluation of the trades:

Ozo was under contract through next year = CAP space to pursue Jovo who is a UFA.

Friesen = Everybody has said the Ducks are not scoring enough. Kunitz has not been performing on the first line. I believe Burke is trying to upgrade that line and make it more productive. If Friesen doesn"t perform he will be gone next year as he is a UFA. I view this deal as Burke taking a GAMBLE that Friesen will perform better than Kunitz on the first line.

Carney = acquitisition of a prospect plus a 2nd round pick for someone who Burke does not want to re-sign and is a UFA. We get something instead of getting nothing after the season ends.

O'Donnell = Replacement for Carney the balance of the season and an experienced 5th or 6th D-man next year at a resonable salary.

Owen
03-11-2006, 02:51 PM
What numbers are he and O'Donnell gonna wear? The Ducks site sucks and never updates this stuff.

sammyp
03-11-2006, 04:03 PM
What numbers are he and O'Donnell gonna wear? The Ducks site sucks and never updates this stuff.

Friesen will be #12 and O'Donnell #21.