wayne gretzky - gm and coach 2010

yell - scream - debate - berate -

then the nhl is out of the olympics for good

No. Time for a change, Gretzky plays to much politics.

How about some fresh blood in there like a Mike Babcock or something. Gretzky hasn't exactly proven himself as a good coach with Phoenix and his selection of Team Canada cronies is probably not so great for the team.

If he is not coaching in 2010 he will be the correct guy. Cronies and all.

I think some one who says that George W Bush is a great leader has a serious lack of judgment and shouldn't have anything to do running a team that represents Canada.

I think some one who says that George W Bush is a great leader has a serious lack of judgment and shouldn't have anything to do running a team that represents Canada.

... he said that about Bush? :eek:

and people still call him the Great One? :help:

How about Darryl and Brent Sutter as GM and HC? ;)

Canada probably needs a task master type coach who can really mold the team into a cohesive unit in a short period of time. A celebrity coach like Gretzky and the country club atmosphere that follows him is probably not what is needed. Maybe Mike Keenan could be good? Or Pat Burns when he gets better.

... he said that about Bush? :eek:

and people still call him the Great One? :help:

Yes he did. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1048585693197_256/?hub=TopStories

"I live in the United States right now. I elected the president. I happen to think he's a great leader and a wonderful president," Gretzky told CTV's Seamus O'Regan. "And if he believes that we need to be where we are right now, for the freedom of the world, I back him 100 per cent."

:shakehead

Jesus ...

He's a just hockey player, not a politically informed citizen.

I heard there is a good coach available, i think everyone aruond here should think abuot letting him takeover the 2010 team. His name is Jesus Christ.

Yeah, I too heard that he's coming back (down) to earth next summer :sarcasm:

Go with a low profile coach and GM, and a young squad. High expectations tend to kill in sports (see: Team Canada in these Olympics, the Rangers prior to their recent reform, Real Madrid with Beckham et al, The Leafs nearly every year, etc...).

well i'll put this out there - barring a miracle it will be the nhl's last kick at the olympics - give wayne - full - control - win one last gold medal in our homeland -

motivation enuff?

well i'll put this out there - barring a miracle it will be the nhl's last kick at the olympics - give wayne - full - control - win one last gold medal in our homeland -

motivation enuff?
Maybe they all need to watch Miracle before thr tourney :sarcasm:

No, and No.

Gretzky has not shown to be a capable coach, and so far has blundered as a GM taking his "friends and veterans" first approach.

He was a great player, lets just leave it at that.

No, and No.

Gretzky has not shown to be a capable coach, and so far has blundered as a GM taking his "friends and veterans" first approach.

He was a great player, lets just leave it at that.
its only his first loss

its only his first loss

It's the equivalent of being the GM of the Yankee's, signing every best player, and not making the playoffs

If that happens, you're fired.

It's the equivalent of being the GM of the Yankee's, signing every best player, and not making the playoffs

If that happens, you're fired.
i guess - although in new york anything less than the world series is unacceptable - the last of which was 2000 - cashman is still there -

one loss and your out? - no second chance? - the best hockey man canada has ever had gets dumped after one loss? - dunno - when the oilers lost that final series against the islanders they never looked back after that -

He's a just hockey player, not a politically informed citizen.

He's not a hockey player and I bet he's more politically informed than you are.

No, and No.

Gretzky has not shown to be a capable coach, and so far has blundered as a GM taking his "friends and veterans" first approach.

He was a great player, lets just leave it at that.

Gretzky made a huge blunder by winning the 2002 Olympic Gold, then another massive blunder by winning the 2004 World Cup. Get that Gretzky away from Team Canada, the guy produces too many winning teams!

It's the equivalent of being the GM of the Yankee's, signing every best player, and not making the playoffs

If that happens, you're fired.

Every best player, eh?

I didn't know Jarg, Forsberg, Kovalchuck, and Ovechkin are all Canadians.

Every best player, eh?

I didn't know Jarg, Forsberg, Kovalchuck, and Ovechkin are all Canadians.

Crosbey, Staal, phaneuf, spezza I bet this group can easilly matchup against players you just named, but were not selected because politics got in a way!!!!

Defend grtzky all you want, it was known to be mistake before tourney started and tournament just proved the point that you shouldn't select based on past performances its here and now thats what counts.

Crosbey, Staal, phaneuf, spezza I bet this group can easilly matchup against players you just named, but were not selected because politics got in a way!!!!

Defend grtzky all you want, it was known to be mistake before tourney started and tournament just proved the point that you shouldn't select based on past performances its here and now thats what counts.
well we'll take that as a lesson learned and move on - we lost -

when did wayne lose two in row?

How about Darryl and Brent Sutter as GM and HC? ;)

Team Canada already has a problem scoring.

Canada probably needs a task master type coach who can really mold the team into a cohesive unit in a short period of time. A celebrity coach like Gretzky and the country club atmosphere that follows him is probably not what is needed. Maybe Mike Keenan could be good? Or Pat Burns when he gets better.

Crawford lost the 98 Olympics Keenan lost the 96 World Cup. Bowman the 81 Canada Cup. Sather lost.. ah .Quinn had three wins in a row 98 World Championship, 02 Olympics and 04 World Cup and now his 06 Olympic loss.

The problem is getting a team to play like a team on the big ice in a weeks time with one practice.

i guess - although in new york anything less than the world series is unacceptable - the last of which was 2000 - cashman is still there -

one loss and your out? - no second chance? - the best hockey man canada has ever had gets dumped after one loss?

cashman makes the playoffs ever year, and many times the finals

and wayne gretzky is FAR from the "best hockey man" canada has ever had

gretzky is a horrible hockey man; good player but bad behind the scenes

cashman makes the playoffs ever year, and many times the finals

and wayne gretzky is FAR from the "best hockey man" canada has ever had

gretzky is a horrible hockey man; good player but bad behind the scenes
on that note - goodnight now

I think some one who says that George W Bush is a great leader has a serious lack of judgment and shouldn't have anything to do running a team that represents Canada.

I can't stand Bush as much as anyone, but your argument is beyond absurd. That has nothing to do with hockey.

GM? Well maybe cuase no one will have the guts to say he failed. Coach? No way. get Bretn Sutter in there right now! He'll be in the NHL by then, and even if he isnt who cares? A guy who wins the '05 WJC its expected, but a guy who molded the '06 WJC team into champions has definetly got to be a great coach. I'd hate to say it but Sutter coaching in the '07 WJC is almost already in the bag for a Canadian gold.

I'll forgive Gretzky if he goes back to his roots. If he picks the team the way he picked '02 then we will win and have all the best players available. If he hasnt learned his lesson, and picks the Shane Doans of the world or Todd Bertuzzi's then dont waste your time Wayne!

get Bretn Sutter in there right now!

It's clear now, after all the expert pontificating, that Crosby, Staal and Spezza will solve team Canada's scoring woes...so I wonder how they will repond to Brent Sutter's demands to trap the **** out of those damn high flying ruskies?

It will be a masterpiece I tell you...

Gretzky made a huge blunder by winning the 2002 Olympic Gold, then another massive blunder by winning the 2004 World Cup. Get that Gretzky away from Team Canada, the guy produces too many winning teams!

does the same apply to Quinn?

"cashman makes the playoffs ever year, and many times the finals

and wayne gretzky is FAR from the "best hockey man" canada has ever had

gretzky is a horrible hockey man; good player but bad behind the scenes"



Dude Gretzky has more knowledge about Team Canada selections in his pinky then your have in your entire body and then some, Condemning Gretzky based on piss poor permance of the team is ludicrous. Gretzky wasnt on the Ice, and 85% of his selections were right on point. Even if 85% of the team tried Canada should have easily won this tournament. They just never tried. Quinn should be blamed because he can't coach worth shyt! Iginla should be blamed he floated around the ice the whole tournament showing absolutely no heart... How about JOE THORNTON! ...... i felt like spitting on him watching him play, ....Heatley???? Heatley who!,..Nash< this guy nees to get his head screwed on right ... cmon the team let Gretzky down, Gretzky never once let the team down

It's the equivalent of being the GM of the Yankee's, signing every best player, and not making the playoffs

If that happens, you're fired.

Yeah, beating the whole world 2/3 times, what a failure.

13-4-1

Thats just a terrible record he has as GM.

Either way, I hope they bring in one of the good Sutter boys (Daryl or Brent), they can put Babcok (sp :p: ) in there as well.

I'm informed, and agree with Gretzky, George Bush is a giant of a leader. :clap: :clap:

No, and No.

Gretzky has not shown to be a capable coach, and so far has blundered as a GM taking his "friends and veterans" first approach.

He was a great player, lets just leave it at that.

Excuse me- how has he been shown not to be a capable coach? As I remember people were not giving him any chance to last in Phoenix- that he would quit after a few weeks, month, or whatever. Guess what- he's still going strong and the team while not playing great recently has certainly played better than many experts predicted in October. For a guy who never coached, he has caught on well by all accounts and give him another season or two of coaching and he would be a great fit for coach for TC in 2010. I think he is happiest being close to the ice and players and he would not have to have the full responsibility of picking the roster- he could have input but he would not have to have the primary responsibility for that if he took the coaching duty. Whatever, Gretz has devoted too much of his time for Team Canada to completely leave it alltogether- he is needed to be part of TC and I hope he continues in some capacity- preferably as coach next time.

"cashman makes the playoffs ever year, and many times the finals

and wayne gretzky is FAR from the "best hockey man" canada has ever had

gretzky is a horrible hockey man; good player but bad behind the scenes"



Dude Gretzky has more knowledge about Team Canada selections in his pinky then your have in your entire body and then some, Condemning Gretzky based on piss poor permance of the team is ludicrous. Gretzky wasnt on the Ice, and 85% of his selections were right on point. Even if 85% of the team tried Canada should have easily won this tournament. They just never tried. Quinn should be blamed because he can't coach worth shyt! Iginla should be blamed he floated around the ice the whole tournament showing absolutely no heart... How about JOE THORNTON! ...... i felt like spitting on him watching him play, ....Heatley???? Heatley who!,..Nash< this guy nees to get his head screwed on right ... cmon the team let Gretzky down, Gretzky never once let the team down

Excuse me- how has he been shown not to be a capable coach? As I remember people were not giving him any chance to last in Phoenix- that he would quit after a few weeks, month, or whatever. Guess what- he's still going strong and the team while not playing great recently has certainly played better than many experts predicted in October. For a guy who never coached, he has caught on well by all accounts and give him another season or two of coaching and he would be a great fit for coach for TC in 2010. I think he is happiest being close to the ice and players and he would not have to have the full responsibility of picking the roster- he could have input but he would not have to have the primary responsibility for that if he took the coaching duty. Whatever, Gretz has devoted too much of his time for Team Canada to completely leave it alltogether- he is needed to be part of TC and I hope he continues in some capacity- preferably as coach next time.
i think he would be perfect - i believe his hands were somewhat tied with what he could make happen on the ice - the x's and o's of it - with the game's in vancouver and maybe the last hurrah from the nhl the drama is beautiful - it would be vintage gretzky - i cant understand the flack he's getting - the team just didnt do it - maybe some of the posters are just too young

I would choose Jacque Lemaire to handle everything for 2010. For obvious reasons.

After Gretzky finished playing he said he wouldn't coach etc...etc. He caved and Gm'd Canada in 2002. He and the team won. He got a taste again and became a owner, Gm, an ultimately coach.

That was his mistake. He had a perfect career until he put his neck on the block. He should have walked away as he had nothing left to prove.

Gretzky as a coach no way! A GM? Well like I said if he goes back to his roots in '02 then we'll win for sure. But he HAS to do that, no more stupid picks. But he's too lenient as a coach. Look, on paper we'll still have the best team in 2010, but teams arent going to be an worse by then. Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and Malkin arent going to be any worse. We may need a crane just to stop those three. So we need a "take no bull" coach. His name, again, is Brent Sutter.

Gretzky says that he takes full responsibility for his team's failure, so what's the problem?

If this is true he should resign immediately.
Get Brent Sutter in.

Gretzky says that he takes full responsibility for his team's failure, so what's the problem?

If this is true he should resign immediately.
Get Brent Sutter in.
i have no problem with brent sutter - but is winning 1 - 0 gonna do it for you?