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MightyAdam 02-23-2006, 02:50 AM Just for "what if" sake, look at who Anaheim picked in the 1995 draft. To think, they could have chosen the number 11 instead of Kilger is pretty amazing. Think Iglina would have done as well with the Ducks?
1 BERARD, Bryan D OTT Detroit
2 REDDEN, Wade D NYI Brandon
3 BERG, Aki-Petteri D LA Kiekko-67 Turku
4 KILGER, Chad C ANA Kingston
5 LANGKOW, Daymond C TB Tri-City
6 KELLY, Steve C EDM Prince Albert
7 DOAN, Shane RW WPG Kamloops
8 RYAN, Terry LW MTL Tri-City
9 MCLAREN, Kyle D HFD-BOS Tacoma
10 DVORAK, Radek LW FLA C Ceske-Budejovice
11 IGINLA, Jarome RW DAL Kamloops
12 RIIHIJARVI, Teemu RW SJ Kiekko Espoo Jr.
13 GIGUERE, J-Sebastien G NYR-HFD Halifax
14 MCKEE, Jay D VAN-BUF Niagara Falls
15 WARE, Jeff D TOR Oshawa
16 BIRON, Martin G BUF Beauport
17 CHURCH, Brad LW WSH Prince Albert
18 SYKORA, Petr C NJ Detroit
19 NABOKOV, Dmitri C CHI Krylja Sovetov
20 GAUTHIER, Denis Jr. D CGY Drummondville
21 BROWN, Sean D BOS Belleville
22 BOUCHER, Brian G PHI Tri-City
23 ELOMO, Miika LW STL-WSH Kiekko-67 Turku
24 MOROZOV, Alexei RW PIT Krylja Sovetov
25 DENIS, Marc G COL Chicoutimi
26 KUZNETSOV, Maxim D DET Dynamo Moscow
McDonald19 02-23-2006, 02:56 AM Hindsight...
Dallas was willing to part with Iginla (they refused to give up Todd Harvey) to get Nieuwendyk for a Stanley Cup run.
and Kilger was traded with Tverdovsky for Selanne so I wouldn't worry too much about the pick of Kilger.
Spankatola Jamnuts 02-23-2006, 03:22 AM Pretty good first round for goalies.
Pete Rock 02-23-2006, 04:29 AM As far as I remember, Kilger was seen as a blossoming power forward who had quick feet.
Now that I look at it, at least it's not the Ducks that have three of the biggest 1st round failures.
Aki Berg, Chad Kilger, and Jeff Ware.
TheJoeMan 02-23-2006, 04:51 AM It's not we wasted a lot of time and money on him or anything. The dude played like half a season and like McD19 said we got Teemu outta him so I'd say it was a good move. But that was 11 years ago so it's not really worth dwelling on.
That's quite a nice draft, but we didn't luck out. Simple as that. I wan't about in for drafts more than a few years ago so I've no idea what people thought of the guys back then.
MightyAdam 02-23-2006, 04:03 PM good points...Kilger is currently playing in Toronto in case anyone was wondering if he was still in the NHL
shaner89 02-23-2006, 04:30 PM what a horrible draft that was. there was about 5 good players out of 26 in the 1st rd. Iggy, Redden, nabakov, giggy, and i guess berard is decent. the rest of AWFUL. Thats gotta be one of the worst drafts
Robertsson 4-ever 02-23-2006, 04:51 PM what a horrible draft that was. there was about 5 good players out of 26 in the 1st rd. Iggy, Redden, nabakov, giggy, and i guess berard is decent. the rest of AWFUL. Thats gotta be one of the worst drafts
Well Shane Doan is a pretty good pick IMO.
Dvorak and Sykora is alos very decent players in my eyes.
Scoogs 02-23-2006, 04:55 PM what a horrible draft that was. there was about 5 good players out of 26 in the 1st rd. Iggy, Redden, nabakov, giggy, and i guess berard is decent. the rest of AWFUL. Thats gotta be one of the worst drafts
Are you blind?
Berard - Good
Redden - Great
Langkow - Good
Doan - Good
McLaren - Good
Dvorak - Good
Iginla - Great
Giggy - Great
McKee - Good
Biron - Good/Great
Sykora (Yes, THAT Sykora) - Good
Gauthier - Meh
Morozov (In Europe now.. Still good talent) - Good
Pwnasaurus 02-23-2006, 05:02 PM Doan is a better player than Redden....switch their good - great notations.
Randall Graves* 02-23-2006, 05:09 PM I wonder what HF boards would have said after the Selanne trade..
"Dude! the ducks got ripped off! they traded one of the best young defensemen and the next Cam Neely for a one year wonder!"
Scoogs 02-23-2006, 05:22 PM Doan is a better player than Redden....switch their good - great notations.
The reason I put Good is because he is having a really rough season. I know he is better than I make him out to be. But you can't compare he and Redden. Two different positions.
cheechoo14whitney 02-23-2006, 05:26 PM The reason I put Good is because he is having a really rough season. I know he is better than I make him out to be. But you can't compare he and Redden. Two different positions.
Agree. I'd say both are great players, in their own way.
Pwnasaurus 02-23-2006, 05:46 PM The reason I put Good is because he is having a really rough season. I know he is better than I make him out to be. But you can't compare he and Redden. Two different positions.
Doan is more reliable defensively. :sarcasm:
Kick Save 02-23-2006, 08:25 PM As far as I remember, Kilger was seen as a blossoming power forward who had quick feet.
Now that I look at it, at least it's not the Ducks that have three of the biggest 1st round failures.
Aki Berg, Chad Kilger, and Jeff Ware.
Berg and Kilmer weren't exactly screaming successes, but how do they merit "biggest bust" tags amongst that group? What about Steve Kelly, Terry Ryan, Teemu Riihijarvi, Brad Church or Miika Elomo? Were any of them less than "total busts"?
NotBonsignore 02-24-2006, 03:04 PM Nabakov isn't Evgeni Nabakov of San Jose... He's Dmitri Nabakov a centre... I KNOW.. WHO?
jumptheshark 03-08-2006, 11:33 AM 1 BERARD, Bryan D OTT Detroit
2 REDDEN, Wade D NYI Brandon
3 BERG, Aki-Petteri D LA Kiekko-67 Turku
4 KILGER, Chad C ANA Kingston
5 LANGKOW, Daymond C TB Tri-City
6 KELLY, Steve C EDM Prince Albert
7 DOAN, Shane RW WPG Kamloops
8 RYAN, Terry LW MTL Tri-City
9 MCLAREN, Kyle D HFD-BOS Tacoma
10 DVORAK, Radek LW FLA C Ceske-Budejovice
11 IGINLA, Jarome RW DAL Kamloops
12 RIIHIJARVI, Teemu RW SJ Kiekko Espoo Jr.
13 GIGUERE, J-Sebastien G NYR-HFD Halifax
14 MCKEE, Jay D VAN-BUF Niagara Falls
15 WARE, Jeff D TOR Oshawa
16 BIRON, Martin G BUF Beauport
17 CHURCH, Brad LW WSH Prince Albert
18 SYKORA, Petr C NJ Detroit
19 NABOKOV, Dmitri C CHI Krylja Sovetov
20 GAUTHIER, Denis Jr. D CGY Drummondville
21 BROWN, Sean D BOS Belleville
22 BOUCHER, Brian G PHI Tri-City
23 ELOMO, Miika LW STL-WSH Kiekko-67 Turku
24 MOROZOV, Alexei RW PIT Krylja Sovetov
25 DENIS, Marc G COL Chicoutimi
26 KUZNETSOV, Maxim D DET Dynamo Moscow[/QUOTE]
more misses then hits in the first round of that draft
1 BERARD, Bryan D OTT Detroit
2 REDDEN, Wade D NYI Brandon
3 BERG, Aki-Petteri D LA Kiekko-67 Turku
4 KILGER, Chad C ANA Kingston
5 LANGKOW, Daymond C TB Tri-City
6 KELLY, Steve C EDM Prince Albert
7 DOAN, Shane RW WPG Kamloops
8 RYAN, Terry LW MTL Tri-City
9 MCLAREN, Kyle D HFD-BOS Tacoma
10 DVORAK, Radek LW FLA C Ceske-Budejovice
11 IGINLA, Jarome RW DAL Kamloops
12 RIIHIJARVI, Teemu RW SJ Kiekko Espoo Jr.
13 GIGUERE, J-Sebastien G NYR-HFD Halifax
14 MCKEE, Jay D VAN-BUF Niagara Falls
15 WARE, Jeff D TOR Oshawa
16 BIRON, Martin G BUF Beauport
17 CHURCH, Brad LW WSH Prince Albert
18 SYKORA, Petr C NJ Detroit
19 NABOKOV, Dmitri C CHI Krylja Sovetov
20 GAUTHIER, Denis Jr. D CGY Drummondville
21 BROWN, Sean D BOS Belleville
22 BOUCHER, Brian G PHI Tri-City
23 ELOMO, Miika LW STL-WSH Kiekko-67 Turku
24 MOROZOV, Alexei RW PIT Krylja Sovetov
25 DENIS, Marc G COL Chicoutimi
26 KUZNETSOV, Maxim D DET Dynamo Moscow
more misses then hits in the first round of that draft
If bold is a miss, there is a total of 12. 26 - 12 = 14. 14 > 12. More hits than misses I think you'll see.
Kevin Forbes 03-08-2006, 12:56 PM 1 BERARD, Bryan D OTT Detroit
2 REDDEN, Wade D NYI Brandon
3 BERG, Aki-Petteri D LA Kiekko-67 Turku
4 KILGER, Chad C ANA Kingston
5 LANGKOW, Daymond C TB Tri-City
6 KELLY, Steve C EDM Prince Albert
7 DOAN, Shane RW WPG Kamloops
8 RYAN, Terry LW MTL Tri-City
9 MCLAREN, Kyle D HFD-BOS Tacoma
10 DVORAK, Radek LW FLA C Ceske-Budejovice
11 IGINLA, Jarome RW DAL Kamloops
12 RIIHIJARVI, Teemu RW SJ Kiekko Espoo Jr.
13 GIGUERE, J-Sebastien G NYR-HFD Halifax
14 MCKEE, Jay D VAN-BUF Niagara Falls
15 WARE, Jeff D TOR Oshawa
16 BIRON, Martin G BUF Beauport
17 CHURCH, Brad LW WSH Prince Albert
18 SYKORA, Petr C NJ Detroit
19 NABOKOV, Dmitri C CHI Krylja Sovetov
20 GAUTHIER, Denis Jr. D CGY Drummondville
21 BROWN, Sean D BOS Belleville
22 BOUCHER, Brian G PHI Tri-City
23 ELOMO, Miika LW STL-WSH Kiekko-67 Turku
24 MOROZOV, Alexei RW PIT Krylja Sovetov
25 DENIS, Marc G COL Chicoutimi
26 KUZNETSOV, Maxim D DET Dynamo Moscow
more misses then hits in the first round of that draft
How is Chad Kilger a miss and Aki Berg not one?
Evilo 03-08-2006, 01:15 PM How are Morozov and Boucher misses?
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