I actually feel bad for Canada. (never thought I would say this)

Seems to me that Canada just couldn't catch any breaks in this tournament. They had an all-star team that on paper is maybe even better than 2002. The biggest problem was surprisinlgy the goal scoring. Something that the Canadians never lacked in the past.

Yes I feel kinda bad for them, but I am sure you will rebound :clap:

I don't feel bad for Canada and I'm Canadian. They got what they deserved and the better team won. We can't win everything unfortunately but we damn well better win a medal in Vancouver 2010.

Don't feel bad, they'll bounce back I'm sure. Let some other countries fight for the gold for a change.

Don't shed any tears for these guys. I think you'll see many players bowing out of these types of tournaments in the future. They didn't have the same desire this year.

Let some other countries fight for the gold for a change.
For a change???

One, it not true
Two, it's an insult to every other hockey nation

Its true they didnt deserve to win.

It also looks like the slovaks are going out now too. I have no one to cheer for.

I feel bad for brodeur b/c he played his best game but I can still see some people ripping him.

I don't feel sorry for Canada. If they had played great hockey I would have liked to see them move on.

I feel bad for brodeur b/c he played his best game but I can still see some people ripping him.

He was by far the best canadian player this tourney. Luongo was also good.

I feel bad for brodeur b/c he played his best game but I can still see some people ripping him.

I love Brodeur and if there is one player that doesn't deserve a single bit of blame, its him. Brodeur :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

Canada vs Russia just to get into the medal round, you know someone's gonna go home extremely dissapointed. However, as a Canadian, you can't really feel sorry for us, we were the lower seeded team, we put ourselves in this situation. It should have been the Swiss going up against the powerhouse Russians in the quarterfinals, but they played their way past that.

Don't feel bad, they'll bounce back I'm sure. Let some other countries fight for the gold for a change.
Canada should've sent their B team!

We lost this tournament.

We will loose tournaments in the future.

Although I sincerely believe that the Canadians have the best talent in the world, there are clearly a lot of very good teams out there, any of whome can beat Canada fairly on any given day.

Today we lost to one such team.

I'm not sure if he actually said this, but Kurt Russel's line as Herb Brooks in Miracle sums up why Canada didn't advance. He said that he was not looking for the best players, he was looking for the right ones. The Canadian brain braintrust amassed a great wealth of talent, but not a cohesive unit. The latter is what's required in a short tournament.

From reading the Olympics forum, I take it I'm possibly the least emotionally-invested person here... but for what it's worth, I feel a modicum of despair for Canada.

No need for me to regurgitate all the valid points made re: roster choices, poor penalties, et al. ...but anyone could tell that this was a very even playing field, so going out like this is acceptable.

At the end of the day however... It's a nation that wears its heart on the sleeve of its hockey jersey that's heading home medal-less. Whether they were overwhelmed by their opponents, unprepared, indifferent or whatever... Everyone is going to be talking and hearing about this for along while to come.

this was a terrible effort in the whole tournament from the Canadian team. The Russians are amazing, especially the young guys, and I'll be cheering for them from here on.

We lost this tournament.

We will loose tournaments in the future.

Although I sincerely believe that the Canadians have the best talent in the world, there are clearly a lot of very good teams out there, any of whome can beat Canada fairly on any given day.

Today we lost to one such team.


Well said!

feel bad? for what?

after all the arrogance and insults that we've faced for years from a lot of Canadian fans, the over confidence, especially against Russia, the outcome of this game is JUSTICE

Today I believe in God and in Justice!

Canada should've sent their B team!


Selecting Tanguay, Staal, Crosby, Spezza and Phaneuf over guys like Bertuzzi, Draper, Smyth and Doan would had helped.

They did not deserve to win. Three shot outs ! Where were the scorers ? Where was the heart ?

I love Brodeur and if there is one player that doesn't deserve a single bit of blame, its him. Brodeur :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

dido.

And in reply to the thread..I would have felt bad for Canada if they played a great tournament and lost or even played a one good game against the Russians...But...Canada never deserved to win..they never played at any point like they actually wanted to win..so surely I do not feel bad for Canada...

Where was the heart ?

I hope that in the future, no Canadian will ever tell me that the Russians have not heart/play without heart/are selfish/never play as a team.

Don't feel bad, they'll bounce back I'm sure. Let some other countries fight for the gold for a change.

What do you mean, for a change? Right now, the only championships Canada owns is the World Cup (which doesn't mean a lot to many people) and the World Junior title.

Salt Lake City was Canada's first gold at the Olympics in 50 years. Canada winning WAS a change.

For a change???

One, it not true
Two, it's an insult to every other hockey nation

Maybe I should have added this, ;) ,since you seemlingly took offence . And since I'm not Canadian, I think I have the right to say so.

I'm not sure if he actually said this, but Kurt Russel's line as Herb Brooks in Miracle sums up why Canada didn't advance. He said that he was not looking for the best players, he was looking for the right ones. The Canadian brain braintrust amassed a great wealth of talent, but not a cohesive unit. The latter is what's required in a short tournament.
Clarke tried to do it in Nagano. Didn't work out too well. Last Olympics they went with the Talented squad, won it.

feel bad? for what?

after all the arrogance and insults that we've faced for years from a lot of Canadian fans, the over confidence, especially against Russia, the outcome of this game is JUSTICE

Today I believe in God and in Justice!

You seriously have a persecution complex. Not everybody's out to get you...

I'm not going to feel bad. The guys who should feel bad are the ones who disgraced the uniform they wore by getting shut out three times in four games. I'll exempt Joe Sakic for past exemplary service, Martin Brodeur for excellent play, and Roberto Luongo for having nothing to do with the losses, but just about everybody else should hang their heads in shame when they step back onto Canadian soil.

I'm pulling for Finland now. I want to see Saku Koivu take home a gold medal and then come home and light a fire under the Canadiens' *****!

Seriously, will Gretzky keep his post?
Or is he on a life-time contract?

CAN finishes 7th.
I don't know if this was foreseen even
in the wildest Canadian nightmares.

I feel kinda bad for CAN fans, but
truthfully, the real team CAN didn't
really show up in these games.

A truckload of skill, but no real spirit.
Unfortunately so.

What do you mean, for a change? Right now, the only championships Canada owns is the World Cup (which doesn't mean a lot to many people) and the World Junior title.

Salt Lake City was Canada's first gold at the Olympics in 50 years. Canada winning WAS a change.

Relax, jeeze you people are uptight. And I didn't mention them WINNING.

I hope that in the future, no Canadian will ever tell me that the Russians have not heart/play without heart/are selfish/never play as a team.


I thought the same ! Look at Ovechkin for exampe ! The whole team played with so much heart ! Im so proud ! Thank you russia !!!

I hope that in the future, no Canadian will ever tell me that the Russians have not heart/play without heart/are selfish/never play as a team.

shawn, previous WCH for example Russia have played like that, without a hear. Its not a opinion its a fact. Id give props to Ovechkin and co. who have come in and changed that way of thinking. This is the best hockey game I've seen russian players play since I saw the Canada Cup Finals from 87' on tape.

I thought the same ! Look at Ovechkin for exampe ! The whole team played with so much heart ! Im so proud ! Thank you russia !!!

I don't think anyone could ever dispute that Ovechkin of all people plays with his heart on his sleeve and is proud to play the game, nevermind just for Russia.

I do feel a little bit of pity for Canada and to some extent the fans, because while the US and Canada both underperformed and went out in the quarters, this event at the Olympics means a great deal more to Canada than it does to the US. There is national identity wrapped up in hockey in Canada like nowhere else. The second-guessing will last all of about three hours in the US and then the focus will shift to figure skating or snowboarding, or whatever other flavor of the month event happens to be on tonight.

The US brought a team expected on paper to be far inferior to that which won the silver medal in Salt Lake City, so the result doesn't really surprise anyone. For Canada to finish in essentially the same spot is going to smart, and be cause for finger pointing and hand wringing for months, perhaps years.

As mentioned, though, it won't hold a candle to the uproar if this happens again in Vancouver. Man... that would sting.

Clarke tried to do it in Nagano. Didn't work out too well. Last Olympics they went with the Talented squad, won it.
yes, but they played poorly and only won by a series of VERY fortunate events. Like Belerus beating Sweden, and Russia losing to Finland. Sweden and Russia both would have destroyed Canada, but with Russia losing and finishing 3rd, it left Finland in 2nd to face Canada in the quarters. A game canada narrowly won. Then Belerus beat Sweden giving Canada a bye into the finals. Meanwhile, in the other semi, the two top teams beat the hell out of each other for 60 minutes, and a kasparitus knee on knee took out the best player for the US in keith Tkachuck left the US team short handed and beaten up in the gold medal game. There was no way they could win. Canada won gold, but like I said, played like a 5th place team.

I hope that in the future, no Canadian will ever tell me that the Russians have not heart/play without heart/are selfish/never play as a team.Huh?
Don't paint with a wide brush..

I can give you examples of Russia not showing heart (St. Petersburg 2000), but why would you take that as an insult? Even objective Russians would tell you that this team is different than previous years, that's a good thing!

This tournament, the Russians played great, and are fully deserving of going forward, and have shown great heart. I hope they will show this type of heart in every tournament from now on!

shawn, previous WCH for example Russia have played like that, without a hear. Its not a opinion its a fact. Id give props to Ovechkin and co. who have come in and changed that way of thinking. This is the best hockey game I've seen russian players play since I saw the Canada Cup Finals from 87' on tape.Exactly!

Canada deserved to lose

Canada deserved to loseClearly the 2nd best team today...

Finally, some of the Canadians can actually get off that high horse of theirs. I'm glad Canada took a loss here, because Canada just expects to roll over the competition after that '02 Gold Medal. Everybody's learned a lesson in Hockey Canada. Perhaps.

Congrats to the Russians though, they were clearly the better team in all aspects in the QF game.

They deserved to lose, but it ******* sucks anyways.

What do you mean, for a change? Right now, the only championships Canada owns is the World Cup (which doesn't mean a lot to many people) and the World Junior title.

Salt Lake City was Canada's first gold at the Olympics in 50 years. Canada winning WAS a change.

Wait now. prior to this loss Canada had

Gold - World Juniors
Gold - World Cup
Gold - Mens Olympics
Gold - Womens Olympics
Gold - Womens World Championships
Silver - World Championships

how has Canada not been the most successful country in hockey lately?

I have to agree with many other Canadian Fans here. Team Canada never came together as a team and their early exit is well deserved because of it. Great game from the Russians. They worked hard and pulled off the win.

Go Finland! :)

Wait now. prior to this loss Canada had

Gold - World Juniors
Gold - World Cup
Gold - Mens Olympics
Gold - Womens Olympics
Gold - Womens World Championships
Silver - World Championships

how has Canada not been the most successful country in hockey lately?

As of right now, (who cares about the women? entirely different point and game altogether) Canada holds two titles, and one of them is rather meaningless, in my opinion.

They've been successful, but only for a couple years. Some people make it sound like Canada hasn't lost a tournament in the last 25 years when clearly that's wrong. Everyone around the world is jumping in joy and dancing in the streets because Canada "finally" lost.

I have only joy over Canada's loss. Their sense that it is their birthright to win every hockey tournament makes it very sweet. I can not wait to see the aftermath.

I have only joy over Canada's loss. Their sense that it is their birthright to win every hockey tournament makes it very sweet. I can not wait to see the aftermath.

It's this kind of attitude that really pisses me off. Who thinks it's their birth-right to win every tournament? They are generally regarded by the media as favourites because they have the best teams on paper and the deepest talent pool. People who understand the game know that anything can happen. Don't paint an entire country with the same brush.

Seems to me that Canada just couldn't catch any breaks in this tournament. They had an all-star team that on paper is maybe even better than 2002. The biggest problem was surprisinlgy the goal scoring. Something that the Canadians never lacked in the past.

Yes I feel kinda bad for them, but I am sure you will rebound :clap:

Seems to me that Canada just couldn't catch any breaks in this tournament. They had an all-star team that on paper is maybe even better than 2002. The biggest problem was surprisinlgy the goal scoring. Something that the Canadians never lacked in the past.

Yes I feel kinda bad for them, but I am sure you will rebound :clap:

I agree and feel a bit for Canada.
To bad that the ref disallowed that goal (horrible call) late in the third.

I am extremely ashamed of the way the Canadians played throughout this entire tournament. I'm ashamed of Gretzky in particular and also Quinn. Yes winning in 2002 was huge we had the best possible players on the team and that's how it should be. So why not go with that again? No they didnt. In '04 Gretzky picked Doan, Maltby, Draper and Morrow. Only two of them ever played but we barely won the World Cup after two close games. So why not go with the same team Wayne thought (and I'm sure Janet and Tocchet and Tocchet's bookie had an input). Wrong idea. Bertuzzi looked slow on the big ice, so did Doan, Draper was invisible and McCabe was played way too much by Quinn. Crosby was sitting at home in Nova Scotia and would have looked very good on that big ice, as would have Staal. What Canada needed was an explosive scorer. But they were either at home or on the taxi squad.

Gretzky should quietly step down IMO. No one should lose with that lineup. Quinn should step down too. If a team with that lineup doesnt win the Gold then it comes down to coaching. Quinn should also be fired from the Leafs considering the only reason he kept his job was because of this team, he failed, so he should get tossed. We relied on Mario too much in '02 and '04, therefore as a coach all Quinn had to do was open the door to the bench and close it. With no awe inspiring leader on the ice the coach was the main motivator and that is not Quinn's expertise.

Bertuzzi, well his mindless penalty led to the game winning goal. I know it sounds like sour grapes but I hope Moore sues him and takes the shirt off his back. hang your heads in shame Team Canada (minus Brodeur and Luongo, oh and Turco I guess), you have disgraced us.

We lost this tournament.

We will loose tournaments in the future.

Although I sincerely believe that the Canadians have the best talent in the world, there are clearly a lot of very good teams out there, any of whome can beat Canada fairly on any given day.

Today we lost to one such team.


Hundred percent true :clap: :clap:

If you go player by player, Canada is certainly the best.....but as a team its just a huge issue


And also, we definitely didnt get any breaks.....tons of posts, tons of rebounds shoveled wide....just not our tournament

Well on the bright side, we won't have to watch piss poor hockey from Team Canada in this tourney.

It was like watching the old 80's Nordiques play.

Kudos to the goalies. Atleast they showed up.

I don't feel bad for Canada and I'm Canadian. They got what they deserved and the better team won. We can't win everything unfortunately but we damn well better win a medal in Vancouver 2010.


You know, I have been living in Europe for some time.

People are very proud of their countries, rather, insecure and defensive...

Italy for example, what an inferiority complex..it is a joke and sad. But I digress.


I realize the Canadians booed when others played their anthem and all of that, but I tell you, I have never given that much thought...

What I do respect is how you guys (gals) respect good hockey, and are never afraid or have a problem defending good hockey no matter who it is (... usually <wink>)

In fact, you are usually the first to criticize yourselves or admit you **** up!

It shows why Canda has always been such a force.


Any Gretzky comments down the wire btw? Curious his thoughts...

..panning to him during the game, he knew it seemed. He knew they were not going to win when they were 1-0. He looked really sad if not slightly perturbed..


best regards

Everyone around the world is jumping in joy and dancing in the streets because Canada "finally" lost.


PROVE IT

For any proud nation, its a tough loss to take. Tough for fans, tough for players. Every fan thats ever been on the losing end knows what that feels like... Canada will rebound, without a doubt, I for one hope for a Russia-Canada final in the next Olympics. Ovechkin/Malkin vs. Crosby and the gang - there is something to look forward to!

I don't feel bad for Canada and I'm Canadian. They got what they deserved and the better team won.

Agree totally.

The good thing is that maybe this will take the overzealous fanboys down a peg. There's been far too much "Guaranteed Medal" and "Who'll finish 2nd" stuff going on.

This is what makes me feel bad:

Olympics Medal Count (Feb 22)
# Country T
1 Germany 9 8 5 22
2 Austria 8 6 5 19
3 United States 7 7 4 18
4 Canada 5 8 5 18
5 Norway 2 8 8 18
6 Russia 7 3 6 16

Our athletes are having an oustanding Olympics from our amateur athletes, currently tied for 3rd in the medal count. The "Pro's" from the NHL should be a lock for a medal, which would boost us to be tied for 2nd place... but they choke, just like back in Nagano in the Bronze medal game.

I don't

I don't feel bad for Canada and I'm Canadian. They got what they deserved and the better team won. We can't win everything unfortunately but we damn well better win a medal in Vancouver 2010.

Being an American was hoping Canada would have gotten the gold. As far as the Vancouver I just hope the fans there show the world athletes the respect they deserve. That those that acted badly during the most recent WJC will actually put their feelings aside a treat these athletes with grace. I always respected Canadians growing up in Niagara Falls felt canadians are nicest people in the world. I was trully dissappointed in the treatment(by some/maybe most but not all) they showed the american teenagers. I hope they come through and show the whole world the class people that I know they are.

Its kinda good for hockey though, last time all north american final, this year will be all Europe, maybe even Sweden-Finland final, kinda cool.

I found myself doing something today that I never thought I would, cheering for the US, not against the Fins, but after the US got the 4-minute high stick that wasn't really a penalty, I really wanted them to rebound. I don't like injustice in hockey.

I was watching Canada throughout this tournament and it just never gelled for them. They had great players but somehow they just couldn't play as 1 unit, or a team. But I'm sure they'll be back with a vengence in their own home turf in Vancover!

I sympathize more with the Americans than with the Canadians. The Yanks put up a fight from game one to game six. That they weren't able to finish is the effect of poor roster selection--not the players on the ice. Canada, however, played defense first for about, what, at least eighty percent of today's game. There was little urgency; very little heart. You're not beating Russia anytime soon by defending against a constant offensive onslaught. They also have a tough defense (in terms of physical play) and exceptional goaltending. Defense won't get you through that.

Hell, even I'll cop to a little schadenfreude. Some Canadian fans can be downright obnoxious in victory, and the whole "this is OUR game" rhetoric is a bit ridiculous.

But in the end, it's just a freakin' game. How the Canadian team fares in the Olympics doesn't define Canada as a hockey nation, and it's hardly cause for so much gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair. Get over it, already. Tomorrow's another day.

I sympathize more with the Americans than with the Canadians. The Yanks put up a fight from game one to game six. That they weren't able to finish is the effect of poor roster selection--not the players on the ice. Canada, however, played defense first for about, what, at least eighty percent of today's game. There was little urgency; very little heart. You're not beating Russia anytime soon by defending against a constant offensive onslaught. They also have a tough defense (in terms of physical play) and exceptional goaltending. Defense won't get you through that.

I don't know who's tough defense you're referring to because all the Canadian d-men did throughout the tournament was to take stupid penalties at innoportune moments. Though I gotta give it to the other teams though, they played with heart, pride and grit, something us Canadians supposedly have plenty of.

I don't know who's tough defense you're referring to because all the Canadian d-men did throughout the tournament was to take stupid penalties at innoportune moments. Though I gotta give it to the other teams though, they played with heart, pride and grit, something us Canadians supposedly have plenty of.

I didn't mean that they played tough defensively. I meant to say that the Canadian team placed too much emphasis on defense. So, even if the players did play tough defensively, it wouldn't have been enough to overpower the Russians.

I was about to post this in the Gretzky thread that was just deleted:

I don't see how anyone can blame Gretzky or single out any players from Canada. The entire team was out of sync for the entire tournament.
Almost every game was like watching - and I hate to bring this up and sound like a pompous a-hole by ripping on my own team - the Vancouver Canucks play when they don't play up to their level; very little puck possession, very few legitimate scoring chances; again, very little puck possesion and trouble making passes to each other; individual players with weak attempts at making stuff happen on their own. All along, they didn't play as a team and were disappointing to watch.

I don't feel bad for Canada....they won gold 4 years ago.
Can't win every time out, or people would be whining and moaning about the games not being competitive(see hockey, womens)
Canada played a very good team. They lost. These things happen. Players/fans feel badly about it, but someone was bound to no matter what.

The one thing I do feel bad that some fans will try to use this as another reason to proclaim Joe Sakic isn't a good leader.

For any proud nation, its a tough loss to take. Tough for fans, tough for players. Every fan thats ever been on the losing end knows what that feels like... Canada will rebound, without a doubt, I for one hope for a Russia-Canada final in the next Olympics. Ovechkin/Malkin vs. Crosby and the gang - there is something to look forward to!

Russia about to take it up from really good to scary good in 2010.

I don't feel bad i'm glad that Russia the better team this tourny gets to move onto the semis.

You can't really feel bad for us. We have won our fair share of tournaments, and then some. While I still believe that we would beat them in a seven game series nine times out of ten, the Russians did deserve to win this game.

No one should feel bad for Canada, they showed no desire at all and deserve to be out of the tourney. pathetic :shakehead

feel bad? for what?

after all the arrogance and insults that we've faced for years from a lot of Canadian fans, the over confidence, especially against Russia, the outcome of this game is JUSTICE

Today I believe in God and in Justice!

You really are Shawn Kemp aren't you? If not, you must share the same dope man.

You really are Shawn Kemp aren't you? If not, you must share the same dope man.

DF, weren't you active on the Cyber-NHL forums?

DF, weren't you active on the Cyber-NHL forums?

The one in the same :) who might you be?

This is what makes me feel bad:

Olympics Medal Count (Feb 22)
# Country T
1 Germany 9 8 5 22
2 Austria 8 6 5 19
3 United States 7 7 4 18
4 Canada 5 8 5 18
5 Norway 2 8 8 18
6 Russia 7 3 6 16

Our athletes are having an oustanding Olympics from our amateur athletes, currently tied for 3rd in the medal count. The "Pro's" from the NHL should be a lock for a medal, which would boost us to be tied for 2nd place... but they choke, just like back in Nagano in the Bronze medal game.That makes me feel good. This is Canadas best winter olympics ever, even without the sport we are supposedly worlds best in.

The one thing I do feel bad that some fans will try to use this as another reason to proclaim Joe Sakic isn't a good leader.

Its not that I think he isn't a good leader, he's just too quiet for me

That makes me feel good. This is Canadas best winter olympics ever, even without the sport we are supposedly worlds best in.

We're guaranteed 19, because Gushue is going for gold in curling.

Canada in '98 was an arrogant team. But it was also an awesome team that could only be stopped by a brick wall named Hasek. It was, to a European an enjoyment that Canada didn't win simply because they were so arrogant before the games. Canada learnt and were a team that in Salt Lake could step up when needed, and had they faced Sweden/Russia in the final, they still would have won. They were at that point a notch above.

Canada in 06 was a team lacking something. I can't quite put my finger to it. But one thing I do think and thats that leaving Paul Kariya out of a big ice competition was a big mistake. Kariya to me a is a guy who seems incontainable on the big ice, he benefits so much from the extra space.

Defence was slow, lacked that 5th gear. For example the US were in trouble when Finland played at full pace, when they let up they negated that speed difference as they didn't utilise it. Canada imho lacked that option, the option of speeding it up and trying to simply outskate the other guy.

Crosby is a guy in hindsight I'dve taken. Earlier I thought no. Now, I think Canada lacked that unpredictability that a player like Crosby can bring to the table. Turn around and create magic. There was nobody doing that for Canada now. There was no Gretzky (98) Lemiuex (02) who had to be watched at all times because all of a sudden they could do something you coudn't think of..

I hope that in the future, no Canadian will ever tell me that the Russians have not heart/play without heart/are selfish/never play as a team.
You have to admit that Russia does often play with less determination than Canada. That doesn't mean that it's always the case.

I'm not going to feel bad. The guys who should feel bad are the ones who disgraced the uniform they wore by getting shut out three times in four games. I'll exempt Joe Sakic for past exemplary service, Martin Brodeur for excellent play, and Roberto Luongo for having nothing to do with the losses, but just about everybody else should hang their heads in shame when they step back onto Canadian soil.
You have to forgive Marty Turco too :D.

shawn, previous WCH for example Russia have played like that, without a hear. Its not a opinion its a fact. Id give props to Ovechkin and co. who have come in and changed that way of thinking. This is the best hockey game I've seen russian players play since I saw the Canada Cup Finals from 87' on tape.
Yeah, Ovechkin changed the face of Russia.

Well on the bright side, we won't have to watch piss poor hockey from Team Canada in this tourney.

It was like watching the old 80's Nordiques play.

Kudos to the goalies. Atleast they showed up.
Oh that is so true. I've never felt so desperate, disapointed and frustrated as during this tournament. It was excruciating watching them try to score on Switzerland (:shakehead) and Finland. Against Russia, it was a little better but still useless.

Being an American was hoping Canada would have gotten the gold. As far as the Vancouver I just hope the fans there show the world athletes the respect they deserve. That those that acted badly during the most recent WJC will actually put their feelings aside a treat these athletes with grace. I always respected Canadians growing up in Niagara Falls felt canadians are nicest people in the world. I was trully dissappointed in the treatment(by some/maybe most but not all) they showed the american teenagers. I hope they come through and show the whole world the class people that I know they are.


Yeah and look how Jack Johnson disrespected Downey after he scored a goal. That's the only freaking player that crowd booed and for good reason. He didn't show any sportsmanship at all. He hit Downey for no reason.

The only one I feel bad for is Wayne Gretzky. The guy poured his heart and soul into the team and his country, and he's going to get a large part of the blame for it when I would blame the players and coaches first and foremost.

Overall, I don't feel bad for Canadian fans at all. They had their glory in 2002 and they'll have plenty of other chances in future tournies.