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Finnpin 02-22-2006, 06:04 AM Finland is the favourite. If Niittymäki is good and they can get the game flying right away and 1st line is in shape this should be a win. If USA can get the Finns speed away and stay out of the box they have a chance. But still it will be a close game and everything can happen. I say 3-2 or 3-1 to Finland.
Finnish coach wants more goals from Olli Jokinen and the whole 2nd line. (J.Jokinen and Peltonen) I agree, we need goals from others too. Can the 1st line fly in every game?
Let's see BRING IT ON! :yo:
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 06:15 AM 2-1 Finland.
Can't wait the game.
Hensta 02-22-2006, 06:16 AM Its Playoff time! Speedy Fins against Good OLD USA. Tough one but I trust our first line, Niittymäki and solid defence. 3-0!!
Comoon Guys!!! SUOMI SUOMI SUOMI!!! :yo:
Zambonidriver² 02-22-2006, 06:24 AM Achillee's heel? Finns 2nd line. Peltonen and J.Jokinen are like replicas of each others. There should be one grinder, or some energetic forward like Hagman there, to make that line actually work like it should. J.Jokinen does not shoot, at all, and his speed is way too slow. Peltonen seems to be rather weak with the puck, but he's good in forecheck. So, swap Hagman to 2nd, put J.Jokinen on 3rd with Kapanen and Laaksonen.
Bench Hentunen.
There we'd have somewhat better lineup for this game.
1st line might be extra cautiously guarded, for a reason.
US game yesterday, seemed a lot better than any of their earlier in the starting round. They oughta be ready for a win as well, unless they're starting with Esche.
NO predictions for score, I never get 'em right anyways... :sarcasm:
Jimmi Jenkins 02-22-2006, 06:29 AM Dumb question, but
what does Suomi mean? (in english)
I'm Canadian and not fluent in Finnish in anyway. Thanks in Advance
Hows the atmosphere in Finland?
I heard you commenators were saying that Sweden intentionally missed shots ect. against Switzerland. Thats just ridicoulus. They didn't come to play but saying that they intentionally missed shots is just made up BS.
The only reason I can come up with that is that Finland are extremely nervous of loosing in the QF?
Just asking because I am planning on making a big big bet on USA?
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 06:31 AM what does Suomi mean? (in english)
Finland.
isanta 02-22-2006, 06:31 AM Dumb question, but
what does Suomi mean? (in english)
I'm Canadian and not in any way fluent in Finnish in anyway. Thanks in Advance
Suomi means Finland :teach:
nik jr 02-22-2006, 06:32 AM Achillee's heel? Finns 2nd line. Peltonen and J.Jokinen are like replicas of each others. There should be one grinder, or some energetic forward like Hagman there, to make that line actually work like it should. J.Jokinen does not shoot, at all, and his speed is way too slow. Peltonen seems to be rather weak with the puck, but he's good in forecheck. So, swap Hagman to 2nd, put J.Jokinen on 3rd with Kapanen and Laaksonen.
Bench Hentunen.
There we'd have somewhat better lineup for this game.
1st line might be extra cautiously guarded, for a reason.
US game yesterday, seemed a lot better than any of their earlier in the starting round. They oughta be ready for a win as well, unless they're starting with Esche.
NO predictions for score, I never get 'em right anyways... :sarcasm:
but in that game vs russia, russia wasn't trying hard. if finns keep playing same way, w/ strong D, few penalties, good PP, they should win.
3-0 suomi!
Padawan 02-22-2006, 06:33 AM Too slow...
Anyway, this a huge game. Not only Team USA gets it's rematch but Team Finland losing would be a big disappointment. Still, quite possible. Both teams want to win of course. Which team wants it more, wins. There's no big skill difference but with Finland being a slight favorite to win I'd expect a good game with Team Finland slightly controlling the game.
Jimmi Jenkins 02-22-2006, 06:35 AM Thank you very much. I thought as much, but I wasn't totally sure. Thank you again, and please crush the US, they don't deserve to be where they are.
Edit: It's pronunced Suomi [SOO-oh-mee], right? Thanks
SChan* 02-22-2006, 06:36 AM I think USA takes this.
Finnpin 02-22-2006, 06:42 AM Hows the atmosphere in Finland?
I heard you commenators were saying that Sweden intentionally missed shots ect. against Switzerland. Thats just ridicoulus. They didn't come to play but saying that they intentionally missed shots is just made up BS.
The only reason I can come up with that is that Finland are extremely nervous of loosing in the QF?
Just asking because I am planning on making a big big bet on USA?
Atmosphere is ok and we believe in our team more than ever...and were are not EXTREMELY nervous maybe just nervous like always in these games.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 06:45 AM Thank you very much. I thought as much, but I wasn't totally sure. Thank you again, and please crush the US, they don't deserve to be where they are.
Edit: It's pronunced Suomi [SOO-oh-mee], right? Thanks
No, it's pronounced how it's written: SUO-MI
Jimmi Jenkins 02-22-2006, 06:45 AM Ok, thank you muchly
Finnpin 02-22-2006, 06:51 AM No, it's pronounced how it's written: SUO-MI
[SOO-oh-mee] sounds like it should be. SAOUMAI doesn't sound like Finnish :D
Finnswiss 02-22-2006, 06:54 AM Achillee's heel? Finns 2nd line. Peltonen and J.Jokinen are like replicas of each others. There should be one grinder, or some energetic forward like Hagman there, to make that line actually work like it should. J.Jokinen does not shoot, at all, and his speed is way too slow. Peltonen seems to be rather weak with the puck, but he's good in forecheck. So, swap Hagman to 2nd, put J.Jokinen on 3rd with Kapanen and Laaksonen.
Bench Hentunen.
There we'd have somewhat better lineup for this game.
1st line might be extra cautiously guarded, for a reason.
US game yesterday, seemed a lot better than any of their earlier in the starting round. They oughta be ready for a win as well, unless they're starting with Esche.
NO predictions for score, I never get 'em right anyways... :sarcasm:
Sorry, but I really don't know what some people have against V. Peltonen or J. Jokinen. Peltonen is at least able to score or to give intelligent passes for others also J. Jokinen. You only have to check the player statistic of team Finland to see who is bad.
In my opinion J. Ruutu has nothing to do in the finnish national team. Almost all forwards in the finnish national team have scoring points or assists points at least or a +balance when they are on the ice, only J. Ruutu, J. Hentunen, A. Laaksonen and M. Koivu not. J. Ruutu is only the "king of penalties by the Finns.
OilerOlli* 02-22-2006, 06:55 AM It will be a close one. But I guess 3:1 Finland.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 06:55 AM In canadian accent [SOO-oh-mee] sounds like it should be. SAOUMAI doesn't sound like Finnish :D
Yeah, and maybe Niittymäki should change his name to Nittimayki. :sarcasm:
The best one I've seen is Ninnimatti. :biglaugh:
Raimo Sillanpää 02-22-2006, 07:08 AM Achillee's heel? Finns 2nd line. Peltonen and J.Jokinen are like replicas of each others. There should be one grinder, or some energetic forward like Hagman there, to make that line actually work like it should. J.Jokinen does not shoot, at all, and his speed is way too slow. Peltonen seems to be rather weak with the puck, but he's good in forecheck. So, swap Hagman to 2nd, put J.Jokinen on 3rd with Kapanen and Laaksonen.
Bench Hentunen.
There we'd have somewhat better lineup for this game.
1st line might be extra cautiously guarded, for a reason.
US game yesterday, seemed a lot better than any of their earlier in the starting round. They oughta be ready for a win as well, unless they're starting with Esche.
NO predictions for score, I never get 'em right anyways... :sarcasm:
Hagman?
You suggest swopping a guy who won't shoot for a guy who can't shoot?
Hagman has gotten himself into scoring positions several times in this tournament and has been incapable of shooting and scoring.
His only hope of scoring would be if the atoms of the puck perfectly aligned themselves with those of the goalie and flew straight through him. The chance of that is 1 in thirty trillion billion or something.
I think USA takes this.
Didn't think you were a Finland hater :amazed:
Finnpin 02-22-2006, 07:16 AM I'm sure Uusis can play hockey too...with him the gold would be ours and this game too! :sarcasm:
http://www.uusis.youaremighty.com/
http://fatali.servebeer.com/~ilkka/idoli.html
Steve L* 02-22-2006, 07:21 AM Its a shame Esche isnt playing because it would have been great to see Frank beat him and take the #1 spot on the Flyers.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 07:22 AM Didn't think you were a Finland hater :amazed:
That doesn't mean he's a Finland hater.
Atmosphere is ok and we believe in our team more than ever...and were are not EXTREMELY nervous maybe just nervous like always in these games.
Thanks, maybe it was just the announcers who have gotten the Olympic fever.
Finnswiss 02-22-2006, 07:28 AM Finland is the favourite. If Niittymäki is good and they can get the game flying right away and 1st line is in shape this should be a win. If USA can get the Finns speed away and stay out of the box they have a chance. But still it will be a close game and everything can happen. I say 3-2 or 3-1 to Finland.
Finnish coach wants more goals from Olli Jokinen and the whole 2nd line. (J.Jokinen and Peltonen) I agree, we need goals from others too. Can the 1st line fly in every game?
Let's see BRING IT ON! :yo:
Yes, I hope that J. Jokinen and Peltonen scores more, although they already have scoring points. But so far Finland depends too much on T. Selänne, S. Koivu, J. Lehtinen and O. Jokinen.
That doesn't mean he's a Finland hater.
All I know is that atleast every public Swede always supports Finland while YLE announcers makes things up to drag Swedes in the mud. Guess its the little brother complex... :shakehead
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 07:35 AM All I know is that atleast every public Swede always supports Finland while YLE announcers makes things up to drag Swedes in the mud. Guess its the little brother complex... :shakehead
What the hell are you talking about? What has YLE announcers done to "make things up to drag Swedes in the mud"?
Raimo Sillanpää 02-22-2006, 07:40 AM All I know is that atleast every public Swede always supports Finland while YLE announcers makes things up to drag Swedes in the mud. Guess its the little brother complex... :shakehead
??
Every Fifa World Cup the YLE announcers tell us to support our neighbours (Sweden).. every world cup.
I still root for Italy.
psycho_dad 02-22-2006, 07:41 AM Hows the atmosphere in Finland?
I heard you commenators were saying that Sweden intentionally missed shots ect. against Switzerland. Thats just ridicoulus. They didn't come to play but saying that they intentionally missed shots is just made up BS.
The only reason I can come up with that is that Finland are extremely nervous of loosing in the QF?
Just asking because I am planning on making a big big bet on USA?
Yes, our announcers play in Team Finland so put all your savings on USA because they sure are nervous!! :sarcasm:
Honestly, the game last night looked like Sweden was trying to miss shots and especially on the 5 on 3 powerplay they kept passing the puck from almost certain scoring positions. And kept coughing up the puck in the neutral zone and their defensive zone.
Sweden tanked that game on purpose, but can anyone blame them? They had a chance to pick Switzerland, anyone would have done the same.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 07:44 AM ??
Every Fifa World Cup the YLE announcers tell us to support our neighbours (Sweden).. every world cup.
I still root for Italy.
And it's pretty obvious that Mertaranta always supports Sweden when Finland is not playing. He tries to be objective, but it isn't very hard to notice that he's 'cheering for' Sweden.
And it's pretty obvious that Mertaranta always supports Sweden when Finland is not playing. He tries to be objective, but it isn't very hard to notice that he's 'cheering for' Sweden.
More to the point: I like him as an announcer, but he just doesn't know hockey well. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously. The stuff about Swedes shooting three meters wide from tow meters was funny though, as was Modin "falling" on a partial breakaway and Tellan getting a "careless" penalty right after for shooting the puck out of the rink.
Leo Naphta 02-22-2006, 07:49 AM The USA is the only big7 team that has managed to play worse than Sweden so far, so Finland should win easily.
But then again, one should never count the americans out.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 07:50 AM More to the point: I like him as an announcer, but he just doesn't know hockey well. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
I agree. Even though his hockey knowledge isn't very good, he's still the best announcer we have.
One thing about USA is that they are fast, I think their highly mobile defence is better suited against the Finns than say Canada's is. Should be a good, thight game.
Legionnaire 02-22-2006, 07:57 AM I'll be shocked if this isn't a shut-out for Finland. They may not score a whole bunch, but shut down the US's anemic offense they will.
I'm going to say 4-0 final.
The FIN 3rd line of Pikkuhakki-Kapanen-Nemo
has picked up their game a little bit. I'd say they
could step up in this game too.
Of course Teemu-Saku-Jere is the most dangerous
one, Ville-OJ-JJ should start finding the net a little
more often and hopefully even the "chain gang" with
Laaksonen-MKoivu-Ruutu can put pressure on the
US defense. Hentunen starts as the 13th warrior today.
Def looks like this:
Timonen-Numminen
Nummelin-Salo
Berg-Lydi
And AJ as the 7th D.
Sami Salo scores today?
NYIsles1* 02-22-2006, 08:05 AM USA 3, Finland 2...
DiPietro steals game for USA ...
MartinFr 02-22-2006, 08:06 AM Finland will take this one, but USA is not a easy game...I say 4-2 Finland.
Roger's Pancreas* 02-22-2006, 08:13 AM The USA is the only big7 team that has managed to play worse than Sweden so far, so Finland should win easily.
But then again, one should never count the americans out.
Statistically yes, but I think that USA has atleast tried for night in and night out. They just don't have the skill to capitalize on the chances they generate, unlike Sweden.
My prediction: Finland 3 USA 1 (we haven't been shutout yet!)
That doesn't mean he's a Finland hater.
I guess I should have added a :sarcasm: to my post, cause that's what I meant..
SChan* 02-22-2006, 08:28 AM What the hell are you talking about? What has YLE announcers done to "make things up to drag Swedes in the mud"?
wasn't it the YLE announcers that had a source that Forsberg couldn't play in olympics?
Hooey 02-22-2006, 08:29 AM <---- I'm hoping the power of my avitar will push us over the top!
USA. USA. USA.
Hooey 02-22-2006, 08:31 AM DiPietro steals game for USA ...
That would be nice. We need one of those...
It would be a bit odd if the USA were to win and be in the top 4 with just one win the entire tournament.. But hey, this is elimination hockey. Bring it on! Go Finland :yo:
wasn't it the YLE announcers that had a source that Forsberg couldn't play in olympics?
It was a rumour going around the olympic village. The announcer (Mertaranta) was just repeating what he heard. He didn't make up anything. Chill.
Hooey 02-22-2006, 08:37 AM It would be a bit odd if the USA were to win and be in the top 4 with just one win the entire tournament.
It wouldn't be the Olympics if it were any other way.
So much of the olympics are about rising to the occasion when the gold is on the line, and so little is about cumulative play.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 08:44 AM wasn't it the YLE announcers that had a source that Forsberg couldn't play in olympics?
As TK79 said, that's what they heard. It' doesn't make them Sweden haters. :shakehead
ParisSaintGermain 02-22-2006, 08:44 AM I see the special teams as the key to victory. The USA powerplay looked very good last night against Russia. But Finland is generally disciplined. I really expect a tight game.
hifk88 02-22-2006, 08:44 AM I would say....
Finland 3-1 USA
Every Fifa World Cup the YLE announcers tell us to support our neighbours (Sweden).. every world cup.
Yeah and I in someway likes it when Finland plays well. We as hockey nations are in the same postition.
But I talked with a friend last night who saw the game on YLE and he said the commentators where babbling all night on how Swedes missed shots on purpose ect. They also keept it up on the press conferance. Thats ridiculos, and the reason I got pissed.
kimbe66 02-22-2006, 09:03 AM If my team (the Finns) played like they have played so far, this should be a victory for us. But then again the team USA can play very good play off hockey. So I'm not guessing any scores but I'll be watching the game very intensively. Thank God YLE will show the whole match direct from Torino.
It will be important for both teams that their goalies make the important saves. I don't think there will be so many shots against either of them, so they can't let any easy shots go into the net.
I'm cheering for Finland!!
Brooklyndevil 02-22-2006, 09:05 AM USA needs to take the lead so the Finns don't fall back and play their intense traping system. 3-2 USA.
wildone26* 02-22-2006, 09:14 AM If Finland plays as well as they have so far USA does not have a hope. They were very overrated before this event IMO.
Herby 02-22-2006, 09:22 AM If Finland plays as well as they have so far USA does not have a hope. They were very overrated before this event IMO.
How was the US overrated?
Everyone on this board dragged the team through the mud.
Its obvious that so far through the prelims that Canada and The Czech Republic are the two most overrated teams coming into this tourney.
If Finland plays as well as they have so far USA does not have a hope. They were very overrated before this event IMO.
What I don't get is why they have dinosaurs like D. Hatcher and Chelios on the team. It's painfully obvious these guys are way too slow to play on the big ice.
Tuggy 02-22-2006, 09:29 AM I don't see anyway that the US can win this game. They are going to have a very tough time stopping the speed and creativity of the Finnish forwards. Also I don't see the Amercians being able to create much offense. They will likely be shutout or held to 1 goal.
100mph slapshot 02-22-2006, 09:31 AM Our forwards should definitely go out and constantly challenge Hatcher and Chelious, maybe Schneider too. This is our key to victory. There's no way in heck guys like Hatcher can stop our offense.
But of course it all comes down to goaltending. We really seem to struggle with that in every sudden death-situation. Just remember Noronen against Canada in '04 WC. His weak performance pissed me off for weeks. :cry:
If Niittymäki wins this game, I'll drink to his honor until I pass out. Go Antero!!! :handclap:
mattihp 02-22-2006, 09:54 AM I think it's possibly Nieminen could play on the second line, he seemed to click with OJ... But I like that line, except that none of Ville, Olli or Jussi seems to go straight for the net... Too much passing game... Now in playoffs it's important to have more than one effective line.
This will be a hard game, The US always seems to bring out their strongest play against Finland.
The word Suomi for the country of Finland has a couple of theories about it's origin.
One is it that it's from the Sápmi word for Land of Sápmi (easily enough, the word is Sápmi, and is pronounced almost like Suomi, and it could have developed with the finnish language). Or that it's from the old-old-karelian word for storyland which should be almost like Suomi.
Guys like Gionta, Gomez and Rolston are the key to US victory. NONE of Niemi, Nummelin nor Berg should be played when these guys are on the ice.
SuomiOlli 02-22-2006, 10:00 AM I think it will be a 3-0 Suomi shutout.
Nieminen, Selanne and Koivu with the goals.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 10:03 AM I can't wait, I'm so nervous. :help:
mattihp 02-22-2006, 10:06 AM I am extremely nervous... I've got all the players on my trading cards lined up on my floor :$
Any way to follow it online per text at least since foreign internet traffic caused Yle to stop their online video?
Rabid Ranger 02-22-2006, 10:10 AM What I don't get is why they have dinosaurs like D. Hatcher and Chelios on the team. It's painfully obvious these guys are way too slow to play on the big ice.
IMO Hatcher in particular has played well. He's been a bit undisciplined at times, but he hasn't been burned like many predicted. In reality, the defense as a whole has been fine. Scoring has been the main problem.
Takeo 02-22-2006, 10:12 AM I'll follow the game with disinterested curiousity. I don't have any confidence in the Americans, haven't since the rosters were released, but hey you never know. Go USA!
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 10:12 AM I am extremely nervous... I've got all the players on my trading cards lined up on my floor :$
Any way to follow it online per text at least since foreign internet traffic caused Yle to stop their online video?
http://cgi.nos.nl/cgi/nosrtv/channelinfo/
Maybe this site will show the game.
Rabid Ranger 02-22-2006, 10:13 AM Here's my prediction: If the U.S. can harness the goal scoring in it's game against Russia and the defense and goaltending in it's games against Sweden and Slovakia AT THE SAME TIME, it will win. Otherwise, I'm looking at a 3-2 Finland victory.
Faaxinho 02-22-2006, 10:14 AM This is the kind of game where Nieminen and Ruutu are needed the most, to irritate the americans and to stir opponents game.
I say 3-1 or 4-1 to Finland.
Matti_A 02-22-2006, 10:19 AM I am already shaking.
I have a bad feeling about this game. I feel we have dodged the bullet so far, but today we will lose i'm afraid.
USA looked deadly against Russia and today they actually have a real goalie between the pipes.
Roger's Pancreas* 02-22-2006, 10:24 AM This is the kind of game where Nieminen and Ruutu are needed the most, to irritate the americans and to stir opponents game.
I say 3-1 or 4-1 to Finland.
I don't think this is the type of team that's going to get off it's game. Call it a hunch.
BlackLabel 02-22-2006, 10:24 AM I am already shaking.
I have a bad feeling about this game. I feel we have dodged the bullet so far, but today we will lose i'm afraid.
USA looked deadly against Russia and today they actually have a real goalie between the pipes.
Actually I have a bad feeling about this game too. I don't know how, but I have a feeling that we will lose this one. :(
Hooey 02-22-2006, 10:24 AM I don't see anyway that the US can win this game. They are going to have a very tough time stopping the speed and creativity of the Finnish forwards.
Are you kidding? If anything, they have a team of guys who's careers are built on shutting talented players down. Shutting Finland down isn't a concern; it's scoring their own goals.
SmokeyClause 02-22-2006, 10:25 AM IMO Hatcher in particular has played well. He's been a bit undisciplined at times, but he hasn't been burned like many predicted. In reality, the defense as a whole has been fine. Scoring has been the main problem.
Agreed. I have been very impressed with Hatcher. If the U.S. is to win, he'll have to play a major role in shutting down the top Finnish line.
DownFromNJ 02-22-2006, 10:27 AM I think Finland peaked a little early. Or I am hoping that Finland peaked a little early. USA looked great (besides Esche) yesterday against Russia.
3-2 USA, shootout victory!
#11 Saku Koivu 02-22-2006, 10:33 AM I think Finland peaked a little early. Or I am hoping that Finland peaked a little early. USA looked great (besides Esche) yesterday against Russia.
3-2 USA, shootout victory!
I hope you realize that if the game goes to a shootout, Finland can't lose. Jussi Jokinen doesn't miss. Ever.
That said, GO GO SUOMI!!!
I've been hoping for a Canada - Finland finals, with other choices being Canada - Russia or Canada - USA, so it sucks that NONE of those are possible, but at least we'll get treated to some good games today and Friday!
Final Score: Finland 4 - USA 2.
Koivu, Selanne, Oli J (x2)
Jyssy 02-22-2006, 10:36 AM Somehow i smell a victory for US... Still Go SUOMI GO!!
Snap Wilson 02-22-2006, 10:36 AM U.S.A.!!! U.S.A.!!!
Cheering for an upset here, but if Finland wins, I'll be rooting them on the rest of the way. Which means they're doomed. Sorry, Finns.
Ross MacLochness 02-22-2006, 10:47 AM Watch channel is this game on in Canada. TSN has Sweden-Swiss scheduled at 11:00.
Nihilism 02-22-2006, 10:48 AM Go Finland!
Go Swiss!
Go Canada!
Lupul* 02-22-2006, 10:59 AM Go USA!!!
It's hard to root against Niittymaki, but I really want to see USA advance! :jump:
Kozak72 02-22-2006, 11:06 AM Is there any audio links for this game or not even?
Labs 4 Vezina 02-22-2006, 11:11 AM The game is at 11 E.T. right? They keep showing womens ice dancing on USA..
Lupul* 02-22-2006, 11:13 AM The game is at 11 E.T. right?
11:30 according to TSN.
zarathustra1900 02-22-2006, 11:26 AM http://cgi.nos.nl/cgi/nosrtv/channelinfo/
Maybe this site will show the game.
I live in Italy, and have tried this site apparently within the Netherlands and states I am unable to view it as I am out of their territory?!
Someone said TSN yesterday, but I could not find location for radio link..I searched everywhere...
if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated....Italians are so freakin insecure..if they are not in it, they don't play it...among other things.
I hope I will be wrong, but just in case...
please post it if you know..I am on dial up.
Many thanks!!!
Let's go America!
I'm not confident, but I'll hope.
BTW, how did we Anglicize Suomi into "Finland"...they're not even close to each other..
CUBErt 02-22-2006, 11:31 AM Seems like a fair numer of posters on the Finnish board (Jatkoaika) think that the only way the US can win this one is if the Canadian :eek: referee hands the game to them. :shakehead While I don't agree with this assessment at all, I do think the US obviously faces an uphill battle. At this stage of the tournament I don't think Finland will be beaten at it's own game very easily, but if Laviolette has managed to come up with an appropriate and efficient gameplan (one that shuts down the Koivu line), I can see the US pulling an upset. You never know.
Only a few more minutes before the puck hits the ice. Fasten your seat belts, boys and girls! :handclap:
mattihp 02-22-2006, 11:32 AM Let's go America!
I'm not confident, but I'll hope.
BTW, how did we Anglicize Suomi into "Finland"...they're not even close to each other..
The name Finland is by far older for the nation, dating back to the latin name "Finlandia", meaning "Country of those who move around", which was referring to the Fenni people (who were made up mostly by tavastians).
The name Suomi, or even the thought of having the different regions and different finnish tribes, or peoples together under an own name is "new", as it was formed as earliest in the 1830's and the name Suomi first occuring as a name for all the regions in the 1870's, and established as a finnish official name for the region some 10 years earlier, and further established with the independence in 1917.
Steve L* 02-22-2006, 11:36 AM The name Finland is by far older for the nation, dating back to the latin name "Finlandia", meaning "Country of those who move around", which was referring to the Fenni people (who were made up mostly by tavastians).
The name Suomi, or even the thought of having the different regions and different finnish tribes, or peoples together under an own name is "new", as it was formed as earliest in the 1830's and the name Suomi first occuring as a name for all the regions in the 1870's, and established as a finnish official name for the region some 10 years earlier, and further established with the independence in 1917.
Now tell us why you swedes are named after a vegetable. ;)
The name Finland is by far older for the nation, dating back to the latin name "Finlandia", meaning "Country of those who move around", which was referring to the Fenni people (who were made up mostly by tavastians).
The name Suomi, or even the thought of having the different regions and different finnish tribes, or peoples together under an own name is "new", as it was formed as earliest in the 1830's and the name Suomi first occuring as a name for all the regions in the 1870's, and established as a finnish official name for the region some 10 years earlier, and further established with the independence in 1917.
Okay, thanks...
Learning all this history during the olympics is fun
ColoradoHockeyFan 02-22-2006, 11:38 AM Could Chelios look any worse to start this game?
Powerplay for the US.
Ruutu to the box.
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Americans getting a PP.
jaydub 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Ruutu is a worthless human being. Can't wait till someone takes a run at him in the NHL and gives him what he deserves.
RSBPC 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Punk move...good call.
chiavsfan 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Could Chelios look any worse to start this game?
I think I have mentioned this before...but I hate Chris Chelios, and I am from his freaking hometown. However, I like him during the Olympics since he represents the team I want to win
ColoradoHockeyFan 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM I hate Ruutu. Was their plan to just have him run DiPietro on his first shift?
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Boy is someone going to run Ruutu once the NHL gets back.
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:39 AM Time to start converting on the power play, Team USA! Take advantage of this...man...advantage.
Note: Do the Islanders play Vancouver (or whichever team Jarkko's on) when the NHL returns?
Matti_A 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM Ruutu :madfire:
Steve L* 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM The US look like amateurs in those white helmets.
Jonathan. 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM Someone needs to break a stick over his head or something.
The guy really deserves to be put as in an extreme amount of pain as possible.
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM This is an ugly PP thus far. Completely clueless and disorganized.
djtino224 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM Ugh...Ruutu. :shakehead
Another pathetic US PP...
RSBPC 02-22-2006, 11:40 AM Next time they take a penalty...can we just decline it?
This is hideous.
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM USA's passing looks pretty atrocious so far. Calm down, boys.
Finnswiss 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM Punk move...good call.
Of course J. Ruutu, they should take him out of the team. He is for nothing, except producing penalties.
ColoradoHockeyFan 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM JD is right. Our guys look flat out nervous.
gamera 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM Boy is someone going to run Ruutu once the NHL gets back.
someone? how 'bout everyone? :biglaugh:
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM It's OK, there's 55 minutes left. Plenty of time to "get it together."
bottleCAPS 02-22-2006, 11:41 AM Lets go USA!
Nihilism 02-22-2006, 11:42 AM Go Finland!
Jonathan. 02-22-2006, 11:43 AM I really do wonder if the Finnish coach didn't just tell him to go and hurt people or something like that. The dude is doing just the most retarded stuff that you wonder if he was told to do it.
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:43 AM DiPietro's made a couple of nice saves already. Ruutu's such a hack.
I really do wonder if the Finnish coach didn't just tell him to go and hurt people or something like that. The dude is doing just the most retarded stuff that you wonder if he was told to do it.
Taking ot Jagr helped their chances tenfold.
How can Ruutu be that stupid :rant: . Those kind of things dosen`t belong to this game.
Hooey 02-22-2006, 11:44 AM I really do wonder if the Finnish coach didn't just tell him to go and hurt people or something like that. The dude is doing just the most retarded stuff that you wonder if he was told to do it.
They're just trying to get their PP on the ice by getting the USA to take a retaliation.
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:44 AM Every time Ruutu does something, he laughs about it.
He laughed when he hit Jagr, and he is laughing now.
mr gib 02-22-2006, 11:44 AM this should be pretty good - swe and suisse is now a blow out
Whew...he deked Ricky out of his pads, but hit the post.
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:45 AM Any 1 on 1 is going to scare the hell out of me in this game.
Jonathan. 02-22-2006, 11:45 AM Every time Ruutu does something, he laughs about it.
He laughed when he hit Jagr, and he is laughing now.
He just has such a complete lack of respect for anyone. I honestly wouldn't shed a tear if he had some career ending injury. I mean, it'd be like what happened to Marchment, pretty much.
I hate players who play with an attitude like Ruutu does.
Levitate 02-22-2006, 11:46 AM Every time Ruutu does something, he laughs about it.
He laughed when he hit Jagr, and he is laughing now.
just curious, has ruutu ever had a serious injury or been cheapshotted like the way he cheap shots other people and gotten injured?
he's been at it awhile now so i dont' really expect any real retaliation against him for his play in the olympics, but it certainly is annoying that some players will go too far over the edge because they know they can get that "freebie" in and other teams won't want to retaliate in the same way and face harsher consequences
bcrt2000 02-22-2006, 11:47 AM By the way for Canadians, CBC is showing this game, so you should switch over from watching the Swedish game on TSN because it's a stinker.
Heh. JD thinks Sweden dogged it yesterday to play Switzerland...
Takeo 02-22-2006, 11:47 AM The US look like amateurs in those white helmets.
Agreed. I love the uni designs but those helmets are junk.
On another note, clearly Ruutu was instructed to run the net. Keeping the USA on the PP is a sure-fire way to limit their offense.
gamera 02-22-2006, 11:47 AM Whew...he deked Ricky out of his pads, but hit the post.
yeah, that was scary!!
bottleCAPS 02-22-2006, 11:47 AM what did ruutu do?
Puck33 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM what did ruutu do?
Ran the goalie..
Vagrant 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM What channel is this game on in the States? I'm looking for it
what did ruutu do?
He ran the goalie early in the game
DAMMIT.
mattihp 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM Now tell us why you swedes are named after a vegetable. ;)
I am finn. Swedes are named after a vegetable since they're so soft when boiled.
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM 1-0 Finland.
Czech Your Math 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM Well, I guess we know who the USA's best player is (hint: it's the guy Ruutu's sent out to injure each game).
bottleCAPS 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM sounds like ruutu
MeN_Ace2 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM PELTONEN!!!!! :jump: :jump: :clap:
RuuhkaTukka 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM Ville prkl! 1-0 Finland
gamera 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM well it was bound to happen
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM Ohhhhhhh, it trickled in. Heartbreaking.
Time to get it together, Team USA. Time for the Comeback™.
RSBPC 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM USA looks extremely overmatched. We could be in for a long afternoon.
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM Why doesn't Tkachuk have his stick down skating through the neutral zone? He could have easily picked off that pass. And then it leads to a goal. Aren't you taught to always have your stick on the ice in mites?
Jussi 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM Peltonen!!!!!!
3 goals = chili 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM hey, US win or go home....how bout you wake up
game is on the USA network here in Columbus, OH
Takeo 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM What channel is this game on in the States? I'm looking for it
USA network
Jonathan. 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM sounds like ruutu
Pretty much looked like a full speed football tackle. It was a pretty nasty thing.
And goal Finland.
Peltonen should be an NHLer.
DiPietro should've had that.
OilerOlli* 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM Ouch. But thats the american stupidy not to name Miller into the squad...
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM What channel is this game on in the States? I'm looking for it
USA Network
SuomiOlli 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM Great passing and puck control by the Finns. They are getting quality shots in front of the net, while the US is taking tough angle shots.
go kim johnsson 514 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM Ville Peltonen scores
bottleCAPS 02-22-2006, 11:49 AM who's starting for USA in net? Deeps?
Vagrant 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM USA network
Bah. No cable where i'm at right now. Not having this on network tv is a disgrace.
mattihp 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM Pretty much looked like a full speed football tackle. It was a pretty nasty thing.
And goal Finland.
Peltonen should be an NHLer.
Peltonen's too slow, and stickhandles too much... Perfect on the big ice, but not suitable for the small ice.
mr gib 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM tough break - love the fins nba defense - they've started already
norrisnick 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM Heh. JD thinks Sweden dogged it yesterday to play Switzerland...
The majority of teams assured of advancing "dogged" it yesterday. Most played their backups, didn't double shift their stars, rolled all the lines, etc... Sweden just had an added benefit of not going all out in a meaningless game. Any other team would have done the same. The coach was just honest about the situation which caused the controversy.
Go USA!!
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:50 AM Bah. No cable where i'm at right now. Not having this on network tv is a disgrace.
Soap operas > hockey in the States.
Takeo 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM The USA lacks highend offensive skill. You'd think somebody would notice when selecting the roster.
chiavsfan 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM Miller wouldn't have made a difference in this tournament. Rick D has played just fine in net. the US just can't score a freaking goal when it matters
Matti from Finland 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM Usa took time-out
djtino224 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM I didn't think that the US had three shots on goal.
Epsilon 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM Emrick has been really bad with names so far during this tournament.
Timeout?!?!?!?
Is Laviolette ****ing Stupid?
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:51 AM Let's see if having to use this timeout here comes back to burn them late in the 3rd.
Greyhounds 02-22-2006, 11:52 AM What channel is this game on in the States? I'm looking for it
from nhl.com
USA game on USA channel
Sweden on MSNBC & CBC
Canada on MSNBC & CBC
Czech on USA
Peltonen's too slow, and stickhandles too much... Perfect on the big ice, but not suitable for the small ice.
One of those strange cases of a player who can play at an élite level in Europe, but not in North America.
He really deserved his goal today, though, he's already had two great chances.
Takeo 02-22-2006, 11:52 AM Miller wouldn't have made a difference in this tournament. Rick D has played just fine in net. the US just can't score a freaking goal when it matters
As a Sabre fan, I agree 100%.
helicecopter 02-22-2006, 11:52 AM Finland is amazing!! :yo:
3 goals = chili 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM TimeOut U.S.A.
something needs to wake this squad up
is it too many games in too few days for the 30+ year olds?
whats the deal?
RSBPC 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Ruutu got ran over.
:handclap:
Finally Chelios does something right.
Famous Flames 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM The was the US and Finland have been playing, 1 goal may be all it takes.
Ruutu got what he was asking for..
Snap Wilson 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Good timeout. The team was scrambling.
Jonathan. 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Damn, what a hit by Chelios.
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Well, we look a little more spirited now. Chelios has to be careful with that. If not for Knuble's backcheck, that's an odd-man rush.
Matti from Finland 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Chelios tackle to head!
Finnswiss 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM There have been people saying Peltonen is a weak link in the team, may be the should rethink about it. I have been always sure that he belongs in the team.
Vagrant 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Timeout?!?!?!?
Is Laviolette ****ing Stupid?
Haha. Your hate on for Laviolette is insane. What exactly is the reasoning behind that?
If USA is playing as flat as people indicate here, having a timeout in a 6-0 game in the 3rd period is going to be useless. Use it while it still matters.
RuuhkaTukka 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Jarkko Ruutu get´s what he has ordered. Good hit!
Czech Your Math 02-22-2006, 11:53 AM Was DiPietro trying to make a save or was he trying out for "Saturday Night Fever Returns: Disco Goalie" ?
Penalty to Finland. We've gotta get some pressure on here.
Great....
****ing referees :shakehead
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:54 AM Jarkko got JACKED UP. Saku Koivu sits for 2 for interfering with Erik Cole.
Epsilon 02-22-2006, 11:54 AM Looks like the ref got a call from the NHL head office this morning.
Tonzan 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM SAlooooo!
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM 2-0 Finland.
Salo SH goal. What a bullet!
What The ****?!?!?!?!?
Pull Dipietro Right Now
Steve L* 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Yeah! another SH. :D
Flonaldo 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Didn't take long for the NA ref to start calling it for the Yanks. Chelly goes headhunting, nothing. Koivu gets grabbed from the neck, and he goes to the box.
Doesn't matter as Salo bangs it home as I'm typing...
RuuhkaTukka 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Salo own´s USA!!!!
:yo:
djtino224 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Like it matters.
DAMMIT.
Woohoo!!! SAAAAALOOOO!!!!
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Salo sure unloaded on that one.
mr gib 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM c'mon
gamera 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM salo shg :shakehead
Matti_A 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM *** Devorski!! :madfire:
Salo YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
What a goal :handclap:
MeN_Ace2 02-22-2006, 11:55 AM Thats what you get for giving dumb penalty on Koivu!!! Shorthanded Salo!!!! 2-0 Finland!!!
Joretus 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM First clear hit to head, no call. Then clear hit and Finland got penalty. Such a biased refering. Thank god Salo still scores.
Ajacied 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM Good grief..
RangerBoy 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM DiPietro is back
Ricky is in his usual Islander form.Just in time for next week ;)
Roger's Pancreas* 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM DiPietro is back
More accurately, the US is back.
shawn_kemp* 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM Suomi :clap:
What a great team!
jepjepjoo 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM after that call on koivu that goal was poetic justice.
PS. that hit on Ruutu was dirty (hit to the head iihf rules: atleast 2+10mins)
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM Oh, that goal was like a kick in the groin. Shorthanded, from poor defense (Rafalski, if you're hurt, you shouldn't play), and back to a PP I'm not looking forward too.
2-0 Finland.
Westlander 02-22-2006, 11:56 AM You can get away with some of that, but Saku held him about a second to long. Not that it mattered, shorthanded goal by the Finns!
RSBPC 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM Next time they take a penalty...can we just decline it?
This is hideous.
Like I said... :madfire:
Of course, right after I post this we get a PP goal. 2-1.
jaydub 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM sigh. i guess ill root for canada then.
go kim johnsson 514 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM Most accurately, 3 guys just got beat by Sami Salo
joe_shannon_1983* 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM 2-1. Schneider scores.
go kim johnsson 514 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM Schneider scores for Team USA
Mr Brownstone 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM Schneider with a Howitzer of his own. HUGE goal.
3 goals = chili 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM call me a bandwagon fan if you want but how long till Vancouver?
the next goal will be huge, will either keep it close or blow it wiiiiide open
as i type this HUUUUUUGE goal by Schneider....2-1 finland maybe this will wake the team up
ice berg slim 02-22-2006, 11:57 AM 2-1
SCHNEIDER!
Huuuuuge Goal!
monster_bertuzzi 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM Schneider
djtino224 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM YEAH!
2-1!
:handclap:
Puck33 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM after that call on koivu that goal was poetic justice.
PS. that hit on Ruutu was dirty (hit to the head iihf rules: atleast 2+10mins)
Please don't post anymore, the hit was clean.
Lionel Hutz 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM Yay!
shawn_kemp* 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM it's getting very intresting here :D
Roger's Pancreas* 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM Good job Knuble.
DevilFisch 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM It's a goal! From Schneider!
TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME for the COMEBACK.
2-1.
jerseydevil 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM Knuble!!
Takeo 02-22-2006, 11:58 AM :handclap:
Ref's trying his best... we'll see much more of that later in the game.
That is the only chance for north american teams in this tournament. NHL ref's try make sure that Canada and Usa make it to medals.
bottleCAPS 02-22-2006, 11:59 AM Yeah, Knuble! 2-1!
jaydub 02-22-2006, 11:59 AM after that call on koivu that goal was poetic justice.
PS. that hit on Ruutu was dirty (hit to the head iihf rules: atleast 2+10mins)
you seem to have a good handle on the rules of hockey :sarcasm:
I don't understand why you Europeans think that the Canadian ref favors the US. That's a bunch of crap considerin the US and Canada are huge rivals. That's like one of us accusing a Swedish ref of favoring the Finns.
Matti_A 02-22-2006, 11:59 AM 2-1 Thanks alot Devorski you piece of **** :madfire:
monster_bertuzzi 02-22-2006, 12:00 PM Just shoot Billy Guerin, dont shoot from the goal-line.
mr gib 02-22-2006, 12:00 PM 2-1 Thanks alot Devorski you piece of **** :madfire:
rutuu karma
jaydub 02-22-2006, 12:00 PM Ref's trying his best... we'll see much more of that later in the game.
That is the only chance for north american teams in this tournament. NHL ref's try make sure that Canada and Usa make it to medals.
is this a joke?
Joretus 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM Please don't post anymore, the hit was clean.
Clean direct and targeted to head.
JOHNBOY 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM :yo:
jepjepjoo 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM Please don't post anymore, the hit was clean.
I think i know IIHF rules a lil better than you :teach:
chiavsfan 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM is this a joke?
It's always the refs...haven't you figured that out yet?
Flaymin 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM Please don't post anymore, the hit was clean.
Oh please! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
jaydub 02-22-2006, 12:01 PM I don't understand why you Europeans think that the Canadian ref favors the US. That's a bunch of crap considerin the US and Canada are huge rivals. That's like one of us accusing a Swedish ref of favoring the Finns.
don't try to understand stupidity
Steve L* 02-22-2006, 12:02 PM The ref missed clear interference on a finnish forechecker.
2-1 Thanks alot Devorski you piece of **** :madfire:
That was a good call. Koivu held Cole along the boards for a little too long.
Frogurt 02-22-2006, 12:02 PM Ref's trying his best... we'll see much more of that later in the game.
That is the only chance for north american teams in this tournament. NHL ref's try make sure that Canada and Usa make it to medals.
You officially have the worst quality/post ratio on the boards.
Puck33 02-22-2006, 12:03 PM Clean direct and targeted to head.
Tell jager that.
teamzherdev 02-22-2006, 12:03 PM 2-1 Thanks alot Devorski you piece of **** :madfire:
Anyone that has Rutuu on its roster is not allowed to complain about officiating. Plain and simple...this guy should have been kicked out of the tournament a while ago...
For the sake of the health of the Finns. they would not want this game to get out of hand...I could see Chelios and and Hatcher starting to let their tempers boil over a bit...
Snap Wilson 02-22-2006, 12:03 PM Ah, it's "blame the refs" time. Gotta love sports.
neelynugs 02-22-2006, 12:03 PM can someone post the audio link to this game? tks
monster_bertuzzi 02-22-2006, 12:03 PM Way to go CBC, switch from quarter-final hockey to alpine skiing. :shakehead
jepjepjoo 02-22-2006, 12:04 PM you seem to have a good handle on the rules of hockey :sarcasm:
FFS you NA fans make me so pissed this is IIHF not NHL rules they differ pretty much.
Hit to the head IIHF : atleast 2+10, 5+20 if player gets an injury
thats just how the rules are I can't help it
You officially have the worst quality/post ratio on the boards.
:D
Who's in 2nd place?
someguy44 02-22-2006, 12:04 PM Hmm... so CBC thinks we prefer skiing over the US - Finland game???
Grrrrrr....................... :shakehead
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