Team Canada 2?

feds91
02-17-2006, 07:00 PM
People on t.v. have said that Canada could field 4 or 5 competitive teams for the Olympics. I don't know about that, but what if Canada was aloud to field a second squad, what would it look like? Mine would resemble this:

forwards:
Tanguay, Savard, Marleau, Spezza, Cheechoo, Crosby, Horcoff, Stillman, Bergeron, Morrow, Sullivan, Brind'Amour, Murray
D:
Hannan, Boyle, Phaneuf, Boucher, Bergeron, Van Ryn, Desjardins
Goal:
Belfour, Theodore, Giguere
(I know Theo and Belfour are having bad years, but people seem to forgot how great they were the past few seasons.)
:teach:

what do you think?

Zell_Rocks
02-17-2006, 07:24 PM
My Canada 2 squad would look like this...

Tanguay-Staal-Cheechoo
Kariya-Savard-Marleau
Crosby-Spezza- P.Bergeron (Kid Line)
Tucker-Brind'Amour-Stillman
Horcoff

Boyle-Phaneuf
Stuart-MA. Bergeron
Smith-Hannan
Desjardins

Legace
Fernandez
Giguere

Garbs
02-17-2006, 07:26 PM
Both teams would be successful if the lineups were balanced. You can't stock up one and have the second full of scraps.

joshjull
02-17-2006, 07:27 PM
If you hypothetically fielded a second team wouldn't it include half of the current team. Spreading the talent evenly among two teams.

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 07:37 PM
That team whould not be as good as Chech, Russia, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Switzerland and Germany

Panopticon
02-17-2006, 07:39 PM
That team whould not be as good as Chech, Russia, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Switzerland and Germany

But better than Sweden?

High flyin' Habs*
02-17-2006, 07:41 PM
That team whould not be as good as Chech, Russia, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Switzerland and Germany
Not better than Switzerland and Germany? Are you kidding? lol

shawn_kemp*
02-17-2006, 07:42 PM
!!! IMPORTANT !!!

READ THIS :

Why do we have this "Team Canada 2/B" thread every week???

Maybe there should be a sticky or something? :help:

Chandler55
02-17-2006, 07:43 PM
Not better than Switzerland and Germany? Are you kidding? lol
apparently it would be better than sweden :)

Forever27
02-17-2006, 07:44 PM
People on t.v. have said that Canada could field 4 or 5 competitive teams for the Olympics. I don't know about that, but what if Canada was aloud to field a second squad, what would it look like? Mine would resemble this:

forwards:
Tanguay, Savard, Marleau, Spezza, Cheechoo, Crosby, Horcoff, Stillman, Bergeron, Morrow, Sullivan, Brind'Amour, Murray
D:
Hannan, Boyle, Phaneuf, Boucher, Bergeron, Van Ryn, Desjardins
Goal:
Belfour, Theodore, Giguere
(I know Theo and Belfour are having bad years, but people seem to forgot how great they were the past few seasons.)
:teach:

what do you think?

I would definately want Kariya and Shanahan on my team. Still productive and a veteran presence with plenty of international experience.

I'd also put Staal on my team for sure. And I'd bring Fernandez in instead of Belfour or Giguere. Say what you want about him playing on the wild in a defensive system, hes frusturatingly good at making miraculous saves.

And this is from a Canucks fan too.

Forever27
02-17-2006, 07:45 PM
Sorry, double post.

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 07:47 PM
apparently it would be better than sweden :)

I can't speak about Sweden cause then I whould just be biased.

Jyroe Habs Fan
02-17-2006, 07:49 PM
Tanguay-Staal-Cheechoo
Recchi - Horcoff- RYDER
Kariya-Savard-Marleau
Crosby-Spezza- P.Bergeron (Kid Line)

Extra Brinda'mour

SOURAY - Hannan
Boyle-Phaneuf
Stuart-MA. Bergeron
Extra Rivet

Theodore
Joseph

Souray was on Canada's A team in the World Cup last year, he would be there and Ryder who is on pace for 35goals would the snipers touch.
No diving Mother Tucker for me. :biglaugh:

God Bless Canada
02-17-2006, 07:54 PM
My Team Canada B Team would be as follows (I'm not counting players on the Taxi Squad, injured players or those left off the 81-man long list from October).

G:
Joseph
Belfour
Theodore (If Theo's ineligible, go with Cam Ward).
D:
D. Phaneuf-Stuart
McLaren-Hannan
Phillips-Jackman
DesJardins
(Brewer is out for the season, thus isn't on my team).

F:
A. Tanguay-S. Crosby-P. Marleau
P. Kariya-M. Savard-M. Recchi
B. Shanahan-J. Arnott-S. Sullivan
B. Morrow-J. Madden-R. Niedermayer
S. Horcoff

Taxi: N. Boynton, P. Bergeron, J. Lupul

Canada's B Team would likely be good enough to finish third or fourth in their pool. They would need their goalie to steal them a game to reach the semi-final and have a chance at playing for a medal. A lot of talent up front, in fact, there's lots of talent up front for the third team. But in goal and on defence, the third team, based on the long list, would struggle.

Zell_Rocks
02-17-2006, 08:03 PM
Tanguay-Staal-Cheechoo
Recchi - Horcoff- RYDER
Kariya-Savard-Marleau
Crosby-Spezza- P.Bergeron (Kid Line)

Extra Brinda'mour

SOURAY - Hannan
Boyle-Phaneuf
Stuart-MA. Bergeron
Extra Rivet

Theodore
Joseph

Souray was on Canada's A team in the World Cup last year, he would be there and Ryder who is on pace for 35goals would the snipers touch.
No diving Mother Tucker for me. :biglaugh:
Something tells me that you are a habs fan, no?

Souray? :biglaugh:
Ryder? :biglaugh:
Rivet? :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Theodore? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

therealdeal
02-17-2006, 08:07 PM
Something tells me that you are a habs fan, no?

Souray? :biglaugh:
Ryder? :biglaugh:
Rivet? :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Theodore? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

You can say that again, none of those guys would be on the team.

MXD
02-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Something tells me that you are a habs fan, no?

Souray? :biglaugh:
Ryder? :biglaugh:
Rivet? :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Theodore? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Come on, please no posts like this, us Habs fans tends to lose credibility...

On these four only Ryder would be somewhat deserving, and again it would be something of a judgement call.

leafnation67
02-17-2006, 09:25 PM
That team whould not be as good as Chech, Russia, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Switzerland and Germany

:biglaugh: lol not better than the finns, americans, swiss, or germans!? maybe not quite as good as the czechs, russians, or maybe the slovaks... maybe but that team would absolutely crush those other teams, and any other countries 2nd team i might add

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 09:29 PM
:biglaugh: lol not better than the finns, americans, swiss, or germans!? maybe not quite as good as the czechs, russians, or maybe the slovaks... maybe but that team would absolutely crush those other teams, and any other countries 2nd team i might add

No way, keep on dreaming...

KariyaIsGod*
02-17-2006, 09:48 PM
No way, keep on dreaming...

It's quite apparent that you are living in an abstract reality if you don't think that team would beat the Swiss or the Germans... :biglaugh:

Can you say European bias?

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 09:52 PM
It's quite apparent that you are living in an abstract reality if you don't think that team would beat the Swiss or the Germans... :biglaugh:

Can you say European bias?

I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.

therealdeal
02-17-2006, 09:55 PM
I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.

Right, because while non the Italians mad the NHL, team Canada 2 has about 8 of the top 30 point getters, and 8 of the top 30 goal scorers, along with one the best up and coming defense in the world.

But no, you're right, you clearly have a grasp on the game.

monster_bertuzzi
02-17-2006, 09:55 PM
Considering how well Latvia and Swtizerland have been doing in this tourny so far, its not a stretch to sya our 'D' team could win with the right coaching.

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 10:04 PM
Right, because while non the Italians mad the NHL, team Canada 2 has about 8 of the top 30 point getters, and 8 of the top 30 goal scorers, along with one the best up and coming defense in the world.

But no, you're right, you clearly have a grasp on the game.

How many top "point getters" in the NHL did the swiss have when they beat the chechs? it whould crack me up if switzerland beat canada(team 1/A) too.

therealdeal
02-17-2006, 10:07 PM
How many top "point getters" in the NHL did the swiss have when they beat the chechs? it whould crack me up if switzerland beat canada(team 1/A) too.

Yeah, I guess you're right, the Swiss are far better than the Czechs, I'm sure they just didn't catch the Czechs off guard.

No you definetly know you're stuff.

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right, the Swiss are far better than the Czechs, I'm sure they just didn't catch the Czechs off guard.

No you definetly know you're stuff.

And you definetly know you're english.

therealdeal
02-17-2006, 10:15 PM
And you definetly know you're english.

How many top "point getters" in the NHL did the swiss have when they beat the chechs? it whould crack me up if switzerland beat canada(team 1/A) too.

I love everything more about the world cup except one thing... it's runned by Canada. Canadian-biased referees etc. makes it impossible for any team to win.

You're right, my english is just horrible.

Good arguement though, so I guess you're power rankings would show the swiss above the Czechs?

Coffee and 7's*
02-17-2006, 10:17 PM
You're right, my english is just horrible.

Good arguement though, so I guess you're power rankings would show the swiss above the Czechs?

stop being such an angry man :(

Switzerland beat Chechs so they're clearly the better team between the two. Winning is everything. playing good in NHL and scoring many goals means nothing in the question about who is the better team.

therealdeal
02-17-2006, 10:18 PM
stop being such an angry man :(

I will if you stop posting stupid things.

Jyroe Habs Fan
02-18-2006, 01:04 AM
Theo - Olympic and World Cup experience
Souray - World Cup experience LAST YEAR
Ryder - 35-40 goal scorer on Canada's 81 player list
Rivet - my only bonus homer pick, did play for Team Canada at the World cup also.

So why are these picks being panned folks? All these players have VERY recently played for Team Canada.

Its not like I am suggesting Steve Begin or Aaron Downey :shakehead

Dogbert
02-18-2006, 01:22 AM
Theo - Olympic and World Cup experience
Souray - World Cup experience LAST YEAR
Ryder - 35-40 goal scorer on Canada's 81 player list
Rivet - my only bonus homer pick, did play for Team Canada at the World cup also.

So why are these picks being panned folks? All these players have VERY recently played for Team Canada.

Its not like I am suggesting Steve Begin or Aaron Downey :shakehead

Let's look at who you left off in order to have them on the team:

Theodore: Giguere, Belfour, Fleury, Biron, Fernandez, Legace, Denis

Souray and Rivet: Phillips, McLaren, B. Jackman, Desjardins, Boucher, Van Ryn, J. Smith, Seabrook, Hamhuis, Boynton

Ryder: Sullivan, Morrow, Shanahan, Arnott, Murray, A. Carter, Lupul, M. Richards, Stillman

Those are just the guys that I can think of off the top of my head.

God Bless Canada
02-18-2006, 01:31 AM
Theo - Olympic and World Cup experience
Souray - World Cup experience LAST YEAR
Ryder - 35-40 goal scorer on Canada's 81 player list
Rivet - my only bonus homer pick, did play for Team Canada at the World cup also.

So why are these picks being panned folks? All these players have VERY recently played for Team Canada.

Its not like I am suggesting Steve Begin or Aaron Downey :shakehead
Souray actually played at the World Championships. And by all accounts, it was a less than impressive performance. Dan Boyle was Canada's No. 2 defenceman at that tournament (Canada's best defenceman to some insiders) and that was his clincher for getting on the Taxi Squad. Phillips also played extremely well at last year's Worlds, that's why he got some consideration. Souray did not play well at last year's Worlds, that play has carried over to this year, and I didn't hear any credible sources say he had a shot at making the team after he was on Canada's 81-man short list.

Rivet did not play at the World Championships. He was on the team in 2003. He did not make the 81-man long list.

Ryder would merit consideration for Team II. I actually have him as the first line right wing on Team Canada III.

Theodore's on my Team II, but there are goalies not on the long list who deserve a place more than Theodore. (Manny Fernandez, for example).

AgentNaslund*
02-18-2006, 02:06 AM
It's quite apparent that you are living in an abstract reality if you don't think that team would beat the Swiss or the Germans... :biglaugh:

Can you say European bias?

anyone who thinks a team Canada B team that has Kariya, Sullivan, Phaneuf, Crosby, Staal, Cheecho, Hannan, cant beat Italy, is someone not worth talking too. Nuff said. Considering this guy is Swedish, we can diss him to hell with what happend, when Belarus beat Swedens A team.

KariyaIsGod*
02-18-2006, 02:09 AM
anyone who thinks a team Canada B team that has Kariya, Sullivan, Phaneuf, Crosby, Staal, Cheecho, Hannan, cant beat Italy, is someone not worth talking too. Nuff said. Considering this guy is Swedish, we can diss him to hell with what happend, when Belarus beat Swedens A team.

The guy's statements are just so incredibly ridiculous...

I can't even seriously respond to this crap...

I agree man, not worth talking too.

What do you say to a guy who clearly has no concept of reality?

thomasincanada
02-18-2006, 02:21 AM
I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.

You've got to be kidding me. Our "Team 17" would beat Italy, and it includes Cory Cross on defense.

nik jr
02-18-2006, 02:23 AM
You're right, my english is just horrible.

Good arguement though, so I guess you're power rankings would show the swiss above the Czechs?

Yeah, I guess you're right, the Swiss are far better than the Czechs, I'm sure they just didn't catch the Czechs off guard.

No you definetly know you're stuff.
your english is horrible. :PPPPPPPPPPP

:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

thomasincanada
02-18-2006, 02:23 AM
And you definetly know you're english.

You're not honestly making fun of someone else's english.. are you?

therealdeal
02-18-2006, 02:31 AM
your english is horrible. :PPPPPPPPPPP

:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

no worse than his.

therealdeal
02-18-2006, 02:31 AM
Theo - Olympic and World Cup experience
Souray - World Cup experience LAST YEAR
Ryder - 35-40 goal scorer on Canada's 81 player list
Rivet - my only bonus homer pick, did play for Team Canada at the World cup also.

So why are these picks being panned folks? All these players have VERY recently played for Team Canada.

Its not like I am suggesting Steve Begin or Aaron Downey :shakehead

Souray is terrible, Theo has been the worst starting goalie in the NHL, and Rivet just isn't good.

Ryder is okay.

Scoogs
02-18-2006, 02:33 AM
Youz guys our iliterat

I never understood how people get this mixed up. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything. But even people in my classes would do this.

You're = You Are

You're Stupid (correct)
Your Stupid (incorrect)

The only time "Your Stupid" would work would be:

"Your stupid cat pissed on my couch"

EDIT: I guess I should stay on topic here..

Go Canada2 Go!

The Legend
02-18-2006, 03:13 AM
This is all hypothetical obviously, but if you do it by paper the Canada "B" Team player for player is better IMHO overall than anyone not named Czech, Russia, Sweden......


But that's why the games are played on the ice, not on paper.

AgentNaslund*
02-18-2006, 05:23 AM
oh yea, If we have a Team B, it will be coached by Darryl Sutter. Which means they are good enough to beat anyone. Including team Sweden and Canada A :eek:

jepjepjoo
02-18-2006, 07:52 AM
:biglaugh: lol not better than the finns, americans, swiss, or germans!? maybe not quite as good as the czechs, russians, or maybe the slovaks... maybe but that team would absolutely crush those other teams, and any other countries 2nd team i might add

Yes, im sure they would crush Finland like Team A did last World Cup Finals :shakehead: :dunno:

Ajacied
02-18-2006, 08:00 AM
Paul Kariya - Eric Staal - Patrick Marleau (fast and highly skilled)
Alex Tanguay - Jason Spezza - Sidney Crosby (may need a finisher but still)
Brenden Morrow - Jason Arnott - Jonathan Cheechoo (hardnosed)
Stu Barnes - Rod Brind'Amour - John Madden (experienced shutdown line)

Philippe Boucher - Dion Phaneuf (ouch)
Brad Stuart - Scott Hannan (former duo)
Dan Boyle - Jason Smith (offensive and defensive)

Ed Belfour (when healthy a top netminder)
JS Giguere (inconsistent but impossible to beat at times)
Jose Theodore (hey he has a Hart!)

Coffee and 7's*
02-18-2006, 09:30 AM
You're not honestly making fun of someone else's english.. are you?

I was just repeating his spelling mistakes to make fun of him...it's not like I usually write "you're" when I mean "your"...

MXD
02-18-2006, 09:40 AM
I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.


They would maybe struggle to score 8 goals agaisnt Italy, right...

Vic Rattlehead
02-18-2006, 09:47 AM
My IQ has dropped after reading this thread.

TK79
02-18-2006, 10:02 AM
My Team Canada B Team would be as follows (I'm not counting players on the Taxi Squad, injured players or those left off the 81-man long list from October).

G:
Joseph
Belfour
Theodore (If Theo's ineligible, go with Cam Ward).
D:
D. Phaneuf-Stuart
McLaren-Hannan
Phillips-Jackman
DesJardins
(Brewer is out for the season, thus isn't on my team).

F:
A. Tanguay-S. Crosby-P. Marleau
P. Kariya-M. Savard-M. Recchi
B. Shanahan-J. Arnott-S. Sullivan
B. Morrow-J. Madden-R. Niedermayer
S. Horcoff

Taxi: N. Boynton, P. Bergeron, J. Lupul

Canada's B Team would likely be good enough to finish third or fourth in their pool. They would need their goalie to steal them a game to reach the semi-final and have a chance at playing for a medal. A lot of talent up front, in fact, there's lots of talent up front for the third team. But in goal and on defence, the third team, based on the long list, would struggle.

One of the first unbiased Canadian posts I have read on this subject :handclap:

Bruin Stain
02-18-2006, 10:27 AM
I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.
dude no way our b team loses to italy.you know nothing about Canadian hockey.by the way a big chunk of italy's team is canadian.and none of them would make it on canada's k team.

C-J...*
02-18-2006, 11:17 AM
This is "big ice hockey", nothing like the nhl.


EDIT: What I just said, Canada is down 0-1 against Switzerland.

baston
02-18-2006, 11:23 AM
Why are you answering. It's obvious that Canada's Team Z would beat Italy.

Anyways, Italy is filled with canadians with a double nationality anyways. Don't be ridiculous people. Canada's junior team would beat Italy.

Just for fun, here's my Team B roster for you people spending way too much time in a saüna :

13 forwards :

Sidney Crosby
Eric Staal
Jason Spezza
Alex Tanguay
Patrice Bergeron
Marc Savard
Patrick Marleau
Steve Sullivan
Glen Murray
Jonathan Cheechoo
Daniel Bričre
Paul Kariya
Brendan Shanahan

7 defensemen :

Dan Boyle
Dion Phaneuf
Adrian Aucoin
Brad Stuart
Dan Hamhuis
Mike Van Ryn
M-A Bergeron
Eric Brewer

3 Goalies

J-S Gigučre
Curtis Joseph
Manny Legace

Panopticon
02-18-2006, 11:54 AM
Right, because while non the Italians mad the NHL

I'm sur you'r right. I hav not seen an italian nam on any teams roster sinc Ciccarelli.

LuigiStone
02-18-2006, 01:15 PM
Well, if Switzerland can beat team number 1, I can only imagine what Latvia would do to team number 2.

baston
02-18-2006, 01:37 PM
Well, if Switzerland can beat team number 1, I can only imagine what Latvia would do to team number 2.

:shakehead

The Mars Volchenkov
02-18-2006, 01:38 PM
Surprised at the lack of Chris Phillips on some of these lists. He was considered for the first team, he'd probably make Team 2.

jekoh
02-18-2006, 03:59 PM
It's quite apparent that you are living in an abstract reality if you don't think that team would beat the Swiss or the Germans... :biglaugh:

Can you say European bias?pwn3d

KariyaIsGod*
02-18-2006, 05:34 PM
pwn3d

Do you even understand what you just typed?

Team Canada one lost, that has nothing to do with Team Canada too...

pwn3d

jekoh
02-18-2006, 05:44 PM
Team Canada one lost, that has nothing to do with Team Canada too...
:biglaugh:

Lionel Hutz
02-18-2006, 05:46 PM
But better than Sweden?

But not Switzerland. :teach:

Briere03
02-18-2006, 06:06 PM
Goalies:
Joseph
Belfour
Legace

Defence:
Phaneuf
Hannan
Phillips
DesJardins
Brewer
Boyle
Aucoin

Forwards:
Tanguay
Crosby
Marleau
Kariya
Savard
Shanahan
Arnott
Sullivan
Horcoff
Briere
Staal
Spezza
Cheechoo

primetime
02-18-2006, 06:07 PM
dude no way our b team loses to italy.you know nothing about Canadian hockey.by the way a big chunk of italy's team is canadian.and none of them would make it on canada's k team.

Italy should've sent out offers to Bertuzzi, Amonte, Modano, and a whole bunch of other NHL guys with Italian names. DiPietro in goal, for instance.

Coffee and 7's*
02-19-2006, 07:03 AM
Canadas A-Team can't beat Switzerland. How can you guys believe Canadas B-Team whould be better than Switzerland? Who is the ones living in an abstract world? you Canadians make me laugh :biglaugh:

Coffee
02-19-2006, 08:56 AM
A winning team is more than just a stacked roster. The players need to hustle and they need to play with some heart. I don't think Canada was lazy yesterday against Switzerland. Nor did I think they played badly. They had 49 shots on goal and allowed 1 in the 3rd period. Gerber was just a maniac in net. So, anyone who brags about Canada losing, really didn't watch the game at all. The Swiss did what they had to do to keep Canada from scoring and that's all that can be said. Just because a team is full of big name players, it doesn't mean they'll win anything at all, though. Even Canada's impeccable A team can lose.

Crosbyfan
02-19-2006, 09:28 AM
A winning team is more than just a stacked roster. The players need to hustle and they need to play with some heart. I don't think Canada was lazy yesterday against Switzerland. Nor did I think they played badly. They had 49 shots on goal and allowed 1 in the 3rd period. Gerber was just a maniac in net. So, anyone who brags about Canada losing, really didn't watch the game at all. The Swiss did what they had to do to keep Canada from scoring and that's all that can be said. Just because a team is full of big name players, it doesn't mean they'll win anything at all, though. Even Canada's impeccable A team can lose.

Especially when they leave a lot of their top finishers at home because they are inexperienced and might choke.

Coffee
02-19-2006, 09:55 AM
No.

Goldthorpe
02-19-2006, 12:15 PM
Canadas A-Team can't beat Switzerland. How can you guys believe Canadas B-Team whould be better than Switzerland? Who is the ones living in an abstract world? you Canadians make me laugh :biglaugh:

Now, come on, this is completely ridiculous. Are you really going to claim now that Switzerland has a better team than Canada? Just because of the result of one game? Do you really think it works that way?

I mean, the Swiss have all the right reasons to be happy about their win, they definitively played as a team, they beat fair and square a powerhouse and they beneficiated from the help of a very hot goalie. But let's not get carried over here. They got shelled all game long. Their best D (Streit) can't even play on the habs lineup on a regular basis, and we're talking about a very average NHL D corp here. Claiming that suddendly Canada isn't one of the best (if not the best) team on paper just because of this fluke is completely retard.

Canada B team would be competitive. Probably not at the level of, say Russia, but it would definitively be in the same class as Czech Republic for example. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Coffee and 7's*
02-26-2006, 05:44 PM
Now, come on, this is completely ridiculous. Are you really going to claim now that Switzerland has a better team than Canada? Just because of the result of one game? Do you really think it works that way?

I mean, the Swiss have all the right reasons to be happy about their win, they definitively played as a team, they beat fair and square a powerhouse and they beneficiated from the help of a very hot goalie. But let's not get carried over here. They got shelled all game long. Their best D (Streit) can't even play on the habs lineup on a regular basis, and we're talking about a very average NHL D corp here. Claiming that suddendly Canada isn't one of the best (if not the best) team on paper just because of this fluke is completely retard.

Canada B team would be competitive. Probably not at the level of, say Russia, but it would definitively be in the same class as Czech Republic for example. Nothing to be ashamed of.

I thought the question was how good team Canada-B whould do in the Olympics?

They whould not be competative at all and whould not make the quaterfinals.

I'd say ALL the other big-7 countries team-B's whould have a bigger shot than Canadas...

Sure, they have good players who can perform good in the NHL, but on big ice they're not contenders for the Olympic Gold.

Please stop this madness... :shakehead

Bloggins
02-26-2006, 05:49 PM
I thought the question was how good team Canada-B whould do in the Olympics?

They whould not be competative at all and whould not make the quaterfinals.

I'd say ALL the other big-7 countries team-B's whould have a bigger shot than Canadas...

Sure, they have good players who can perform good in the NHL, but on big ice they're not contenders for the Olympic Gold.

Please stop this madness... :shakehead

Whether it's team B or team Z Canadians would never throw a game to ensure an easier run to the medal round however ;)

shealy04
02-26-2006, 05:56 PM
That team whould not be as good as Chech, Russia, Finland, Slovakia, USA, Switzerland and Germany


Malarky!

That team would probably beat our "A" team, cuz I can see that group coming together better as a team, and there's still plenty of skill to boot...

Crosby, Staal, Spezza, Kariya, Phaneuf, Marleau, and Savard would make ANY other team in the Olympics... say what you want, but let's just say all of those guys had multiple citizenships, you know they would have been picked up, there's no denying it...

hpheikki
02-26-2006, 05:59 PM
I'm not being biased. It's you Canadians who are being biased...seriously your "team 2" whould struggle against italy.

FUNNY as h***... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Coffee and 7's*
02-26-2006, 06:02 PM
Whether it's team B or team Z Canadians would never throw a game to ensure an easier run to the medal round however ;)

Yeah, Strategy was never Canadas thing was it?

having the most talented players, yet failing in the Quaterfinals. Looks like you've taken over Swedens role eh? ;)

mattihp
02-26-2006, 06:02 PM
I am pretty sure the next time we will see Canada in a big tournament, at least one of their scoring lines will consist of three players from the same team, or who have extensive experience of playing together. Chemistry counts for so much...

hpheikki
02-26-2006, 06:15 PM
I am pretty sure the next time we will see Canada in a big tournament, at least one of their scoring lines will consist of three players from the same team, or who have extensive experience of playing together. Chemistry counts for so much...

Or maybe they should add some ugly brothers like the sedins and the jonssons to their lineup. Man, those guys are strange looking...

jcpenny
02-26-2006, 06:24 PM
Yeah, Strategy was never Canadas thing was it?

having the most talented players, yet failing in the Quaterfinals. Looks like you've taken over Swedens role eh? ;)
Canada need to know how to play on the big ice. Without strategy they look like the old NYRangers outhere, so they need to realize that just bunching a couple of superstars togheter wont do it anymore. When they will learn how to play on the big ice, this team will return on top.

stockwizard*
02-26-2006, 06:48 PM
The reality is Gretzky did such a bad job picking Team 1, I would not be surprised if Team 2 dismantled them.

KrisKing*
02-26-2006, 07:55 PM
I thought the question was how good team Canada-B whould do in the Olympics?

They whould not be competative at all and whould not make the quaterfinals.

I'd say ALL the other big-7 countries team-B's whould have a bigger shot than Canadas...

Sure, they have good players who can perform good in the NHL, but on big ice they're not contenders for the Olympic Gold.

Please stop this madness... :shakehead

This guy is a genius. 2002 was nothing but a fluke, and everyone who said that Canada has the most depth and talent in the world was clearly proved wrong by this years olympics. The fact that it's an incredibly short tournament where anything can happen, and one loss will knock you out of the medal round means nothing.

Seriously, Canada's B team would have just as good a chance of winning a medal as any other team in the tournament. Over the course of an 82 game season and Stanley Cup style playoffs, I'd have to say that Canada's A team would be in a higher class along with sweden and russia.

Kesler Kills Kommies
02-26-2006, 08:16 PM
This guy is a genius. 2002 was nothing but a fluke, and everyone who said that Canada has the most depth and talent in the world was clearly proved wrong by this years olympics. The fact that it's an incredibly short tournament where anything can happen, and one loss will knock you out of the medal round means nothing.

Seriously, Canada's B team would have just as good a chance of winning a medal as any other team in the tournament. Over the course of an 82 game season and Stanley Cup style playoffs, I'd have to say that Canada's A team would be in a higher class along with sweden and russia.
this year we suck, but 2002 is definiately not a fluke
first, we have mario and yzerman in 2002, which brings tons of experience and heart to the team that we dont have nw
second, big players like iginla and bertuzzi didnt struggle like they did in 2002
third, defense is way weaker this year withtout scott steven (i forget if he is in the team 2002), scott

therealdeal
02-27-2006, 02:22 AM
Canadas A-Team can't beat Switzerland. How can you guys believe Canadas B-Team whould be better than Switzerland? Who is the ones living in an abstract world? you Canadians make me laugh :biglaugh:

Well, it comforts me to know that despite losing one tournament, we still have one more best-on-best tournaments than every other nation in the world combined.