GDT: Czech Republic vs. Finland, Feb. 18, 9.00 PM Torino, 3.00 PM EST

GROUP A: (4) CZECH REPUBLIC [1-1-0] vs. (1) FINLAND [2-0-0]

Date: February 18, 2006

Time: 9.00 PM Torino, 8.00 PM GMT, 3.00 PM EST, 12.00 PM PST

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Finland 4 Czechs 3 :yo:

Swiss delivered such bitter medicine to Czeck overconfidense and complacency that I can´t await anything but defeat for Finland. 2-1 or 3-1.

I can't see Finland winning this one. Czech lost to Sweizerland yesterday, and they usually come up huge to the next game. I say 3-1 Czech.

I can't see Finland winning this one. Czech lost to Sweizerland yesterday, and they usually come up huge to the next game. I say 3-1 Czech.

Oh comoon! We will take this one too. 4-1 to Finns and on Sunday well see the best hockey in the world Fin-Can!! :yo:

I love the Finnish reverse-psychology that usually pops in threads like these! :biglaugh:

If this game isn't broadcast live in its entirety on the CBC at the pre-determined time slot of 3:00pm EST, as it says it will be on the CBC website..... I'm gonna lose it. I am going to absolutely snap on somebody.

I love the Finnish reverse-psychology that usually pops in threads like these! :biglaugh:

The pessimist is never disappointed ;)

Finns have had easy two games and now they need to get their heads straight and concentrate for a change. I'd say they will run into trouble with D-men who cannot keep up with the Czech forwards and taking stupid penalties. 3-2 to Czech Rep. and a wake-up call for Finland.

Damn it, it's the evening game.. I'm going to party tomorrow and probably won't have a chance to see the game :cry: First real test in the Olympics for Finland. Go lions :yo:

I was all set to cheer for the Finns with Teppo and Lydman. But the Czechs just called up Ales Kotalik. What do I do now.

I was all set to cheer for the Finns with Teppo and Lydman. But the Czechs just called up Ales Kotalik. What do I do now.

Grab a beer and enjoy the game :cheers:

Grab a beer and enjoy the game :cheers:

Good call, you can never go wrong with that strategy :clap:

(Finland 4-2 Czech Republic)

Well, I was theer and watched the teams play (separately of course)..

..being a big Czech fan, I think the Fins are going to surprise us..

Hasek is out, his replacement not as steady..so is Patrik....he's a big player for us.

I think the Fins are going to surprise a lot of people this year...

...but I won't say they will win :-)


It will be one of the best games of the Games IMO.

CIAO

If this game isn't broadcast live in its entirety on the CBC at the pre-determined time slot of 3:00pm EST, as it says it will be on the CBC website..... I'm gonna lose it. I am going to absolutely snap on somebody.
I love it. I'll pull a flipper too. Perhaps we can have a moment of unity across the country by busting something in disgust over the CBC's piss poor coverage.

I think that the Finns are going to take this one, but it should be a good game with two really fast teams going at each other.

Finallly opponent from big 7! Should be great hockey...i'm expecting that Czechs want to bounce back from the loss, so they will try hard.
4-2 Czechs if everything goes well...Nitty is not Kipper(as Vokoun is not Hasek, but still...)

Czech Republic: 8
Finland: 3

Only a handfull of the Finnish players would even make the Czech team, but I still think the Finns are going to win this one.

Motivation usually owns skill.

I really look forward to this game. I´ll probably watch it all by myself so I can shout and jump as I will.. If Finland wins.. I promised to write a praise poem for the team :) That won´t be pretty but I´ll do it. :)

Predictions:
-First physical game of the tounatment for these teams
-Therefore at least one "big league" player injury
-One goalie will be a disapontment.. which one?
-There will be a total of 4 goals in this game, so..
-Finland takes this one 3-1!! Go Go GO!

Predictions:
-First physical game of the tounatment for these teams
-Therefore at least one "big league" player injury


Elias is out after a big cross-check vs Germany.
Physical enough?

Elias is out after a big cross-check vs Germany.
Physical enough?

Oh, I forgot. Germany game must have been rough. Somewhy I can´t see Germany playing a fair hard checking game.. I didn´t see the hit that injured Elias, but I have a feeling it wasn´t the kind of a hard play people like to see.
Hopefully it´s going to be a clean but tough game tonight, right?

Finns will win, 4-2 or 3-1, I guess.

It's our grand strategy, get underrated and then strike back in the quarterfinals :madfire:

Two games so far for Team Finland. 11 goals scored, 0 goals scored against. Will this be a third shutout in a row? I doubt it but with a great game all around it's possible.

It's a hard challenge for both teams imo. Hard for us Finns because we've played against two countries that aren't in the top six, with all due respect, and now one of the hardest opponent mentally for Team Finland. No mistake goes unpunished and you have to play every situation 100%.

For the Czechs it's hard because they have to bounce back and the opponent isn't one of the easiest one either. I'm not going to guess the winner, but I'll guess that the winner will have two goals more than the loser and it's going to be a tight game.

Finland will win the game 4-2 because we have Selanne who will score a Hattrick.

I have a hard time believing that we could manage a shutout against the Czech. Their individual skill level is simply so much higher than ours and even though Finland is a hardworking Team (with a capital letter-t intentionally) who when needed defends with the whole team, I don't think we can avoid having a PP goal or two scored against us.

Im ready for action! Beers are ready! All my friends are ready! And we have to wait 4hours!!! damn! Well we just have to watch ski-jumping first. :) GO FIN GO! :clap:

CNBC will have this game in it's entirety starting a 3pm

It's also on Universal HD

GO FINLAND :jump: :jump: :jump:

GO CZECH GO :yo: :clap:

Should be an ecstatic game, heres hoping that Hemsky gets a hat-trick ;)

Go finnland... if germany wants to say in we have to kick the czechs out... :jump:

The Czech's will win this one. It's the first game against a more offensive minded team for them in this tournament, and it's in games against our kind of opponents that they usually come up big.
And the Czech's have a better goalie.

Hope to see an exciting game tonite. :)

is this game on TV?

what the hell was nittymaki doing!!??

nice goal by zidlicky

I turn to this game and Jokinen scores.

Koivu!!!!!!

edit: Jokinen!!!!!!

Lets go Suomi!

GOAL

Damn nice Olli!

What a beauty!

Jokinen from an exelent pass by Koivu

Amazing faked shot :handclap:

fins with a great pk and then score on a 2 on 1 breakaway
this game is really entertaining

Who scored the 1st goal?

Who scored the 1st goal?


zidlicky scored on a pp for the czechs and then jokinen for the finns

Vokoun was hung out to dry. The defenseman just floated backward and never challenged either the shooter or blocked the passing lane to force a shot and disallow the 2-1.

The way Vokoun was coming out, he expected a shot to be forced.

David

Nice play by Jagr.

What a weak call on Peltonen. And the one on Koivu as well, but at least that one made some sense...

the call on Peltonen was weak but Koivu deserved a 2min rest.

Damn Jagr is playing good.

Some great skating by OJ there.

Very fast game.
Jagr looks damn good.

Good game so far.


Bob and Harry are totally clueless.

the call on Peltonen was weak but Koivu deserved a 2min rest.

Yup, he did. That call on Malik was also bad, he got Selänne's stick right in his face, raised his hands and for that he got called for holding. Ah well, I just hope this game wont be settled by a bad call.

Nice goal by Jokinen, assisted by Koivu. Beautiful play by Koivu! Jagr is just too hot, hope the Finns find a way to stop him. A great match, hard to say who will win!

C'mon Finland!

Suomi, Suomi, Suomi.....

Lehtinen is eager.. :)

Jagr is having an off game...

Oh *******

Jagr is bleeding bad, Ruutu made an ugly tackle.

What a cheap shot by Ruutu.

omg!

Damn Ruutu :rant:

that was really ugly! I wonder what punishment he will get. Brutal.

ugly...nothing else but ugly

Ruutu is such a punk :shakehead

Hope Jagr is OK. Good hit, but unfortunatelly Jagr had his head down.

Does Vancouver have a game vs NYR later this season. I think Orr wants a chat with Ruutu.

Ruutu you jerk! Disgrace! Ugly and unnecessary takle. Not only this was bad tackle but this also hurts the team badly. Yeah, real intelligent J.Ruutu we have here... :shakehead

How much did Ruutu get paid to take out Jagr? Ouch.

Clean hit by NHL standards. Not sure if there's anything different in Olympic hockey.

Screw you Ruutu.....

game misconduct for Ruuttuu

Good hit? "OK"

Ruutu is sent off the game.

Jagr is just too hot, hope the Finns find a way to stop him.

Not this way though :shakehead

Clean hit by NHL standards. Not sure if there's anything different in Olympic hockey.

Big hit. Need to drop the gloves after that hit.

Damn... this will mess up Finland's game. Sometimes I just hate Jarkko Ruutu...

Keep your head up!

I can't call anything like that clean....Jagr was defenseless. I'm sick of all of Jarko Ruutu's crap.

Keep your head up?! He's battling along the boards for the puck. You people and that nonsense :shakehead

Clean hit by NHL standards. Not sure if there's anything different in Olympic hockey.

this check was FAR from a clean hit, jagrs head was down and right next to the boards.. you dont go for the head when you see a player is right next to the boards with it..
ruutu deserves to have his clock cleaned

Clean hit by NHL standards. Not sure if there's anything different in Olympic hockey.
:shakehead
No way is that a clean hit in the NHL. Its charging at the very least. What a pathetic puke Ruutu is.

That was a blatant boarding/charging against a player in a defenseless position. 100% dirty hit, but what else is new from Ruutu.

Ville N taking the penalty for Ruutu.

Ruutu is a cheap shot artist. The definition of cheap shot artist. MAN that was ugly. Should get a two game suspension. Disgusting hit.

Geeez what a freaking ugly hit. I hope he gets suspended for the rest of the tournament. Ruutu is such a moron.

CHEAP! :madfire:

Well, unnecessary tackle from Ruutu. But Jagr also ducked down in the situation.

Hmmm.....maybe Jagr will use something else than Joga 235 after this....hopefully he´s ok though.

The best way to give Ruutu some payback is to win the game.

Charging right at the head on a defenceless player half & half turned towards the boards.

Ruutu once again shows his true colors, and he laughed afterwords even though Jagr was bleeding all over the ice, if I was a Finn I would be ashamed.

....hopefully he´s ok though.

yup, at least he could walk off the ice

a bit woozy, but probably just a couple of stitches

:shakehead
No way is that a clean hit in the NHL. Its charging at the very least. What a pathetic puke Ruutu is.

My thoughts exactly. Just a stupid hit on a guy.

That was a blatant boarding/charging against a player in a defenseless position. 100% dirty hit, but what else is new from Ruutu.

I'll give you boarding, but since it wasn't from behind, what determines a "defenseless" position? You're taught since you were 2 to keep your head up, Jagr had his head down and didn't see it coming. He was defenseless because he wasn't aware of his surroundings. I think it was dirty because of the head shot, but players have to share some blame for having their head down.

And here I was hoping we wouldn't see this side of Ruutu in this tournament... sigh. :shakehead

Hope Jagr is fine.

Charging right at the head on a defenceless player half & half turned towards the boards.

Ruutu once again shows his true colors, and he laughed afterwords even though Jagr was bleeding all over the ice, if I was a Finn I would be ashamed.
Believe me, I am. Jarkko Ruutu is a disgrace and I am ashamed that he is a fellow finn. Hopefully he will be punished by Team Finland management also.

Yeah, that stuff doesn't belong in the Olympics. Or the NHL. :shakehead

Let's hope he recovers quickly!

Damn... this will mess up Finland's game. Sometimes I just hate Jarkko Ruutu...

I hate Jarkko Ruutu when he does something stupid, but hitting is part of hockey. Unfortunately Jagr got hurt, but the hit was perfectly clean and a penalty, especially a 5+20 is ridiculous. Ruutu got the penalty because the injured player was Jagr, and because there was blood. The hit itself was legal.

Maybe his silly Jofa helmet cut his scalp??

IMHO (might be biased) Keep your freakin head up

Jagr was like 10cm away from the boards if even that. That just is not boarding.

Oh please, it wasn't a clean hit, drop it. What Ruutu did was nothing but stupid and ugly, but maybe you'll need that hit to realize it.

I'll give you boarding, but since it wasn't from behind, what determines a "defenseless" position? You're taught since you were 2 to keep your head up, Jagr had his head down and didn't see it coming. He was defenseless because he wasn't aware of his surroundings. I think it was dirty because of the head shot, but players have to share some blame for having their head down.

That's faulty logic. So if a player falls to his knees, and another player comes along and elbows him into next week, then the player who gets hit should share the blame for putting himself in that position eh?

Noticed that Marek Zidlicky had a few words for Ruutu as he walked off the ice. Wonder if this will carry over to the game coming up in Nashville between Vancouver and the Preds??? Gotta think that some mouthing will take place. LOL!!

I hate Jarkko Ruutu when he does something stupid, but hitting is part of hockey. Unfortunately Jagr got hurt, but the hit was perfectly clean and a penalty, especially a 5+20 is ridiculous. Ruutu got the penalty because the injured player was Jagr, and because there was blood. The hit itself was legal.

Maybe his silly Jofa helmet cut his scalp??

You must be from Finland. :biglaugh:

Ruutu must be a popular guy in NY after that hit

Well, back to business... 2-1 Finland. WOOO! :handclap:

goal!

maybe it's time to get back to the game?

This is one amazing game!

2-1 Suomi

That's faulty logic. So if a player falls to his knees, and another player comes along and elbows him into next week, then the player who gets hit should share the blame for putting himself in that position eh?

Who cares? Jagr was on his feet with his head down.

Finnish number one line comes through once again.. 2-1...

Odd how the Czech's remind me so of my beloved Preds this season. Penalties will KILL you in a game like this. LOL!! I am beating a dead horse, I know.

Ugly hit... :shakehead
Too bad Ruutu was sent off ice. I would have liked to see him on the ice to take a correspondning penalty... :teach:

2-1 Finland at 15:02 of the second period. Lehtonhen(?) scores.

Who cares? Jagr was on his feet with his head down.

There goes some more faulty logic.

It didnt look at all that dirty. Boarding for sure Ill give ya that one. But given the combo of the boards being higher than the NHL, Jagr ducking at the last minute due to his head being down, and Jagr's choice of helmet which is illegal in the NHL, it all looks worse than it would have if it was an NHL game. Just my opinion though.

2-1 Finland at 15:02 of the second period. Lehtonhen(?) scores.

Probably Lehtinen? ;)

Ugly hit... I would have liked to see him on the ice to take a correspondning penalty...

+1

I just tuned into this one after watching the US game, how has Niitty been?

Who cares? Jagr was on his feet with his head down.

It's not like he was skating up-ice with his head down and Ruutu met him at full speed crossing the blueline or something. He was stationary digging around along the boards for the puck. Ruutu could have come in to try and take the puck, tried to get body position on Jagr, or tried to bump him out of the way. Instead he came in looking for the hit that would cause the maximum injury to Jagr.

Very nervous game. There will be a bench clearing brawl at the end of the game :teach:

You must be from Finland. :biglaugh:


Yes I am.

Explain what was dirty in that hit? Players should keep their heads up, especially when they are at the boards. Ruutu hit him ON THE SHOULDER. What is wrong with that? Isnt that what hitting is about?

It was unfortunate, but clean. Jagr was only inches away from the boards, so its not boarding.

So what is the problem?

Believe me, I am. Jarkko Ruutu is a disgrace and I am ashamed that he is a fellow finn. Hopefully he will be punished by Team Finland management also.


The thing that made it even worse, was the fact that he had a big smirk on his face after the situation was over.

cant get over how much I hate that smug son of a...

I really hope that someone takes care of him when he gets back to the NHL, and this coming from someone thats neither a Jagr, a Rangers or a Czech-fan.

Huh? The goal was Koivu's though? Pretty scrappy garbage goal and didn't see the official statsline but it seemd like a Koivu (or Selanne) goal, assisted by Jere.. no?

Ironically Ruutu was replaced by Ville Nieminen. Ville must be delighted with Ruutu.

Very nervous game. There will be a bench clearing brawl at the end of the game :teach:

Ruutu will fight Bertuzzi!!!!!!!11111

Idiot Ruutu. No respect to other players.

Anybody who approved to an action like that which intends or at least takes into account a serious injury is just not a decent human beeing or a sportsman who is dedicated to fairplay.

Jagr is a great player and seeing him beeing injured and unable to compete for a medal because of such an ugly move is simply sad.

So this all begs a question. Should World Hockey and NHL all get together and decide upon a uniform standard for equipment (helmets), board height, rink size??? Just a shot in the dark.

Oh yeah great...

That's faulty logic. So if a player falls to his knees, and another player comes along and elbows him into next week, then the player who gets hit should share the blame for putting himself in that position eh?

Elbowing is illegal, checking is not.

Still a dirty hit though.

What a disgraceful dive by Erat. :shakehead

Thanks ref... way to even it out...

EDIT: Oh yeah, and nice dive by Erat...

So this all begs a question. Should World Hockey and NHL all get together and decide upon a uniform standard for equipment (helmets), board height, rink size??? Just a shot in the dark.

Maybe. Not sure, not rink size at least.

Zidlicky so awesome

top game so far

2-2 awesome slapper!

Zidlicky 2-2 :cry:

Man, I love Zidlicky. Wow.

Amazing shot. Doesn't matter that the goalie has a clean view there.

That's why we love this guy in Nashville. He has a wrister from H*ll!

The fins forward got too aggressive on that kill, allowed Zidlicky to just walk right in and rip one and it was a great shot, not really any chance for Niitty.

Perfectly placed shot. No chance for Niitty there. Never knew zidlicky had such a laser.

That's why we love this guy in Nashville. He has a wrister from H*ll!

I believe you are allowed to say hell.

It's not like he was skating up-ice with his head down and Ruutu met him at full speed crossing the blueline or something. He was stationary digging around along the boards for the puck. Ruutu could have come in to try and take the puck, tried to get body position on Jagr, or tried to bump him out of the way. Instead he came in looking for the hit that would cause the maximum injury to Jagr.

I already said it was dirty. For sure there was a better way to go about it, such as what you've already said. I'm just saying, Jagr had his head down and it wasn't from behind, I don't think it was worthy of 5 and a game.

Maybe. Not sure, not rink size at least.


See, I debated putting that in there. But for discussion sake, I did. The other two are very debatable at this point.

The crowd is all cheering for the czech now, great game so far!

Ruutu aside this has been a great game so far.

Aaah.. This tournament reminds me how good looking Sccandinavian women are..

I already said it was dirty. For sure there was a better way to go about it, such as what you've already said. I'm just saying, Jagr had his head down and it wasn't from behind, I don't think it was worthy of 5 and a game.

That was cheap as hell....and erat took the most insane dive there at the end of the 2nd.....good game tho

I believe you are allowed to say hell.

I'm just so used to posting on the other boards, that I get all caught up in the politically correct thing. You understand I am sure. My apoligies to the TRUE hockey fans out there, LOL!!! :yo:

he has a wrister from HELL! There, that was much better.

That hit on Jagr was disgusting. I just saw it. :shakehead :rant:

Aaah.. This tournament reminds me how good looking Sccandinavian women are..

you mean Ruutu?

Anybody who approved to an action like that which intends or at least takes into account a serious injury is just not a decent human beeing or a sportsman who is dedicated to fairplay.

Jagr is a great player and seeing him beeing injured and unable to compete for a medal because of such an ugly move is simply sad.


The thing is...hockey is a physical sport. I absolutely hate players getting injured, but on the other hand, if it is within the rules, it is ok.

People might DIE because of hits, but if they are clean hits, then the dead person knew the risks. If it's dirty, it should be taken to court.

What Ruutu did was a clean hit with unfortunate results. Still, it should not reward a penalty, because all he did was play hockey.

you mean Ruutu?

I said good looking.. ;)

I said good looking.. ;)

:sarcasm:

I missed the first 1.5 periods of this game, can anyone tell me how Niitty has played? I know he had no chance on the 2nd one, did he have a chance on the 1st? Has he made any nice saves? Thanks for your help.

The thing that made it even worse, was the fact that he had a big smirk on his face after the situation was over.

cant get over how much I hate that smug son of a...

I really hope that someone takes care of him when he gets back to the NHL, and this coming from someone thats neither a Jagr, a Rangers or a Czech-fan.

That's not very nice thing to say about someone :sarcasm:

If the Chezh keep diving like that i need go buy some more beer... unfortunately they don't sell it after 9pm anywhere but bars :shakehead

And i still think it was a clean hit... he didn't hit him on the head, he wasnt away from boards... atleast it wasn't boarding. Keep your head up!!! :madfire:

I missed the first 1.5 periods of this game, can anyone tell me how Niitty has played? I know he had no chance on the 2nd one, did he have a chance on the 1st? Has he made any nice saves? Thanks for your help.
He's been good, he went out swimming on the first goal, but it was a nice move by Zidlicky.

What Ruutu did was a clean hit with unfortunate results.

You cant mean that mate. That was ugly.

I said good looking.. ;)
:D

Anybody who approved to an action like that which intends or at least takes into account a serious injury is just not a decent human beeing or a sportsman who is dedicated to fairplay.

Jagr is a great player and seeing him beeing injured and unable to compete for a medal because of such an ugly move is simply sad.


Doesnt matter if it was Jagr or any other star, could´ve been a fourthliner in Latvia, it was still a disgusting hit on a defenceless player. there wasnt shoulder to shoulder, it was shoulder/elbow towards the head, he even aimed lower than any usual hit would be in that situation, simply cause he wanted to hit the head and take Jagr out of the game.

This takes me back to the Niedermayer Vs Forsberg incident, you all know what Im talking about. :madfire:

And dont use the word "sportsmanship" and Ruutu in the same sentence pls, atleast if it doesnt include "no".

Suspend him and then pull a Bertuzzi Vs Moore on his *** back in the NHL.

I love the physical part of hockey, noone likes a clean hit more than I do, this however had nothing to do with this sport.

You cant mean that mate. That was ugly.

Not entirely clean. But had Jagr not crouched at the last second, the result wouldn't have been as bad.

Explain what was dirty in that hit

No explanation necessary.

Aaah.. This tournament reminds me how good looking Sccandinavian women are..
I love them :eek:

:D

I love your name, and I love your avatar. Well done!

Just had to say that.

I think it was an awful hit by Ruutu and worth the penalty he got. I really hope Jagr will be OK, although I can't help but wonder if a proper helmet could have protected him more. You could see the Jofa helmet bend in the replay.

Anyway, I think 2-2 is pretty fair after 2 periods. Some weak calls both ways, but the game is still wide open.

Do you play ice hockey?

I do.

If i make a hit, i do it for a purpose.
I try to knock the puck carrier of the puck.

You can use the amount of power you need to accomplish that goal, or you can try to hit as hard as you can.

Jagr lost the battle for the puck already. There was no need to bump into him like that. It did not change the play on the ice at all. However it took a verry good player out of the game, and that is what he wanted to do.

As a matter of fakt he increased finlands chance to win by taking jagr out. That was absolutely intentional and to be honest i'd ban this guy from the olympics.

Else we get another Bertuzi situation where some Jagr NHL teammate tries to kill Rutuu during the next game.

What Ruutu did was a clean hit with unfortunate results. Still, it should not reward a penalty, because all he did was play hockey.


Ruutu dont even know what hockey is, apparently, neither do you.

I might be a homer, but thats atleast better than being a total idiot defending and even supporting things like this.

I already said it was dirty. For sure there was a better way to go about it, such as what you've already said. I'm just saying, Jagr had his head down and it wasn't from behind, I don't think it was worthy of 5 and a game.

Folks, I gotta tell you. I'm watching this in HD with my DVR and I'm watching it in slow motion. Jagr is not on his knees. Rutuu does not lead with his elbow. Jagr had given up possession just a split second prior. And above all else, it is not boarding by any definition of the term.

Quite honestly, I am struggling to see how this is a "dirty" hit moreso than it was "Jagr's bleeding, it must've been illegal~!"

No explanation necessary.

Quoted for emphasis. :)

It wasn't a boarding but it was a very blatant charging penalty. Ruutu came at him full speed. True Jagr did duck and that made the situation even worse, but the fact remains that he did charge to make that bodycheck. On top of this, Jagr was fighting for the puck with another finn and there was absolutely 0 need for any kind of bodycheck.

Different thing entirely if Ruutu really was dumb enough to try and injure Jagr. I don't think he did, but I'm really not too sure about that either.

As for Zidlicky, his offensive skills seem to be very underrated in the NHL, wish we could pry him back to HIFK :D

You cant mean that mate. That was ugly.

Ugly yes, legal yes.

What was wrong with that hit? Is Ruutu responsible for Jagr playing with bad helmet?

Folks, I gotta tell you. I'm watching this in HD with my DVR and I'm watching it in slow motion. Jagr is not on his knees. Rutuu does not lead with his elbow. Jagr had given up possession just a split second prior. And above all else, it is not boarding by any definition of the term.

Quite honestly, I am struggling to see how this is a "dirty" hit moreso than it was "Jagr's bleeding, it must've been illegal~!"
I agree, I really didn't think it was that bad. If Jagr pops right back up there, I don't think Ruutu gets a penalty for that hit, just my opinion.

Folks, I gotta tell you. I'm watching this in HD with my DVR and I'm watching it in slow motion. Jagr is not on his knees. Rutuu does not lead with his elbow. Jagr had given up possession just a split second prior. And above all else, it is not boarding by any definition of the term.

Quite honestly, I am struggling to see how this is a "dirty" hit moreso than it was "Jagr's bleeding, it must've been illegal~!"

Ramming a guy's head into the boards just isn't cool. I don't care what league or what rules. I don't stand for head shots.

It wasn't a boarding but it was a very blatant charging penalty. Ruutu came at him full speed. True Jagr did duck and that made the situation even worse, but the fact remains that he did charge to make that bodycheck. On top of this, Jagr was fighting for the puck with another finn and there was absolutely 0 need for any kind of bodycheck.

Different thing entirely if Ruutu really was dumb enough to try and injure Jagr. I don't think he did, but I'm really not too sure about that either.

As for Zidlicky, his offensive skills seem to be very underrated in the NHL, wish we could pry him back to HIFK :D

I can agree with you. I have my personal problems with "charging" as a penalty overall. But ok, I can agree that it might have been a 2 minute charging penalty (even though as I have now watched the replay in slow-mo several times Ruutu's leaves one skate on the ice).

It's hits like that which contribute to the frequent injuries of many NHL starsmake the NHL less than it could be.

I hope Jagr's OK, Ruutu's a bum.

No explanation necessary.


Since there is none. Shoulder contact, not boarding, slow speed....

There is no explanation, other than the fact that the other player is a superstar and the other is crap.

But same rules should apply to all. If Jagr would have hit Ruutu like that, it would not have been a penalty, since there was no ground for penalty.

Ramming a guy's head into the boards just isn't cool. I don't care what league or what rules. I don't stand for head shots.

I'm not saying head shots are ok. I'm saying it was basically a side-to-side hit that unintentionally led to Jagr's head going into the boards.

there wasnt shoulder to shoulder, it was shoulder/elbow towards the head

Did you even see the hit? He didnt hit near Jagr's head. His head hit the boards. Nor did he hit with an elbow

And again Selanne! 3-2!

Selänne!!

Teemu "Finnish Flash" Selänne! Yeah baby!!!

Selänne

GOAL

3-2 Finland - Selänne

woooosh that was sweet

Pretty goog game, the hit kind of messed things up though. Z is absolutely deadly, we consider him half Finn anyway :)

Hope Jagr is OK, I love watching him play. I see no reason to crucify Ruutu over that.

And could we have an NHL ref please, please! Anderson doesn't call the obvious holding and hooking, yet somehow manages to find ways to penalize both teams for something that wasn't a call at all or something that should've been a call on another team (the Erat dive). And no that was not boarding.


Selänne!!!! 3-2.

Wohoo! Teemu Selanne scores! :bow:

Vokoun was obviously sleeping. :(

What a soft goal.

Bad play by Vokoun. A goal should not be scored from the goal line.

It's not like he was skating up-ice with his head down and Ruutu met him at full speed crossing the blueline or something. He was stationary digging around along the boards for the puck. Ruutu could have come in to try and take the puck, tried to get body position on Jagr, or tried to bump him out of the way. Instead he came in looking for the hit that would cause the maximum injury to Jagr.

"Jarkko Ruutu should be nice and try to stickcheck Jagr because Jagr likes Kit Kat Bars, and also puppies and kittens..."

That penalty was *********, but I guess the Finns will take it in the end if Jagr is out.

Vokoun was obviously sleeping. :(
Nope,just sweet shot by selanne :sarcasm:

What are the tournament stats for Selanne, Koivu and Lehtinen, including this game? Anyone knows?

Vokoun was obviously sleeping. :(
Ssshhh... Don't wake him up. :D

It wasn't a boarding but it was a very blatant charging penalty. Ruutu came at him full speed. True Jagr did duck and that made the situation even worse, but the fact remains that he did charge to make that bodycheck. On top of this, Jagr was fighting for the puck with another finn and there was absolutely 0 need for any kind of bodycheck.

Theres alot of checks that are thrown where a guy is fighting for the puck and he just gets leveled and they dont see the hit coming. IE Scott Stevens as a prime example. With a NHL legal helmet I doubt Jagr gets split open and maybe doesnt get injured at all

If Kaberle plays the body, Selanne never scores.

Starshollow, seriously. My roommate and I have been watching the hit frame-by-frame. Ruutu does not his with his elbow. Contact is made with the upper arm between the elbow and the shoulder onto Jagr's shoulder.

Selänne !!!

Starshollow: I think flaming others is against the rules so maybe someone else should get off the boards. Im not saying who though

I love your name, and I love your avatar. Well done!

Just had to say that.

Thanks. I love your avatar, can i touch? Pretty please? ;) I would really like to touch her. Scarlett for he win!

Jerry, thats in Sweden!

Lehtinen should win the Torino Selke.. He's so smart.

Nope,just sweet shot by selanne :sarcasm:


Hardly. Money says he makes that save 99% of the time. That was soft by any definition. Lack of focus on the PUCK resulted in that soft shot making its way into the net. Regardless, the Fins have not backed down, and that is to their credit. Love the game so far, perhaps the best thus far?

Finland is absolutely relentless with the shot blocking.

This has been the best hockey game of the tournament so far.

Finland is absolutely relentless with the shot blocking.

This has been the best hockey game of the tournament so far.
Both afternoon games have been tremendous, the US game was the best of the tournament, imo.

Hentunen with the break!

Starshollow, seriously. My roommate and I have been watching the hit frame-by-frame. Ruutu does not his with his elbow. Contact is made with the upper arm between the elbow and the shoulder onto Jagr's shoulder.


He rammed Jagrs head in the boards in a moment where he was totally defenceless, his intention was clearly to take him out of the game, dont even try to tell me otherwise.

Hentunen with the break!
No surprise there that Hentunen froze. :(

Hentunen with the break!

No fear, it's Hentunen. :banghead:

Goal!!!!

(FIN 4-2 CZE) Let's have a Party!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Lehtinen pkrl! 4-2!

He rammed Jagrs head in the boards in a moment where he was totally defenceless, his intention was clearly to take him out of the game, dont even try to tell me otherwise.

His intention was to soften Jagr with a big hit, not to injure him.

Go Finnish First Line...

Goal during the commercial break? You have got to be kidding me.

Score 4-2 Lehtinen! Awesome effort!

Selänne is on pace to break his 76 goal mark :eek:

EDIT: And 132 points.

YES!! YES!! YESSS!! WOOOO! Lehtinen scores his second of the game!

Is there any doubt what the best line in the tournament is? :bow: :yo:

Goal during the commercial break? You have got to be kidding me.
And they wonder why the Olympic ratings are behind American Idol?!?!?

Goal during the commercial break? You have got to be kidding me.

haha :handclap:

man the czechs are in big trouble now :razz:

Wow, nice goal. Our first line is so damn hot. ;)

So, Jagr is out of this game, but will play tomorrow?

Is there any doubt what the best line in the tournament is? :bow: :yo:

And team also ;) :bow:

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.

Goal during the commercial break? You have got to be kidding me.

Heh, I hate to watch NHL games because they always take those breaks when you have commercials, but I guess it would suck even more that way.

ruutu was on a mission.
mission accomplished
czechs got weakened
finns win the game.
hockey at its best...

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.

Damn right!

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.
He he... Nice one there, buddy. :biglaugh:

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.

maybe its the old vancouvian school?

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.

Canada isn't so sweet either.

And team also ;) :bow:


Exiting game! :handclap:

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.

Wrong, like I won't judge Canada to be the dirtiest team because of a single guy like Bertuzzi.

Exiting game! :handclap:

damn right it is ;)

sweet save :handclap:

Finland is officially the dirtiest hockey team on earth.


When there's a team on this tournament that includes ref attackers and career enders like Nash and Bertuzzi, that's not really possible...

Not entirely clean. But had Jagr not crouched at the last second, the result wouldn't have been as bad.
"Not entirely clean"... what the hell does that mean? It's either clean or not. If it's not, it's dirty. If it's dirty and the player gets hurt than Ruutu is a bum. Overcome the fact that your from Finland and use a little logic please.

And he didn't crouch at the last second, he was leaning for the puck when Ruutu was still in the faceoff circle. Ruutu picked up his speed and never slowed down.

And the fact that Ruutu reacted like an ***, skating around smiling and waving as he left the ice makes it even worse. No class. I used to kind of like the Finish team but not any more.

:bow: Jere Lehtinen
:bow: Saku Koivu
:bow: Teemu Selänne
:bow: Olli Jokinen
:bow: Antero Nittymäki

I gotta say I am impressed, for a Canadian living in Finland. I gotta go for the home team, don't I?

I was wondering, should I go see tommorrow's game in a bar or should I stay home, fearing I'll get beaten up?

<3 Finland.

And the fact that Ruutu reacted like an ***, skating around smiling and waving as he left the ice makes it even worse. No class. I used to kind of like the Finish team but not any more.

That's the expression on Ruutu's face all the time... :teach:

I was wondering, should I go see tommorrow's game in a bar or should I stay home, fearing I'll get beaten up?

hmmm...:sarcasm:

I'm wondering... how can Vokoun have such good stats in the NHL when he's that bad?

I was wondering, should I go see tommorrow's game in a bar or should I stay home, fearing I'll get beaten up?

Highly unlikely :cheers:

That's the expression on Ruutu's face all the time... :teach:


That's true. Maybe not all the time, but especially after fights and stuff like that.

I'm wondering... how can Vokoun have such good stats in the NHL when he's that bad?

I was just wondering that too :confused:

I gotta say I am impressed, for a Canadian living in Finland. I gotta go for the home team, don't I?

I was wondering, should I go see tommorrow's game in a bar or should I stay home, fearing I'll get beaten up?

You're living in Lahti? Stay at home, for God's sake!

That's the expression on Ruutu's face all the time... :teach:
lol Yea I know, same with Nieminen. But after you knock a guy out of a game on a dirty hit he should at least show some class

That's true. Maybe not all the time, but especially after fights and stuff like that.


well then he needs a facial surgery...
maybe Dr. Kasparaitis will do the job for the Rangerfans

(Finland 4-2 Czech Republic)

What did i say a couple of hours ago ;)

YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Great game!!!!!!!!!And reports tells that jagr had only minor injury. :yo:

Great game and great result for us. Big win. The Ruutu-Jagr incident drops the score a little bit but still a great game. Next opponent...

Great game. I love the result, but that Ruutu hit almost ruined the whole thing for me.

The interviews in the press tomorrow should be interesting.

I hope Jagr's OK. He was dumb to wear that helmet, but there is no excuse for Ruutu's play.