GDT: Kazakhstan vs. Russia, Feb. 18, 11.30AM Torino, 5.30AM EST

GROUP B: (6) KAZAKHSTAN [0-2-0] vs. (4) RUSSIA [1-1-0]

Date: February 18, 2006

Time: 11.30 AM Torino / 10.30 AM GMT / 5.30 AM EST / 2.30 AM PST

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Go Russia Go!!! I expect 2-3 goals from IK.

Anyone knows who will be in goal?

I can't figure out if I want to wake up and watch this.

Anyone knows who will be in goal?

All we know at this point is that Bryzgalov is the 3rd goalie.

I guess Sokolov will get start.

I can't figure out if I want to wake up and watch this.

Me, too. I guess I'll have to figure out how to actually program my VCR to record instead of manually pressing the record button. :help:

Me, too. I guess I'll have to figure out how to actually program my VCR to record instead of manually pressing the record button. :help:

What channel will this be on?

It has to be Sokolov the goalie, because against Latvia we need Nabokov to be able to beat Latvia with a nice score of 6-0, or 7-0!! Put them back at their place!!

All we know at this point is that Bryzgalov is the 3rd goalie.

I guess Sokolov will get start.

Agreed. This is pretty much the only chance for Sokolov to play in this tournament. Nabby should be fresh for Latvia in anyway...

What channel will this be on?

I think TSN is carrying it in Canada....

When you know for certain that Sokolov will play, post it here. It's very important for my dream team, I am thinking of playing Sokolov next round. :)

What channel will this be on?

According to the TV listings on nbcolympics.com, the game will be on CNBC. There's a place where you can enter your zip/postal code and it will tell you the specific channel numbers on your area's cable system.

It has to be Sokolov the goalie, because against Latvia we need Nabokov to be able to beat Latvia with a nice score of 6-0, or 7-0!! Put them back at their place!!

Where is Slitty? I need to hear what he says during Latvia vs. Russia games!!! :D :bow:

OFFICIAL

Nabokov will start in goal for Russia. :teach:

Weird. :dunno:

OFFICIAL

Nabokov will start in goal for Russia. :teach:

Weird. :dunno:

ya, especially the fact that Nabokov was originally born in Kazakhstan.

On another note, TSN doesnt seem to be showing it, and I live in Canada but have NBC, how do i find out if they're showing it?? I looked on their website, but to no avail.

The game is going to be on CNBC in America.

Thanks for the info. Nabokov it is.

OFFICIAL

Nabokov will start in goal for Russia. :teach:

Weird. :dunno:
Why? And Sokolov against Latvia? That's messed up. I'm much more concerned about Latvia rather than Kazakhstan. I'm pretty sure that Kolesnik will be in goal against us. Anyway, we should not underestimate Latvia's offense. They have 1 less goal than Sweden. And with Irbe being as solid as ever and Latvia defense throwing themselves under pucks... We better have solid goaltending. Latvia could make us pay for the mistakes.

Thanks for the info. Nabokov it is.

OT:

Why don't you have an italian goalie in your dreamteam? germany are not as good as Canada and Finland when it comes to score goals and both Italian goalies have saved 40+ shots :eek:
just saying... I whould save my money for forwards like Hossa, Demitra or Gaborik :yo:

Why? And Sokolov against Latvia? That's messed up. I'm much more concerned about Latvia rather than Kazakhstan. I'm pretty sure that Kolesnik will be in goal against us. Anyway, we should not underestimate Latvia's offense. They have 1 less goal than Sweden. And with Irbe being as solid as ever and Latvia defense throwing themselves under pucks... We better have solid goaltending. Latvia could make us pay for the mistakes.

Who knows, it might work out. To ride Naby while he's on may be a good thing - the team will know that he's the man, things will be stable, and he's not gonna get overworked against Kazakhstan, anyway... Then if we get the points against Kazakhstan and Latvia, could give Sokolov a try in a no-pressure game (at least pointwise) against the US, to try to cure him of his fear of NHLers.

Its ok either way, I think..

Who knows, it might work out. To ride Naby while he's on may be a good thing - the team will know that he's the man, things will be stable, and he's not gonna get overworked against Kazakhstan, anyway... Then if we get the points against Kazakhstan and Latvia, could give Sokolov a try in a no-pressure game (at least pointwise) against the US, to try to cure him of his fear of NHLers.

Its ok either way, I think..
The game against Kazakhstan is the one and only chance for Sokolov, because from now on, we're playing for the 1st place in the group.

The game against Kazakhstan is the one and only chance for Sokolov, because from now on, we're playing for the 1st place in the group.
I honestly don't care about the 1st place, as long as we don't draw the Czechs or Canucks in the 1st round.

Anyone know if this game will be on CBC in Canada? If so, I'm gonna watch it at 2:30am -_-

This should be one of the easiest games for Russia. 5-1 Russia.

the game is in 5 hours and i don't know if i should go to bed for those 5 hours or wait it out..

anyways, i was sure Sokolov would get the start here for the reasons that were already mentioned. I guess they'll play him today, and then rest him for Sunday so that he's fresh for the game against the US

anyways, I would like to take this opportunity to say:

Go Russia!!!

3 hours...

We should go through both Kazakhstan and Latvia without any difficulties, and what's more important, without inujries. It would be better if we come up to the game against the US without any problems...

i'm looking at dishnetwork channels, and all i seem to have is NBC.. the only CNBC channel is CNBC world and it doesn't seem like that one's going to show the game, or am i wrong?

Where is Slitty? I need to hear what he says during Latvia vs. Russia games!!! :D :bow:


Sorry, I cant provide any entertainment this time around. I am still on the verge of banishment from Hfboards thanks to the warning points I picked up last time Latvia played Russia. Apparently I was being racist against Russians.

Sorry, I cant provide any entertainment this time around. I am still on the verge of banishment from Hfboards thanks to the warning points I picked up last time Latvia played Russia. Apparently I was being racist against Russians.

You racist pig, you make me sick

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Anyways, they're already on the ice, taking some shooting drills.

And I didn't sleep well. I hope it's not the players' case.

i'm looking at dishnetwork channels, and all i seem to have is NBC.. the only CNBC channel is CNBC world and it doesn't seem like that one's going to show the game, or am i wrong?

you still have that "backup" RussianTV :propeller

SHAIBUUUU ROSSIJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bow:

this game can be called "Russia vs. Russia 5". 14 Russian citizens on the Kazakh squad!!!

you still have that "backup" RussianTV :propeller

yep! but i was hoping to watch it on tv.. the only CNBC i found was CNBC world and that one is showing some program about Pakistan :/

yep! but i was hoping to watch it on tv.. the only CNBC i found was CNBC world and that one is showing some program about Pakistan :/

Pakistan? woohoo! Go Pakistan!!! :sarcasm:

Pakistan? woohoo! Go Pakistan!!! :sarcasm:

Yeah, it's very exciting! Made me forget that there's a hockey game coming up!

Lousy PP for Russia there..

I love it how the Italians are rooting for the underdog so much in this tournament..

Kazakhstan > Russia

I've the impression of watching some crappy RSL game

Big save by Nabokov!

I love it how the Italians are rooting for the underdog so much in this tournament..

Thats the Italian way, always support the underdog (unless its against Italy)

It looks like SUI vs. CZE so far :(

Italy almost always IS the underdog, so that's no problem with that philosophy.

Italy almost always IS the underdog, so that's no problem with that philosophy.

And thats why we enjoy cheering for the underdog so much, it usually is Italy...but if you take World Cup football for example, the Italians enjoy watching the middle-lower ranked teams win (eg. South Korea) as long as its not against Italy :)

What a crappy game ! The only spotlight : Nabokov !

What a crappy game ! The only spotlight : Nabokov !

I'm really concerned about Nabokov playing this game...only because it sets up for the perfect upset victory by Kazakhstan

Crappy indeed. I'm sorry that I jinxed the Russian team by selecting Nabokov and Malkin for my dream team this round.

Penalty Malkin for roughing. Damn you Malkin! That's -2 points! :rant:

malkin :eek: :D

Kazakhs are fairly impressive with their defensive teamwork. They manage to neutrulize all the Russian attempts to build any offensive momentum. The game might be boring but it should be a good lesson for the Russian side.

0:0.No surprise for me. A typical Russia VS underdog game :)

1st period is over and there's not much to write home about. Yeremeyev made some good saves, but c'mon.

The referee sucks. Malkin lays out a big hit, and they call him for roughing?

Overall, an awful period by the Russians. Absolutely no offense.

The Swedish commentators think it was an ugly tackle by Malkin, too high speed.

The referee sucks. Malkin lays out a big hit, and they call him for roughing?



Agreed.

It seems like everytime there is a hit that would be a big clean hit in the NHL its a penalty in the Olympics.

That's the one thing I hate about Olympic hockey.

Damn, worst period for Russia on this tournament. The only good forward is Su-33. Kovalchuk, blah, he is just missing the game :( "The best play" was cross-ice pass (again) that had 2 Kazakhs on the way. Ovechkin and Malkin are trying to hit something instead of creating scoring chances. You are not goons or checking liners! :(

According to the rules of hockey, you can't accelerate with your skates more than three times before a tackle. Malkin did.

Damn, worst period for Russia on this tournament. The only good forward is Su-33. Kovalchuk, blah, he is just missing the game :( "The best play" was cross-ice pass (again) that had 2 Kazakhs on the way. Ovechkin and Malkin are trying to hit something instead of creating scoring chances. You are not goons or checking liners! :(

Agree on Kovalchuk. He better stars playing better !

Malkin hit the guy who passed the puck away a long time ago I think.. I don't have a problem with that penalty.

We've gotta start playing better though. Seems that a lot of players think that they can use individual skill to win and forget about the players around them..

come on guys, keep posting!!!

no coverage here

yes, they're definetly being too individualistic

come on guys, keep posting!!!

no coverage here

what do you expect us to post? comments on what Krikunov is doing to Bryzgalov in the dressing room during the intermission? :p

2nd period beginning now

The City of Pittsburgh is ignorant. Malkin looks better than Crosby. And yet they still don't want to give them a new arena.

back to topic Malkin is amazing, the total package.

The referee sucks. Malkin lays out a big hit, and they call him for roughing?

Overall, an awful period by the Russians. Absolutely no offense.


He used his elbow, pretty obvious to me.

I like what I am seeing from Nabokov, he made some key saves. This is the type of the game Russia would lose in 2000. Kazakhstan is awkward and had some opportunities.

Russia's playing a step below solid, they need to pick up the pace if they want to get a decisive win, if any, and they need a ****in' win.

Malkin hit the guy who passed the puck away a long time ago I think.. I don't have a problem with that penalty.



It wouldn't be a penalty in the NHL, that was maybe a second after he passed the puck.

He used his elbow, pretty obvious to me.

shoulder with elbow extension...just like every hit Scott Stevens threw in his career.

5:3 Pp

Kovalchuk, you suck.

Its a joke really a joke :dunno:

I'm still here with advise from previous game to gather Kovalchuk and Afinogenov on the bench.

Kovalchuk is becoming an offensive liability. His scoring touch is non-existent.

How the *insert your favourite expletive* did we not score with 5 on 3 advantage????

what do you expect us to post? comments on what Krikunov is doing to Bryzgalov in the dressing room during the intermission? :p

uhm yes! :propeller

2nd period beginning now

alright ;)

This game is getting frustrating, if Russia loses I'm going to be pissed. There's no reason this should be a 0-0 game almost halfway through.

In all unbiased seriousness, these refs suck big time. They're making **** calls at both ends.

what do you expect us to post? comments on what Krikunov is doing to Bryzgalov in the dressing room during the intermission? :p



what? :dunno:

Yep, just confirmed, Kovalchuk is clueless.

Put it in the net already!!!

what? :dunno:

you can find more info on it on the Russia board..

RSL guys!!!

Kharitonov!!!!!!!!!! Yes. Superleaguers can only be beat by other Superleaguers.

Su is the man ! Kharitov scores :eek:

Su-33 is the best forward so far

PHEW!!! 1:0! Kharitonov on wraparound after Sushinsky's initial shot

I love Sushinsky.. He was a favorite of mine in Salt Lake and he's impressing once again..

Believe me or not but yesterday I said that Kharitonov would score first!

These NBC announcers are pissing me off. "We need to get these guys to the NHL", what the hell's wrong with the RSL? Bah!

Anyway, yeah, yay, goal! Power play, too, yay.

I must agree that Malkin and Sushinsky are the best forwards on the ice. I really do think that Kovalchuk should be replaced with Ovechkin.

powerplay for Russia

We just cant score :dunno:

That was nice that they were too busy showing commercials to show the game. It's not like anything important happened, like say a goal being scored. :shakehead

Seems like Frolov's shoulder is bothering him.

ha ha ha PP again and again ......

Seems like Frolov's shoulder is bothering him.

hope its not sirios :(

hope its not sirios :(

Yeah.. he's sitting on the bench though and didn't leave for the dressing room, so hopefully that's a good sign

5 on 3 for Russia again

Our PP sucks big time oh boy :shakehead

How much did they pay to Koavalchuk ? Why is he skating with Tyutint on PP :(

Kovalchuk has been invisable so far..

This is the 2nd time that Russia is penalized for having too many men on the ice. C'mon Krikunov, shape up.

Nabokov is our best player in this Olympics that for sure :teach:

Kovalchuk just can't perform in big games. He is like Alfredsson - good regular season scorer.

malkin is so dangerous on the PK its crazy :eek:

and another PP

OMG the PP is way tooooo static. Even Kazakhstan's PP is more dangerous!

Oh again 5 on free :biglaugh:

As far as Kovalchuk goes, he looks pretty lost out there. Whenever he gets the puck, he's always in an uncomortable position with it and he just floats around there without much purpose.

I think it's because his line is not playing on him. I mean Datsyuk and Kovalev don't just concentrate on getting the puck to Ilia, and it seems that he needs everyone to pass to him in order to be successful.

Maybe a line shakeup is in order. I'd keep the Malkin and Yashin lines in tact, but maybe we can move up Frolov to the top line and play Kovalchuk with Kozlov and Korolyuk (KKK line???)...

Kovalchuk just can't perform in big games. He is like Alfredsson - good regular season scorer.


agree and Afinogenov SUCKS BIG TIME

You know, after watching Su-Ma-Kha line 3rd game in a row I start to think that having Morozov-Zinovjev-Zaripov line instead of some suckers isn't that bad idea.

yeah, Afinogenov's also been disappointing so far..

2nd period over. 1:0 for the men in red jerseys.

Anybody saw USA- SWE yesterday :shakehead

Jesus Christ, this is pathetic. Endless 5 on 3 and they just can't create any serious offense. Shoot the damn puck, pass it left and right, fake some shots!

On the other hand Yeremeyev is playing strong, and he probably knows the Russians well, especially Krikunov's strategy.

Watching this game, I must say, Afinogenov is frustrating. He has great wheels and that's about it.



You can also tell the players for Russia haven't played together much. Plenty of chances to pass, but trying to do a little too much themselves.

Really i think Latvia is MUCH stronger than Kasachstan. I hope our team wakes up ! Oh boy we need some line changes thats fro sure !

They should probably start scoring soon.

Shots : 38-17 ...

Guys but finally we have a Nr1 Goalie !!! Nabokov rocks ! :bow:

Guys but finally we have a Nr1 Goalie !!! Nabokov rocks ! :bow:

Yes, he's got the confidence right now.

end of 2nd.
no flow to game. lots of hits, hooks, grabs, penalties. everything is clogged.

russia's PP isn't scoring, even on the several 5 on 3's. kovalchuk would have scored if not for a bad pass. russians have hit 2-3 posts.

malkin has been russia's best player! :bow: that hit was great--definitely shouldn't have been a penalty. i think it may well be true that malkin is better than ovechkin. he's a great passer, excellent stickhandler, throws hits, and is good on defense and PK. and he's so thin. if he were big like ovechkin, he could be the next lindros.

russians have shot themselves in foot a few times. they take a couple of dumb penalties while on PP. i don't know why afinogenov is on the PP. :shakehead

russians were robbed at the end of 2nd. d markov's G should have counted. should have been delayed penalty, but ref whistled it anyway.

kovalchuk hasn't looked good today either. but russia has been on PP so much in 2nd that it has been hard to tell how everyone is playing.

I'm suicidal right now

absolutly no PP :shakehead

Kovalchuk just can't perform in big games. He is like Alfredsson - good regular season scorer.
Kovalchuks is more like Markus Näslund. They both can't perform on big ice. Alfredsson usually delivers. He did so vs. Kazakstan.

As for the game, if Russia refuses to crash the net and screen the stellar goalie, they won't score. They don't want to get dirty and it'll cost them.

No easy breakaway goals this game. No screen on the PP as vs. Sweden.

Damn. Ovechkin is playing on 4th line instead of Frolov :(

So is Frolov injured?

Damn. Ovechkin is playing on 4th line instead of Frolov :(

Any news on Frolov ? :cry:

Hopefully they are just resting Frolov for the next game. Russia can't afford to to lose him.

Kovalev is so skilled with the puck it should be outlawed. He is like a Forsberg, except for the strength, winning mentality and defensive skills.

russia's PP needs to move more; to often it's just the puck that moves. and sometimes the russians are playing on PP w/o calm--like they're desperate b/c they haven't scored on 5 on 3's--4 of them!!!!!!!

Kovalchuk should be on the fourth line, not Ovechkin. Kovalchuk hasn't had a right for the entire tournament. He pretty much looks like Näslund did last tournament.

Kovalchuk should be on the fourth line, not Ovechkin. Kovalchuk hasn't had a right for the entire tournament. He pretty much looks like Näslund did last tournament.

I think they are double-shifting Ovechkin, if Frolov is not playing. So Ovechkin plays both in the second line and in the fourth line.

What a bad shift by Tyutin and Volchenkov :(

What a bad shift by Tyutin and Volchenkov :(
Yep, probably their worst of the tournament. They've been very good together so far.

as awkward as it is for me to say this (having Russia as my tip for gold) I think Kazakhstan deserves this match, their intensity has been great, they've defended well and generated some chance against a much stronger and should be better team

I wonder if the Russians underestimated the Kazakhs and didn't prepare for this game like they should have.

Oooh, very close to 1-1 there. Nice dribbling by the Kazak player. Good double save by Nabokov. He has been perfect so far in his two games.

It's my fault Russia isn't winning by a bigger margin. I picked two Russian players for my dream team and jinxed the whole team. Has been the same the whole tournament. Guess what happened when I picked Vokoun as my captain in goal for Czech Republic vs SUI? I can mention I also picked Elias... *cough cough*.

Oooh, very close to 1-1 there. Nice dribbling by the Kazak player. Good double save by Nabokov. He has been perfect so far in his two games.

Nabokov is the reasons why the Kazakhs aren't in front...in more ways than one

Nabokov is the reasons why the Kazakhs aren't in front...in more ways than one

Oh please :biglaugh:

Nabokov is clearly the best goalie of the tournament.

Nabokov is clearly the best goalie of the tournament.

At this stage, i'd second that...he usually is a better goalie in the NHL too, but early this season it was 'lights out no ones home'

What a run by Kovalchuk :biglaugh:

Oh please :biglaugh:

So.....Are the Russians just toying with them? Trying not to embarass a former memeber of the CCCP?

Ovechkin is sick just sick :eek:

:biglaugh: one more time

SHoot the frigging puck!!! Don't pass!!!!

Atleast they chose the right team to lay an egg against.

Player of the game: Vitality Yemeryev. What a game. But the Russians bombarded him with alot of easy shots, virtually no screening at all. But he killed alot of 5v3. When you save over 50 shots, you do a good game.

What a beautiful game this has been! Maybe the game of the year? :sarcasm:

AND MALKIN HITS THE NET!

Crap...hope he's not hurt

Nabokov: 2 shutouts in 2 games. :bow:

WE WON :eek: :eek: :eek:

This was antihockey....

I woke up at 4 AM to watch THAT?

I woke up at 4 AM to watch THAT?
Life is hard :D

You can put it in the Win Column, Russia 1-0 Kazakhstan

I woke up at 4 AM to watch THAT?

Volchenkov was not that bad ;)

Life is hard :D
I wanted to watch my boy Anton play, and he barely did with all those powerplays. Damn.

But like I said, atleast Russia sucked against the right team.

I woke up at 4 AM to watch THAT?
It was more entertaining game than I expected it to be.

I woke up at 4 AM to watch THAT?

Oh and i hate the "World Cup" :D

I wanted to watch my boy Anton play, and he barely did with all those powerplays. Damn.
Well, you were able to watch his worst shift on this tournament so far ;)

The Russian Superleague made its way to Torino!!! 1-0!!!

Well, you were able to watch his worst shift on this tournament so far ;)
Good point. :D

Oh well, a win is a win for Russia, but they can't pull that with Latvia or the USA.

damn, nabokov is the best goalie in this tournament, because Khazacstan was actually better than russia in the third period and had 2-3 golden opportunities to tie this game. Weak game by russia.

We need some changes in our team ! Afinogenov on the 4th ! Kovalchuk on the 3rd ! Malkin + Ovechkin playing good hockey

Now I understand why these Superleaguers can get these wins against top competition once in a while (Belarus-Sweden). Hot goalie, couple of lucky bounces and total team effort. Kazakhstan played teir hearts out. They were close to tying the game but Nabokov was great. There was a moment for about 5 minutes in the third period when Kazakhs dominated the game, it was scary.

Shots : 50-24!!!

PP : Russia 0/8!!! Kazakhstan 0/7!!!

A hell of a match! :D

I predict they will meet again in the final! :sarcasm:

We lost the game but we got 2 points in the standings. Good. I hope the team makes some conclusions out of this and plays differently in the future games at this tournament.

There was a moment for about 5 minutes in the third period when Kazakhs dominated the game, it was scary.

Don't exagerate. They did have 2-3 dangerous rushes, but those rushes looked sooooo dangerous because we were on the brink of ******** our pants! :sarcasm:

now i (think i) know what RSL looks like.

russian PP needs a lot of work. :shakehead not enough movement, usually no one in front of net. they need PP units not lines and D pairs.

malkin is very very good. was definitely russia's best skater.

kovalchuk should play w/ malkin and sushinsky. he is on the ice w/ datsyuk and kovalev, but he seems to not play w/ them enough.
i was thinking frolov would play well w/ datsyuk and kovalev because he plays less selfishly; but he may be out for good. :(

korolyuk played well i thought. ovechkin played well too; he screened the goalie, drew several penalties; but i fear he may get washington syndrome--playing too individually and looking to make amazing highlight plays like he does for washington.

the D didn't look great. not really bad, but far too many errors.

if russia doesn't get much better, i think they'll have very little chance at gold. :(

I don't think Frolov is out. He just took a hit in the shoulder, and it was just better to rest him in the 3rd than aggravate anything.

I don't think Frolov is out. He just took a hit in the shoulder, and it was just better to rest him in the 3rd than aggravate anything.

Remember who he plays for in the NHL. What looks to be an agrivated shoulder, is probably a broken collar bone. :cry:

So as it stands now,

1. Slovakia 2gp 4pts
2. Russia 3gp 4pts
3. USA 2gp 3pts
4. Sweden 2gp 2pts
5. Latvia 2gp 1pt
6. Kazakhstan 3gp 0pts
----------------------------

You can put it in the Win Column, Russia 1-0 Kazakhstan

Moral victory-Kazakhstan

So as it stands now,

1. Slovakia 2gp 4pts
2. Russia 3gp 4pts
3. USA 2gp 3pts
4. Sweden 2gp 2pts
5. Latvia 2gp 1pt
6. Kazakhstan 3gp 0pts
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So if the US beats Slovakia they jump into the lead :yo:


Not that I don't like the Slovakian team, I really do, but USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

So if the US beats Slovakia they jump into the lead :yo:




What's the point of finishing 1st if the Czechs finish 4th in group A? :propeller

What's the point of finishing 1st if the Czechs finish 4th in group A? :propeller


The US get's home ice advantage? :innocent:


Besides the spirit of Brooks will be with us against the Czechs. "Get that god damn koho blue! Bury that Czech right in his face!"

It official. I root for team Kazakhstan.

It official. I root for team Kazakhstan.


I'm with you. I loved the way the played this game.

http://www.armorgraphics.com/EvgeniNabokov.jpg

The most important thing is that Nabokov is playing GREAT! It was really hard to play against Kazakhs. They know how to play against Russia and neutralize all of their strenghts. And we all know that Russia plays bad agianst former USSR countries. Somebody mentioned how only Russian Superleague can beat Russian Superleague and that's true. B team would I think do better against this Kazakh team.

I expect an incredibly tough game tomorrow against Latvia. It will be just more of the same. It will surely be much tougher than against the US. My suggestion for the game would be: play Malkin, Sushinsky, Kharitonov and Ovechkin as much as possible!!! Numbers 18 and 33 are just great!!! :handclap:

The most important thing is that Nabokov is playing GREAT! It was really hard to play against Kazakhs. They know how to play against Russia and neutralize all of their strenghts. And we all know that Russia plays bad agianst former USSR countries. Somebody mentioned how only Russian Superleague can beat Russian Superleague and that's true. B team would I think do better against this Kazakh team.

I expect an incredibly tough game tomorrow against Latvia. It will be just more of the same. It will surely be much tougher than against the US. My suggestion for the game would be: play Malkin, Sushinsky, Kharitonov and Ovechkin as much as possible!!! Numbers 18 and 33 are just great!!! :handclap:


I just hope Frolov is ok ! Put him on the first line ! Malkin should play with Ovy for sure ! And yes give Su-33 2nd line time ! He is that good !

I think this is funny :

Порадовали комментаторы CNBC. По ходу игры они регулярно называли русских -- "совьетс," Марковых -- братьями, а Казахстан -- "Пакистаном".

During the game CNBC's commentators were calling the Russians - "Soviets", the Markovs - brothers, and Kazakhstan - "Pakistan". :D

Priceless! :biglaugh:

I think this is funny :



During the game CNBC's commentators were calling the Russians - "Soviets", the Markovs - brothers, and Kazakhstan - "Pakistan". :D

Priceless! :biglaugh:

What do you expect from that country ? Look at their olympic Ovy profile ! Country : Sowjet Union :biglaugh: What a dumb people :eek:

I think this is funny :



During the game CNBC's commentators were calling the Russians - "Soviets", the Markovs - brothers, and Kazakhstan - "Pakistan". :D

Priceless! :biglaugh:


I sure never heard that. :dunno:

What do you expect from that country ? Look at their olympic Ovy profile ! Country : Sowjet Union :biglaugh: What a dumb people :eek:

Yeah, you would think the Canadian broadcasters we are importing would know more about the sport... :sarcasm:

Doh!

I think this is funny :



During the game CNBC's commentators were calling the Russians - "Soviets", the Markovs - brothers, and Kazakhstan - "Pakistan". :D

Priceless! :biglaugh:
strader was also calling malkin malkov. :shakehead

Yeah, you would think the Canadian broadcasters we are importing would know more about the sport... :sarcasm:

what does confusing Kazakhstan and Pakistan or referring to players as Soviets have to do with knowing the sport?

what does confusing Kazakhstan and Pakistan or referring to players as Soviets have to do with knowing the sport?

Yeah. Clearly this is a question of poor geography. :biglaugh:

Yeah. Clearly this is a question of poor geography. :biglaugh:

and history :teach:

what does confusing Kazakhstan and Pakistan or referring to players as Soviets have to do with knowing the sport?
they aren't so ignorant of the other teams.

Al Michaels would have got it straight! :teach:


:dunno:

they aren't so ignorant of the other teams.

I'm very glad they didn't confuse Canada with Mexico

and history :teach:

Well that doesn't count really. We noble, true people from NA all know there's a little bit of that dirty, nasty, Soviet left in you Russians. :p: :biglaugh:

Well that doesn't count really. We noble, true people from NA all know there's a little bit of that dirty, nasty, Soviet left in you Russians. :p: :biglaugh:

Thats not very nice. :shakehead

Thats not very nice. :shakehead


Uhhhhhhh.... I guess when God was hand out sense of humors you thought he said tumors, and went back for seconds. I pray for you.

Thats not very nice. :shakehead

I think he was joking?

It reminded me the game against Belarus on the 2005 World Championship...

I think he was joking?


Yes! In fact, it was a pretty good verbal caricature of the the whole Cold War!

I think this is funny ...
Kazakhstan - "Pakistan". :D
Well, atleast they didn't miss them with Iran :sarcasm:

Well, atleast they didn't miss them with Iran :sarcasm:

Afghanistan anyone? :sarcasm:

The Soviet Union finally defeated Afghanistan!!! It took over 25 years, but here it is, the victory is ours! 1-0! :sarcasm:

It's starting to look like Krikunov is not a very good coach.

1. we now have 2 "too many men on the ice" penalties in just 3 games. that's inexcusable and this penalty is usuall attributed to the team's coach. how can he tell the players to be more disciplined and take less penalty when he screws up like this himself?

2. the team's powerplay has been atrocious. and i'm not even talking about today's game against Kazakhstan, but the tournament as a whole. a team with as much skill as Russia should be lethal with a man advantage. today they had 2 men advantage 4 times and came up with 0 goals. horrible.

3. none of Russia's players can be accused of not trying out there. they all worked hard on every shift and gave it their all. yet, we beat Kazakhstan 1:0. I'm sorry, but if you are playing your game and everybody is doing their best, it really doesn't matter how Kazakhstan plays because whatever they do, a team with Russia's skill should be winning the game handily if they are all giving their 100%

4. the whole Bryzgalov vs Krikunov thing. at the same time as everyone says that to win we will have to build a team spirit and be together, Krikunov goes out and blames the loss to Slovakia on Bryzgalov, puts him in the press box for the next game and embarasses him in front of the media.

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The coaching staff that we have here in Torino is the best that Russia has to offer probably, but it's clearly not enough.

I just hope Frolov is ok ! Put him on the first line ! Malkin should play with Ovy for sure ! And yes give Su-33 2nd line time ! He is that good !

Frolov is out. :(

Taratukhin will play.

http://www.sovsport.ru/news/default.asp?id=214638

Frolov is out. :(

Taratukhin will play.

http://www.sovsport.ru/news/default.asp?id=214638


I would call Morozov.... But Frolov out really sucks...

It's starting to look like Krikunov is not a very good coach.

1. we now have 2 "too many men on the ice" penalties in just 3 games. that's inexcusable and this penalty is usuall attributed to the team's coach. how can he tell the players to be more disciplined and take less penalty when he screws up like this himself?

2. the team's powerplay has been atrocious. and i'm not even talking about today's game against Kazakhstan, but the tournament as a whole. a team with as much skill as Russia should be lethal with a man advantage. today they had 2 men advantage 4 times and came up with 0 goals. horrible.

3. none of Russia's players can be accused of not trying out there. they all worked hard on every shift and gave it their all. yet, we beat Kazakhstan 1:0. I'm sorry, but if you are playing your game and everybody is doing their best, it really doesn't matter how Kazakhstan plays because whatever they do, a team with Russia's skill should be winning the game handily if they are all giving their 100%

4. the whole Bryzgalov vs Krikunov thing. at the same time as everyone says that to win we will have to build a team spirit and be together, Krikunov goes out and blames the loss to Slovakia on Bryzgalov, puts him in the press box for the next game and embarasses him in front of the media.

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The coaching staff that we have here in Torino is the best that Russia has to offer probably, but it's clearly not enough.

1) Well, I haven't seen this game yet, but the first too many man was bogus.

2) No news here, it's been like this for 20 years

3) OK, you are not saying anything in 3), I don't see the point

4) Have too agree here, but I think it's not the first time they are at it. Didn't they have something last year?

hmmmmmmmmmm What a horor Frolov out :cry:

hmmmmmmmmmm What a horor Frolov out :cry:

IMO it wouldn't be a horror if Morozov would replace Frolov, but Taratukhin??

IMO it wouldn't be a horror if Morozov would replace Frolov, but Taratukhin??
And what's wrong with Taratukhin ? He played well at Eurotour stages. He's good player for 4th line and PK. You can't replace Frolov but he's good choice, Imo.

And what's wrong with Taratukhin ? He played well at Eurotour stages. He's good player for 4th line and PK. You can't replace Frolov but he's good choice, Imo.

He has the most penalties on hes team :teach: :rant:

Pretty scary game for us, but hey, the most important thing is that team Russia got the 2 pts. We have to aknowledge that Yeremeyev played a heck of a game (49 saves!); he should have played like that against the Swedes not us :)

The Good:

Nabokov is mistake-free so far. Knock on wood. Defense is solid. Most of the forwards played very well defensively: Datsyuk, Frolov, Malkin, and Kharitonov would drop back and prevent several odd-man rushes against Nabokov. Penalty killing has been solid for us also.

The Bad:

Our PP really sucks. I think that even Italy would have scored at least one time out of four on 5 on 3s. That was pretty embarrassing!

Turnovers by Kovalchuk.

Frolov's injury is devastating. It sucks! Taratukhin will have to step up.

Conclusion: Defense and goaltending were the two biggest concerns before the tournament started, but since game two our D and G have carried us. This team is loaded with offensive talent, so
it'll find its scoring touch when needed.

And what's wrong with Taratukhin ? He played well at Eurotour stages. He's good player for 4th line and PK. You can't replace Frolov but he's good choice, Imo.

nothing is wrong with Taratukhin. didn't see much of him. but what is wrong with best scorer in RSL?
Morozov played already in Nagano. Taratukhin only in EuroTours games.

He has the most penalties on hes team :teach: :rant:
Just looked at his stats ? :D He had 20+5 in 8:3 win and 10+2 on the last minutes of 4:2 win. Eh ?
Do you know that Taratukhin is 3rd in Eurotour 's scoring only behind Su-33 and Kharitonov ?

PS. Just stop bashing players if their name doesn't tell you a lot. Lets see him in game. We already have 6mil. wonder in first line that only polutes air and adds nothing.

Nabokov again. Why couldn't he do this for the Sharks?

Well I'll answer my own question by saying Russia's D is a little better than the Sharks' D.

nothing is wrong with Taratukhin. didn't see much of him. but what is wrong with best scorer in RSL?
May be the same as with our best NHL scorer ? :sarcasm:

Whoa, what happened? I just woke up, dudes. The Swiss beat Canucks??? :eek: :eek: :eek: What??? After they beat the Czechs??? :eek: :eek: :eek: Wow. That's crazy. And now I read that Kazakhstan had all chances to steal a point from us? Wow. This is an insane tournament. Sweden is gang-banging Latvia, as expected after debacle against Russia.

May be the same as with our best NHL scorer ? :sarcasm:

Morozov is not KovalchAk. you can bet on this :D

Unconfirmed rumor : Vishnevsky has broken ribs. Any confirmation ?

I still hope that Frolov returns. Awesome player!

Pretty scary game for us, but hey, the most important thing is that team Russia got the 2 pts. We have to aknowledge that Yeremeyev played a heck of a game (49 saves!); he should have played like that against the Swedes not us :)

The Good:

Nabokov is mistake-free so far. Knock on wood. Defense is solid. Most of the forwards played very well defensively: Datsyuk, Frolov, Malkin, and Kharitonov would drop back and prevent several odd-man rushes against Nabokov. Penalty killing has been solid for us also.

The Bad:

Our PP really sucks. I think that even Italy would have scored at least one time out of four on 5 on 3s. That was pretty embarrassing!

Turnovers by Kovalchuk.

Frolov's injury is devastating. It sucks! Taratukhin will have to step up.

Conclusion: Defense and goaltending were the two biggest concerns before the tournament started, but since game two our D and G have carried us. This team is loaded with offensive talent, so
it'll find its scoring touch when needed.

I don't know if the D was so good today, it gave up enough shots to a team with very bad offense to receive a bad grade.. Nabokov has been bulletproof, but I think our D is still shaky. But yeah, I agree, its two points, that'll have to do..

If Frolov is out, that sucks big-time, no doubt... And Kovalchuk has played progressively worse in every single game. Probably, there are no easy answers to this, I think its mostly up to him. Today he just played horribly, continuous turnovers - he did not give the 1st line a chance to create anything..

At this point, I would not blame the coaches if they can't get Kovalchuk going, that may be an impossible riddle, but they have to improve the PP - this is their job, and they better get to work on it. In the worst case, I would not mind seeing them simplify everything and do it like Canada - two people in front, and a continuous barrage of shots... as good as our guys are individually, it just does not look like it will click on the PP for us if we play the same way... Like I said, this is where the coaches have to make a difference.

Good effort by Kazakhstan. Especially by their goaltender and their PK units. :)

Good win for Russia. :) Malkin looked really good. :)

Really fun game to watch. :) :handclap:

How was Korolyuk? How much ice time, who are his linemates, etc?

What's the point of finishing 1st if the Czechs finish 4th in group A? :propeller

Good point, with Swiss probably finishing 2nd in group A, and Canada/Czechs probably 3rd & 4th, it really will jumble up the seedings.

I think if there's any advantage, it may be in Semifinal round, because winner of 1B-4A will play 2A-3B (most likely Swiss vs. Sweden). Drawing the winner of Sweden-Swiss in semifinal is about as good a matchup as you can hope for, and better than playing Finland.