Women's hockey GDT: USA vs. Sweden

when they first unveiled those nike uniforms i was a bit weary but thought they were ok. Now watching the u.s. women play against team sweden (who is wearing the old style) I say they look great. Sweden looks like a bunch of lumps and u.s. looks athletic. Those swedish uniforms basically (to me) look absurd next to that of the US women.

Sweden scores 2-1 USA.

And i agree txomisc, those uniforms are pretty nice now when you have gotten used to them.

2-2!!

Go Sweden!

Wow, it looks like the 2002 GMG with all these American powerplays.

Man.. the Oilers should sign this Swedish goalie.

Damn without Kim in goal we would be a couple goals down by now.

Thought women's hockey wasn't competitve?

The American women are overrated. They had trouble with the Finns, and are having much more trouble in this one. They'll prolly win this one (I bet they'll get some more friendly calls from the ref) but will be blown out in the GMG by Canada.

Thought women's hockey wasn't competitve?

The American women are overrated. They had trouble with the Finns, and are having much more trouble in this one. They'll prolly win this one (I bet they'll get some more friendly calls from the ref) but will be blown out in the GMG by Canada.

This has been a great game to watch so far, but the US will win, If they put in that extra gear that is. But i really hope our ladies will upset and get the win.

just found this game on tv hows it been goin down so far?

just found this game on tv hows it been goin down so far?

Well, it's the 2nd intermission now, 2-2. Kim Martin has been playing , well, great! :bow:

USA will probably win though. :(

Sarah Pitiful had four open nets on the five on three. She whiffed on three and put another over the net. Darwitz said to hell with it and wound up with a big slapper after that. This all came with Sweden using about as bad a five on three strategy as you will see. Interesting game because of it all.

wow, just saw the replay of the 2nd goal....TERRIBLE GOAL given up by the US, and a great effort by Sweden.

the first goal wasn't pretty for the US either, probably should have been stopped by the goalie as it went right through the wickets....

the US will win

Probably, but anything can happen.

I am sure you thought "Sweden will win" during that game against Belarus a few years ago.

Probably, but anything can happen.

I am sure you thought "Sweden will win" during that game against Belarus a few years ago.

:D Good call.

:shakehead American PP

Just let them play.

Wow, ANOTHER American PP. This game is becoming a joke.

Body-checking? Huh?

Body-checking? Huh?

Yes please.

Kim Martin is doing great so far.

:shakehead American PP

Just let them play.

Can't let those frail women be body-checked, you know.

Very impressed with this Sweden team...as much as I like the U.S. team I think Sweden going to the Gold medal final would be HUGE for women's hockey!!

Very impressed with this Sweden team...as much as I like the U.S. team I think Sweden going to the Gold medal final would be HUGE for women's hockey!!

+1

It would be good for womens hockey.

Very impressed with this Sweden team...as much as I like the U.S. team I think Sweden going to the Gold medal final would be HUGE for women's hockey!!

I've only been watching for about 10 minutes but the US team is making some pretty poor decisions with the puck. How many times do I have to watch the puckhandler skate INTO a defender as if they can't even see them?

Swedes are looking sharp though.

Sweden on a PP with 2:45 to go!

Sweden powerplay :biglaugh:

Kim Martin is doing great so far.

Quite the goaltender. I've been really impressed.

Martin and Lundqvist. Not a bad combination for Tre Kroner. ;)

The Swedish goalie is unbelievable. She is singlehandedly keep her team in it. If I remember rite she played pretty damn good in Salt Lake City in 2002 when she was what 15? If Sweeden wins this game it will be because of her

5 on 3!

This is a good game.

Wow, nice save!

Going to OT.

Lets see a shootout!!

This is a great game so far!!! :handclap: :bow: :clap:

I think the U.S. is most likely looking forward to Canada and that is the reason why they are not 100 % there, mentally.

If they get by Sweden, expect a different team in the GMG.

Timglas had the game on her stick and missed.

Americans will win OT, but the Sweds deserve a ton of credit.

Are they bringing out the zamboni?

Wow, this could be a HUGE upset.

If they get by Sweden, expect a different team in the GMG.

How so?

Canada has looked unstoppable all tournament long, the Americans have looked everything but.

I think the U.S. is most likely looking forward to Canada and that is the reason why they are not 100 % there, mentally.

If they get by Sweden, expect a different team in the GMG.

I think the US will be better than today... but I honestly think the Canadians are playing at another level in this tourney.

First OT game in the Olympics since Canada/Czech in 98

Maybe the American women should not have held back all tournament. ;)

why isnt OT 4v4?? I think it makes for more interesting OT play when there is more ice, especially in international play with the bigger ice surface

The US goalie looks shaky as hell.

First OT game in the Olympics since Canada/Czech in 98

Really? That's interesting.

This means that medal games will be extremely boring, Sweden will be slaughtered by Canada. And Finland can do nothing against USA who plays wothout pressures.

why isnt OT 4v4?? I think it makes for more interesting OT play when there is more ice, especially in international play with the bigger ice surface

I don't think any OTs in elimination games are 4-4, not international and not in the NHL. Besides, these players are pretty tired right now.

This means that medal games will be extremely boring, Sweden will be slaughtered by Canada. And Finland can do nothing against USA who plays wothout pressures.

Maybe, but it is still a progress in womens hockey if that happens.

The US goalie looks shaky as hell.

Not on that last shot! Whoa!

OMG she did not just make that save. That was the game right there.

USA goalie saved US Gold Metal chances there

This is crazy. Too bad the ice looks bad.

"How you like me now? :D"

Great game ! :D

Sooooo close for sweden.

Maybe, but it is still a progress if that happens.

US team is so shaken by this situation that one can see their trembling... Unless they get lucky Sweden takes this.

Wow, this is a great game!

Timeout USA

If this goes to a shootout it wouldn't be too crazy if Sweden wins it. Kim Martin is unbelievable and besides that one save just before, the US goalie has been shaky as all hell

I assume that a shootout favours the Americans, as far as offensive talent goes.

US team is so shaken by this situation that one can see their trembling... Unless they get lucky Sweden takes this.

It's clear the US weren't ready for a game like this today.

How so?

Canada has looked unstoppable all tournament long, the Americans have looked everything but.

I don't know but you kind of get the sense that that is how the Americans are thinking. They know they are the class of the tournament along with Canada.

Either way, go Canada go :P.

It's clear the US weren't ready for a game like this today.
Exactly.

Get Rooth back out there!

No penalties in OT! C'mon for FFS! :banghead:

Daaaaamn... PP for the US.

I want to see a shootout....USA powerplay on that weak *** call in OT :shakehead

:shakehead US PP, wow I didn't see that coming.

Americans will win it here.

uh oh...PP for the US...2/10 on the PP today

Hey, I know the Americans are the classy team that doesn't want to run up the score, but this is getting ridiculous.

:shakehead US PP, wow I didn't see that coming.

Americans will win it here.

Guess that 2-person Sweden advantage was just a fluke, huh? If anything, they want the US to lose to show the world that everyone is catching up to the US and Canada.

To all of our Swedish members in this thread: does your country follow the women nearly as much as they do the men?

In other words how big of a win would this be?

the swedes are great at blocking shots....

Unbelievable!

Kim! :bow:

The point shots are so weak it's like watching pee-wee hockey :dunno:

:shakehead US PP, wow I didn't see that coming.Just like we didn't see your whining coming.

Again.

Hey, I know the Americans are the classy team that doesn't want to run up the score, but this is getting ridiculous.

:D

uh oh...PP for the US...2/10 on the PP today

Or you could look at it as they've scored their only two goals today on the PP. If they score it's got to be on a PP.

Once again this Swedish goalie is unbelievable..and the US will more then likely lose if it goes to shootout

14 secs til the shootout.

Time for Martin to prove she's no joke.

Shootout

Yes a shootout :)

Shootout! Good for Sweden to get this far.

Will the Sedins shoot 1 and 2?

Yes a shootout :)

It used to be exciting...

Go Sweden! :clap:

Penalties!

Apparently, the Swedes have been practicing penalties on Stefan Liv.

thanks for the updates guys, I am at work and can't watch the game. please keep them up during the shoot out.

BTW does anyone know of a good glog for the womens games? Eurosport is quite slow and not much detail.

Can't believe CBC isn't showing this, choosing ski-jumping instead.
This game is a classic...are there that many ski-jump fans in Canada?

Guess that 2-person Sweden advantage was just a fluke, huh? If anything, they want the US to lose to show the world that everyone is catching up to the US and Canada.

Did you watch the game at all? Did you miss the 5on3 for like 3 minutes the Americans had?

22 PIM for Sweden
12 for the US

Can't believe CBC isn't showing this, choosing ski-jumping instead.
This game is a classic...are there that many ski-jump fans in Canada?

I'm watching it on CBC.

Shootout! Damn, first time i am nervous watching a womens game.

To quote Han, i've got a bad feeling about this. :D

Can't believe CBC isn't showing this, choosing ski-jumping instead.
This game is a classic...are there that many ski-jump fans in Canada?

I'm watching CBC and they're showing the game :dunno:

Can't believe CBC isn't showing this, choosing ski-jumping instead.
This game is a classic...are there that many ski-jump fans in Canada?

Looks like they're staying with it

To all of our Swedish members in this thread: does your country follow the women nearly as much as they do the men?

In other words how big of a win would this be?

Not nearly as much as the men. The time when you hear about them is pretty much at big events, like the olympics.

Did you watch the game at all? Did you miss the 5on3 for like 3 minutes the Americans had?

22 PIM for Sweden
12 for the USYes and when one team is outplaying another team significantly in hockey, they never wind up with a legitimate edge in PP opportunities as a result. Right?

But continue with your whining.

go sweden!

Save Kim!

Can't believe CBC isn't showing this, choosing ski-jumping instead.
This game is a classic...are there that many ski-jump fans in Canada?

I'm watching CBC too. Try TSN maybe.

Hahaha, good move but no score by Sweden.

hahha she tried the "peter forsberg move" !!

You're not Jokinen don't evne try that :biglaugh:

Kim with the save.

this is ugly. someone score please.

Bad 2nd move. What was she thinking.

damnit swedes are too fancy! just skate forward and shoot!! :rant:

Angela hits the bar!

How ridiculous is it only to use one end of the ice?

What the eff was that?

What the **** is with the extra shot...can't even hit the empty net.


SWEDEN scores !!!!!!!!!!

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaalllll

This is one the worst shootouts I've ever seen.

Wow 1-0 Sweden, 4th shooter

Go Sweden!

YESSSS!!!!! Score!!!!

For some reason Ruggerio got to shoot again.. what was the ruling there? I can't hear the game.

Sweden Scores!

What the eff was that?

Apperently Kim moved to soon...

That was the most obvious move ever by Wendell there.

How ridiculous is it only to use one end of the ice?

It's because smart goaltenders, like myself, slice the absolute **** out of the slot, to mess with the puck of the opposing player. If you've got the zone all to yourself you can do that without hurting your own team.

Woho, congrats ladies!

Sweden WINS!.. haha.

Congrats!

Holy Crap!
Sweden Wins!!!

SEDEN WINS :clap: :clap: :clap:

Sweden Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL@USA team for choking.

Yes!!! Yes!!!!! Go Sweden!!!!

I'm just following the comments from you guys as I'm at the office...this is completely blowing my mind :eek:

Sweden wins!!! :D

That was sick

SVERRRIIIIIGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :cheers:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!! Sweden wins it!! **** yes!

Congrats Sweden. Well played.

Sweden! Congrats! Nice to see a final other than US-Canada!

What's with Swedish goaltenders and dominating shootouts?

:bow: :bow:

Go Sweden Go!!

Wow... Very impressive. As far as upsets go, this is massive.

:biglaugh:

Wow. Shocker.

Anyone want to bet on a Finnish upset to top this off?

:amazed: :amazed: :amazed:

Wow!

Yup I called it Sweden Wins. Kim Martin is nasty and if she plays like this against Canada it could be a very good game

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Congrats Sweden ! Very good game ladies ! :handclap:

Whoa...what if Finland pulls another upset and it's an all Scandanavian final??? Guess the critics of women's hockey will have to find something else to say now! haha

This was an effort of Rocky-esque proportions! Rocky 2 even! Survive the 15th rounds and win with a knockout :teach:

:handclap: :handclap: Sweden :handclap: :handclap:

The US shootout attempts were weak.

Kim Martin! You are awesome!

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?


BTW Congrats Sweden

LMAO, who was saying they should make the final a 7 game series between the US and Canada?

Go Sweden. :yo:

Anyone want to bet on a Finnish upset to top this off?
Leave it to a Yotes fan to start up some gambling.. :sarcasm:

But... It would actually be GOOD for the sport if Canada was to lose...

In other hockey news.

Edmonton sign Kim Martin to a 5 year 25million dollar contract.

Yup I called it Sweden Wins. Kim Martin is nasty and if she plays like this against Canada it could be a very good game


She played awesome. What an upset. Way to go Sweden.



Granato would have scored one though.

Men's Skeleton! Lets go boys!

I hope the USA coach rips this team apart in the locker room. Horrible, horrendous, loss. These women should be ashamed of themselves.

Canada is so much better than either of these teams. Finland will NOT beat them. I will guarantee it. :teach:

Leave it to a Yotes fan to start up some gambling.. :sarcasm:

But... It would actually be GOOD for the sport if Canada was to lose...

I wouldn't mind losing to Sweden after the effort they put forth today. Although it's highly unlikely would still be nice to see.

Anyone want to bet on a Finnish upset to top this off?

Ya I think they can beat the US in the bronze medal game. :sarcasm:

LOL@USA team for choking.


Why would someone from the USA (you list Detroit) say something like this? No class.

:handclap: :handclap: Sweden :handclap: :handclap:

The US shootout attempts were weak.
I don't think weak paints the picture well enough...

They were down right pitiful for the most part...

What's with Swedish goaltenders and dominating shootouts?

:bow: :bow:

what's with swedish goaltenders and losing to belarus

I cannot believe it! Like, I'm speechless.

Congrats to Sweden. Incredible.

congrats swedes....Rooth 2 reg. goals and winner in SO, Martin stands on her head to send the swedes to the GMG, good luck


time to come out firing in the BMG for the US ladies, doest the team "show up" for that game or have they all mentally checked out after losing the Semi???

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?
Are you new here or something?

I'm shocked right now.

DAMMIT. Martin is one hell of a goalie.

Unbelivable! lol US eh US eh US pffffffffft! :handclap: Martin was great!

sverige!
:clap:

Yes!!!!!!!! Kim Martin! :bow: :bow: :bow:

I guess the shootout practicing against Liv payed off! :D :yo:

Leave it to a Yotes fan to start up some gambling.. :sarcasm:

But... It would actually be GOOD for the sport if Canada was to lose...
I am one of the not yet pictured dudes on the Operation Slapshot board.

But I will not comment any further on any allegations while the investigation is ongoing.

By thw way, Canada is not going to lose.

No competition eh?

Way to go Sweden!

It's Miracle on ice 2!

BANANA TIME!

:banana: :banana: :banana:

LMAO, who was saying they should make the final a 7 game series between the US and Canada?

I did, but based on the fact every world championship and Olympic final has been Canada/US.

It is still unbalanced. This will help, no doubt.

What an upset. Hopefully, Canada can do better against the Finns.

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?


BTW Congrats Sweden

Because 10 straight Canada US finals (or however many it's been) is boring.

In other hockey news.

Edmonton sign Kim Martin to a 5 year 25million dollar contract.

I wish. :biglaugh:

Oh my god I can't belive it! What a game, I must have a heart rate over 200! I can't imagine that anywone in my building didn't hear me when Winberg scored.

Excellent win for the Swedes! Great result for Women's hockey in general.
Great effort USA, came up against an amazing goalie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR35
Why is every non-American going for Sweden?


BTW Congrats Sweden


Are you new here or something?


:biglaugh:

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?


BTW Congrats Sweden
2 reasons. Cause everyone likes the underdog & for canadians, it makes for a way easier row to hoe. In fact, it virtually gaurantees Canada the gold.

Wow. Go Sweden! This is the same Swedish women's team that was here last month at the hotel I work part time at. They were praticing in Calgary and I didn't expect them to beat either the Americans or the Canadians. I got to say one thing though... they ain't hot babes when you see them in casual clothing. :propeller

I'm disapointed to see my fellow country men (women) lose, and I was pissed when I saw how pathetic those shootuout attempts were for Team USA. But on the bright side, this is so great for women's hockey. I would love to see Sweden upset Canada in the final.

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?


BTW Congrats Sweden

Because Women's hockey has been percieved to be between 2 countries, Canada and the US. Sweden beating the US is terrific for Women's hockey.

Its also why every non Czech fan was cheering for Switzerland in the Mens tourney as well. Its fun to cheer for the underdog.

Hey, I know the Americans are the classy team that doesn't want to run up the score, but this is getting ridiculous.

:biglaugh:

Wow, congrats to Sweden.

Congrats to SWE ladies :handclap: :clap:

Does this mean SWE has their quota full of
this year's hockey medals in the olympics? :)

This was a great miracle on ice. Let's hope
the lightning does strike twice in the same
spot tonight.

Wow. An absolutely horrific result for the USA, but hopefully a positive step for women's hockey overall.

Wow. hopefully a positive step for women's hockey overall.

It can only help.

Too bad for the US, but at least women's hockey is spared the embarassment of a gold or silver medal team that lost to a US boys high school team.

I think Pierre McGuire is hitting on the Swedish goalie.

Because 10 straight Canada US finals (or however many it's been) is boring.

There is a lot more to it than that. ;)

Well a Silver medal is up! No way we will make this upset again. Awesome game girls!
Damn i am proud tonight.. Especially for my friend Maria (and Kim!)

Edit: Weeeeep. Me stupid.

I'm disapointed to see my fellow country men (women) lose, and I was pissed when I saw how pathetic those shootuout attempts were for Team USA. But on the bright side, this is so great for women's hockey. I would love to see Sweden upset Canada in the final.

As a Canadian I can't hope for team Canada to lose to Finland but I hope it's kept real close to the end. Same as the Gold medal game.

Because Women's hockey has been percieved to be between 2 countries,

Maybe, but the American women's team are a bunch of classless, arrogant, whiny cows. I am glad they lost.

I am sure that guy would feel the same about Canada if they put the American flag on there floor and walked all over it.

Too bad for the US, but at least women's hockey is spared the embarassment of a gold or silver medal team that lost to a US boys high school team.

Grow up.

At Least The Us Women Will End Up With A Medal, More We Can Say For The Us Men!

:handclap: :clap: :bow:

It was an amazing performance by Kim Martin. Judging by the shots on goal count the game might be an anomoly but given that Martin is only 19 years old women's hockey will be a lot more interesting in the future.

Too bad for the US, but at least women's hockey is spared the embarassment of a gold or silver medal team that lost to a US boys high school team.

Dopey comment

I'm disapointed to see my fellow country men (women) lose, and I was pissed when I saw how pathetic those shootuout attempts were for Team USA. But on the bright side, this is so great for women's hockey. I would love to see Sweden upset Canada in the final.

Given that Canada already beat them 8-1, I don't think it's likely. That wasn't the first game the US struggled through.

At Least The Us Women Will End Up With A Medal, More We Can Say For The Us Men!No, I think Canada will beat them in the bronze medal game.

It is a great day for hockey! :handclap:

They knocked out the Defending World Women's Champion, no less!

Nice to see Sweden pull off an upset, instead of get upset, for a change.

This result is probably good for the game as a whole. Hopefully it's a signal that the Scandanavian nations are catching up, and we start to consistently see four teams that can contend for a world title. It's not going to help the Americans any right now.

Finland's a tough team. Canada knows better than to take them lightly. If Canada does underestimate them, Canada will lose. Finland led Canada 3-2 after two periods in the 2002 Olympic semi-final. When Canada won those world titles in the 1990s, they usually faced Finland in the semis, and those were generally decided by one or two goals. And if Canada does beat Finland (by no means a guarantee), they have to face an upstart Swedish team whose goalie just had the game of her life.

Didn't see the game, and I'm not as familiar with U.S. women's hockey as Canadian women's hockey. Did the U.S. take Sweden lightly? Or is this a reflection of a gap in the U.S. development pipeline, similar to what happened with the men's program for much of the 1990s?

Maybe, but the American women's team are a bunch of classless, arrogant, whiny cows. I am glad they lost.See, if you had just posted this in the first place, and spared us the 58 different posts whining about US PP's, we could have gotten to your true feelings much sooner.

There is a lot more to it than that. ;)

Well the guy asked why is every non-American going for Sweden?

As a non-American, I cheer for the American men (when not playing Canada), so actually I don't think it is more than that.

Oh boo hoo. Sweden won, karma caught up the US, so deal with it

Jenny Porter looks like a man

http://www.torino2006.org/resources/ATH/img_607491.jpg

See, if you had just posted this in the first place, and spared us the 58 different posts whining about US PP's, we could have gotten to your true feelings much sooner.

His comments are not the opinion of most Canadian fans.

Sweden has around 450 licensed female hockey players, Canada has about 225.000 - if my numbers are right. That's 500 Canadian players for every Swedish one. Heh.

Well the guy asked why is every non-American going for Sweden?

As a non-American, I cheer for the American men (when not playing Canada), so actually I don't think it is more than that.
Actually, I wouldn't be disappointed to see a Finland-Sweden gold medal game. There has to be a gap closing in competition for this to be taken seriously.

This was step one.

His comments are not the opinion of most Canadian fans.Oh, don't worry, we know they're not. I've been to Canada. There is obviously way, way more class north of the border than is being displayed by him.

Hmm. I think its not heterosexual that the girls tournament doesn't have a quarterfinal.

WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! FREAKING SILVERMEDAL!

I have never been this excited about women's hockey, great game girls! I never thought they would tie the game when the US had a 2-0 lead. Amazing! Too bad about the final though, will probably be another landslide-win.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Well the guy asked why is every non-American going for Sweden?

As a non-American, I cheer for the American men (when not playing Canada), so actually I don't think it is more than that.

Oh, I think it's a lot more than that. I would say about 1/3 is anti-American sentiment based on jealousy of America's power, 1/3 is anti-Americanism due to American arrogance in sport and "politics", and 1/3 is the flag-stomping, and whining about the Candians scores.

The rest of the World loves to see the USA fail at anything. I know - I'm part of it!

Sweden has around 450 licensed female hockey players, Canada has about 225.000 - if my numbers are right. That's 500 Canadian players for every Swedish one. Heh.


I heard it was more like 60000 for Canada.

Looks like America-Lite will take the Gold Medal this year with ease.

Kidding.

But the American Women could probably beat the Mens Kazakhstan team by more than the Mens US did.

Didn't see the game, and I'm not as familiar with U.S. women's hockey as Canadian women's hockey. Did the U.S. take Sweden lightly? Or is this a reflection of a gap in the U.S. development pipeline, similar to what happened with the men's program for much of the 1990s?

They (US) played good, this win was all about the goalies. Kim Martin was on fire and did it all. Maria R on attack was awesome. But mostly Kim in goal, she was amazing.

Sorry, but these two teams are on a completely different level from Canada. Much as it would be good for the sport, Canada won't be in any close games this week.

Actually, I wouldn't be disappointed to see a Finland-Sweden gold medal game. There has to be a gap closing in competition for this to be taken seriously.

This was step one.

9 out of 10 times America wins that game... so it's not like there is true parity... but i think 4 years ago, America wins that game 10 out of 10 times.

Steps in the right direction - even if Canada wins.

Wohoo!! Great game by Sweden!

Nice to see Sweden pull off an upset, instead of get upset, for a change.

This result is probably good for the game as a whole. Hopefully it's a signal that the Scandanavian nations are catching up, and we start to consistently see four teams that can contend for a world title. It's not going to help the Americans any right now.

Finland's a tough team. Canada knows better than to take them lightly. If Canada does underestimate them, Canada will lose. Finland led Canada 3-2 after two periods in the 2002 Olympic semi-final. When Canada won those world titles in the 1990s, they usually faced Finland in the semis, and those were generally decided by one or two goals. And if Canada does beat Finland (by no means a guarantee), they have to face an upstart Swedish team whose goalie just had the game of her life.

Didn't see the game, and I'm not as familiar with U.S. women's hockey as Canadian women's hockey. Did the U.S. take Sweden lightly? Or is this a reflection of a gap in the U.S. development pipeline, similar to what happened with the men's program for much of the 1990s?

I only watched a portion of the game and the shoutout so I don't know for sure but I don't think the USA took them lightly as they played hard in the 1st period. The Sweden goalie was fantastic and stole the game. Now what I don't know is how the USA played in the 2nd period when the Swedes scored twice. Mayber the STates got the lead and let it slip away I don't know. Maybe someone else could comment. Overall though the Kim Martin stole the game.

Given that Canada already beat them 8-1, I don't think it's likely. That wasn't the first game the US struggled through.

I would expect a closer game this time. The swedish ladies admitted that they didn't really fought as they should have in the first game.

His comments are not the opinion of most Canadian fans.

Uh oh :cry:

holy crap!! i went to cbc.ca and saw the headline that sweden beat the US and was SHOCKED.... now, admittedly i dont follow womens hockey *that* closely, so this might not be as big of an upset as i think it is but its still a large upset nonetheless..... cbc is calling it "sweden's miracle on ice", is this accurate? is it really as big of an upset as US-russia was?

if anything this just shows how ridiculous 1 game eliminations really are..... is ther *anybody* in the entire world who really thinks sweden would have beat the US in a 7 game series? yeah i didnt think so.... these tournaments are all fine and dandy, but they dont really prove who the better team is, they only prove who the better team on that particular day.... for me to take these results seriously, a 3 game series would have to take place at the minimum

2 reasons. Cause everyone likes the underdog & for canadians, it makes for a way easier row to hoe. In fact, it virtually gaurantees Canada the gold.

It does not guarantee Canada anything. They need to beat Finland first. If they beat Finland then they will face a hot goalie and a team with tons of confidence. I still think Canada will win gold but it is not a guarantee. Ask the USA.

Didn't see the game, and I'm not as familiar with U.S. women's hockey as Canadian women's hockey. Did the U.S. take Sweden lightly? Or is this a reflection of a gap in the U.S. development pipeline, similar to what happened with the men's program for much of the 1990s?

I don't claim to know alot about the U.S. women's hockey program but I thought this game was just a classic case of a hot goaltender winning a game all by herself. The Americans almost had twice as many shots on goal as Sweden did and was leading 2-1 at one point. As another poster mentioned there's not enough female players in Sweden to say that the Swedish program has caught up.

It does not guarantee Canada anything. They need to beat Finland first. If they beat Finland then they will face a hot goalie and a team with tons of confidence. I still think Canada will win gold but it is not a guarantee. Ask the USA.

You must admit that our chances just improved a great deal.

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Kim Martin is one of the best females goalies in the world.

I have never been this excited about women's hockey, great game girls! I never thought they would tie the game when the US had a 2-0 lead. Amazing! Too bad about the final though, will probably be another landslide-win.

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+1

Neither have i. This was awesome, i had goosebumps at the end!

Congrats to the gold Canada, but a bigger congrats to our Swedish girls getting a Silver medal!

(jinx :sarcasm: )

I would expect a closer game this time. The swedish ladies admitted that they didn't really fought as they should have in the first game.

I'm pretty sure Kim didn't play in net against the Canadians in the last game.
And I think Canada only beat them 4-0 in warm up to the Olympics in Calgary.

good job sweden. Always like upsets. NO way in the world I bet Sweden to beat USA. It was joyful to see those Swedish women celebrate.

Sorry, but these two teams are on a completely different level from Canada. Much as it would be good for the sport, Canada won't be in any close games this week.

I don't really follow women's hockey. But if team canada is so good, how come the USA won 2005 world championships? Or is team canada really not that good and the posters on these boards are jsut too nationalistic :dunno:

Doesnt really make sense to me

Sweden has around 450 licensed female hockey players, Canada has about 225.000 - if my numbers are right. That's 500 Canadian players for every Swedish one. Heh.
I heard about 65,000 for Canada, 50,000 for the US and 125,000 total worldwide including those numbers.

Why is every non-American going for Sweden?



Nothing personal. Everybody loves an underdog, especially a huge underdog. It was a heck of a game. The Americans just couldn't beat a smokin' hot goaltender, and they seemed to wear down a bit at the end.

how come the USA won 2005 world championships?

A shootout.

It's pretty funny. The very people who call today's win a fluke because it was in a shootout, are the same ones who wet themselves about the 05 win and couldn't possibly admit it was a fluke as well.

I don't really follow women's hockey. But if team canada is so good, how come the USA won 2005 world championships? Or is team canada really not that good and the posters on these boards are jsut too nationalistic :dunno:

Doesnt really make sense to me

Cause team Canada and USA are equal in power for womens. So its usually Team Canada or USA getting number 1 in competition.

wow this isn't happening :amazed: :amazed: :amazed: :amazed:

I don't really follow women's hockey. But if team canada is so good, how come the USA won 2005 world championships? Or is team canada really not that good and the posters on these boards are jsut too nationalistic :dunno:

Doesnt really make sense to me
never heard of upsets? Canada has won gold in all but 1 world championship (7 golds i think) and that was the 2005 championship where they won silver... and has a gold and a silver in the 2 olympics... so that leaves the US with about 7 silvers in world championships and 1 gold... as well as 1 of each in the olympics... so yeah i think it's pretty safe to say Canada is the best women's hockey nation

You must admit that our chances just improved a great deal.

Of course the chances are even better now. But that attitude of the previous poster who said it is now a guarantee is what gets you in trouble in the medal round.
"Fear no one but respect everyone one"-no matter how good you are.

I heard about 65,000 for Canada, 50,000 for the US and 125,000 total worldwide including those numbers.

its more than that in canada....without a doubt, the leagues are growing

theres nothing flukey about losing in a shootout - im watchin tv right now theyre talking about how the americans have been doing photo shoots and maybe not taking these teams seriously as the canadians have - the usa had ample opportuniy to bury the swedes during the whole 60 minutes and had ample opportunity to outshine them in the shootout and lost ....

i bet they wish theyd practiced instead of done *photoshoots*

Congrats to Sweden!!! :clap: :clap: Hopefully we will be seeing a Canada vs Sweden final ;)

Angela Ruggiero's statement a few days ago has come back to haunt her:

"I would love to see Finland or Sweden make a final," Ruggiero said. "Not when I'm playing, but eventually. We need that."

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The Swedish girls practiced shootouts against Stefan Liv (who was in goal against Kazakstan), the American girls practiced photoshoots.

this is the best thing to happen for womens hockey

i bet they wish theyd practiced instead of done *photoshoots*

But they look haawt. :snide:


;)

I heard it was more like 60000 for Canada.

Yea its 60,000 for Canada and 55,000 for USA

Yeah, they lose looking gooood!

Yea its 60,000 for Canada and 55,000 for USA
Thanks, that's alot less than the numbers I got from who knows where. Still 450 vs 60.000 is quite a big difference, the same for 450 vs. 55.000.

Quality in front of quantity. We only needed a goalie.

A shootout.

It's pretty funny. The very people who call today's win a fluke because it was in a shootout, are the same ones who wet themselves about the 05 win and couldn't possibly admit it was a fluke as well.
U.S. outplayed Canada in last year's World Championship final. Best thing that has happened to Canada since the 2002 Olympics was losing the gold medal game to the U.S. last year, and being outplayed in the process. They've come back with renewed vigour and hunger this year.

U.S. could have easily beaten Canada several times at the Worlds. Canada had big comebacks in a couple gold medal games, and got better goaltending in a couple others. Even though the U.S. had years where they were the better team, and would beat Canada in the round-robin/pre-tournament games, Canada was generally best when it counted: the gold medal game. (Exception being the 1998 Olympics).

For whatever reason, Canada has looked stronger throughout this year's Olympics. Maybe the U.S. took the foot off the throttle in their first two games, but they were down 3-2 to Finland a couple days ago. They just haven't looked as sharp this week.

Congrats Sweden! :handclap: