GM Näslund: "The hockey world is run by Canada"

Gretzky and Bertuzzi obviously isn't enough. On Wendsday Canada put pressure on the IIHF and got all Swedish practises in the main arena.

Before the tournament the rules where that all teams would get a equal share of practises on game day in the game arena. Though late wednsday Canada refused to travel by buss to the reserve arena, which have no dressingrooms so players are forced to dress at on place, travel by buss a few miles with all equipment on, before they practise. So what happends? Yes all Swedish practises are moved to the reserve arena with no dressingrooms. Canada got all their practises in the main arena and also as the only team got their own dressing room which they'll keep for the rest of the tournament.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779526,00.html

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779517,00.html

Its probably only good fuel for team Sweden. But I still think its beyond embarassing now for Canada. :biglaugh:

Nothing wrong with a little gamesmanship.

Who cares, Sweden whould never beat Canada anyway :biglaugh:

Canada refused to travel by buss to the reserve arena, which have no dressingrooms so players are forced to dress at on place, travel by buss a few miles with all equipment on, before they practise. So what happends? Yes all Swedish practises are moved to the reserve arena with no dressingrooms. Canada got all their practises in the main arena and also as the only team got their own dressing room which they'll keep for the rest of the tournament.


I am not surprised. :shakehead

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Team Cananda is coming off like a bunch of whiners. :shakehead

Gretzky and Bertuzzi obviously isn't enough. On Wendsday Canada put pressure on the IIHF and got all Swedish practises in the main arena.

Before the tournament the rules where that all teams would get a equal share of practises on game day in the game arena. Though late wednsday Canada refused to travel by buss to the reserve arena, which have no dressingrooms so players are forced to dress at on place, travel by buss a few miles with all equipment on, before they practise. So what happends? Yes all Swedish practises are moved to the reserve arena with no dressingrooms. Canada got all their practises in the main arena and also as the only team got their own dressing room which they'll keep for the rest of the tournament.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779526,00.html

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779517,00.html

Its probably only good fuel for team Sweden. But I still think its beyond embarassing now for Canada. :biglaugh:

How is it embarassing? They got everything they wanted...

Nice to see that Canada is getting some consideration after being screwed by the IIHF for years. Remember when the NHL players were considered to be proffesionals and the Soviets were considered amateurs when their only job was to play hockey?

How is it embarassing? They got everything they wanted...

It makes them look like the US basketball team.

Gretzky and Bertuzzi obviously isn't enough. On Wendsday Canada put pressure on the IIHF and got all Swedish practises in the main arena.

Before the tournament the rules where that all teams would get a equal share of practises on game day in the game arena. Though late wednsday Canada refused to travel by buss to the reserve arena, which have no dressingrooms so players are forced to dress at on place, travel by buss a few miles with all equipment on, before they practise. So what happends? Yes all Swedish practises are moved to the reserve arena with no dressingrooms. Canada got all their practises in the main arena and also as the only team got their own dressing room which they'll keep for the rest of the tournament.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779526,00.html

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,779517,00.html

Its probably only good fuel for team Sweden. But I still think its beyond embarassing now for Canada. :biglaugh:

:cry: :cry:

Team Canada is the underdog at these Olympics and should be given some consideration :D

It makes them look like the US basketball team.

It makes them look very tall :dunno: :biglaugh:

We're used to that I guess ...

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Team Cananda is coming off like a bunch of whiners. :shakehead

Maybe your english is not so good...it's CANADA not Cananda and winners not whiners :)

This stuff happens every year, it's not the first time Canadians use tactics like this. And it won't be the last.

It happens on and off the ice, on ice Canadians are the biggest whiners and act like babies when the calls don't go their way. Rick Nash should have been thrown out of the game last WC but got away because the ref didn't have the balls to call it, simply because of Nash's nationality.

Funny thing is that the over the years Canadian media accuses Europeans for being dirty (stickwork etc) when usually the dirtiest stickwork is usually done by Canadians themselves (this never gets mentioned over there). Point in case: Canada in WC'97, Owen Nolan, Cory Cross and Keith Primeau pulled 3 of the dirtiest moves in recent WC history. No mention in Canadian papers.

If this is acurate then as a Canadian I am embarrased by it. If professional players aren't willing to go through the same inconveniences that 99% of the other amateur Olympic athletes go through then perhaps they should reconsider participating all together.

Otherwise suck it up and roll with these types of situations.

That said, Sweden has a history of complaining about Canada in one aspect or another in every international hockey tournament. Wether it's the supposed prefered reffing, the prefered treatment of the players, too rough or any other angle they can use to generate a few headlines (maybe this is why Sundin fits in so well in Toronto, apparently the Leafs have to endure the same injustices ;) ).

At any rate, I would like to see another perspective or hear soem actual rationale for the reported change in venue before judging too harshly. I hope that hockey Canada and their players are a little more sportsman like than the initial report indicated.

That's stupid. They should all be sent home.

Anyway, Go Canada.

Sweden are just upset that Canada has beaten them in every major tournament (in a game that counts) since 94.

I'll start taking Euro complaints seriously the day the IIHF stops holding the "world championships" during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Sweden is trying to get their big gun Alfie going. He has been miserable playing with Mats. How long can Mats carry a guy like Alfie. It deflects attention from the real problems. Naslund understands this having played in Montreal were the real big time whiners reside. It is probably were he learned this tactic.

Nice to see that Canada is getting some consideration after being screwed by the IIHF for years. Remember when the NHL players were considered to be proffesionals and the Soviets were considered amateurs when their only job was to play hockey?

I know it's impossible to believe but for once this was not the fault of the IIHF. ;)
You have to thank idiots like Avery Brundage and his old boys club in the IOC for that.

Damn it! I miss Kent Forsberg, he was pretty good at whining at everything. He never smiled either.

This stuff happens every year, it's not the first time Canadians use tactics like this. And it won't be the last.

It happens on and off the ice, on ice Canadians are the biggest whiners and act like babies when the calls don't go their way. Rick Nash should have been thrown out of the game last WC but got away because the ref didn't have the balls to call it, simply because of Nash's nationality.

Funny thing is that the over the years Canadian media accuses Europeans for being dirty (stickwork etc) when usually the dirtiest stickwork is usually done by Canadians themselves (this never gets mentioned over there). Point in case: Canada in WC'97, Owen Nolan, Cory Cross and Keith Primeau pulled 3 of the dirtiest moves in recent WC history. No mention in Canadian papers.

Add Lasak getting tripped behind the net 2 years ago to that list.

It's our game, everyone else should just be honored to be allowed to play it. :sarcasm:

A thread whining about someone whining. I hope I'm not the only one who enjoys the irony. Oh well, I hope we can at least be considered benevolent dictators.

I'll start taking Euro complaints seriously the day the IIHF stops holding the "world championships" during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

But thats the same for all teams.

Sweden is trying to get their big gun Alfie going. He has been miserable playing with Mats. How long can Mats carry a guy like Alfie. It deflects attention from the real problems. Naslund understands this having played in Montreal were the real big time whiners reside. It is probably were he learned this tactic. C'mon, admit that posting that made you blush.

C'mon, admit that posting that made you blush.

A lot of fish in that barrel that I couldn't resist shooting. :)

Add Lasak getting tripped behind the net 2 years ago to that list.
Who????

A thread whining about someone whining. I hope I'm not the only one who enjoys the irony. Oh well, I hope we can at least be considered benevolent dictators.

One can only hope. I think it would be far better for everyone if Canada ran the world, not just the hockey world, what a Utopia the world would be ;)

No news here. Canada whined non-stop during the WJC. They even managed to put enough pressure on IIHF so IIHF replaced a swedish referee for an american one just before the final Russia-USA, so no wonder divingg Canadian squad had only 14 mnutes of penalties when highly skilled Russian got 20 minutes. There are no bigger whiners than Canadians when it comes down to hockey, these guys whined and whined in Salt Lake and it gave them the result so they decided to keep whining.

Who????

Jan Lasak got tripped behind the net when he was stopping a dump in. canadian player (niedermayer I reckon), but not sure, put his stick between Lasak's shin and pad from behind when he was skating by and turned Lasak on his back. Canada then scored when Lasak was lying behind the net. Semi finals in Prague.

The trip itself wasn't so foul, it was the fact that ref Looker didn't blow the whistle.

Canada went on to finals, Slovaks lost in the bronze game vs USA.

One can only hope. I think it would be far better for everyone if Canada ran the world, not just the hockey world, what a Utopia the world would be ;)Don't worry, I'll be making my move soon. The world's a sucker for fresh maple syrup.

No news here. Canada whined non-stop during the WJC. They even managed to put enough pressure on IIHF so IIHF replaced a swedish referee for an american one just before the final Russia-USA, so no wonder divingg Canadian squad had only 14 mnutes of penalties when highly skilled Russian got 20 minutes. There are no bigger whiners than Canadians when it comes down to hockey, these guys whined and whined in Salt Lake and it gave them the result so they decided to keep whining.
:biglaugh:

No news here. Canada whined non-stop during the WJC. They even managed to put enough pressure on IIHF so IIHF replaced a swedish referee for an american one just before the final Russia-USA, so no wonder divingg Canadian squad had only 14 mnutes of penalties when highly skilled Russian got 20 minutes. There are no bigger whiners than Canadians when it comes down to hockey, these guys whined and whined in Salt Lake and it gave them the result so they decided to keep whining.

And there are no greater whiners than the Russians...in everything ;)

I have no doubt, it was some PR guy for the Team or something that did this, not the players. I have no doubt the players could have cared less.

Don't worry, I'll be making my move soon. The world's a sucker for fresh maple syrup.

Bring Tims coffee as well and I'll call you the Fuhrer anyday :D

Well if whining has been the reason that Canada currently holds EVERY major world championship.....fine. I thought it was because they were good...no? Whining? Cool. Gotcha.

[QUOTE=Siberian]No news here. Canada whined non-stop during the WJC. QUOTE]
So that was the buzz in my ears all tournament. C'mon, I taught my daughter when they'd get beat in soccer, which was quite often, if you tried your best, you lose, shake hands, go home [after stopping at Dairy Queen] and try and win next time. She learned,why can't you. The Russians lost a game, were they a better team, I don't know, it was one game. Why save this up and cry now ? Do you ever just lose without someone to blame ?

So Italy could win the gold if they started whining more?

So Italy could win the gold if they started whining more?

There's a joke in there if you combine Italy and w[h]ine but I'm not bright enough to make it.

Well if whining has been the reason that Canada currently holds EVERY major world championship.....They don't.

So what happends? Yes all Swedish practises are moved to the reserve arena with no dressingrooms. Canada got all their practises in the main arena and also as the only team got their own dressing room which they'll keep for the rest of the tournament.



Haha.. awesome.

No news here. Canada whined non-stop during the WJC. They even managed to put enough .... blah blah blah.

I seriously think you may need counselling. You're hanging on to this stuff and it's eating you up inside. You need to move on with your life and stop letting these things rule you :biglaugh:

I'll start taking Euro complaints seriously the day the IIHF stops holding the "world championships" during the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Yeah, I bet the NHL players would be very excited to play World Championships in mid june.

Well if whining has been the reason that Canada currently holds EVERY major world championship.....fine. I thought it was because they were good...no? Whining? Cool. Gotcha.

That someone like yourself thinks that way is not a suprise, but when the leader of your hockeyfederation thinks that way its just emabrassing for the sport and Canada. Especially in the Olympics.

I don't think that these Swedish professionals have a problem with this, it is overblown by the media. They have to sit with the gear on in the bus? Nooo! We are going to lose!11!

Canada's dominance is resented. No news there. We are the Brazil of the hockey world.

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Team Cananda is coming off like a bunch of whiners. :shakehead

Well, I can't blame Canada to have tried that; it's true that their situation was annoying. But I do blame the Olympic Hockey organization to give them all they wanted. Why not just simply cut it in half?

Canada's dominance is resented. No news there. We are the Brazil of the hockey world.

**** Brazil! Deutschland Über Alles! :)

Come on, that's hard to hear from a fellow German-Canadian!!

Funny thing is that the over the years Canadian media accuses Europeans for being dirty (stickwork etc) when usually the dirtiest stickwork is usually done by Canadians themselves (this never gets mentioned over there). Point in case: Canada in WC'97, Owen Nolan, Cory Cross and Keith Primeau pulled 3 of the dirtiest moves in recent WC history. No mention in Canadian papers.
LOL, you had to go back NINE YEARS for an example?
Should I therefore use Ulf Sterner as an example of classy European player?

If the rules and conditions are the same for all teams, Canada shouldn't get any special treatment. I don't blame Canada though, I blame the IIHF, the Olympic Commitee or whoever is in charge. If Canada is whining for special treatment just say NO.

Canada's dominance is resented. No news there. We are the Brazil of the hockey world.
Then why do they only have 1 Gold in the last 50 years?

Nice to see that Canada is getting some consideration after being screwed by the IIHF for years. Remember when the NHL players were considered to be proffesionals and the Soviets were considered amateurs when their only job was to play hockey?
That happened to every other Country in every sport.

Why do you think only Canada got screwed?

Then why do they only have 1 Gold in the last 50 years?

Canada took a break so other's might have a chance, all part of that good Canadian sportsmanship eh :D

"The Great Whine" strikes again!

When you're the best, then these things happen. People will always cater to the top teams.

Then why do they only have 1 Gold in the last 50 years?

Think about that long and hard... im sure it will come to you :propeller

I would imagine its only a matter of time before Crosby gets blamed for this. Devil child he is.

That happened to every other Country in every sport.

Why do you think only Canada got screwed?

If the title of this thread were "The hockey world is run by the US" perhaps the poster would have covered that. But, as it is, the thread is directed towards Canada. Thank you :)

Think about that long and hard... im sure it will come to you :propeller
Because they weren't good enough to win?

Well if whining has been the reason that Canada currently holds EVERY major world championship.

They don't.
Actually they do.

Actually they do.They hold two out of three. Last season's WCh was as 'major' as the WCup.

Because they weren't good enough to win?
Listen to the man and think.

Listen to the man and think.
I did, they weren't good enough to win. It's as simple as that.

nothing good coming out of this thread and definitely no constructive discussion. Closed.

I did, they weren't good enough to win. It's as simple as that.

Now I realize you're trying to get a rise out of Canadians, but I doubt it'll work. Canadians are far harder on ourselves than anyone else could be :D