Ryznar AND JANSSEN (!!!!) Sent down???

http://www.newjerseydevils.com/2005/html/theteam/roster.php

Devils website has a 21 man roster as of today. No Jannsen or Ryznar on there.

Ryznar played a good couple of games but I can understand him being sent down.

But Jannsen??? The kid has been a spark plug for us. Skates hard and is fiesty. Does the little things well and can fight.

Something interesting is going on!!!!

Possibilities..Lou clearing roster space for a pending deal. Or maybe he wants to give Jannsen a refreshener in Albany during the 4 day break.

I really like Jannsen in the lineup. Hopefully this is a glitch on the website or just a temporary demotion to work on some things.

That is interesting, can only mean two things, Lou is going to bring up some kids from Albany that can help us more offensively than Janssen and Ryznar - perhaps Suglobov and Tallackson, or Lou is making space for a trade.

Or another thought, Lou just sent them down to get some playing time during our four days off, more so Janssen than Ryznar.

Lou probably isn't planning on more than 1 short practice during the four days off, considering how tired the team is now.


Also, considering how short on manpower Albany is, Lou probably figured that they would need some help.

I think gm's are shuffling a bit more with sending guys down; because i thought i heard there are ways to pay these guys AHL salaryies for a couple days??? still alittle weird;

I think Janssen is important to the team hope he is called back up. I would trade him though for a decent player i guess he would be part of a package

Or another thought, Lou just sent them down to get some playing time during our four days off, more so Janssen than Ryznar.

That would be my guess...I'm sure a player or two will be called up for the Wednesday game against Ottawa, but just who gets called up is anyones guess.

It is interesting how many forwards are on the Rats roster at the moment....Suglobov, Tallackson, Ryznar, Vrana, Khomutov, Pihlman, Bergfors, Pikkarainen, Nittel, Voros, Clarkson, Murphy, Minard, Janssen, Murphy....If and when we make a deal, I wouldn't be surprised to see a prospect forward included in any deal that could be made.....

That would be my guess...I'm sure a player or two will be called up for the Wednesday game against Ottawa, but just who gets called up is anyones guess.

It is interesting how many forwards are on the Rats roster at the moment....Suglobov, Tallackson, Ryznar, Vrana, Khomutov, Pihlman, Bergfors, Pikkarainen, Nittel, Voros, Clarkson, Murphy, Minard, Janssen, Murphy....If and when we make a deal, I wouldn't be surprised to see a prospect forward included in any deal that could be made.....


No doubt teams are not going to trade vets; the only devils vet i can see being traded that has some value would be brylin and i don't see lou ever trading him

Janssen and Ryznar were playing 3 minutes a game or so, give the spot to someone else who can bury the biscuit, and get Grant off the 2nd line.

That would be my guess...I'm sure a player or two will be called up for the Wednesday game against Ottawa, but just who gets called up is anyones guess.

It is interesting how many forwards are on the Rats roster at the moment....Suglobov, Tallackson, Ryznar, Vrana, Khomutov, Pihlman, Bergfors, Pikkarainen, Nittel, Voros, Clarkson, Murphy, Minard, Janssen, Murphy....If and when we make a deal, I wouldn't be surprised to see a prospect forward included in any deal that could be made.....

That would be my guess as the first prospect traded, just mostly a hunch.

Janssen and Ryznar were playing 3 minutes a game or so, give the spot to someone else who can bury the biscuit, and get Grant off the 2nd line.

Janssen brought more to the team than scoring touch. I think, if he does in fact stay down in Albany, that his presence will be missed on the Devils roster.

As for Marshall, I like him as a player, but I also think we need a scorer on the 2nd line, to actually make it a scoring line. When are we going to see Parise-Brylin-Suglobov, or now that Kozlov is shooting he can center Parise and Suggy.

yep, they were both sent down. hopefully cam will play against hartford tomorrow.

I saw on the Rats schedule that they have games tonight and tomorrow, I think the moves are just to get help for the Rats and get these kids more playing time.

yep, they were both sent down. could be a good game in hartford tomorrow.
Did they already play today? If not maybe tonight as well.

Did they already play today? If not maybe tonight as well.

they already played. janssen and ryznar were not in the lineup.

devellano was at the lightening game and in between the intermissions he said that he was there to watch devil players in case a future trade or free agent situation came up with lou. so i think there might be a trade with the red wings real soon.

Sending them down will save money, and it might give them a chance to get some decent minutes.

devellano was at the lightening game and in between the intermissions he said that he was there to watch devil players in case a future trade or free agent situation came up with lou. so i think there might be a trade with the red wings real soon. I'd be surprised if so. Devellano finished the interview with a remark about how its always difficult making deals with Lou.

I'd be surprised if so. Devellano finished the interview with a remark about how its always difficult making deals with Lou.
What Devellano really meant is "It's really hard to rip off Lou".

No link yet just heard on another forum:
In addition to sending down Ryznar and Janssen, they also assigned Brown and Clemmensen to Albany on conditioning stints.

janssen and brown are only playing against hartford to get some playing time and to add toughness against the tough hartford team, then they are coming right back.

Janssen brought more to the team than scoring touch. I think, if he does in fact stay down in Albany, that his presence will be missed on the Devils roster.

As for Marshall, I like him as a player, but I also think we need a scorer on the 2nd line, to actually make it a scoring line. When are we going to see Parise-Brylin-Suglobov, or now that Kozlov is shooting he can center Parise and Suggy.

I couldn't agree with you more. Marshall is an effective player, but he is not a 2nd line guy. These last two games are evidence enough that we need to find a way to put together a productive 2nd scoring line behind Elias-Gomez-Gionta. If Lou is reluctant to thrust Suglobov into a scoring role right now, then he has to make a deal for a more experienced scorer.....

That would be my guess as the first prospect traded, just mostly a hunch.

Tallackson and Pihlman are the two I think that would be the most likely to be dealt in any future trades....

Tallackson and Pihlman are the two I think that would be the most likely to be dealt in any future trades....
Wow, Pihlman was my second choice too.

they already played. janssen and ryznar were not in the lineup.

Rats lost 4-2 to Manchester....Bergfors (6) and Nittel (5) scored, both on the PP and Suglobov picked up a pair of assists....Is Nittel setting himself up for another second half scoring spree? It's too bad that he always seems to have a tough time staying healthy early on in the year. A collapsed lung was the most recent ailment to keep him out of the line-up.....

lol, for some reason theahl.com is reporting Nittel to have the second goal. Bergfors actually got both goals.

(Unless there is some inexplicable thing that happened, I don't see how Nittel got credit. Must be a mistake by them.)

The Rats really dominated the first half of the game tonight. Had it not been for Hauser's stellar play, this would have been a blowout.

I am really impressed with Nittel's game. I never remember him being as good as he is now.

I said Janssen was being able to be sent down because, yes, he does play a spark plug role, but he's filling that role on the 4th line because marshall is on the second, esentially, they're the same type of player, except Marshy scores here and there. So, you make a trade for a 2nd line RW and you send Marshall to the 4th line to do what Cam does, and he has more experience come playoff time, it just makes sense.

lol, for some reason theahl.com is reporting Nittel to have the second goal. Bergfors actually got both goals.

(Unless there is some inexplicable thing that happened, I don't see how Nittel got credit. Must be a mistake by them.)

The Rats really dominated the first half of the game tonight. Had it not been for Hauser's stellar play, this would have been a blowout.

I am really impressed with Nittel's game. I never remember him being as good as he is now.

Well then. Good for Bergfors...lol....I saw that the shots were 17-3 at one point for the Rats :amazed: , so the goaltending on the other end must have been good. Hopefully Nittel can stay healthy the rest of the way and contribute on a regular basis....

It's good to see Bergfors break out of his slump. He needs to play in the NHL next year :)

Clemmenson and Sean Brown were also sent down. Hopefully Brown doesn't come back up.

Lou probably isn't planning on more than 1 short practice during the four days off, considering how tired the team is now.


Also, considering how short on manpower Albany is, Lou probably figured that they would need some help.

Manpower shortage? There are 5 healthy scratches every game. I wouldn't be shocked to see a prospect fw (or d-man for that matter) go.

Why don't the Devils call up Nik Bergfors........They need more offense against Ottawa on Wed......SO why not give this kid a chance, cant hurt......I like to see him on a wing with Kozlov and Parise, i think they could be a nice follow up line to the EGG's............Also hopefully Clemmenson stays in Albany and Doyle is recalled......

And 1 last thing

If there was a possible deal with Detroit what would it be!

Why don't the Devils call up Nik Bergfors........They need more offense against Ottawa on Wed......SO why not give this kid a chance, cant hurt......I like to see him on a wing with Kozlov and Parise, i think they could be a nice follow up line to the EGG's............Also hopefully Clemmenson stays in Albany and Doyle is recalled......

And 1 last thing

If there was a possible deal with Detroit what would it be!


at this point i dont see Bergfors as anywhere near ready for the NHL his long drought was recently broken last night, next year is more realistic. Suglobov and either Tallackson/Pihlman/Ilkka should be the call-ups. even Vrana wouldnt seem like a bad call-up to counter Ottawa's speed.

i think that the devils might want to develop the rats skills a little more so that they can have better depth coming up? a good ahl team means if someone gets hurt, you have a nice big field to choose from...just a thought.

at this point i dont see Bergfors as anywhere near ready for the NHL his long drought was recently broken last night, next year is more realistic. Suglobov and either Tallackson/Pihlman/Ilkka should be the call-ups. even Vrana wouldnt seem like a bad call-up to counter Ottawa's speed.

Yeah, wasnt Vrana highly though of?


And what about this line Parise-Vrana-Suglobov?

Bergfors with an assist so far tonight.

Tallackson is on fire. 3 assists last night, and so far another goal and assist tonight. Suglobov too. Another goal, and a bunch of assists in the last few games.

Tallackson is on fire. 3 assists last night, and so far another goal and assist tonight. Suglobov too. Another goal, and a bunch of assists in the last few games.

Maybe it's time we give these two kids a legit shot with the club, what else do they need to do?

Yeah, wasnt Vrana highly though of?


And what about this line Parise-Vrana-Suglobov?

The way I figure if your second line is comprised of rookies, you are in trouble. Rarely do you see rookie lines make an impact worthy of being a second line, fourth yes, but definitely not second

Suglobov with 2 goals tonight. In 38 games this season, he has 19 goals and 17 assists for 36 points. That's .50 gpg and .95 ppg.

Over an 80 game season, he would be on pace for 40 goals, 36 Assists, and 76 points on a sucky team with no real help. Not bad.

Tallackson has also been impressive, scoring 27 points in 34 games, and totalling a +5, which, on the Rats, is very impressive.

The way I figure if your second line is comprised of rookies, you are in trouble. Rarely do you see rookie lines make an impact worthy of being a second line, fourth yes, but definitely not second

Probably. But then we need a 2nd line winger/center who is in his prime or is a veteran. At this point the only have one which is Parise and he is a rookie. The rest are 3rd or 4th liners. Maybe when those players are a bit more developed in the NHL the line might be able to work.

Probably. But then we need a 2nd line winger/center who is in his prime or is a veteran. At this point the only have one which is Parise and he is a rookie. The rest are 3rd or 4th liners. Maybe when those players are a bit more developed in the NHL the line might be able to work.
Doug Weight.

Problem is that their will be alot of competition for him so his price will be costly in terms of prospects and draft picks, and that's only if the Blues are looking to trade him too.

Not much out there it seems this year.

Doug Weight.

Problem is that their will be alot of competition for him so his price will be costly in terms of prospects and draft picks, and that's only if the Blues are looking to trade him too.

Not much out there it seems this year.

Weight would be an ideal fit, but like you said, competition for him will be stiff, and the chances of retaining him over the long haul may not be good. Weight has come out and said that wouldn't rule out returning to St.Louis as an UFA is he did indeed get dealt. I'd rather get 2nd line help more cheaply if at all possible....

Suglobov with 2 goals tonight. In 38 games this season, he has 19 goals and 17 assists for 36 points. That's .50 gpg and .95 ppg.

Over an 80 game season, he would be on pace for 40 goals, 36 Assists, and 76 points on a sucky team with no real help. Not bad.

Tallackson has also been impressive, scoring 27 points in 34 games, and totalling a +5, which, on the Rats, is very impressive.

I really, really think it's time to give Suglobov an extended look on a scoring line in New Jersey. Really, what does Lou have to lose by doing it? If he's not ready, then he's not ready, but if he is, then maybe the idea of having to make a deal to acquire some scoring will be negated somewhat.

Depending on what happens over the trade deadline, I think next years Devil team could have quite an infusion of youth upfront. A lot of the guys down at Albany will likely be really close to making a case for full time NHL jobs over the next season or two, and others aren't that far behind them. Guys like Suglobov, Tallackson and Pihlman are probably the closest, with guys like Vrana, Ryznar, Clarkson and Voros a couple years away and then guys like Bergfors, Khomutov and Nittel. New Jersey looks to have a great future up on the forward ranks....

Weight would be an ideal fit, but like you said, competition for him will be stiff, and the chances of retaining him over the long haul may not be good. Weight has come out and said that wouldn't rule out returning to St.Louis as an UFA is he did indeed get dealt. I'd rather get 2nd line help more cheaply if at all possible....
Yeah he loves it there.

I really, really think it's time to give Suglobov an extended look on a scoring line in New Jersey. Really, what does Lou have to lose by doing it? If he's not ready, then he's not ready, but if he is, then maybe the idea of having to make a deal to acquire some scoring will be negated somewhat.

If Lou thinks he's not ready, then we need to start asking ourselves will he ever be ready? He's not really a youngster anymore, he just turned 24.

If Lou thinks he's not ready, then we need to start asking ourselves will he ever be ready? He's not really a youngster anymore, he just turned 24.


Either play him now or trade him, what else does he have to do at this point to prove he is ready. If for some unknown reason Lou does not want to give a chance i can guarentee he is in Russia for good next year. This is the final year of his contract i believe and if i was Aleksander i wouldnt look back i would be on the first plane to Moscow. He must be looking around the AHL and seeing his countrymen who have in most cases done far less with a better cast playing extended periods in the NHL and thinking "what the F" i am angry for him.

To sign Weight we would need to give him a load of money and then we have Elias to worry about. But I honestly dont see Weight signing here. I am waiting for Lou to make magic happen and I think he can. Lol.

Or maybe the coaching staff is waiting to bring up Suglobov next year. In that case we wouldnt even have to go out and find an explosive offensive forward just a cheap one. And also find a good defenseman. And then be a bit patient with Suglobov. Maybe next year we might not be SCF material. But the year after who knows.

Players' perspective: to give them more playing time.
Club's perspective: some complaints in Albany about "lack of a competitive team". This helps by bringing more seasoned players to Albany - since the deal in Lakewood appears to be off. While the Rats have not been improving as well as the Devils, there is no comparison between the Rats now vs. six, seven weeks ago. Frankly, I do not know what is the cutoff for AHL playoffs. So, it's a win-win.

From the Bergen Record (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMzMmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY4NzE2NzMmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2) today:
Backup goaltender Scott Clemmensen loaded teammates Sean Brown, Cam Janssen and Jason Ryznar into his car Sunday and the quartet drove to Hartford to play for the Albany River Rats. All four were back at practice with the Devils on Monday.
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http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1138688104308340.xml&coll=1

Like it was just mentioned above...Clemenssen, Brown, Jannsen, Ryznar all called back up. Not surprisingly, it was just a conditioning stint. Why not call up Suggy or Tallackson instead of Ryznar?

Suglobov was called up to sit in the pressbox, sent back down for the AHL All Star game and was not recalled. Ryznar was sent down for conditioning and sent back up when the team needs coring and there are no injuries. I see a lot of fatigue setting in on this team and the scorers.

Today is a good day to make a deal. Nothing drastic but something. They play the two best teams in the Conference at home and I for one do not want to lost the game on Stevens night. Carolina got stronger. Ottawa was awful last night against Boston but I think this is a good time to make a deal and get a player in the lineup in time for the next stretch of tough games.

Suglobov still has to play in the AHL all star game/skills competition. Not time for him to come back up yet, even if he was intended to.