Who to fear in a shootout?

octopi
01-27-2006, 03:59 PM
Okay, admittedly I haven't seen every NHL team play every game(I'm so ashamed!) however I will metion these palyers as out-and-out scary to face in a shootout.

IMHO order:

1. Ovechkin
2. Jagr
3. Kovalchuk
4. Gagne
5. Alfredsson
6. Heatley
7. Nash

(And yes, I'm sure theres some people I haven't thought of)

SingnBluesOnBroadway
01-27-2006, 04:00 PM
Actually, Jagr's not been a sure thing. Petr Prucha's been spectacular, though.

Yureeka47*
01-27-2006, 04:03 PM
Jussi Jokinen should be #1

Vanucks
01-27-2006, 04:06 PM
Jussi Jokinen should be #1
Hell yeah. 7-7 so far....

Frickin' unbelievable.

triggrman
01-27-2006, 04:12 PM
Paul Kariya has been pretty good but he's not on the team..

octopi
01-27-2006, 04:14 PM
Paul Kariya has been pretty good but he's not on the team..

Yeah, I think I only listed people who we actually know are going to the Olympics.

TheKingPin
01-27-2006, 04:17 PM
you got to take Gagne off. He is very good but on shoot outs and breakaways alike he is horrible.

B Boarding
01-27-2006, 04:24 PM
Sundin. Because he always scores when it matters the most. He has a killer backhand to go with excellent reach.

USC Trojans
01-27-2006, 04:28 PM
Hemsky. Not only does he score on you, he makes you look silly in the process.

Kowalchuk
01-27-2006, 04:30 PM
Sergei Zubov and Jussi Jokinen

banana phone
01-27-2006, 04:33 PM
Jokinen hands down.

Ovechkin second place.

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 04:40 PM
Another post for Jussi Jokinen. Viktor Kozlov's sole contribution for the last month has been as a shootout specialist. With the Olympics being a 5 man shootout, he might have a spot behind Ovechkin/Kovalchuk/Datsyuk/Zubov.

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 04:52 PM
Just because I'm bored and this will help me kill the next 30 minutes at work:

Canada:

Brodeur: 20/23 (.870)
Luongo: 10/15 (.667)
Turco: 11/12 (.910)

Bertuzzi: 1/4 (.250)
Doan: 0/1 (.000)
Heatley: 2/5 (.400)
Iginla: 1/5 (.200)
Lecavalier: 2/4 (.500)
Nash: 1/3 (.333)
Niedermayer: 0/1 (.000)
Richards: 2/4 (.500)
Sakic: 0/4 (.000) :eek:
Smyth: 3/5 (.600)
St. Louis: 0/2 (.000)
Thornton: 1/4 (.000)


Draper, Blake, Foote, Jovanovski, Pronger, Redden, Regehr: N/A

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 04:58 PM
USA:

DiPietro: 17/25 (.680)
Esche: N/A
Grahame: 7/11 (.636)

Blake: 1/4 (.250)
Cole: 1/1 (1.000)
Conroy: 0/1 (.000)
Drury: 0/1 (.000)
Gionta: 4/7 (.571)
Gomez: 0/1 (.000)
Knuble: 0/2 (.000)
Modano: 1/4 (.250)
Parrish: 1/2 (.500)
Rolston: 0/3 (.000)
Weight: 1/5 (.200)

Chelios, Guerin, Hatcher, Leopold, Liles, Miller, Rafalski, Schneider, Tkachuk: N/A

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:04 PM
Russia:

Bryzgalov: N/A
Khabibulin: 4/7 (.571)
Nabokov: 5/13 (.385)

Afinogenov: 1/2 (.500)
Datsyuk: 1/1 (1.000)
Frolov: 3/3 (1.000)
Kovalchuk: 1/5 (.200)
Kovalev: 1/2 (.500)
Kozlov: 5/8 (.625)
Ovechkin: 6/9 (.667)
Yashin: 1/6 (.167)
Zubov: 4/7 (.571)

Bykov, Gonchar, Kasparaitis, Kharitanov, Malkin, A.Markov, D.Markov, Sushinsky, Tyutin, Volchenkov, Zhamnov, Zhitnik: N/A

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:09 PM
Czech Republic:

Hasek: 9/14 (.643)
Hnilicka: N/A
Vokoun: 9/14 (.643)

Cajanek: 1/3 (.333)
Hejduk: 0/4 (.000) :eek:
Hemsky: 3/7 (.429)
Jagr: 2/6 (.333)
Kuba: 0/1 (.000)
Malik: 1/1 (1.000) :bow:
Prucha: 2/5 (.400)
Rucinsky: 0/1 (.000)
Straka: 1/5 (.200)
Vyborny: 1/3 (.333)
Zidlicky: 1/4 (.250)

Bulis, Erat, F.Kaberle, T.Kaberle, Kubina, Lang, Olesz, Spacek: N/A

Roy G Biv*
01-27-2006, 05:13 PM
Jokinen

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:14 PM
Slovakia:

Budaj: 3/11 (.273) :eek: (not just putting it by Avs players....just a coincidence so far)
Lasak/Kristan: N/A

Bondra: 0/2 (.000)
Demitra: 2/3 (.667)
Gabork: 0/2 (.000)
Handzus: 2/3 (.667)
Marian Hossa: 2/5 (.400)
Marcel Hossa: 0/1 (.000)
Nagy: 1/4 (.250)
Satan: 3/5 (.400)
Svatos: 2/4 (.500)

Bartecko, Chara, Jurcina, Kapus, Majesky, Meszaros, Strbak, Stumpel, Suchy, Visnovsky, Zednik: N/A

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:19 PM
Sweden:

Liv: N/A
Lundqvist: 23/28 (.821)
Tellqvist: 0/2 (.000)

Alfredsson: 2/5 (.400)
Axelsson: 0/1 (.000)
Forsberg: 1/3 (.333)
Naslund: 0/4 (.000) :eek:
D.Sedin: 1/2 (.500)
Sundin: 1/2 (.500)

Backman, Hannula, Johnsson, J.Jonsson, K.Jonsson, Kronwall, Lidstrom, Modin, Norstrom, Ohlund, Pahlsson, Samuelsson, H.Sedin, Zetterberg: N/A

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:25 PM
Finland:

Nittymaki: 11/20 (.550)
Norrena/?: N/A

J.Jokinen: 7/7 (1.000) :clap:
O.Jokinen: 1/4 (.250)
M.Koivu: 1/2 (.500)
Laaksonen: 1/1 (1.000) -- beauty against Brodeur
Miettinen: 1/1 (1.000)
T.Ruutu: 1/1 (1.000) -- injured
Selanne: 2/5 (.400)

Berg, Hentunen, N.Kapanen, S.Kapanen, S.Koivu, Lehtonen, Lydman, Numminen, Peltonen, Pitkanen, J.Ruutu, Salo, Timonen, Vaananen: N/A

SChan*
01-27-2006, 05:34 PM
Finland:

Nittymaki: 11/20 (.550)
Norrena/?: N/A

J.Jokinen: 7/7 (1.000) :clap:
O.Jokinen: 1/4 (.250)
M.Koivu: 1/2 (.500)
Laaksonen: 1/1 (1.000) -- beauty against Brodeur
Miettinen: 1/1 (1.000)
T.Ruutu: 1/1 (1.000) -- injured
Selanne: 2/5 (.400)

Berg, Hentunen, N.Kapanen, S.Kapanen, S.Koivu, Lehtonen, Lydman, Numminen, Peltonen, Pitkanen, J.Ruutu, Salo, Timonen, Vaananen: N/A


Finland is the best shootout team.

Brodeur
01-27-2006, 05:37 PM
Finland is the best shootout team.

The sample space is far too small to really extrapolate anything. Just thought it would be nice to toss out some actual numbers to go along with "Player X has sweet moves" from posters touting their team's players.

Russia looks like it has the deepest 1-5 in terms of shooters.

BlackLabel
01-27-2006, 05:37 PM
Finland is the best shootout team.

I don't know. Niittymäki isn't very good at shootouts.

SChan*
01-27-2006, 05:55 PM
btw isn't there a sudden death until someone scores in olympics?

12# Peter Bondra
01-27-2006, 05:58 PM
btw isn't there a sudden death until someone scores in olympics?
No.

Piggymon
01-27-2006, 07:06 PM
Sundin. Because he always scores when it matters the most. He has a killer backhand to go with excellent reach.
Seconding this, I think NHL shootouts are one thing but you shouldn't underestimate clutch Sundin and his backhand / 5hole forehand. I guess Sakic is another one of those guys you'd trust with your life, even if he's failed in the shootouts this season...

kingsfan25
01-27-2006, 07:08 PM
If you want to narrow it down, Team Slovakia.

SammyTheBull
01-27-2006, 07:12 PM
Jokinen

illone84
01-27-2006, 07:54 PM
JUSSI JOKINEN! #1 SHOOTOUT :clap:

Philly Flyer Fan*
01-27-2006, 07:59 PM
Jason Allison :sarcasm:

familyguyman
01-28-2006, 12:15 AM
Marek Malik, Rick Nash and Jussi Jokinen. Those three have style, grace and insane highlight reel performances.

someguy44
01-28-2006, 05:07 AM
Marek Malik, Rick Nash and Jussi Jokinen. Those three have style, grace and insane highlight reel performances.


Don't forget Ovechkin. Malik might be a one hit wonder. The guy has hands of stone. In shootouts though, anybody can be good.

The real players to fear are the goalies. Turco and Brodeur are amongst the best in shootouts in the tournament. Loungo isn't far behind either so really, it's Canada's goalies that are to be feared the most.

12# Peter Bondra
01-28-2006, 05:45 AM
Slovakia:

Budaj: 3/11 (.273) :eek: (not just putting it by Avs players....just a coincidence so far)
Lasak/Kristan: N/A

Bondra: 0/2 (.000)
Demitra: 2/3 (.667)
Gabork: 0/2 (.000)
Handzus: 2/3 (.667)
Marian Hossa: 2/5 (.400)
Marcel Hossa: 0/1 (.000)
Nagy: 1/4 (.250)
Satan: 3/5 (.400)
Svatos: 2/4 (.500)

Bartecko, Chara, Jurcina, Kapus, Majesky, Meszaros, Strbak, Stumpel, Suchy, Visnovsky, Zednik: N/A
Stumpel went once in a shootout for sure.

He is atleast 0/1 (if not more).

vitogor
01-28-2006, 09:03 AM
I must've missed something. I thought Zubov was skipping the Olympics for the umpteenth time. Did he change his mind?

J-D
01-28-2006, 11:23 AM
My money's on:

Kovalchuk
Ovechkin
Vik Kozlov





Malik

Form and Substance
01-28-2006, 01:43 PM
Juicy Baby!!

Brodeur
01-28-2006, 03:17 PM
Stumpel went once in a shootout for sure.

He is atleast 0/1 (if not more).

Yup, 0/1. Wouldn't surprise me if I missed a couple more.

gamera
01-28-2006, 03:20 PM
is there a stat for shoot out goals? (I suppose I could go look it up, but that would take all the fun out of it ;) )

doh, there it is... (looked it up)

1 JUSSI JOKINEN DAL L 7 7 100.0 2 3 3 100.0 0 4 4 100.0 2
2 ALEXANDER OVECHKIN WSH L 9 6 66.7 3 7 5 71.4 2 2 1 50.0 1
3 VIKTOR KOZLOV NJD R 8 5 62.5 4 4 2 50.0 2 4 3 75.0 2
4 SERGEI ZUBOV DAL D 7 4 57.1 3 3 1 33.3 1 4 3 75.0 2
5 BRIAN GIONTA NJD R 7 4 57.1 1 3 1 33.3 0 4 3 75.0 1
6 ALEXANDER FROLOV LAK L 3 3 100.0 1 1 1 100.0 0 2 2 100.0 1
7 GEOFF SANDERSON PHX L 3 3 100.0 2 1 1 100.0 0 2 2 100.0 2
8 JAROSLAV BALASTIK CBJ L 4 3 75.0 1 1 0 0.0 0 3 3 100.0 1
9 MIKE RICHARDS PHI C 4 3 75.0 1 2 2 100.0 1 2 1 50.0 0
10 PAUL KARIYA NSH L 5 3 60.0 2 3 2 66.7 1 2 1 50.0 1

psycho_dad
01-28-2006, 03:24 PM
is there a stat for shoot out goals? (I suppose I could go look it up, but that would take all the fun out of it ;) )

doh, there it is... (looked it up)

http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/stats

Use that.

gamera
01-28-2006, 03:26 PM
yah, thanks....I edited my post while you were replying ;)

psycho_dad
01-28-2006, 06:06 PM
Now Jokinen is 8 for 8. Scored yet another shootout goal.

2Leetch_94
01-28-2006, 08:08 PM
Don't forget Ovechkin. Malik might be a one hit wonder. The guy has hands of stone. In shootouts though, anybody can be good.

The real players to fear are the goalies. Turco and Brodeur are amongst the best in shootouts in the tournament. Loungo isn't far behind either so really, it's Canada's goalies that are to be feared the most.


Lundqvist has been excellent in the shootouts as well. 23/28. Not sure how he did playing in Sweden, though. Only going by what i've seen this season.

12# Peter Bondra
01-29-2006, 09:07 AM
Yup, 0/1. Wouldn't surprise me if I missed a couple more.
Actually, the one he missed, he deked out Antero N. completely but the puck stood up and he missed. Had the puck not stood up, he would have been 1/1.

BlackLabel
01-29-2006, 09:53 AM
Now Jokinen is 8 for 8. Scored yet another shootout goal.
:bow: :bow: :bow:

big_steve
01-29-2006, 11:22 AM
Jokinen is just God when it comes to shootouts.

arrbez
01-29-2006, 11:26 AM
I say we throw a parade for the man who stops Jokinen on a shootout

dok101
01-29-2006, 01:45 PM
Aside from being the NHL player with the most goals at the Olympic level (9), Miro Satan is quite capable at the shootout as well.

TheDamned*
01-29-2006, 01:50 PM
Not sure if it was mentionned but Alex Kovalev, he got mad skills.

Avery4Byng
01-29-2006, 01:53 PM
Jarkko Ruutu :bow:

gars59
01-29-2006, 02:01 PM
pierre dagenais , but he is in ahl :sarcasm:

Hedberg
01-29-2006, 02:41 PM
Jarkko Ruutu :bow:
Yes. Don't get in a shootout with Finland.

ice berg slim
01-29-2006, 02:55 PM
not joe sakic thats for sure

Tume
01-29-2006, 03:07 PM
Aside from being the NHL player with the most goals at the Olympic level (9), Miro Satan is quite capable at the shootout as well.

I´m not sure if I understood you correctly...but Selanne has 14 goals at the Olympic level.

12# Peter Bondra
01-29-2006, 03:12 PM
Maybe he meant in one tournament? :dunno:

NJ_Devil_Boy
01-29-2006, 03:17 PM
Brodeur
Kozlov

Tume
01-29-2006, 04:37 PM
Maybe he meant in one tournament? :dunno:

Maybe....that´s why I wasn´t sure about what he meant...

AfroThunder396
01-29-2006, 06:54 PM
I think it should be meantioned that Gomez is 1/1 on penalty shots this year. My shootout dream team:
Jokinen
Kozlov
Malik :bow:
Ovechkin
Jokinen (again) :bow:

Slitty
01-29-2006, 10:41 PM
Russia will probably feature something like:

1. Ovechkin
2. Datsyuk
3. Afinogenov
4. Kovalev/Kovalchuk/Whoever is Hot
5. Kozlov

If we didnt have Nabokov in net, I'd like our chances come a shootout.

DaMick
01-29-2006, 10:47 PM
Malik id say...God only knows what next street hockey move he'll pull out

barfy2000
01-29-2006, 11:17 PM
Marek Malik

langs15
01-29-2006, 11:33 PM
To score- Kozlov

To protect the net- Brodeur

FoppaArGud
01-29-2006, 11:34 PM
Alfredsson, Jagr (though he CHOKED in the WCs in Prague; devastation moment!), Foppa, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk.

Hasek and Vokoun both, man, Vokoun murdered the Flyers in our first shootout of the year.

Pretty much every team is dangerous. Lots of clutch players, too, like Hagman, Ruutu, Prospal, Dvorak etc that dont get that much attention.

I am really looking forward to seeing the great open ice defenders operate, if you ask me there is some marvelous defense in international play from guys like Lidstrom, Lehtonen, Handzus, etc. I think it has improved Chara a lot, too, he really has to shoulder a huge load and play in every spot for the Slovakian squad.

Metallian*
01-29-2006, 11:54 PM
Jussi Jokinen & Ovechkin

Hyack57
01-30-2006, 12:01 AM
Finland:

Nittymaki: 11/20 (.550)
Norrena/?: N/A

J.Jokinen: 7/7 (1.000) :clap:
O.Jokinen: 1/4 (.250)
M.Koivu: 1/2 (.500)
Laaksonen: 1/1 (1.000) -- beauty against Brodeur
Miettinen: 1/1 (1.000)
T.Ruutu: 1/1 (1.000) -- injured
Selanne: 2/5 (.400)

Berg, Hentunen, N.Kapanen, S.Kapanen, S.Koivu, Lehtonen, Lydman, Numminen, Peltonen, Pitkanen, J.Ruutu, Salo, Timonen, Vaananen: N/A

Jarkko Ruutu is 2 for 2... @ Chi and @ Col last night.

NYRGoalieGlut*
01-30-2006, 02:05 AM
I hope that the Malik thing is toungue in cheek. I doubt he can pull off that move twice and that was a trick shot. Can he be relied on to score on a non-gimmick goal that the goalie might expect and has seen before?

Haik
01-30-2006, 02:21 AM
I think Russia has the most dangerous group.

edd1e
01-30-2006, 06:29 AM
I think Russia has the most dangerous group.

i think so too.

Jimmi Jenkins
01-30-2006, 06:30 AM
I think Russia has the most dangerous group.

Either them or the Slovaks, they just have snipers