Almo coming back next year?

I know that it is unlikely that the Devils will call Mogilny up this season and risk losing him while taking a cap hit for half his salary, but it seems Lou may be warming up to having him on the team next year.

From today's Asbury Park Press:

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060125/SPORTS/601250460/1002

While Lamoriello previously has said banished-to-Albany forward Alex Mogilny will not return to the Devils this season, Tuesday night he acknowledged, "Maybe next year."

Obviously, you're not going to get much more than that from Lou.

If Mogilny is recalled after the season, is he still subject to waivers? I thought he would be, but I caught this in yesterday's NY Sun:

http://www.nysun.com/article/26352

It's unlikely Lamoriello would make such a move, instead waiting until the end of the regular season to recall Mogilny after the waiver process has been suspended.

Is it possible that both Almo and McGillis start next season on the roster, at least so they can be traded? Both would be more attractive to other teams considering they'd be on the last year of their deals.

why did your gm send him down?

I was wondering that too. The way I figure it, every training camp is a new season and a new chance to make the team. Otherwise, why would the Devils have traded for Ference knowing that he had already cleared waivers. I thought they were going to wait for next year for him to make the team. And I still think that McGillis has a shot at making the team next year. I don't think he was as bad as he was made out to be. He really didn't get much of a chance.

I was wondering that too. The way I figure it, every training camp is a new season and a new chance to make the team. Otherwise, why would the Devils have traded for Ference knowing that he had already cleared waivers. I thought they were going to wait for next year for him to make the team. And I still think that McGillis has a shot at making the team next year. I don't think he was as bad as he was made out to be. He really didn't get much of a chance.
Statistically he was playing well, but he wasn't backchecking and apparently was a bit of a distraction in the locker room. This was all covered a couple of weeks ago on several threads. Don't be afraid to look back.

As far as McGillis and Mogilny being up with the team next year, it is entirely possible. Albelin won't be around forever, and if Mogilny could remember how to play defense, I'm sure Lou would love to have him up on the big club again. Of course a little attitude adjustment would also be needed.

Couldn't Almo get called up after the regular season for the playoffs with no effect on the cap or threat to be claimed?

If that is the case, as lathargic as people might argue he was on ice for the Devils this season it would not be a bad thing to have his presence and scoring ability in the playoffs.

Scratch the thought if it cannot happen due to a rule.

why did your gm send him down?

He brought that Tronta winning attitude to the locker room. :sarcasm:


Apparently Almo was bad in the locker room, I'm not questioning the decision, the team is playing better without him.

He brought that Tronta winning attitude to the locker room. :sarcasm:


Apparently Almo was bad in the locker room, I'm not questioning the decision, the team is playing better without him.


really?

in TO he was great, and i dont mean his numbers. And i dont think the team playing better has much to do with Mogilny not being there. Mogilny is clutch, esp in the playoffs, i think it was a big mistake to send him down for the season.

really?

in TO he was great, and i dont mean his numbers. And i dont think the team playing better has much to do with Mogilny not being there. Mogilny is clutch, esp in the playoffs, i think it was a big mistake to send him down for the season.
They are 10-1 without Mogilny and our goals-per-game are up while our goals-given-up-per-game are down. Mogilny was absolutely awesome for us back in 00-01, and I know he was great in Toronto. But he was unhappy this year, and it showed. Lou the GM didn't make the move to send him down until Lou the Coach witnessed Mogs' locker room behavior for himself. It was a good move, and the team is playing better because of it.

Couldn't Almo get called up after the regular season for the playoffs with no effect on the cap or threat to be claimed?

If that is the case, as lathargic as people might argue he was on ice for the Devils this season it would not be a bad thing to have his presence and scoring ability in the playoffs.

Scratch the thought if it cannot happen due to a rule.

Good question, I'm curious too. Does anyone know the answer?

Lou is smart, he probably knows that teams will be waiting for ALMO and McGillis to be claimed when they are recalled from Albany. He figures to put it out there that they won't be recalled knowing there will be teams that will need scoring/d down the stretch. Either way, worst case, he deals with the issue next season and they may more attractive with one year deals.


I can see a team making an offer to take either player towards the end of the year. Either way, the teams winning and way mess up a good thing.

Statistically he was playing well, but he wasn't backchecking and apparently was a bit of a distraction in the locker room. This was all covered a couple of weeks ago on several threads. Don't be afraid to look back.

As far as McGillis and Mogilny being up with the team next year, it is entirely possible. Albelin won't be around forever, and if Mogilny could remember how to play defense, I'm sure Lou would love to have him up on the big club again. Of course a little attitude adjustment would also be needed.

In your first paragraph, you didn't explain who "he" was. I am assuming you are talking about Molgilny. I remember just as well as you all the threads about Molgilny being a cancer in the dressing room. I just don't buy it. Molgilny has always been a sarcastic guy who likes to joke around with the media and his teammates. I guess Lou just didn't like it. In any case, I think Molgilny deserves another shot in training camp next year.

As for McGillis, he definitely wasn't our best defenceman but he wasn't the worst either. He got the short end of the stick when Larry benched him in favour of Malakhov because Malakhov is a better PP quarterback and the Devils PP sucked at that point in time. Mala didn't help much but Rafi and Martin just weren't doing it at the point then. The only problem with McGillis is that he doesn't really fit into the Devil's defensive system of having one offensive d-man and one stay at home guy. McGillis is a moderately offensive defenceman and is okay defensively but isn't solid enough to be either.

Good question, I'm curious too. Does anyone know the answer?


Inquiring minds want to know.

sad story for mogilny. he would still have chemistry with gomez if it weren't for his legs. his shot is still there but his legs aren't. gomez needs speed on his line and mogilny is now too slow.

why did your gm send him down?

He sucked beyond belief.

Still does, too.

He sucked beyond belief.

Still does, too.


This is a little extreme. To say he lost a step is true because he was considerably slower. But the guy can still shoot the puck effectively and with a good shot you can still score. The guy did have 12 goals and that is not chopped liver. He would still be 3rd on the team in scoring and he has not played on the Devils for month.
He is a classy guys but he either said something to the unliking of Lou at a team meeting, or just in the mind of Lou was nothelping as Larry Robinson stated.

Still feel with all the vet signings this past offseason that Lou messed up on he was thinking about the post season a bit. I would take mogilny back for the post season and wouldn't it be nice to see him score a $3.5 goal at the right time. He had most of his goals in the 3rd period this season and it a clutch player with a dangerous shot the way he skates and shoots simultaneously. He can still throw many a goalies off.

He did not suck beyond belief.

Yes he did.

He's even worse on the Rats. :shakehead

Mogilny's not going to get any better next year, if he's called up it will be because Lou found a sucker. McGillis is a $2.2M sixth defenceman, you just can't afford that with a cap, especially when you can likely find someone for under a million on the free agent market.

almo is a turd nugget for not playing tonite. mcgillis is highly loved but needs to stop showing off. there was a reason he was waived. he needs to play like he's got everything to lose.

Lou show no respect for Almo. Ok he's not the guy who scored 76 goals but by sending a 1000 points guy wh need about 10 games to reach 1000 and 25-30 goals for 500, wow. If he think he made a mistake, ok recall him let him at least the chance to play somewhere else anyway he wont hurt him a bottom standing club will grab him anyway.

Lou force Malakhov to retire, try to do the same with Mogilny. NHLPA should do something about that. I thing for sure i hope players will boycott NJ fornot signing with NJ for a few years.

I love other NJ players but only for Lou i only wish all the bad for doing this and if he can get too much injuries for having no choice but to recall Almo and Mcgillis i will be more than happy.

Why Almo has not playing last 2 games at Albany ??? They are trying to get him off he team and send to east coast ???

Lou show no respect for Almo. Ok he's not the guy who scored 76 goals but by sending a 1000 points guy wh need about 10 games to reach 1000 and 25-30 goals for 500, wow. If he think he made a mistake, ok recall him let him at least the chance to play somewhere else anyway he wont hurt him a bottom standing club will grab him anyway.

Lou force Malakhov to retire, try to do the same with Mogilny. NHLPA should do something about that. I thing for sure i hope players will boycott NJ fornot signing with NJ for a few years.

I love other NJ players but only for Lou i only wish all the bad for doing this and if he can get too much injuries for having no choice but to recall Almo and Mcgillis i will be more than happy.

Why Almo has not playing last 2 games at Albany ??? They are trying to get him off he team and send to east coast ???



he too slow for the New Nhl. and apparently, many of us believe he was a cancer in the locker room. yea he still has his shot, but he does not backcheck or even look like he playing with a passion.

Lou show no respect for Almo. Ok he's not the guy who scored 76 goals but by sending a 1000 points guy wh need about 10 games to reach 1000 and 25-30 goals for 500, wow. If he think he made a mistake, ok recall him let him at least the chance to play somewhere else anyway he wont hurt him a bottom standing club will grab him anyway.

Lou force Malakhov to retire, try to do the same with Mogilny. NHLPA should do something about that. I thing for sure i hope players will boycott NJ fornot signing with NJ for a few years.

I love other NJ players but only for Lou i only wish all the bad for doing this and if he can get too much injuries for having no choice but to recall Almo and Mcgillis i will be more than happy.

Why Almo has not playing last 2 games at Albany ??? They are trying to get him off he team and send to east coast ???

Same old troll garbage, we know kebbler's laying off, I didn't know so many would end up on the Devils message boards.

This issue has been spoken about AD NASEUM on this board as it pertains to Mr. Malakhov and ALMO. You don't have any proof of Vlad being forced off and Lou and LR felt Almo was bad in the locker room. You can't question the move the team is playing better with Almo out of the lineup. As for you wishing bad on LL and Devils being injured so Almo and McGillis get recalled, grow up. You're clearly a young frustrated lad, Go find about the joys of playing in traffic. It's not nice when people wish you ill, is it?

So for your selfish reasons you want the Devils to play Almo so he pad his stats?

How much peoples told last NHL season that Selanne and Kariya were done ??? They simply had a slump one year. Both having a pretty nice year. They dont send those guys to minors. NO i dont want guys of NJ be hurt badly cause i like Elias and Gomez and Madden and any others but just 5-6 guys getting sick at the same time who will play ??? NJ have nothing in Albany but 1-2 guys, so they will be in big trouble.

Mogilny played for 4 teams and never been a bad guy in the locker room so why this year ??? OK Lou dont like the guy this year so lets move on, recall him andlet him play somewhere thats it thats all. I put the new success more on the Elias return, give credit to this guy instead of telling that Mogilny is the only reason that they play bad. HE was still 3rd on team scoring and not getting a lot of ice time so..

Dont worry man i'm not a kid but they dont get 1 token from me anymore for doing those things to players like this.

How much peoples told last NHL season that Selanne and Kariya were done ??? They simply had a slump one year. Both having a pretty nice year. They dont send those guys to minors. NO i dont want guys of NJ be hurt badly cause i like Elias and Gomez and Madden and any others but just 5-6 guys getting sick at the same time who will play ??? NJ have nothing in Albany but 1-2 guys, so they will be in big trouble.

Mogilny played for 4 teams and never been a bad guy in the locker room so why this year ??? OK Lou dont like the guy this year so lets move on, recall him andlet him play somewhere thats it thats all. I put the new success more on the Elias return, give credit to this guy instead of telling that Mogilny is the only reason that they play bad. HE was still 3rd on team scoring and not getting a lot of ice time so..

Dont worry man i'm not a kid but they dont get 1 token from me anymore for doing those things to players like this.


Let me just say it's an honor to have you posting here Alex. You're suggesting Lou puts Mogilny above the team. If he is called up and claimed the Devils take a cap hit for half his salary. Pihlman, Tallackson, Suglobov, Ryznar, Janssen have all come up from Albany this year. In the unlikely event that 5 or 6 forwards get injured there are options that don't have to go through re-entry waivers.

I'm hoping that you are not thinking that i'm Alex :shakehead !!!

Seriously Pihlman, Tallackson, Suglobov, Ryznar, Janssen. Suglobov is real good, Janssen is a 3rd or 4th liner but his presence is ok for the team cause of his toughness. For salary cap it's better losing half than having to get 3.5$ less next year. Anyway it's not about that it's about respect for the player and what he's done to the league. Don't you think that is a powertrip by Lou ???

Anyway it's just my opinion your is as good as mine , i'm just talking about RESPECT for the guy.

Dont worry man i'm not a kid but they dont get 1 token from me anymore for doing those things to players like this.


i wonder what the 89 means. age or mogilny. :)

How much peoples told last NHL season that Selanne and Kariya were done ??? They simply had a slump one year. Both having a pretty nice year. They dont send those guys to minors. NO i dont want guys of NJ be hurt badly cause i like Elias and Gomez and Madden and any others but just 5-6 guys getting sick at the same time who will play ??? NJ have nothing in Albany but 1-2 guys, so they will be in big trouble.

Mogilny played for 4 teams and never been a bad guy in the locker room so why this year ??? OK Lou dont like the guy this year so lets move on, recall him andlet him play somewhere thats it thats all. I put the new success more on the Elias return, give credit to this guy instead of telling that Mogilny is the only reason that they play bad. HE was still 3rd on team scoring and not getting a lot of ice time so..

Dont worry man i'm not a kid but they dont get 1 token from me anymore for doing those things to players like this.

Ok, here are the problems.

1) For whatever reason, Almo was not working out with the Devils. We don't know why exactly, supposedly it was some locker room issue, but Lou is never going to let that slip. I don't think the problem is Lou "not liking" Almo, he wouldn't have resigned him for a good chunk of money if he didn't think Almo would be good for the team.

2) Lou tried to trade Almo. He delayed sending him to the minors so his agent could try and find a team that was interested. Problem was, nobody wanted an overpaid, aging sniper.

3) If we recall him and another team claims him, we'd be on the hook for half his salary. I don't know if that would fit under the cap right now or not, but even if it would, it leaves less room for Lou to potentially make a trade at the deadline. And, if he called him up and no one claimed him, we'd be stuck with him on the Devils roster again.

So, in conclusion, I don't know about this offseason or next year, but I doubt Almo will come back up this season.

Thanks for the clear answers DevilFans38.

For my 89 on my name now. First i'm a Buffalo Sabres fan and Almo was my favorite. When he was traded to Canucks i was still a Sabres fan but follow his carreer. wyldthing was pick so i put 89 on it, it's not my age i'm the same age than Mogilny .

I'm new to this forum as you can see, i will discuss a lot more that this tread but i can't imagine a future hall of famer goes to minor for a year. The new CBA miss something, buyout option for the player like some other sports. I' still really mad about Lou, ok he wait until send him to minor but recall him if nothing work return him again. The Malakhov, McGillis things make me think about that he's try to make him retire. Can someone tell me why he's not playing last 2 games at Albany ???

PS: Excuse my english it's not my main language.

I'm hoping that you are not thinking that i'm Alex :shakehead !!!

Seriously Pihlman, Tallackson, Suglobov, Ryznar, Janssen. Suglobov is real good, Janssen is a 3rd or 4th liner but his presence is ok for the team cause of his toughness. For salary cap it's better losing half than having to get 3.5$ less next year. Anyway it's not about that it's about respect for the player and what he's done to the league. Don't you think that is a powertrip by Lou ???

Anyway it's just my opinion your is as good as mine , i'm just talking about RESPECT for the guy.

Did you even read the beginning of this thread? It looks like the Devils could recall Almo after this season so that they don't have to take the $3.5M cap hit next year. There's also a possibility that that clause of the CBA will be reviewed in the offseason, since it was designed to prevent teams from giving aging players multi-year, frontloaded contracts with the understanding that the player would retire in a year or two and the cap hit would be less.

And it's not about respect for the player and what he's done to the league. HELLO? YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! Lou has the balls to do what's necessary for the team to be as successful as possible, even if that means banishing a player like Almo to the minors. Any other team could have picked him up off waivers for NOTHING but they didn't. Doesn't that tell you something? What about Mogilny respecting his contract working harder to backcheck and listen to the coaches and not cause problems in the locker room? Respect is a two-way street there buddy...giving a player too much respect for past accomplishments can bring a team down. Just look at the Rangers and how them "respecting" the hell out of Messier these past few seasons dragged the team down.

BTW...have you also gone on to the Lightning board to lecture them on the lack of respect they showed Andreychuck?

Thanks for the clear answers DevilFans38.

For my 89 on my name now. First i'm a Buffalo Sabres fan and Almo was my favorite. When he was traded to Canucks i was still a Sabres fan but follow his carreer. wyldthing was pick so i put 89 on it, it's not my age i'm the same age than Mogilny .

I'm new to this forum as you can see, i will discuss a lot more that this tread but i can't imagine a future hall of famer goes to minor for a year. The new CBA miss something, buyout option for the player like some other sports. I' still really mad about Lou, ok he wait until send him to minor but recall him if nothing work return him again. The Malakhov, McGillis things make me think about that he's try to make him retire. Can someone tell me why he's not playing last 2 games at Albany ???

PS: Excuse my english it's not my main language.

He SUCKS, that's why he isn't playing in Albany.

And to say the Rats have no one except 1 or 2 guys is ridiculous. New Jersey has some of the best prospects at forward in the league. Top 10 I would say...Now, defense and goaltender, that's a whole other story. But don't rag on the forwards...

How much peoples told last NHL season that Selanne and Kariya were done ???

Did both Selanne and Kariya have an arthritic hip at the age of 37 when they went into their slump last season? Just curious.

I' still really mad about Lou, ok he wait until send him to minor but recall him if nothing work return him again. The Malakhov, McGillis things make me think about that he's try to make him retire.

Don't be mad at Lou, be mad at the NHL & NHLPA for setting up this new system where you can wipe a player's salary from the cap by sending him to the minors, but can't recall him w/o potentially losing him for nothing and being on the hook for half his salary/cap hit.

As the other poster pointed out, Lou & Almo's agent tried to find another team to take him. There were no takers. Lou felt the team was better off without Almo. What other choice did he have?

He SUCKS, that's why he isn't playing in Albany.

He score the winner at his 1st game, team got blank in 2nd and get an assist on the 3rd game after he's not playing. Still think they want him to retire.

And to say the Rats have no one except 1 or 2 guys is ridiculous. New Jersey has some of the best prospects at forward in the league. Top 10 I would say...Now, defense and goaltender, that's a whole other story. But don't rag on the forwards...

Top 10 forwards prospect at Albany ??? :D :D :D



Did both Selanne and Kariya have an arthritic hip at the age of 37 when they went into their slump last season? Just curious.

Tell me why he sign him without medicals if he was as bad shape as you think ???

Anyway i'm done with this tread i got descent answers from peoples who dont simply hate him.

Can someone tell me why he's not playing last 2 games at Albany ???

PS: Excuse my english it's not my main language.

From what I understand he hasn't played because he has been in New Jersey for therapy on his sore back. He is supposedly back now, so I'm guessing he'll play pretty soon. Robbie Ftorek also said in one of the local papers here that Mogilny played hurt in the game he played last Friday, which might explain some of his poor play (and he honestly has not played very well.)

Don't worry about your English, it's fine.

From what I understand he hasn't played because he has been in New Jersey for therapy on his sore back. He is supposedly back now, so I'm guessing he'll play pretty soon. Robbie Ftorek also said in one of the local papers here that Mogilny played hurt in the game he played last Friday, which might explain some of his poor play (and he honestly has not played very well.)

Don't worry about your English, it's fine.

TY for my english and the update about Alex. I can't see Albany from here in Quebec ;)

Tell me why he sign him without medicals if he was as bad shape as you think ???

Anyway i'm done with this tread i got descent answers from peoples who dont simply hate him.



well i do understand that this was a very disrespectful thing to do but again, Lou has balls. he is always's a team first guy. we can pretty much leave it as mogilny just wasn't "working out" with us. anyways, glad to have you on board.