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Predatore 12-30-2005, 07:23 AM http://www.3dflags.com/media/icon/classic/u/3dflagsdotcom_usa_2fawm.gif vs. http://3dflags.com/media/icon/classic/s/3dflagsdotcom_switz_2fawm.gif
Game start: 4PM PST | 7PM ET | 01.00 CET
Group: A
Location: Vancouver
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go kim johnsson 514 12-30-2005, 07:35 AM 4-2 Usa
insider 12-30-2005, 09:16 AM 4-2 Usa
No way
Not enough scoring. Canada's better in their own zone then the US, and the US are better offensivly. I say something like 7-4/7-5
barrytrotzsneck 12-30-2005, 12:03 PM wish we didn't have to play a game on the day before the Canada game, but at least it's an early game.
Hope to see Schneider in net today, and hope to see more discipline\better effort than against Finland.
Shoalzie 12-30-2005, 12:58 PM The Swiss will keep it close. 5-3, Team USA...that Finland game hopefully was a wake up call.
Steadfast 12-30-2005, 01:01 PM 6-1 Usa
swisdan 12-30-2005, 02:05 PM USA - Switzerland 3-2
Rabid Ranger 12-30-2005, 02:06 PM This is where having Walt Kyle over Scott Sandelin should be a big advantage. Having a day off to reflect on an uneven game against Finland should lead to a big improvement in all around effort against a plucky Swiss team. I look for a strong effort all the way around. 7-2 U.S.
GoingGoingGagner 12-30-2005, 02:26 PM 4-3 Swiss. We need one big upset in this Pool.
abe jr 12-30-2005, 02:33 PM 5-3 Usa
canucksfan 12-30-2005, 02:35 PM 7-3 Usa
shaner89 12-30-2005, 02:50 PM 6-2 usa
if the reffing is not helter skelter(i have no idea what the score could be then)I'll go with 5-2 U.S.
nspeen 12-30-2005, 03:37 PM 6-3 Usa
Tritsche 12-30-2005, 05:44 PM 6:3 USA :cry:
2 Goals SPRUNGER :handclap:
1 Diaz
1 Kessel
1 Bourque
2 Schremp
1 Ryan
1 Mueller
insider 12-30-2005, 05:47 PM anyone have a radio broadcast?
Jag68Sid87 12-30-2005, 05:52 PM 8-4 Usa
swisdan 12-30-2005, 06:45 PM anyone have a radio broadcast?
http://www.usahockey.com/
you can see
live, via audiocast in red
Simagin 12-30-2005, 06:45 PM 3-3
El_Scoobo 12-30-2005, 06:48 PM 5-1 for the U.S.
swisdan 12-30-2005, 07:12 PM Berra and Schneider play tonight.
I would have prefered Genoni between the pipes for Switzerland.
FiNsKa 12-30-2005, 07:20 PM 7-1 Us.
St.Louis sports fan 12-30-2005, 07:28 PM Walt Kyle has got to put Oshie with someone who can finish. Gerbe ghas been set up by him with numerous glorious scoring chances infront and nothing.......
Randall Graves* 12-30-2005, 07:31 PM Walt Kyle has got to put Oshie with someone who can finish. Gerbe ghas been set up by him with numerous glorious scoring chances infront and nothing.......
Schremp.
hockeydad15 12-30-2005, 07:34 PM Anybody listening? Just got home, who scored??
joe_shannon_1983* 12-30-2005, 07:37 PM When is the U.S.A. going to start pounding Switzerland?
Sounds like the Swiss are playing the trap which is a good plan
insider 12-30-2005, 07:46 PM swiss start the second on the pp
St.Louis sports fan 12-30-2005, 07:47 PM Schremp would be an ideal linemate for Oshie. It's not like it's been here and there. He's been all over the ice the entire tournamnet. Speed, stick-handling, and passing.....just nobody to finish Oshie's hard work.
swisdan 12-30-2005, 07:51 PM swiss start the second on the pp
I assume Jack "Rambo" Johnson made one of his speciality
canucksfan 12-30-2005, 08:02 PM How's the reffing been?
How's the reffing been?
Only 4 call as of right now
swisdan 12-30-2005, 08:09 PM Did Joggi deserve 10 minutes with his check?
canucksfan 12-30-2005, 08:10 PM Only 4 call as of right now
Is it the Czech reffing? He was good in the first game with Canada and Finland. I just hope that we get a good ref for tomorrow's big game. I would hate to lose or win a game where there are over 30 minor pentalies called.
St.Louis sports fan 12-30-2005, 08:11 PM Kessel's been all over, but he's going to have to finish off some of his rushes. He hit the post and he's been dangerous all game....he's gotta breakout before the Canada game.
FearTheFlyers 12-30-2005, 08:13 PM Ryan with another goal. Man he sucks.
swisdan 12-30-2005, 08:19 PM Kessel's been all over, but he's going to have to finish off some of his rushes. He hit the post and he's been dangerous all game....he's gotta breakout before the Canada game.
With this team, the danger comes from anywhere. It's a amazing team that the USA has got. The real favorit with this line-up....
But it's a poor year for the Switzerland team. But they are fighting with their great hearts and a good goaltender (in front: only Sprunger an Diaz are in the same level that USA's). I think it's not enough for beating this great USA.
Rounder 12-30-2005, 08:24 PM Ryan with another goal. Man he sucks.
Hard to believe huh, i full strength shift in the first period, one goal, maybe he earned a shift or 2 in the second
Randall Graves* 12-30-2005, 08:50 PM Ryan with another goal. Man he sucks.
Yeah maybe he'll earn more time on the bench
St.Louis sports fan 12-30-2005, 08:52 PM Gotta score here on the pp boys. Put Oshie out there with Schremp and Ryan. Get off of Bourque's jock.
BleedBlue44 12-30-2005, 09:01 PM the Swiss scores... 2-1 USA
joe_shannon_1983* 12-30-2005, 09:03 PM What is it about the Swiss that causes 'elite' teams to forget how to play hockey?
Is the Swiss team getting their women to tire out other teams before games?
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:04 PM Yes! Good job Blum!
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:06 PM What is it about the Swiss that causes 'elite' teams to forget how to play hockey?
Is the Swiss team getting their women to tire out other teams before games?
It's simple, the swiss bother a lot his opponents. It's hard to play vs a defensive team.
BleedBlue44 12-30-2005, 09:10 PM Swiss tie it at 2... son of a :madfire:
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:10 PM Yessssssss!!!!
2-2
Radulov for Czar* 12-30-2005, 09:11 PM how much time left?
MomentsofSanity 12-30-2005, 09:11 PM Driving me nuts that I can't watch this game to see if the U.S is playing that badly, the Swiss that strong of if it's just the ref's (again) guiding these games..... :cry:
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:12 PM how much time left?
5 min
insider 12-30-2005, 09:18 PM :amazed:
YEEEESSSSSS
insider 12-30-2005, 09:18 PM delay of game??? what???
joe_shannon_1983* 12-30-2005, 09:19 PM :amazed:
YEEEESSSSSS
What happened?
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:20 PM one minute pp USA
Radulov for Czar* 12-30-2005, 09:20 PM a tie...
insider 12-30-2005, 09:20 PM 2-2
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:20 PM it's over!
i'm proud to be swiss!!!! ;)
Skroob* 12-30-2005, 09:21 PM it's over!
i'm proud to be swiss!!!! ;)
yeah, i have to give it to ya, you got some great cheese products.
insider 12-30-2005, 09:22 PM Is it really over? the IIHF has it still in action
VladNYC 12-30-2005, 09:23 PM The swiss impress me every time they play! Gave canada a run for their money yesterday, now this tongiht. Goood Jorrrrrbbbb! :handclap:
insider 12-30-2005, 09:23 PM I'm proud of my heritage too :handclap:
insider 12-30-2005, 09:25 PM With this team, the danger comes from anywhere. It's a amazing team that the USA has got. The real favorit with this line-up....
But it's a poor year for the Switzerland team. But they are fighting with their great hearts and a good goaltender (in front: only Sprunger an Diaz are in the same level that USA's). I think it's not enough for beating this great USA.
Thank god its a poor year ;)
Watch out FINLAND!
ZombieMatt 12-30-2005, 09:26 PM I haven't read what's been said on here, but before people come crashing down on the Americans, the Swiss are a good team that played a fantastic game and had the benefit of a call or two their way.
GoingGoingGagner 12-30-2005, 09:26 PM Hey Walt Kyle, how's your goal differential now? Useless? That's what I thought.
WOOOO SWITZERLAND!
Randall Graves* 12-30-2005, 09:28 PM wow absolutely pathetic to show up like this after last game, who was on the ice most of the time for us?
jcorb58 12-30-2005, 09:39 PM I noticed in the box score that JJ had taken 3 aggression penalties. Last yr it was said he was left off the team because they figured he would take bad penalties. Before you all jump on me for this let me add i really like JJ and have him in a hockey pool. I am not putting him down because i never seen the penalties to know if they were deserved or bad calls. His play might be more suited for the pros then the world jrs.
AugerLovesBurrows 12-30-2005, 09:44 PM The game tied :amazed:
yasdnil9 12-30-2005, 09:44 PM I haven't read what's been said on here, but before people come crashing down on the Americans, the Swiss are a good team that played a fantastic game and had the benefit of a call or two their way.
Absolutely right. I don't think anyone has the right to bash the Americans after this game. Even Canada was lucky to win their game against the Swiss 4-3. Switzerland has a talented hockey team this year, and I think that the "elite" teams have taken them for granted.
Chrisd 12-30-2005, 09:45 PM who looks good on the swiss team? what players..
jcorb58 12-30-2005, 09:47 PM I haven't read what's been said on here, but before people come crashing down on the Americans, the Swiss are a good team that played a fantastic game and had the benefit of a call or two their way.
The Swiss are better then people expected. I am just glad even the Americans had fits with them also. I was starting to doubt Canada had any goal scorers this yr. I was wondering how badly the Americans were going to beat us tomorrow if we had so much trouble with the Swiss. Now it looks like it will be a really good game. I hope the refs are consistant and let the boys decide the game. BTW seen the goal by Kessel i think against Norway. What a f...in goal ...this kid has some sweet moves.
swisdan 12-30-2005, 09:49 PM It's strange, i know all this players. And seriously, the former national teams (2004 or 2003) was most talented. I have some trouble with this team before the tournament... Yes it's strange for me...
Switzerland is 8th nation in world ranking, it is not a surprise if we can make good games...
jcorb58 12-30-2005, 09:50 PM who looks good on the swiss team? what players..
The goalie and Sprunger
Kinbote 12-30-2005, 09:54 PM The ref was totally one-sided, he gave the Swiss every opportunity to come back in this gamer. Brutal calls to put the US down 2 players twice in the 3rd. :shakehead
Le Golie 12-30-2005, 09:56 PM I wasn't able to watch last year's tourney, but I hope the US fans didn't do this to team Canada.
I was there. There were waaaaay more Canadian fans in the building than Americans. Probably at least 8-1 ratio during every Team Canada game.
Tritsche 12-30-2005, 10:01 PM who looks good on the swiss team? what players..
Sprunger definitively, also Diaz, Joggi and Berra are not bad at all.
Chrisd 12-30-2005, 10:10 PM does sprunger have a legit shot at reaching the NHL and being adequate?
El_Scoobo 12-30-2005, 10:25 PM This should quiet a bunch of the "what's wrong with Canada stuff".
Credit to the Swiss. They played into the "underdog" role very well and have played a very strong tournament. Good for them.
canucksfan 12-30-2005, 10:31 PM I was starting to worry a bit about team Canada. If the USA really beat Switerzland I thought that Canada would have a difficult time beating the Americans. I still however, think that Canada will be the underdog going into tomorrow's game. A couple of questions about tonight's game. First, how did the Americans play and second how was the ref?
ZombieMatt 12-30-2005, 10:35 PM I was starting to worry a bit about team Canada. If the USA really beat Switerzland I thought that Canada would have a difficult time beating the Americans. I still however, think that Canada will be the underdog going into tomorrow's game. A couple of questions about tonight's game. First, how did the Americans play and second how was the ref?
This was a tie game because the Swiss played well enough to tie it. The Americans did not play atrociously. They may not have played to their best, but this was not an American team that can come out and say "we stunk out there."
The officiating in the first two periods was bang on. The third period it was a little shaky, but still nothing even beginning to compare to last night. Mostly the questionnable penalties were the aggression calls that there always are in these type of events.
Tomorrow's game should be the best game of the round robin, as long as the referee lets both teams knock the hell out of each other out there.
Rabid Ranger 12-30-2005, 10:53 PM I didn't watch the game (just listened) so my viewpoint is a bit limited, but first of all, full marks to the Swiss. They played Canada very tight, and did the same with the U.S. The U.S. team didn't capitalize on the momentum created by scoring the first two goals, and Switzerland took advantage, along with some key power play opportunities. It didn't sound like the U.S. played poorly, as a matter-of-fact the penalty killing and goaltending was very good. The offense was snuffed out, and that's a bit of a surprise to me. Should be a very even match-up again't Canada tomorrow. At this point, I think Canada deserves the edge, because I'm not sure the U.S. will bring complete effort. We'll see.
Macman 12-30-2005, 10:54 PM People need to grow up and get a life. Of course, the Canadian fans were cheering the Swiss. We want first in the division and a bye into the semis and the Americans are the biggest obstacle to getting it.
onice 12-30-2005, 11:04 PM I didn't watch the game (just listened) so my viewpoint is a bit limited, but first of all, full marks to the Swiss. They played Canada very tight, and did the same with the U.S. The U.S. team didn't capitalize on the momentum created by scoring the first two goals, and Switzerland took advantage, along with some key power play opportunities. It didn't sound like the U.S. played poorly, as a matter-of-fact the penalty killing and goaltending was very good. The offense was snuffed out, and that's a bit of a surprise to me. Should be a very even match-up again't Canada tomorrow. At this point, I think Canada deserves the edge, because I'm not sure the U.S. will bring complete effort. We'll see.
Actually, I disagree. This tie is the best thing for the US (and the worst thing for Canada). I think the Americans are gonna come out angry tomorrow. My feeling is that this game was a wake up call for the Americans. Team Canada will have to be nearly perfect to just tie.
The tie with the Swiss was the worst thing that could happen to Canada but I'm hoping for great hockey tomorrow.
May the best team win. :cheers:
gobolt7 12-30-2005, 11:20 PM Any more off topic or political post in this thread will result in warning points.
naihlflames 12-30-2005, 11:20 PM Actually, I disagree. This tie is the best thing for the US (and the worst thing for Canada). I think the Americans are gonna come out angry tomorrow. My feeling is that this game was a wake up call for the Americans. Team Canada will have to be nearly perfect to just tie.
The tie with the Swiss was the worst thing that could happen to Canada but I'm hoping for great hockey tomorrow.
May the best team win. :cheers:
If the US $ucks chant from the end of the game does not fire up the US squad for tomorrow, nothing will. I just hope the refs let the two teams play (was the call that put us 2 men down and gave the Swiss the tieing goal a good or cheap call?). Anyway, may the best team win tomorrow.
St.Louis sports fan 12-30-2005, 11:26 PM The Canadian posters' whole argument about rooting against the US is garbage plain and simple. I'm pretty much a hockey fanatic. I watch every Blues game and any other hockey I can get my hands on. I have Canadian friends that tape the World Jrs. for me year to year so I can watch the games and no matter what pool the Canadians are in I root for them except against the US. I don't think I'm better than Canadians thus my team and my team only should win. That's BS. I own a team Canada Sakic jersey and several team Canada sweatshirts and t-shirts as well, but I gotta say that as a fan base you guys are Busch-league all the way... No class and no respect for your opponent. My original post was to state that as an American player the way the fans are treating them they should've been fired up to play and hope they come to play tomorrow night. Congrats to the Swiss for a good game. Good luck tomorrow for whomever you root for.
Le Golie 12-30-2005, 11:30 PM you guys are Busch-league all the way....
Is that a beer?
Bloggins 12-31-2005, 12:38 AM Wow, congrats to the Swiss team. Definately came from behind in this tournament and showed real grit. :clap:
Bryanbryoil 12-31-2005, 12:42 AM Truth be told out-side of each teams 1st game, Canada and the US have left a lot to be desired IMO. Both are coming off of 2 non-spectacular games, and hopefully this game won't be a dud and it will be more like the 2 best teams playing against each-other and hating to lose. This has got to have team Russia licking their chops in the hopes that neither of these 2 are as strong as they've been hyped to be.
thespeckledkiwi 12-31-2005, 12:56 AM So Sprunger had a good game? Yay! He has the size to be in the NHL...He had a poor outing last year too...
Boomhower 12-31-2005, 01:03 AM (was the call that put us 2 men down and gave the Swiss the tieing goal a good or cheap call?).
I just saw the highlights, if the Jack Johnson cross-check was the call that put the US two men down than it was a very obvious call no matter the situation. Johnson nearly took the guys head off.
If the Wheeler trip put them two men down, than I couldn't say, b/c they didn't show it....
Alter Haudegen 12-31-2005, 01:22 AM I just saw the highlights, if the Jack Johnson cross-check was the call that put the US two men down than it was a very obvious call no matter the situation. Johnson nearly took the guys head off.
If the Wheeler trip put them two men down, than I couldn't say, b/c they didn't show it....
It was the Johnson call that put them two men down, a little over a minute into Wheelers penalty.
Slitty 12-31-2005, 02:26 AM Does this effect USA's general status of co-favourites or according to Americans the lone favourites? I know exhibition doesn't count, but Russia easily handled that Swiss team 5-0 in their second exhibition game.
Randall Graves* 12-31-2005, 02:47 AM They were trapping, if you do it right you can make up the talent gap(see NHL 2 years ago)
Randall Graves* 12-31-2005, 02:50 AM to anyone that was there, what was the ice time situation? There was no overplaying of the role players and watching the ice time of kessel, schremp, ryan, johnson(x2) type thing going on was there?
I have to say that I too am bothered by the Canadian fans treatment of the US team. Yes, we're favored and we're an obstacle to you this year but you've got a little more on your agenda when your arena explodes with cheers for a Norway goal to their deficit to 7 (or whatever). That isn't just cheering for an outcome that will favor your team, that's something else altogether.
I love Canada and love visiting it (I try to get up there a few times a year) but you guys need to calm down. We all know how you feel about hockey. No other country comes close when it comes to how much the sport is woven into the culture of a country nor will another country ever approach the depth Canada has at its disposal when choosing a national team. Cheering that lustily against teenagers? I don't know. I might even give it to you for the tight games with Finland and the Swiss but in a blowout?
Last year is tough to compare because most of the crowds for most games were Canadian anyway, but for what it's worth you heard no raucous cheers for Canadas opponents in ND. Maybe it's because no one was ever in a game against them but still.
I can not put in to words how much I want to win tomorrow and win the whole thing on Canadian soil (don't we owe you for 02 and 05?), but may the best squad win.
Greg7 12-31-2005, 03:38 AM My comments from tonight's game:
Switzerland was excellent. They played the USA superbly and really choked their offense. The USA wasn't great, but they certainly can't claim they played terribly or anything like that. A few undisciplined penalties hurt them, but more importantly their difficulties getting through the neutral zone and gaining the offensive zone really kept them from sustaining a lot of pressure. I thought they probably should have played more dump and chase instead of constantly trying to carry it through the Swiss defense, who were doing a good job of angling and taking away time and space from the American forwards. I don't care what people say about the trap, when it's played well and players take away passing lanes and take good angles it can be a thing of beauty.
The officiating tonight was on a completely different level than it has been in the past, and it made for a way better game. I thought whoever it was tonight (didn't catch his name at the start of the game) did an outstanding job for the most part, and although you might be able to complain about the crosschecking call Johnson got to put the Americans down 5 on 3 late and allowed the Swiss to tie it up, ultimately it was a stupid thing for Johnson to do and he probably deserved it. Maybe I would have let it go as it was in front of the net and it was a very harmful time and situation to call it, but in the end he smoked a guy after the play, and that's probably going to be a penalty. Overall I thought the guy did a great job.
Both goaltenders were for the most part very sharp, but both allowed a goal that they probably shouldn't have. Berra let a very soft rebound out that he thought he had allowing Ryan to poke the loose puck in, and Schnieder got beat somehow on his near post from right on the goal line. Both guys were very solid other than that and made some very good saves.
On the Swiss, I thought the top defense pairing of Blum and Diaz were fantastic, and Joggi had a good game. The Swiss' top line, Sprunger's line, (29 14 12 I think? I have all the lines written down but it I don't have it handy) were very good. Their PK was also quite good, and someone who I liked especially in that area was Kamloops Blazer Janick Steinmann.
For the Americans, no one stood out as playing really well today. I though Jack Johnson had a poor game by his standards, and took a few undisciplined penalties. Kessel created a couple of chances with his speed, but his line was for the most part not very effective. Paukovich's line was strong in the first period I thought, but after that I didn't think really any of the forwards were very good. Mueller in particular disappointed me a bit tonight offensively; he looked like he was handling a grenade, and just didn't show the skill that I know he has. He did however have a strong defensive game and I still don't think I've ever seen the guy lose a faceoff, here or in the WHL (Walt Kyle, if you read this, let Mueller take more faceoffs!). Once again tonight, Mueller Ryan and Wheeler split time on Schremp's wings. Mueller killed penalties and played some pp and es, Ryan was on the pp a bit, and Wheeler got most of his time even strength, and thankfully there was plenty of that tonight for once.
In general, I thought it was a great game: not sloppy like against Finland, solid defense, good goaltending, and thank goodness well officiated!
OilerNut 12-31-2005, 03:40 AM Just to let you guys know I was at both games at the Pacific Coliseum tonight and the fans were cheering against Finland in the Finland/Norway game when they were winning 7-0, and exploded when Norway scored. So it isn't just the americans that people are against.
Just to let you guys know I was at both games at the Pacific Coliseum tonight and the fans were cheering against Finland in the Finland/Norway game when they were winning 7-0, and exploded when Norway scored. So it isn't just the americans that people are against.
Good to know. That pretty much answers that pointless debate over the booing/cheering.
Simagin 12-31-2005, 05:07 AM :clap: baaaammmm
:D
Randall Graves* 12-31-2005, 05:38 AM I have to say that I too am bothered by the Canadian fans treatment of the US team. Yes, we're favored and we're an obstacle to you this year but you've got a little more on your agenda when your arena explodes with cheers for a Norway goal to their deficit to 7 (or whatever). That isn't just cheering for an outcome that will favor your team, that's something else altogether.
I love Canada and love visiting it (I try to get up there a few times a year) but you guys need to calm down. We all know how you feel about hockey. No other country comes close when it comes to how much the sport is woven into the culture of a country nor will another country ever approach the depth Canada has at its disposal when choosing a national team. Cheering that lustily against teenagers? I don't know. I might even give it to you for the tight games with Finland and the Swiss but in a blowout?
Last year is tough to compare because most of the crowds for most games were Canadian anyway, but for what it's worth you heard no raucous cheers for Canadas opponents in ND. Maybe it's because no one was ever in a game against them but still.
I can not put in to words how much I want to win tomorrow and win the whole thing on Canadian soil (don't we owe you for 02 and 05?), but may the best squad win.
People are forgetting these are basically kids.
sbutler66 12-31-2005, 05:47 AM People in BC can cheer whoever they want in a game that doesn't involve their team. Why is everyone so worried about trying to find a reason?
Hackett 12-31-2005, 05:51 AM I have to say that I too am bothered by the Canadian fans treatment of the US team. Yes, we're favored and we're an obstacle to you this year but you've got a little more on your agenda when your arena explodes with cheers for a Norway goal to their deficit to 7 (or whatever). That isn't just cheering for an outcome that will favor your team, that's something else altogether.
I love Canada and love visiting it (I try to get up there a few times a year) but you guys need to calm down. We all know how you feel about hockey. No other country comes close when it comes to how much the sport is woven into the culture of a country nor will another country ever approach the depth Canada has at its disposal when choosing a national team. Cheering that lustily against teenagers? I don't know. I might even give it to you for the tight games with Finland and the Swiss but in a blowout?
Last year is tough to compare because most of the crowds for most games were Canadian anyway, but for what it's worth you heard no raucous cheers for Canadas opponents in ND. Maybe it's because no one was ever in a game against them but still.
I can not put in to words how much I want to win tomorrow and win the whole thing on Canadian soil (don't we owe you for 02 and 05?), but may the best squad win.
I think people love cheering for the underdogs. There's not much else to it. Yes, these kids are teenagers but its not like we are killing anyone. They can handle it. Be prepared for a hostile crowd tommorow night. This Canada/US game has been really hyped up for weeks now around these parts.
People are forgetting these are basically kids.
Most of the players are 18 and 19 years old. If you're old enough to join the military, or vote, you're old enough to deal with a little booing.
I made some comments and posted some pictures form this game here (http://www.internationalhockeygang.org/forum/showthread.php?p=32073&posted=1#post32073)
I was also lucky enough to speak Bob Nicholson after this game! :handclap: I summarized that conversation in the same link above.
SChan* 12-31-2005, 07:36 AM I don't understand why so many complain on the canadians? This is a competition, and a loss to US might favor canada later in their tournament. They have to think on their own team. This is not a love relationship.
phaneuf_fan_3 12-31-2005, 11:17 AM I have to say that I too am bothered by the Canadian fans treatment of the US team. Yes, we're favored and we're an obstacle to you this year but you've got a little more on your agenda when your arena explodes with cheers for a Norway goal to their deficit to 7 (or whatever). That isn't just cheering for an outcome that will favor your team, that's something else altogether.
I love Canada and love visiting it (I try to get up there a few times a year) but you guys need to calm down. We all know how you feel about hockey. No other country comes close when it comes to how much the sport is woven into the culture of a country nor will another country ever approach the depth Canada has at its disposal when choosing a national team. Cheering that lustily against teenagers? I don't know. I might even give it to you for the tight games with Finland and the Swiss but in a blowout?
Last year is tough to compare because most of the crowds for most games were Canadian anyway, but for what it's worth you heard no raucous cheers for Canadas opponents in ND. Maybe it's because no one was ever in a game against them but still.
I can not put in to words how much I want to win tomorrow and win the whole thing on Canadian soil (don't we owe you for 02 and 05?), but may the best squad win.
You cant even possibly begin to compare last year, I was at the games last year, there were more Canadian fans in every game than American fans, in any game Canada was playing the fans were like 9:1 Canadian.
There was booing last year in Grand Forks though, just not loudly and not as much because there were not nearly the amount of American fans.
I dont think there is anything wrong with fans cheering for whoever they want, everyone has their own opinion, I am as passionate of a fan as any other fan ive ever met and I will cheer hard for whichever team I want to win....and I believe that is my right as much as it is anyone else's.
L3DZ3P 12-31-2005, 11:26 AM Does this effect USA's general status of co-favourites or according to Americans the lone favourites? I know exhibition doesn't count, but Russia easily handled that Swiss team 5-0 in their second exhibition game.
Yep and the canadians easily handled the russian 8-1 :sarcasm:
insider 12-31-2005, 11:47 AM Just to let you guys know I was at both games at the Pacific Coliseum tonight and the fans were cheering against Finland in the Finland/Norway game when they were winning 7-0, and exploded when Norway scored. So it isn't just the americans that people are against.
Not really... people just love cheering for the Norwegians. It was the same with Yukon at the Canada Games...
naihlflames 12-31-2005, 12:17 PM People in BC can cheer whoever they want in a game that doesn't involve their team. Why is everyone so worried about trying to find a reason?
Because chanting US $ucks crossed the line.
sbutler66 12-31-2005, 12:32 PM Because chanting US $ucks crossed the line.
I don't see the big fuss when US fans cheer {enter ANY team name here} sucks, it never seems to cross the line. Why do american fans feel the need to be so victimised. Two big rivals, why shouldn't they try and put your team off. And maybe just maybe they don't like americans?! Shock horror.
sbutler66 12-31-2005, 12:36 PM I made some comments and posted some pictures form this game here (http://www.internationalhockeygang.org/forum/showthread.php?p=32073&posted=1#post32073)
I was also lucky enough to speak Bob Nicholson after this game! :handclap: I summarized that conversation in the same link above.
Great post, thanks for sharing, love the pictures. The shot and caption of the opening faceoff - classic!!
Well,good job by the Swiss,they are no pushover and have'nt been for some time.As for the American squad they have some soul-searching to do.I expect them to play Canada sharp tonight in what should be a good game and am looking forward to it.
On another note it's really sad to see some fans still going on about the Booing the American team is getting from Canadian fans here.I think Canadian posters could have been all over you after this game and they sure have'nt been so i don't see why that stuff is still being poo-pooed about,our posters here have'nt been on your case about tying Switzerland so this stuff about the booing is old and not very reasonable and you are better then that.Canada has been booed many times in the international game by the crowd,it's the price of success guys,that's the way it goes.If you were'nt any good nobody would care,we KNOW,we've been dealing with the "out to get us stuff" in international hockey for a long time.I know your fans had great expectations going into this tournament and you still should have,it's still a good team with a lot of weapons so fret not.The complaining about the booing IMO,has little to to do with the fact Canadian fans are booing your players(honestly,they can boo whoever they want,it's not a big deal) and more to do with the fact you are so far dissapointed with the results of your team IMO.This is not a time to keep going on about inconsequential stuff like that,your team should use it as motivation,good teams would and it's up to them to do it.
Let's drop that stuff and concentrate on the games themselves because that issue is unimportant and deserves no further mention around here.You have to get behind your team not worry about what the fans are doing,they are not hurting them,they are booing them,big deal.They have heard booing in every NCAA and CHL rink and every damn minor hockey rink they've ever played in before and this should be old hat.It is to our guys for sure.
It's international hockey guys and you're now one of the big boys having success........welcome to the show!!!
Team_Spirit 12-31-2005, 05:01 PM I made some comments and posted some pictures form this game here (http://www.internationalhockeygang.org/forum/showthread.php?p=32073&posted=1#post32073)
I was also lucky enough to speak Bob Nicholson after this game! :handclap: I summarized that conversation in the same link above.
nice pictures , thanks !
MURedHawk 12-31-2005, 06:23 PM Because chanting US $ucks crossed the line.
Don't worry man! I have it all taken care of. Back in 1994 I heard a Canadian Boo an American and I swore from that day on that no Canadian team will ever hoist the Stanley Cup.
Slitty 01-02-2006, 01:01 AM Yep and the canadians easily handled the russian 8-1
EXACTLY!!!
If a team as crappy as the Russian beat Switzerland 5-0 while USA only manages a tie... the Americans have something to worry about! If Russia didnt lose to Canada and was actually good it would be a little easier to dismiss.
barrytrotzsneck 01-02-2006, 05:26 AM EXACTLY!!!
If a team as crappy as the Russian beat Switzerland 5-0 while USA only manages a tie... the Americans have something to worry about! If Russia didnt lose to Canada and was actually good it would be a little easier to dismiss.
I hope you're joking. Russia was without their best player(easily the best player in the tournament) and mailed in the game to begin with. Neither the USA or Canada will be so lucky a second time.
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