WJC Group A: Dec 28 GDT - USA vs. Finland

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Game start: 8PM PST | 11PM ET | 05.00 CET
Group: A
Location: Vancouver

Online coverage (rosters, stats etc.) (http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_06/output/w20/hydra.iihf.com/IIHF_Core/jsp/content/web_output/index.jsp@compId=55)


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10-1 Usa

Finland 3 -------------------------------------------------------- US. 2

5:3 Usa

The United State first real test in the tournament. I say 5-2 US

10-1 Usa


This isn't Norway.

This isn't Norway.

Let them think this is another 10-1....they are in for a surprise :D

Edit: Removed sentence. No harm really, but generalisations rarely lead to good things. Especially in potentially heated discussions as this one.

4-1 Usa

I think Ramo is going to surprise some people tonight. ;)

5-3 USA. Ramo looks amazing but gets left out to dry.

7-2 Usa.

I can't believe Finland has a chance in this game. But its not going to be a blow out. Maybe something like 5-2 or 4-2 for USA.

Hard to say, 'cos it depends on how we can get the team back up. I'd say 5-2 to the US, but of course hoping for better

7:2 Usa...

6-2 Usa. The best Usa u20 team against a fairly average Finnish team. The americans have a sick blueline and very deep forward corp. My heart is with Finland and ill be rooting for them but if i had to bet , 6-2 would be a very rational one.

I think Ramo is going to surprise some people tonight. ;)
I hope he's in net, especially since I think this is being shown on CI tomorrow.

4-3 Finland

7-3, Team USA...Kessel with a 4-point game.

3-2 Finland :D

6-2 Usa

i think Finland is going to play better than against Canada, atleast i hope so :)

A tougher test than Norway for sure, but I still see the U.S. prevailing. I'll go 6-3 U.S. Three keys for the U.S:

1) Stay disciplined
2) Keep Cory Schneider focused
3) Exploit PP opportunities

3-2 Finland

5-2 USA.

The score will be 2-2 after two periods, and then Kessel starts rocking. :teach:

This game will be shown in the U.S. on Center Ice Thursday at 1pm

:) 7-1

Is Ramo starting for sure? Kind of unfair to take out Rask after being hung out to dry against Canada, and Rask was looking real good in the 3rd period of that game.

:) 7-1

Yikes! I can see the Finns taking this game, but not by 7-1 :D

i've been waiting to see Kessel play and Perttu is going to score in this game!

I expect at least a 5 goal spread for the States in this game too.Finland is of course much tougher then Norway but they showed some areas that can't help but be a concern,especially with an offensively loaded team like the Americans.The Finns don't have the most effective or talented d-men at all and that does'nt bode well against the team they'll face at all.They really gave up against Canada the other night when they went down 2-0................took the life right out of them.They will need to up their intensity and commitment to make a game with the U.S today. I do expect a win by about 4-5 goals for the americans today.But i'm willing to have Finland come out with their best effort and surprise me though.Still,even if that happens.................i don't think it could be enough for them to actually beat the States today

Is Ramo starting for sure? Kind of unfair to take out Rask after being hung out to dry against Canada, and Rask was looking real good in the 3rd period of that game.

Ramo and Rask were 1a/1b heading in to the tournament and from what I've read on this board Rask looked shaky in net and didn't have any rebound control. I'm not sure if it's official Ramo is starting, but he deserves a shot after Rask was subpar against Canada.

What channel on DirecTV Center Ice is the game on?

What channel on DirecTV Center Ice is the game on?

Tomorow on Game 2 I believe. 1:00 pm et

Wed, December 28th -- for some reason I can't find the channel for it on DirecTV Center Ice, what am i doing wrong?

Is this part of a free preview on Center Ice or does it come with the subscription?

Is there anywhere online that I can see this game?

Any other channels in canada that will be airing this game?
I noticed that tsn is re-playing the game at 1pmET tomorrow.

Anyhelp would be appreciated!

Thanks :rant:

Who is starting for Finland?
If Rask, 8-3 US victory.
If Ramo, 4-3 Finland.

I said before the games that Rämö will surprise a lot of people and I am hoping today he starts doing so. Keeping this game even moderately close would be good. But if we get some offense, Finland can win this game too.

3-2 for Finland.

I said before the games that Rämö will surprise a lot of people and I am hoping today he starts doing so. Keeping this game even moderately close would be good. But if we get some offense, Finland can win this game too.

3-2 for Finland.
im not saying finland cant win. but there is NO way you hold us to 2 goals. you are gonna have to score 5+ to beat the americans. and i dont see that happening. im hoping for a good game though, as the players need to play in a competitive game before they play a really good team later on. it wont be good if their first difficult situation is against a team like canada

Wed, December 28th -- for some reason I can't find the channel for it on DirecTV Center Ice, what am i doing wrong?

Dont' worry it will show up. I have the same issue, I scroll to see when its on the next day and there is not mention of it.

Then game time strikes and it's on.


Also turn to any channel of Center Ice tomorow and it will have it their main list.

But for some reason on the actual channel it doesn't have any mention of the game.


So it will be on tomorow for sure, but it's not on the listing for the day ahead.

7-3 Usa

6-3 Usa

7-3 US. The US is loaded and Finland just can't match. I would think that Ramo is going to get the start but it still won't get it done.

Go USA!!!

btw, how's tukonen doing?

7-2

Kessel with 2 goals 3 assists
Bourque 2 goals 2 assists
Schremp 3 goals
E Johnson 4 assists

Rask or Ramo pulled in the 2nd

A fairly even game, but I doubt Finland has the depth this year to win .. 4-1 or 5-2 USA. Especially the D sucks this year. But those of you expecting a rout are going to be very suprised. Korpikoski and Lindgren score for Finland.

Wed, December 28th -- for some reason I can't find the channel for it on DirecTV Center Ice, what am i doing wrong?

Try channel 540. That's what it is on on Dish Network and I think the CI channel numbers are the same on both.

Try channel 540. That's what it is on on Dish Network and I think the CI channel numbers are the same on both.

The DIRECTV CI channels are 764-770's

What's with Finland having a russian guy on their team? Leo Komarov i think is his name. Didn't he get kick out of the game last time? Sounds like an exciting guy. Too bad i haven't seen him play yet.

Game will depend on if the USA can capitalize on the many Penalties this game will have. I am rooting for Finland but my guess is 4:2 USA.

What's with Finland having a russian guy on their team? Leo Komarov i think is his name. Didn't he get kick out of the game last time? Sounds like an exciting guy. Too bad i haven't seen him play yet.

Game will depend on if the USA can capitalize on the many Penalties this game will have. I am rooting for Finland but my guess is 4:2 USA.

Actually Leo Komarov is orginally Estonian I think.. Anyway he plays a typically Finnish game; feisty, solid defensively, good wheels and medoicre hands.

Who is starting for Finland?
If Rask, 8-3 US victory.
If Ramo, 4-3 Finland.

USA 8 - Finland 3

Ramo starts in goal and lets in 6 goals in the 1st 2 periods ..Rask plays the 3rd after the goalie change

btw, how's tukonen doing?
Can anyone answer this?

7-2

Kessel with 2 goals 3 assists
Bourque 2 goals 2 assists
Schremp 3 goals
E Johnson 4 assists

Rask or Ramo pulled in the 2nd I just hope Schremp is played like he should be!!! By far the best player out there. Give him half the ice time Kessel and Bourque and see what happens, as far as that goes, give ME half their ice time and i'll score 5goals. Quit the POLITICS!!!!!!!!

7-0 USA

This is the best US junior team I've seen and I'll be cheering for them... at least untill the final game. ;)

4-1 USA. Ramo plays outstanding as USA outshoots Finland 45-25. USA is to highpowered for Finland to stop and I think this will be another pretty easy game for the US of A.

HockeyCanada.ca says in the game preview that Rask will most likely be in net. :dunno:

HockeyCanada.ca says in the game preview that Rask will most likely be in net. :dunno:
i've come not to trust them that much.They seem to be slow and sloppy on that website getting things up.I don't know who is in control and keeps care of the site but.............i'm underwhelmed so far.

I hope the USA beats Finland. With my minimal knowledge, I will guess a 4-2 victory.

Incidentally, I don't think the link to the IIHF boxscore/update page for the game works? I keep checking and refreshing it, but all I get is HTML code.

Any chance Bobby Ryan will see more icetime tonight? I think at some point he will have to be a factor. I just don't get a 2nd overall pick and top 3 OHL scorer as the 13th forward. Is he hurt or does Kyle think he has 12 better forwards?

Any chance Bobby Ryan will see more icetime tonight? I think at some point he will have to be a factor. I just don't get a 2nd overall pick and top 3 OHL scorer as the 13th forward. Is he hurt or does Kyle think he has 12 better forwards?

No, it's just the whole thing about Ryan going to play in the OHL.

I guess it's a controversy because he's from NJ, but the guy is too good to be sitting on the bench in a tournament showcasing young talent.

HockeyCanada.ca says in the game preview that Rask will most likely be in net. :dunno:
I hope not.

give it up. man, ...
you need to relax

I predict 7-3 USA, Schremp 2-2-4, Kessel 2-1-3, Ryan 2-1-3, J.Johnson 1-2-3 will be the scoring leaders.

No, it's just the whole thing about Ryan going to play in the OHL.

I guess it's a controversy because he's from NJ, but the guy is too good to be sitting on the bench in a tournament showcasing young talent.


Agreed. That was ridiculous.

I think that Finland is about to take the biggest beating of their lives in this game.

I think that Finland is about to take the biggest beating of their lives in this game.

I sure hope the US doesnt come to play like Canada did :biglaugh:

I sure hope the US doesnt come to play like Canada did :biglaugh:

ha ha your funny... :dunno: the ref slowed the game down like MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD it was like playing in mallasses

ha ha your funny... :dunno: the ref slowed the game down like MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD it was like playing in mallasses

I m not saying they didnt but the game was called both ways :biglaugh:

switzerland is creating some good players, Sprunger, Diaz, Blum and Berra or whatever the goalies name is. Some real good players. They played a trap defence.

switzerland is creating some good players, Sprunger, Diaz, Blum and Berra or whatever the goalies name is. Some real good players. They played a trap defence.

Ahh the trap :cry: kinda like the wild :shakehead

Ahh the trap :cry: kinda like the wild :shakehead


You know full well what would happen if Switzerland started pretending they were the 1984 Edmonton Oilers; they'd get the crap kicked out of them.

Expect undermanned teams to trap. If you are noticeably better than a team, you should beat them most of the time, regardless of what style they play.

Who is starting for Finland?
If Rask, 8-3 US victory.
If Ramo, 4-3 Finland.

With Ramo scoring the fourth goal.

You know full well what would happen if Switzerland started pretending they were the 1984 Edmonton Oilers; they'd get the crap kicked out of them.

Expect undermanned teams to trap. If you are noticeably better than a team, you should beat them most of the time, regardless of what style they play.

I agree its just a very very boring style of hockey to watch. But I guess if the team has to play the trap so be it :)

TSN was originally supposed to show this game at 11pm tonight according to the TV guide, but looks like they opted instead to show the Nashville Predators against the Vancouver Canucks.... BS I say. I would rather see the WJC in Toronto than a Canucks game..:shakehead

Almost time to get the show started :D

Any word on who is in net for Finland?

Link isn't up yet for the game.

Link isn't up yet for the game.

Yes it is I m just hearing some porn music so far

Yes it is I m just hearing some porn music so far

Post the link.

TSN HD is showing the junior game

Post the link.

www.usahockey.com

Rask in net

Sounds like we get Rask tonight

Thanks.

Frazee is net

Why the hell is Frazee starting...?

Uhhh... okay.

Lets go boys get it rollin

Off to the box :shakehead

Sweet. So it's going to be ******** with the penalties like the other game.

http://player.broadbandvideo.com/asxgen.asp?ShowOrClip=c&MediaType=a&MediaFolder=/bbv/&MediaServer=stream9.broadbandvideo.com&MediaId=45100&ClipEvents=

Sounded like a nice save by frazee on Tukonen.

Ramo is in net

Ramo in net for Finland.

Rask in net

Ramo in net for Finland.


Dont mind me while I try to figure this one out. :D

What is TSN's logic for not showing this game live? I mean, majority of people dont have HDTV's and can't recieve HD signal, so why make it an HD exclusive?

More people want to watch a live game than a repeat the next day @ noon....jeez

Dont mind me while I try to figure this one out. :D

Thats what they said first :)

1-0 Finland

This isn't Norway boys. :shakehead

:cry: Well we are gonna have to play from behind

Woooo!!! Goal!! 1-0 Finland!

Oshie draws a power play.

Maybe they watched the Canada game and they thought they would do the same thing.

who scored?

GOALLLLLL!!!!! KORPIDO sorry, hes a nyr prospect.

2 - 0 Finland

Korpikoski scores on a breakway :)

Dont mind me while I try to figure this one out. :D

Raskmo is in net for Finland

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/5647/raskmo8uy.jpg

goodness gracious!! 2-0 on a shorthanded goal by Korpikoski!!

awesome

while i want the US to win, i love that korpikoski scores one

Wake up, Team USA! :amazed:

Oshie draws another power play.

Poor defensive playes by both Schremp & Ryan led to both Finland goals.

Wake up, Team USA! :amazed:

Is that a Jeremy Roenick sound bite? :biglaugh:

it's still early...

2-0 eh?

Bobby Ryan ****ing sucks.

Wow the USA better get going. I am pretty sure they will come back though.

Goallllll

Goallllll!!!!

!!!

garbage goal to get on the board...good job

2 - 1 Finland

Gooooooaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

2-1, Fritche Scores!

See they are back in it already.

Bench Ryan. I hope he's benched for his boneheaded play. This'd be tied if the idiot knew how to stickhandle...

This game will be on NHL Center Ice tomorrow afternoon at 1pm...TIVO Lauri's goal

Fritche From Mueller and Schremp

Raskmo is in net for Finland

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/5647/raskmo8uy.jpg\

...no laughs? oh cummon now!

Finland is undiciplined tonight. Might be just bad reffing again, though...

Another USA Power Play.

Bobby Ryan ****ing sucks.

Why?

Why?

He single handedly caused the Finns second goal.

Bench his ***.

Why?

He turned the puck over on the PP which led to the shorty :shakehead

Go Finland go! How much time left in the first?

COMMON RYAN!

Goddamnit!

Stupid dumbass can't even play the puck right.

Wow....are we getting the calls. :eek:

Ramo playing very well so far.

Sounds like bad reffing again.

I want this to be a clean game. None of this bad reffing crap. If we win with 23984732 powerplays, I will be pissed.

the reffing seems a little one sided but then again I'm listning to the game not watching so I wonder whether it's finland making dumb decisions or bad reffing? and wow.. finland just got another poenalty which the commentators are saying should og been against the US...

Sounds like us passing is suspect.

USA will probably score soon.

Sounds like us passing is suspect.

Definately is. Ryan eff'd up a few times already with his passes. A few other missed passes by other players...

Ramo sounds great.

Ramo stops johnson and oshie.

The announcers are clueless.They said Rask was starting for Finland and didn't even notice it wasn't Rask until the first period had started :shakehead

Sounds like Ramo is really playing well?

Skille is all over the ice.

Sounds like Ramo is really playing well?

He's better than Rask.

I never liked Rask to begin with.

Finland powerplay.

Bonehead play by Wheeler.

FRAZEE!!!

(Even if I think he shouldn't have started...)

The Korpedo is playing great it seems.

big save on korpikoski

Lauri got robbed by Frazee

Actually Leo Komarov is orginally Estonian I think.. Anyway he plays a typically Finnish game; feisty, solid defensively, good wheels and medoicre hands.

Nah estonians dont have last names like that, they are closer to Finn last names. He must be an Ethnic Russian who lived in Estonia and moved to Finland as a kid.

The announcers are clueless.They said Rask was starting for Finland and didn't even notice it wasn't Rask until the first period had started :shakehead


Why the heck do they keep hyping up Bourque like he's some future superstar? :dunno:

Frazee comes up big again!

2-2

Goall Wheeler

BLAKE WHEELER!!!

That makes up for that crap penalty!

Yeah baby!

2-2!

Wheeler scores 2-2

Mueller gets his second assist of the night.

USA will probably score soon.
Told ya

Jeez, Kessels speed is amazing.

For those watching TSN (or in my case just listening to it), Chorney was not the captain of the gold medal winning US Under-18 team in the Czech Republic, as Miller said.

Powerplay for the US.

USA seems to be dominating right now...

Power Play USA.

lee 3-2

Brian Lee Baby!!!

3-2!!!

Goalll Leee

well there ya go

Wow, 3 straight goals.

Wow, 3 straight goals.


USA outshoots finland 19-1 after finland goes up 5-0 early.

first period over

God i missed all the goals wife had to use the comp :(

*** we gave up a shorthanded goal what happened?

*** we gave up a shorthanded goal what happened?

Ryan with a bad pass and Korpikoski broke in on a breakaway, beat frazee backhand.

*** we gave up a shorthanded goal what happened?

Ryan gave up the puck and Korpikoski roofed a backhander passed Frazee

Ryan with a bad pass and Korpikoski broke in on a breakaway, beat frazee backhand.

Sounds like Ryan is playing more tonight

Sounds like Ryan is playing more tonight

Ya, unfortunatley it seems. :shakehead

Sounds like Ryan is playing more tonight

Too bad he sucks.

Where's that Gagne dude now?

wow Ryan makes one mistake and everyone starts hating on him.

He is the second most talented player on this team, give him some ice time to show it.

Is Finland starting to back down?

second period starts

pp for finland

3-3

Ugh. Seitsonen.

3-3.

wow Ryan makes one mistake and everyone starts hating on him.

He is the second most talented player on this team, give him some ice time to show it.

Uhhhh, no he's not the 2nd most talented player on the team.

He's less talented than both of the Johnsons and Kessel.

Excellent. :handclap:

finland pp

sounds like korpikoski is creating some chances off big shots...

It's nice to see Flames prospect Seitsonen having a good tournemant so far.

they can't take these penalties against canada or russia..

they can't take these penalties against canada or russia..

No kidding this isnt good stay out of the box

How has the ref been? Has he been calling pentalies like crazy?

How has the ref been? Has he been calling pentalies like crazy?

Bunch of BS on both sides if you ask me. Too harsh on both teams.

Calling on the US like mad now.

Finland like mad earlier.

Bunch of BS on both sides if you ask me. Too harsh on both teams.

Calling on the US like mad now.

Finland like mad earlier.
It's just like the Canada and Switzerland game. They call too many damn pentalies and it ruins the flow of the game. Is it that same Russian that you guys had against Norway?

Bobby Ryan makes up for his **** play.

GOAL!

4-3!

goal US! ryan should buy kessell a beer.

Ryan from Kessel :handclap:

What a shootout. 7 goals already.

The Oshie line draws another penalty, Oshie has been a sparkplug for team USA

goal US! ryan should buy kessell a beer.
I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)

IIHF rules suck let these guys play the Canada game was the same way :shakehead

Uhhhh, no he's not the 2nd most talented player on the team.

He's less talented than both of the Johnsons and Kessel.

That's very much up for debate. Kessel was the player I was talking about as most talented. The Johnson's being more talented than Ryan is a tough comparison considering the Johnson's are D-men.

For now let's just say Ryan is the second most talented forward on the team.

I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)

Schremp could buy them all a beer. He is 19, which is the drinking age in Canada (where the tournament is being held).

I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)
They are in Canada, the legal age is 19.

I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)
ok how about a 'root beer'

I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)

Drinking age in BC is 19. :D

I'm pretty sure this is the under-20 tournament. As in...also under 21. ;)

He can get him a soda...

That ref is insane.

EDIT: Why does Aravirta hate Laakso? Why is he still playing him with Seppänen? Why is he playing Seppänen in the first place?

That's very much up for debate. Kessel was the player I was talking about as most talented. The Johnson's being more talented than Ryan is a tough comparison considering the Johnson's are D-men.

For now let's just say Ryan is the second most talented forward on the team.

Are u kidding me I really doubt that.

Drinking age in BC is 19. :D

Isn't Kessel 17? or 18?

Ryan is 18.

I can't seem to find a website that show box scores for the WJC games, can anyone help me?

Are u kidding me I really doubt that.

You doubt what?

Name a more naturally talented forward on team USA other than Kessel.

fins can't keep their sticks down.

That's very much up for debate. Kessel was the player I was talking about as most talented. The Johnson's being more talented than Ryan is a tough comparison considering the Johnson's are D-men.

For now let's just say Ryan is the second most talented forward on the team.

2nd most talented forward doesn't really help if he's playing like crap. Natural talent means a lot, but not with the way he's been playing outside his goal.

I can't seem to find a website that show box scores for the WJC games, can anyone help me?

http://www.iihf.com

They have game summaries...basically box scores.

I can't seem to find a website that show box scores for the WJC games, can anyone help me?

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_06/output/w20/hydra.iihf.com/IIHF_Core/jsp/content/web_output/index.jsp@compId=55

2nd most talented forward doesn't really help if he's playing like crap. Natural talent means a lot, but not with the way he's been playing outside his goal.

Maybe he is having a bad game. Ryan is a good kid I don't like to see him getting trashed on here for makign one mistake.

4 minute powerplay! Let's go!

Bobby Ryan makes up for his **** play.


You mean his non play because of some unknown reason other than Walt Kyle is mentally retarded.

Plkay him more and they'd be up by more than one against a mediocre team.

I can't seem to find a website that show box scores for the WJC games, can anyone help me?

http://www.iihf.com/hockey/tournam/tournaments.htm#

Then click on the U-20 WJC link. Then a new window will open. Then click on the game summary of your choice.

Maybe he is having a bad game. Ryan is a good kid I don't like to see him getting trashed on here for makign one mistake.

He's not getting trashed! He's getting called out for his bad play!!!

Still 4-3?

You mean his non play because of some unknown reason other than Walt Kyle is mentally retarded.

Plkay him more and they'd be up by more than one against a mediocre team.

Obviously you haven't been listening at ALL.

He directly caused the Finns second goal.

Ughhh Gerbe hits the post.

He's not getting trashed! He's getting called out for his bad play!!!
By you and you and you.

You don't like him because he went to the CHL, we get it. Stop crying and be thankful he's there or you'd be tied right now.

lol@canadians cheering for the fins.

the johnsons are spending too much time in the box tonight.

He's not getting trashed! He's getting called out for his bad play!!!

People say he sucks because of one bad play, and one bad game. If Kessel gives the puck away and the Fins score, will everyone say Kessel sucks?

By you and you and you.

You don't like him because he went to the CHL, we get it. Stop crying and be thankful he's there or you'd be tied right now.

Hahahahaha, okay.

I'm a big Ryan fan since he's from New Jersey and so am I. That's huge to me to see another New Jersian in the NHL outside of Mara and Dowd.

Way to assume and make yourself look reallllll smart.

People say he sucks because of one bad play, and one bad game. If Kessel gives the puck away and the Fins score, will everyone say Kessel sucks?

Well, he DOES suck tonight. I wasn't saying in general.

Well, he DOES suck tonight. I wasn't saying in general.
It's not just him, it seems like as a group they are off tonight.

Finland giving the U.S. all they can handle tonight. Not surprised, as they work very hard and are getting good goaltending. U.S. not capitalizing on all their chances either. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the U.S. dressing room and hear what Walt Kyle has to say. The U.S. is better than this. Full marks to the Finns though.

This is what you get when a swedish ref is doing a game with Finland playing, 2 of the US goals are direct results of EXTREMELY weak calls, former finnish U20 coach is commenting the game and even he (extremely reserved guy) basicly said that this ref is brutal.

EDIT: And another penalty, my god, this ref is doing his best to hand the game to USA!

Wheeler!!!

Ryan is starting to heat up. Good for him. He NEEDS to play like a #2 draft pick.

Goal!

now wheeler owes ryan and schremp a beer each.

This is what you get when a swedish ref is doing a game with Finland playing, 2 of the US goals are direct results of EXTREMELY weak calls, former finnish U20 coach is commenting the game and even he (extremely reserved guy) basicly said that this ref is brutal.

EDIT: And another penalty, my god, this ref is doing his best to hand the game to USA!

US calls are just as brutal. What's your point?

Interesting. Two of the bigger pariahs so far (Ryan & Wheeler) have been key contributors tonight. Schremp doing some nice work with those two players.

Schremp is fantastic.

Where can I listen to this game (if there's one)?

US calls are just as brutal. What's your point?

Are they? A Finn got called for holding the stick when the US kid was hooking him. :shakehead

And Seitsonen didn't even touch the US kid when he got called for tripping.

In all US calls there's been at least some visible reason behind them...

I hope to god the refs let the US and Canada play some good hockey. But that might be too much too ask!

You doubt what?

Name a more naturally talented forward on team USA other than Kessel.
Schremp?

Are they? A Finn got called for holding the stick when the US kid was hooking him. :shakehead

And Seitsonen didn't even touch the US kid when he got called for tripping.

In all US calls there's been at least some visible reason behind them...

All Wheeler did was check someone and he got called.

There are brutal calls on both sides.

US calls are just as brutal. What's your point?

Hell they are, the 1st period the ref missed several clear US penalties while giving phantom penalties to Finland.

2nd period has been more even, now the calls are better but still the reffing is far from consistant.

Hell they are, the 1st period the ref missed several clear US penalties while giving phantom penalties to Finland.

2nd period has been more even, now the calls are better but still the reffing is far from consistant.


Hahaha, okay. So the Jack Johnson "penalty" 22 seconds in was some amazing call? Seriously, the penalties have sucked for both sides. Try and realize that.

lol@canadians cheering for the fins.

the johnsons are spending too much time in the box tonight.

They were neutral at first, but after the ref started to decide the game for the US (when finland went up 2-0 and the garbage calls started), they started booing and cheering for the finns. Especially after that holding the stick call that got the U.S a 5 on 3 pp.

Good reactions by canadian audience, the first period reffing was one of the worst, most one sided performances I have seen in years. Other than that, a nice tight game. If the ref would let the teams decide this themselves, it would be a close call.

I love everyone comming in and saying that the US is only winning because of the refs.

Ridiculous.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Okay, we get it the only reason Finland is losing is because of the refs. :shakehead

gotta ask again, it hasn't been answered.


is there somewhere we can listen?

gotta ask again, it hasn't been answered.


is there somewhere we can listen?

www.usahockey.com

I wonder what the record is for 5on5 hockey in this tourney. This is really sad :rant: