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Slitty 12-23-2005, 06:31 PM Well all the rosters have been announced! This means its pretty much 4 years until the next time this will happen. Predict your North American team's roster/lines in 4 years taking into account aging players + current youngsters and lets see who is the closest in 4 years time!
insider 12-23-2005, 06:39 PM Crosby-Nash-Iginla-Spezza-Heatley-Brule-Thornton_Carter_Bergeron_Marleau
Pouliot_Perry
Brewer_Phaneuf
Bourdon_Bergeron
Niedermayer_Bouwmeester
Luongo
Fleury
Leclaire
Gags1288 12-23-2005, 06:40 PM Crosby-Nash-Iginla-Spezza-Heatley-Brule-Thornton_Carter_Bergeron_Marleau
Pouliot_Perry
Brewer_Phaneuf
Bourdon_Bergeron
Niedermayer_Bouwmeester
Luongo
Fleury
Leclaire
Gagne's probably a pretty sure bet, he'll have just turned 30 at the time.
Shoalzie 12-23-2005, 06:48 PM I was about to post this same thread right after Team USA was announced.
Ages of the 2006 Team USA in 2010...
Rick DiPietro, 29
John-Michael Liles, 30
Jordan Leopold, 30
Brian Gionta, 31
Scott Gomez, 31
Erik Cole, 32
Robert Esche, 32
Mark Parrish, 33
Chris Drury, 34
John Grahame, 35
Brian Rafalski, 37
Brian Rolston, 37
Jason Blake, 37
Darian Hatcher, 38
Keith Tkachuk, 38
Mike Knuble, 38
Aaron Miller, 39
Craig Conroy, 39
Doug Weight, 39
Bill Guerin, 40
Mike Modano, 40
Mathieu Schneider, 41
Chris Chelios, 48
I highly doubt we'll see many of the guys in the mid to late-30s make the team with all of talent from the last few years of WJC teams soon to graduate to the NHL. I can see everyone from Drury and younger playing again but none of them are sure things. Team USA doesn't have the youth pipeline like Canada has with Spezza, Crosby and Staal early in their careers. These guys will only be in the mid-20s when the next Olympics rolls around and with it in Vancouver, the pressure will be on Canada to stay on top. It would be huge for Team USA's new youth movement to take control of the world scene. I'm fairly sure that Canada will put together another powerhouse in 4 years and keep the gold medal.
Crosby-Nash-Iginla-Spezza-Heatley-Brule-Thornton_Carter_Bergeron_Marleau
Pouliot_Perry
Brewer_Phaneuf
Bourdon_Bergeron
Niedermayer_Bouwmeester
Luongo
Fleury
Leclaire
I guarantee you that Staal will be on that team, as well as Richards, St. Louis, Lecavlier, Pronger, and Regher.
insider 12-23-2005, 07:17 PM Gagne's probably a pretty sure bet, he'll have just turned 30 at the time.
I meant to put him... i honestly had thought of him
my bad
insider 12-23-2005, 07:18 PM I guarantee you that Staal will be on that team, as well as Richards, St. Louis, Lecavlier, Pronger, and Regher.
pb... maybe not Prongs... I just did that off the top of my head
discostu 12-23-2005, 07:38 PM pb... maybe not Prongs... I just did that off the top of my head
Pronger's younger than Niedermayer. Barring injury problems, I think he's a pretty strong bet to be there in the future.
Looking over Canada's roster, there's only a few players that I could definitevly say that won't be on the team. Foote and Blake are gimmes. I'm actually not willing to write Sakic off yet, given that Yzerman still had a shot on this team this year. Players like Draper, Smyth, St. Louis, Bertuzzi, McCabe, Jovanovski will probably decline in play in that time period enough to put their spots in jeopardy, but, still have the ability to make the team. All the rest have to decline more than expected to get knocked off.
go kim johnsson 514 12-23-2005, 08:31 PM R.J. Umberger Team USA 2010 :yo:
Hedberg 12-23-2005, 08:42 PM Canada:
Goal:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Defence
Ed Jovanovski
Chris Pronger
Wade Redden
Robyn Regehr
Scott Niedermayer
Jay Bouwmeester
Dion Phaneuf
Forwards
Simon Gagne
Dany Heatley
Jarome Iginla
Vincent Lecavalier
Rick Nash
Brad Richards
Joe Thornton
Sidney Crosby
Jason Spezza
Eric Staal
Nathan Horton
Jeff Carter
Either Joe Sakic or John Tavares
Rabid Ranger 12-23-2005, 10:32 PM Personally, I think you'll see a considerable overhaul of the U.S. roster. Here's who I think will be considered:
Goaltenders (x3):
Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jim Howard
Defense (x8):
J.M. Liles
Jordan Leopold
Paul Martin
Tim Gleason
Jack Johnson
Keith Ballard
Ryan Whitney
Ryan Suter
Forwards (x12):
Erik Cole
Brian Gionta
Scott Gomez
Zach Parise
Phil Kessel
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Chris Drury
Mark Parrish
R.J. Umberger
Chris Higgins
Ryan Malone
Shoalzie 12-24-2005, 09:36 AM Personally, I think you'll see a considerable overhaul of the U.S. roster. Here's who I think will be considered:
Goaltenders (x3):
Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jim Howard
Defense (x8):
J.M. Liles
Jordan Leopold
Paul Martin
Tim Gleason
Jack Johnson
Keith Ballard
Ryan Whitney
Ryan Suter
Forwards (x12):
Erik Cole
Brian Gionta
Scott Gomez
Zach Parise
Phil Kessel
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Chris Drury
Mark Parrish
R.J. Umberger
Chris Higgins
Ryan Malone
Solid picks...you might have one of the old guard still around to be a Yoda-like figure on the team like what Chelios has been. Could Modano play until he's 40?
I think Montoya could get one of goalie spots on the team...we've yet to see him in NHL action though. Howard has the potential to become the #1 American goalie.
I love that blueline...lots of potential. Look out for Brett Lebda over the next couple of years with the Wings. He could become a Mathieu Schneider-like player with his big shot from the blueline.
I don't think I can argue with your forwards right now until I get a chance to see some of the young forwards entering the league the next couple of seasons. Hopefully we'll see Kessel in the NHL next season or in 2007-08.
Lots of potential but it's hard to not think Canada will still be the favorites in 2010...4 more years of experience for Crosby, Spezza and Staal and Luongo should establish himself as the best goalie in the league by then. They'll be tough to beat.
Choice 12-24-2005, 09:38 AM marc staal could be there
Shoalzie 12-24-2005, 09:39 AM Canada:
Goal:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Marc-Andre Fleury
Defence
Ed Jovanovski
Chris Pronger
Wade Redden
Robyn Regehr
Scott Niedermayer
Jay Bouwmeester
Dion Phaneuf
Forwards
Simon Gagne
Dany Heatley
Jarome Iginla
Vincent Lecavalier
Rick Nash
Brad Richards
Joe Thornton
Sidney Crosby
Jason Spezza
Eric Staal
Nathan Horton
Jeff Carter
Either Joe Sakic or John Tavares
That's a nasty team...could potentially be better than either of the 2002 or 2006 squads. With the home crowd behind them in 2010, I'd already make them odds-on favorites to win gold in Vancouver.
Regency 12-24-2005, 10:07 AM Mike Richards could fill the Smyth-Doan-Draper role.
The Mars Volchenkov 12-24-2005, 11:22 AM Chris Chelios, 48
He'll probably still be playing.
wildone26* 12-24-2005, 12:41 PM I guarantee you that Staal will be on that team, as well as Richards, St. Louis, Lecavlier, Pronger, and Regher.
I gaurantee you the Tampa Bay trio will NOT all make the next Olympic team. I would be surprised if more than 1 of the 3 do. If the overrated Nash is on the Olympic team at 21, he definitely will be at 25, Crosby, Staal, and Spezza, will probably all make the team by then. The Tampa Bay trio will not be able to duplicate their 2003-04 season very often, if ever again, and that is the only way they will keep getting on the team after this year.
Petey Knights 12-24-2005, 01:52 PM I gaurantee you the Tampa Bay trio will NOT all make the next Olympic team. I would be surprised if more than 1 of the 3 do. If the overrated Nash is on the Olympic team at 21, he definitely will be at 25, Crosby, Staal, and Spezza, will probably all make the team by then. The Tampa Bay trio will not be able to duplicate their 2003-04 season very often, if ever again, and that is the only way they will keep getting on the team after this year.
You're right, the Tampa trio won't all make the 2010 team. However, the only one who won't is Martin St. Louis. Richards and Lecavalier are bonafide superstars in the NHL. You cannot argue with one being a Conn Smythe winner and one being the World Cup MVP, both led Tampa to the Stanley Cup etc. They will be there. If for no other reason than Hockey Canada will stick with them unless they have suffered season or career-ending injuries.
wildone26* 12-24-2005, 02:02 PM You're right, the Tampa trio won't all make the 2010 team. However, the only one who won't is Martin St. Louis. Richards and Lecavalier are bonafide superstars in the NHL. You cannot argue with one being a Conn Smythe winner and one being the World Cup MVP, both led Tampa to the Stanley Cup etc. They will be there. If for no other reason than Hockey Canada will stick with them unless they have suffered season or career-ending injuries.
I dont agree LeCavalier and Richards are locks for the 2010 team. Winning a single MVP award in 2004, will not gaurantee you making the 2010 Olympic team, no way. By that point I am guessing Staal, Spezza, Crosby, and possably even Nash, will be regularly scoring more points than them in the NHL. Iginla, Sakic, Heatley, Thornton, and Gagne, are still more bonafide stars of the game than they are, even with the awards you mentioned. I could see one or both not making the 2010 team.
DeuceUNO 12-24-2005, 02:05 PM Personally, I think you'll see a considerable overhaul of the U.S. roster. Here's who I think will be considered:
Goaltenders (x3):
Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jim Howard
Defense (x8):
J.M. Liles
Jordan Leopold
Paul Martin
Tim Gleason
Jack Johnson
Keith Ballard
Ryan Whitney
Ryan Suter
Forwards (x12):
Erik Cole
Brian Gionta
Scott Gomez
Zach Parise
Phil Kessel
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Chris Drury
Mark Parrish
R.J. Umberger
Chris Higgins
Ryan Malone
I'd add O'Sullivan to that list...otherwise
me likey :handclap:
discostu 12-24-2005, 02:08 PM You're right, the Tampa trio won't all make the 2010 team. However, the only one who won't is Martin St. Louis. Richards and Lecavalier are bonafide superstars in the NHL. You cannot argue with one being a Conn Smythe winner and one being the World Cup MVP, both led Tampa to the Stanley Cup etc. They will be there. If for no other reason than Hockey Canada will stick with them unless they have suffered season or career-ending injuries.
True, look at how much it's done for Giguere :D .
kingpest19 12-24-2005, 02:09 PM Personally, I think you'll see a considerable overhaul of the U.S. roster. Here's who I think will be considered:
Goaltenders (x3):
Rick DiPietro
Ryan Miller
Jim Howard
Defense (x8):
J.M. Liles
Jordan Leopold
Paul Martin
Tim Gleason
Jack Johnson
Keith Ballard
Ryan Whitney
Ryan Suter
Forwards (x12):
Erik Cole
Brian Gionta
Scott Gomez
Zach Parise
Phil Kessel
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Chris Drury
Mark Parrish
R.J. Umberger
Chris Higgins
Ryan Malone
did dustin brown retire?
Rabid Ranger 12-24-2005, 06:13 PM did dustin brown retire?
Good call. Substitute Brown for Malone.
Randall Graves* 12-24-2005, 06:34 PM Good call. Substitute Brown for Malone.
Not to be a homer, but you don't think Bobby Ryan will be better than Higgins or Kesler by this time?
What about Schremp and Skille, I realize they have yet to play in the NHL but team USA is not exactly overflowing with veteran talent imo. I am not all that overly in love with Drury like alot of people are either.
Rabid Ranger 12-25-2005, 10:36 AM Not to be a homer, but you don't think Bobby Ryan will be better than Higgins or Kesler by this time?
What about Schremp and Skille, I realize they have yet to play in the NHL but team USA is not exactly overflowing with veteran talent imo. I am not all that overly in love with Drury like alot of people are either.
Higgins and Kesler play differant roles than guys like Ryan, O'Sullivan, and Schremp. They're already in the NHL and playing well. They'll both be on the team. Forward is the toughest position to call IMO. It could be a very differant mix than the one I have. I just went with guys that were semi-established.
Canada, 2010
GOALIES :
Roberto Luongo
Cam Ward
Someone else than Carey Price
Defense
Dion Phaneuf
Jay Bouwmeester
Wade Redden
Dan Boyle
Chris Pronger
Scott Niedermayer
Someone else than Luc Bourdon
Forward
Sidney Crosby
Jason Spezza
Eric Staal
Vincent Lecavalier
Patrick Marleau
Rick Nash
Simon Gagné
Joe Thornton
Dany Heatley
Patrice Bergeron
Todd Bertuzzi
Jonathan Cheechoo
Someone else than Jeff Carter
Taxi Squad
Brent Seabrook
Michael Ryder
Gilbert Brule
gobolt7 12-25-2005, 11:15 AM Someone else than Jeff Carter
*Homer alert*
Brad Richards?
4 years is a long ways away and there will be guys emerge that we don't suspect yet but will wiggle their way onto the team.Still,anyway you cut it Canada will again have hard choices but pleasant ones with all the toys they will have at their disposal in 2010.It likely will be a better team then this years entry.
Goal:Luongo,Fleury,Ward?
Forwards: Crosby,Staal,Spezza,Mike Richards,Brad Richards,Bergeron,Gagne,Heatley,Lecavalier,Thornto n,Nash,Horton,Cheechoo. Wow!!!
Defense: tough call here..........what veterans will still be in the mix then that are on the team now? Anyway:Phaneuf,Bouwmeester,Hamhuis,Regehr,Pronger, Redden, and any one of these guys could go at that time............Neidermayer,Seabrooke,Jackman(barr et),Van Ryn,Eminger,Weber.I'll stay with neids as my 7th guy but not really sure he'll be there in 2010 though.
Canada is going to have just a tremendous team,maybe their best since 1987 or 76.........................they look that formidable honestly.
Canada_87 12-26-2005, 04:09 PM Rick Nash - Sidney Crosby - Dany Heatley
Eric Staal - Jason Spezza - Jarome Iginla
Simon Gagne - Vincent Lecavalier - Brad Richards
Mike Richards - Joe Thornton - Nathan Horton
Bertuzzi / Toews / Esposito / Tavares / Carter
WOW :bow:
Jay Bouwmeester - Dion Phaneuf
Scott Niedermayer - Chris Pronger
Wade Redden - Ed Jovanovski
Regehr / Seabrook / Barker / Weber / Boyle / Stuart
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc-Andre Fleury
:clap:
Looks like we're going to be Olympic Champions 3 times in a row :yo:
Rick Nash - Sidney Crosby - Dany Heatley
Eric Staal - Jason Spezza - Jarome Iginla
Simon Gagne - Vincent Lecavalier - Brad Richards
Mike Richards - Joe Thornton - Nathan Horton
Bertuzzi / Toews / Esposito / Tavares / Carter
WOW :bow:
Jay Bouwmeester - Dion Phaneuf
Scott Niedermayer - Chris Pronger
Wade Redden - Ed Jovanovski
Regehr / Seabrook / Barker / Weber / Boyle / Stuart
Roberto Luongo
Martin Brodeur
Marc-Andre Fleury
:clap:
Looks like we're going to be Olympic Champions 3 times in a row :yo:
I'm not sure about this year myself but in 2010,i'm already willing to lay money down that it will take a huge upset to beat us.We're going to be so powerful in 2010 it's almost unfair.We're going to be tremendous in Vancouver.The options and firepower on that team are going to be incredible.Good luck world......................you're gonna need it.
Randall Graves* 12-26-2005, 05:35 PM Higgins and Kesler play differant roles than guys like Ryan, O'Sullivan, and Schremp. They're already in the NHL and playing well. They'll both be on the team. Forward is the toughest position to call IMO. It could be a very differant mix than the one I have. I just went with guys that were semi-established.
no problem, 2010 the team is imo going to be very young, or atleast younger than we are used too. Because our best players are likely going to be guys 27 and under for the most part. If guys pan out then we could be very good in 2010.
What a shocker!! Know one wants to step foot on this one.Hmm...............................we're gonna kick some *** in 2010.
NCSENSFAN 12-27-2005, 05:38 PM It is going to be a great team in Canada, but how will they deal with the home town pressure. It is going to be real real high!
Herby 12-27-2005, 06:24 PM Looks like we're going to be Olympic Champions 3 times in a row :yo:
The arrogance and homerism level on this board gets higher with each new post.
You won in 2002, 2006 is yet to even happen and you are already saying its a given you will win. And have now moved on to hyping the 2010 team.
This board will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win Gold in Italy.
The arrogance and homerism level on this board gets higher with each new post.
You won in 2002, 2006 is yet to even happen and you are already saying its a given you will win. And have now moved on to hyping the 2010 team.
This board will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win Gold in Italy.
i agree you can't count your chickens before they're hatched but Canada will have a tremendous team in Vancouver and thats what the thread is about.We can toot our horn a little bit i think.Everyone does that.
Herby 12-27-2005, 09:57 PM i agree you can't count your chickens before they're hatched but Canada will have a tremendous team in Vancouver and thats what the thread is about.We can toot our horn a little bit i think.Everyone does that.
The Russians are going to be sick good too.
What I have a problem is when someone says..
"Canada is going to be great in 2010, we should be in line for our 3rd straight gold"
How can someone say something so dumb, its ridiculous.
The Russians are going to be sick good too.
What I have a problem is when someone says..
"Canada is going to be great in 2010, we should be in line for our 3rd straight gold"
How can someone say something so dumb, its ridiculous.
yeah they will be but still not as good as Canada on paper i don't think.Though i agree,we have'nt won the 2006 gold yet and may not.
Rabid Ranger 12-28-2005, 11:37 AM What a shocker!! Know one wants to step foot on this one.Hmm...............................we're gonna kick some *** in 2010.
I don't know if there's a whole lot anyone can say, since it's a fact Canada will again have an impressive team. Other countries will as well, so it's not a foregone conclusion that Canada will win the gold. Russia's offense will be unreal, and the U.S. defense and goaltending should be top-notch.
Rabid Ranger 12-28-2005, 11:37 AM The arrogance and homerism level on this board gets higher with each new post.
You won in 2002, 2006 is yet to even happen and you are already saying its a given you will win. And have now moved on to hyping the 2010 team.
This board will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win Gold in Italy.
It will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win gold at the WJC's.
I don't know if there's a whole lot anyone can say, since it's a fact Canada will again have an impressive team. Other countries will as well, so it's not a foregone conclusion that Canada will win the gold. Russia's offense will be unreal, and the U.S. defense and goaltending should be top-notch.
i agree,other countries will also.Having said that if you look at the paper potential of the Canadian team that will go in there it is the strongest on paper right from top to bottom as far as the early crystal ball can see.Not that it can't lose but that it will be tough to beat and potentiialy has the chance of being the best Canadian team since 87 or 76(maybe better) if that is this teams potential then beating them will be an upset for sure.While i agree counting chickens before they are hatched is wrong i disagree Canadian fans can't verbalize how tremendous that team potentially can be because they will be tremendous for sure.
I mean all fans from everywhere do that,i've seen plenty of American fans talk about just how good their junior team is this year and that it will take a great upset to beat them both before and during this tournament so far so i think it's fine that fans from everywhere can do that with their teams(as long as it's based on solid footing) and with team Canada 2010 it's defenitaly solid ground to tread on,they are going to be awesoome.
12# Peter Bondra 12-28-2005, 12:33 PM It will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win gold at the WJC's.
6 months if Canada doesnt win the WJC's or Olympics.
Cause the WJC's and Olympics are close to each other and I dont want to see what happens if Canada doesnt win any of the two.
hey,we love our hockey!!
If only you guys had the same passion.Win or lose with us,you know we'll be talking about it!!
Canada_87 12-30-2005, 02:33 PM The arrogance and homerism level on this board gets higher with each new post.
You won in 2002, 2006 is yet to even happen and you are already saying its a given you will win. And have now moved on to hyping the 2010 team.
This board will crash and be overloaded for 3 months if Canada doesn't win Gold in Italy.
Let me rephrase that then: Looks like we will be a heavy contender to win gold for the next two Olympic Games. Happy?
guzzy 12-30-2005, 02:49 PM Crosby-Nash-Iginla-Spezza-Heatley-Brule-Thornton_Carter_Bergeron_Marleau
Pouliot_Perry
Brewer_Phaneuf
Bourdon_Bergeron
Niedermayer_Bouwmeester
Luongo
Fleury
Leclaire
Brewer sucks and will probably never play of the Olympics again. He was there because of Lowe. He wasn't even in TC's top 10 this time around. The rest of the D looks good though.
PycckuuRocket10 01-02-2006, 07:03 PM I was about to post this same thread right after Team USA was announced.
Ages of the 2006 Team USA in 2010...
Rick DiPietro, 29
John-Michael Liles, 30
Jordan Leopold, 30
Brian Gionta, 31
Scott Gomez, 31
Erik Cole, 32
Robert Esche, 32
Mark Parrish, 33
Chris Drury, 34
John Grahame, 35
Brian Rafalski, 37
Brian Rolston, 37
Jason Blake, 37
Darian Hatcher, 38
Keith Tkachuk, 38
Mike Knuble, 38
Aaron Miller, 39
Craig Conroy, 39
Doug Weight, 39
Bill Guerin, 40
Mike Modano, 40
Mathieu Schneider, 41
Chris Chelios, 48
I highly doubt we'll see many of the guys in the mid to late-30s make the team with all of talent from the last few years of WJC teams soon to graduate to the NHL. I can see everyone from Drury and younger playing again but none of them are sure things. Team USA doesn't have the youth pipeline like Canada has with Spezza, Crosby and Staal early in their careers. These guys will only be in the mid-20s when the next Olympics rolls around and with it in Vancouver, the pressure will be on Canada to stay on top. It would be huge for Team USA's new youth movement to take control of the world scene. I'm fairly sure that Canada will put together another powerhouse in 4 years and keep the gold medal.
CHelios could come back, you never know, hes always been a surprise. :dunno:
wildone26* 01-02-2006, 07:19 PM I cant believe anybody has Esposito on their 2010 team. If Crosby could not make the team at 18, Esposito is not going to make it at 20. I have seen Esposito play, no doubt he is good, but he is nowhere near Crosby at the same age.
I also would be very surprised if Toews makes the next Olympic team, as good as he is. Only a very special(or overrated)player will make the team at 21 or younger. Crosby probably would have made the Olympic team at 19 or 20 had there been an Olympics in 2007 or 2008 but he is truly a special player.
Chris Chelios, 48
:biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Transported Upstater 01-02-2006, 07:54 PM They'll bring back Chelios for the Vancouver Olympics, to model his "Official Chris Chelios Designer Hockey Diapers."
Canada_87 01-04-2006, 01:08 AM I cant believe anybody has Esposito on their 2010 team. If Crosby could not make the team at 18, Esposito is not going to make it at 20. I have seen Esposito play, no doubt he is good, but he is nowhere near Crosby at the same age.
I also would be very surprised if Toews makes the next Olympic team, as good as he is. Only a very special(or overrated)player will make the team at 21 or younger. Crosby probably would have made the Olympic team at 19 or 20 had there been an Olympics in 2007 or 2008 but he is truly a special player.
Nash and Bouwmeester made the 04 World Cup team as 20 year olds. Eric Staal technically made or almost made the 2006 Olympic team as a 21 year old. It's not completely out of the question.
Pothier 01-04-2006, 01:34 AM Jarret Stoll, anyone?
therealdeal 01-04-2006, 01:50 AM Nash and Bouwmeester made the 04 World Cup team as 20 year olds. Eric Staal technically made or almost made the 2006 Olympic team as a 21 year old. It's not completely out of the question.
Nash didn't actually make the team, but Gretz did say he was next in line in case of injury.
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