Jacques Lemaire talking smack

Blackjack
12-03-2005, 10:40 PM
"That's what a shootout does to you," Wild coach Jacques Lemaire said. "They didn't play their best game and they come out with the win. That's why I don't like shootouts."

http://www.nhl.com/scores/recaps/390_2_recap.html

I can't believe he said that! :biglaugh:

I don't really have a problem with it because it's true, but I'll be he only said it because he knows he's not playing us again for a long time.

Brooklyndevil
12-04-2005, 12:22 AM
http://www.nhl.com/scores/recaps/390_2_recap.html

I can't believe he said that! :biglaugh:

I don't really have a problem with it because it's true, but I'll be he only said it because he knows he's not playing us again for a long time.


I'm no big fan of the shootout. I can understand where Jacques is coming from. They should have gone to 3 on 3 after 4 on 4. However, it's only a gimmick now, but my real fear is in a few years. I believe the powers of the NHL, NBC, OLN and probably ESPN down the road will force shootsouts into the playoffs!

TaiMaiShu
12-04-2005, 12:25 AM
I'm no big fan of the shootout. I can understand where Jacques is coming from. They should have gone to 3 on 3 after 4 on 4. However, it's only a gimmick now, but my real fear is in a few years. I believe the powers of the NHL, NBC, OLN and probably ESPN down the road will force shootsouts into the playoffs!


that would be TOTAL B.S. :madfire: :madfire: :rant:

Devilsfanatic
12-04-2005, 12:36 AM
I'm no big fan of the shootout. I can understand where Jacques is coming from. They should have gone to 3 on 3 after 4 on 4. However, it's only a gimmick now, but my real fear is in a few years. I believe the powers of the NHL, NBC, OLN and probably ESPN down the road will force shootsouts into the playoffs!

That'll never happen, you'd be naive to believe so. There is nothing more exciting than full periods of overtime, next goal wins hockey. A game 7 that goes to OT is regarded as the NHL's cash cow.....no way would they want a shootout over that.

Brooklyndevil
12-04-2005, 09:07 AM
That'll never happen, you'd be naive to believe so. There is nothing more exciting than full periods of overtime, next goal wins hockey. A game 7 that goes to OT is regarded as the NHL's cash cow.....no way would they want a shootout over that.

Who's being naive? The T.V. networks fear these 2 or 3 period overtime games. And it's used in Olympic Hockey and in World Cup Soccer. Now that they implemented the shootout to the regular season, it's only a matter of time!

ddnow2000
12-04-2005, 09:51 AM
I see his comment as a back-handed compliment.
The Devils are good enough to play poorly and still tie a decent Minny team in regulation and win in a shootout.
Did the Devils play well yesterday???
If that's as good as the Devils can play then we're in trouble.

Volcanologist
12-04-2005, 10:11 AM
Bravo, Jacques. :clap:

Guttersnipe
12-04-2005, 05:07 PM
Who's being naive? The T.V. networks fear these 2 or 3 period overtime games. And it's used in Olympic Hockey and in World Cup Soccer. Now that they implemented the shootout to the regular season, it's only a matter of time!

No, OT is great for ratings in the playoffs, if casual fans turn on a playoff game that's still tied in the 2nd or 3rd period they'll start watching it. Heck, I watched the second half of 18-inning Astro-Braves game and I actively dislike both those teams.

The 2000 Stars-Devils triple-OT game was the highest rated hockey game in 20 years. I remember Gretzky saying that the 2000 SCF series was "great" for hockey, allowing me to finally forgive him for the "Mickey Mouse orginization" comment.


http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2000/0609/575965.html

BigBully4
12-04-2005, 08:42 PM
I have to agree with the shootout eventually making its way into the NHL playoffs. Sooner or later, the networks will decide that the shootout is a quick, exciting way to end the game. They won't have to worry about endless overtimes, and they'll be salivating at the thought of Jagr vs. Brodeur, game 7 Eastern Conference Finals, with Jagr needing the goal to win the series for New York.

In a way, I'd much rather see that than a fluke goal in the 2nd OT off of Petr Prucha's ***.

Main Devil
12-04-2005, 09:49 PM
He's correct.

Wild out played the Devils but Devils won in shootout.

So what's wrong with nwhat he said?

joeskow
12-04-2005, 11:08 PM
I have to agree with the shootout eventually making its way into the NHL playoffs. Sooner or later, the networks will decide that the shootout is a quick, exciting way to end the game. They won't have to worry about endless overtimes, and they'll be salivating at the thought of Jagr vs. Brodeur, game 7 Eastern Conference Finals, with Jagr needing the goal to win the series for New York.

In a way, I'd much rather see that than a fluke goal in the 2nd OT off of Petr Prucha's ***.

nothing is better than sudden death O.T. in the playoffs. the coaches, players, GM's, owners, and league officials will never allow the shootout to happen. this is just a gimmick to draw new fans. I believe the shootout will die off eventually.

BigBully4
12-05-2005, 12:28 AM
Shootouts aren't going anywhere. Ratings are up, everyone likes them (except Lemaire), and I think that, eventually, the "casual fan" will win out and long OTs will go the way of the Dodo bird and we'll see one-on-one matchups to solve a game.

+73*
12-05-2005, 09:38 AM
http://www.nhl.com/scores/recaps/390_2_recap.html

I can't believe he said that! :biglaugh:

I don't really have a problem with it because it's true, but I'll be he only said it because he knows he's not playing us again for a long time.


yeah, suuuure guy, that's why he said it...
nowadays Minnesota plays defensive-system hockey better than anyone.
and why are you so bent out of shape of Scott Neidermeyer's exit? get over it, already. your team won three (3) cups while he was there.

and what's with all the talk about "the casual fan liking shootouts..." [who cares what the casual fan likes? i post and read here because i want to get away from the casual fan]. and this crazy-talk about SO's eventually becoming part of the playoffs because everyone likes them?
suuuure, nobody's riveted by multi-OT playoff thrillers.
i'll check back after a shootout loss to see if everyone is still enthralled with shootouts.
maybe next time Marty's fat ex-wife will show up on the diamond-vision screen and distract him.

4check22
12-05-2005, 09:55 AM
yeah, suuuure guy, that's why he said it...
nowadays Minnesota plays defensive-system hockey better than anyone.
and why are you so bent out of shape of Scott Neidermeyer's exit? get over it, already. your team won three (3) cups while he was there.

and what's with all the talk about "the casual fan liking shootouts..." [who cares what the casual fan likes? i post and read here because i want to get away from the casual fan]. and this crazy-talk about SO's eventually becoming part of the playoffs because everyone likes them?
suuuure, nobody's riveted by multi-OT playoff thrillers.
i'll check back after a shootout loss to see if everyone is still enthralled with shootouts.
maybe next time Marty's fat ex-wife will show up on the diamond-vision screen and distract him.By "nowadays" you must mean "this year" because the Devils have owned defensive hockey for more than a decade. Yeah, Lemaire started it, but when he left, we still won two Cups mostly because of strong defense and lost a Game 7 SCF match in 2001.

As far as Niedermayer leaving, most of us are over it. He's not making the Ducks a contender, and if we needed anybody back from last year, it would be the other Scott who departed our blueline.

I'm with you on the shootouts in the playoffs. Won't happen.

devilish34
12-05-2005, 05:30 PM
A shootout is the worse way to loose. Ask anyone who has been on that side.
You work hard as a TEAM then loose based on individual effort. The shootout is ment for exhibition and slow long drawn out sports ie soccer. It is an attempt to make it "the most exciting play in hockey" (penalty shot). As we see more and more the fans will become numb to it. This is a fast paced sport goto 3-3 O.T.
The NHL was looking for away to attract new fans. They didn't do it for die hards.
Back to the penalty shot it's speacial because it's not an every day /gave event.



Just my thoughts

Tao Jones
12-05-2005, 07:07 PM
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=3771324#post37711324

post #98


Update: I see I am in the 19% minority according to OLN.

Guttersnipe
12-05-2005, 08:01 PM
I just don't get why people think there will be SO in the playoffs. The longer people watch a playoff game, the more ads they see. Why do you think the baseball playoff games are exruciatingly drawn out? The NHL added shootouts to get rid of ties, not sudden death OT which everyone loves. There are no ties in the playoffs, so there is no need for the SO in the playoffs.

If the NHL is going to something to stupid, they'll increase the number of teams that make the playoffs. I think the extra playoff profits may be too much tempting for them to pass up.

dkball7
12-05-2005, 10:09 PM
I just don't get why people think there will be SO in the playoffs. The longer people watch a playoff game, the more ads they see. Why do you think the baseball playoff games are exruciatingly drawn out? The NHL added shootouts to get rid of ties, not sudden death OT which everyone loves. There are no ties in the playoffs, so there is no need for the SO in the playoffs.

If the NHL is going to something to stupid, they'll increase the number of teams that make the playoffs. I think the extra playoff profits may be too much tempting for them to pass up.

The extra adds are minimal since they are only shown during intermission last I remember (it has been a while).

Drewr15
12-06-2005, 12:35 PM
The extra adds are minimal since they are only shown during intermission last I remember (it has been a while).

Your right, there are no commercial breaks in playoff OT. I am a die hard fan and enjoy the shootout as long as it stays in the regular season. Malik's goal in the Rangers/Caps shootout is reason alone to keep it.The NHL does not have that many casual fans, and yet the arenas are full of cheering people when the shootout occurs. I think the illusion that only casual fans like it should be laid to rest already.
And thankfully with players on the rules committee I really don't think we will ever see it in the playoffs. But its here to stay in the regular season for awhile.

Tao Jones
12-06-2005, 01:59 PM
The 2000 Stars-Devils triple-OT game was the highest rated hockey game in 20 years. I remember Gretzky saying that the 2000 SCF series was "great" for hockey, allowing me to finally forgive him for the "Mickey Mouse orginization" comment.


http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2000/0609/575965.html

Thanks, I missed that.