Take a breather...

Why don't some of you guys do what I do. Not post on the boards until a day or two after a bad loss. It will drastically eliminate all of the hot headed non-sense. If you think this will be our last embarrassing loss of the season even if we did make all these suggested changes tonight (fire Crow, trade a big part of the core/future for Luongo, etc.), u are mistaken.

When we have real problems (ie Boston, St.Louis, San Jose) then we can begin the headhunting, for now try and look ahead to a good rematch on Wednesday. As you can see im not posting any comments on the game itself, too many negative thoughts at the moment.

Cheers.

Because the best time to read this forum is after a big-loss. I love reading all the BS.

This isn't just from tonight though, it is the 1-6 record against key divisional opponents Calgary and Colorado, it is the lackluster starts that are killing us, it is the inconsistent play of everyone and even when we have won it hasn't been a dominating performance. We're no Ottawa Senators, but we should atleast be playing better than we are.

It isn't time to start trading our core, only the goalie position if it makes us a stronger team. Firing the coach, if there is a suitable replacement, I'd agree with however for now management needs to put some pressure on the coaches and players to step up to the plate and deliver.

I don't know about you, but I'd like to correct problems BEFORE they spiral way out of control. Do you really want to wait until we're as bad as St. Louis before we make changes?

I don't know about you, but I'd like to correct problems BEFORE they spiral way out of control. Do you really want to wait until we're as bad as St. Louis before we make changes?

Sounds like someone like you needs to be in control then. Because no one else is realizing that.

I would rather have the Canucks work their butts off and squeak into the playoffs rather than see the team we have now finish with a high seeding. We might be getting 2 points on the scoresheet but it certainly doesn't feel like we're winning with the lame *** efforts. This organization needs to do the same thing the Senators did and can the coach. It's frustrating to watch this team play as it looks as though they don't care what the outcome of the game is. Then after every poor effort they always repeat the same thing and don't do anything about it. Heck, without the Sedins/Salo we would be behind the Edmonton oilers and fourth in the Northwest. Has this team ever played up to it's potential with Marc Crawford as our coach?

We do have real problems.

The way I look at it. A major shakeup could seriously change team chemistry, even if only for a new head coach. We are winning right now (albeit sometimes ugly) and I do feel confident that the team will be playing hard come playoffs. I also think this is the last year for crow, cloutier, and perhaps a few other pieces if there is not a major run in the post season.

No we don't need to wait until our team spirals out of control, but getting blown out (if you want to call it that) by the second highest scoring team in the entire league, is not a huge surprise. We have detroits number, Col. and Cal. have ours right now, it happens.

We have not really faced adversity all year, and have been leading the division basically the entire time. Our test will come. Don't forget we are missing our biggest spark plug right now. Guy's like Cooke get the whole team going, and im sure he'd have more than a few shifts on the top line recently.

We keep running into great goaltendings performances, which is not helping our cause, especially when our own is playing sub par.

Every team wants to beat us, and we have nothing to prove in the regular season. Im not saying wait until the playoffs to get into high gear, but right now I am not overly concerned.

Because the best time to read this forum is after a big-loss. I love reading all the BS.

Heh, I usually stay away fromt he forum after a few losses, I usually can't stand all the BS... though I'd say I'm in agreement that its about time to let Crawford go. It's been what 7 years now? He's good, but he's no Scotty Bowman or Jaques Lemaire to merit such a long shelf life. Regardless though, it's no problem for an easy-going guy like me, but the Canucks can't be good for some peoples blood pressure :)

Stop with these threads... we are fans of a very lackluster team right now, we have the right to be pissed off.

This team is running at around 40% of what they should be.

Stop with these threads... we are fans of a very lackluster team right now, we have the right to be pissed off.

This team is running at around 40% of what they should be.

I'll second that!!!

Except that, I'm referring to my Avs when I say it... :dunno:

not everyone thinks it's panic time in Vancouver:

http://www.nhl.com/features/northwest112705.html

Vancouver Canucks
Markus Naslund has been very strong, Todd Bertuzzi is shaking off the rust, and the defense and goaltending have been sharp.

Yep, just another season for the Vancouver Canucks. With a 12-6-2 record at the 20-game mark, there isn't much to complain about in Vancouver. This is a club built for the long haul and there doesn't appear to be any storm clouds on the foreseeable horizon.


wow talk about a totally different perspective than the majority view here... mind you this was before the losses to the Avs and Coyotes, but I think for the most part, people agree that the problems aren't new, rather the lack of effort has been there since game 1.

What's ahead -- If you're the Canucks, more of the same is what you're after. Three more quarters like this and you're a team headed in the right direction at warp speed.

:biglaugh:

rather the lack of effort has been there since game 1.....


.....of the last played season.

For the people who like to simply point out they are first in the division. Well indeed they are. They are also a mere 4 points out of 10th and have managed to beat Colorado, Edmonton and Calgary only once in 8 games...all three teams are within 3 points of this canuck team. If this canuck team continues to play like this for another month, when we hit the 40 game mark it will no longer be a team in 1st in the division but 4th and out of a playoff spot. A sobering thought IMO.

So when is the correct time to address the problems that have been evident for quite some time? I've certainly had enough of the status quo. So either the players collectively pull their butts out of this lacklustre, uninspired play and do it ASAP or they will find themselves forcing Dave Nonis' hand not in a few months but in a few weeks when the season is half finished (if not before). I don't care which one but something has to give. Soon the "its only one game" excuse begins to total up to 30 or 40 and it's desperation time. I don't think a GM wants to be in desperation mode in a cap system.

here's some quick trivia posing as a thread of reassurance, should you choose to cling to it ...

When was the last time we had a good team, and had back to back 100-pts season (ok, 96, then 101) ...?

And what happened the next year....?

;)

And what happened the next year....?


I believe they still didn't win the Stanley Cup ;)

here's some quick trivia posing as a thread of reassurance, should you choose to cling to it ...

When was the last time we had a good team, and had back to back 100-pts season (ok, 96, then 101) ...?

And what happened the next year....?

;)

oh I get it... the team is just trying to keep the cycle alive.

It being the 2006 playoffs coming up and the 12 yr cycle isn't enough (82-94-06)... they also need to come into the playoffs as the underdogs and open up on the road... home ice advantage would spoil the tradition!

serious note though... I see little similarities between this team and the 94 canucks... that team was still led by a recent Vezina nominee, not an injury prone starter, who's stats are below average.

oh I get it... the team is just trying to keep the cycle alive.

It being the 2006 playoffs coming up and the 12 yr cycle isn't enough (82-94-06)... they also need to come into the playoffs as the underdogs and open up on the road... home ice advantage would spoil the tradition!

serious note though... I see little similarities between this team and the 94 canucks... that team was still led by a recent Vezina nominee, not an injury prone starter, who's stats are below average.

more than just the cycle ...

if you recall, they sucked that regular season ...They were terribly inconsistent, and finished the year with 85 points, only a .500 team. However, they still had the good core and they came together in the playoffs. I don't think it's dissimilar to this year -- except that they made moves to address the problem. They got rid of that ********* Nedved, brought in Jeff Brown and Marty Gelinas...
And let's remember that despite how much Cap'n Kirk was the man, he and his GAA north of 3.0 and SV south of .900 were not above the type of scrutiny regularly heaped on ol' Dan ...and prior to 94, he had little more playoff success, Vezina contention or no.

I think the situation is really quite similar, except that now we legitimately have the core pieces in place, but just need to find the right supporting elements -- hence expectations and frustrations being so much higher ...

more than just the cycle ...

if you recall, they sucked that regular season ...They were terribly inconsistent, and finished the year with 85 points, only a .500 team. However, they still had the good core and they came together in the playoffs. I don't think it's dissimilar to this year -- except that they made moves to address the problem. They got rid of that ********* Nedved, brought in Jeff Brown and Marty Gelinas...
And let's remember that despite how much Cap'n Kirk was the man, he and his GAA north of 3.0 and SV south of .900 were not above the type of scrutiny regularly heaped on ol' Dan ...and prior to 94, he had little more playoff success, Vezina contention or no.

I think the situation is really quite similar, except that now we legitimately have the core pieces in place, but just need to find the right supporting elements -- hence expectations and frustrations being so much higher ...

EDIT: what the hell? can't say d_ouchebag? Geez ...that's not one of Mr' Carlin's famous 7 words ...

since we're all just kind of venting...

Has anyone else noticed that the Canucks aren't even EXCITING anymore? It seems like all their games are pretty boring compared to the rest of the league. What happened to that 'firewagon' brand of hockey the Canucks supposedly play? Blah.

not everyone thinks it's panic time in Vancouver:

http://www.nhl.com/features/northwest112705.html



wow talk about a totally different perspective than the majority view here... mind you this was before the losses to the Avs and Coyotes, but I think for the most part, people agree that the problems aren't new, rather the lack of effort has been there since game 1.



:biglaugh:

I never like NHL.com's articles. They always seem completely out there and uninformed, pretty much only looking at Statistics. It's like the author sits down to write it at 12 AM the night before (being in University, i'm familiar with this concept ;))

Why don't some of you guys do what I do. Not post on the boards until a day or two after a bad loss. It will drastically eliminate all of the hot headed non-sense. If you think this will be our last embarrassing loss of the season even if we did make all these suggested changes tonight (fire Crow, trade a big part of the core/future for Luongo, etc.), u are mistaken.

When we have real problems (ie Boston, St.Louis, San Jose) then we can begin the headhunting, for now try and look ahead to a good rematch on Wednesday. As you can see im not posting any comments on the game itself, too many negative thoughts at the moment.

Cheers.
Agreed! - but it was fun to read some of the stuff here nonetheless. :D