Fedoruk gets 3 games

190Octane
11-23-2005, 04:38 PM
League still reviewing Gauthier's hits.

McDonald19
11-23-2005, 04:42 PM
looks like Gauthier and Doan are each fined $1,500...Gauthier may still get a suspension but no suspension for Doan.

I like how the league makes a new instigator suspension rule and then doesn't enforce it. :shakehead

Puck33
11-23-2005, 04:47 PM
Anybody got a clip of this incident?

190Octane
11-23-2005, 04:49 PM
He'll be back just in time for the Coyotes on the 30th.

McDonald19
11-23-2005, 04:51 PM
Anybody got a clip of this incident?

http://www.hockeyfights.com/videos/

Dirk316
11-23-2005, 04:53 PM
Fedoruk imo just earned a contract extension

190Octane
11-23-2005, 05:04 PM
And a s*** load of respect from his teammates.

caliamad
11-23-2005, 05:15 PM
I know they waived Gretzky's fine... ok whatever...

But Doan should get at least a 1 game suspension and Guathier should get at least what Fedoruk got... he mad 2 or 3 high hits that game... they were as bad as Fedoruk's...

I'm glad Burke is our GM because if its not equal they'll be hearing about it...

I'm hoping we keep Fedoruk as well... he can hit, skate and definitely fight... he's not afraid to sit front of the net either...

definitely worth the pick we gave up for him.

BowDown2Chistov
11-23-2005, 05:21 PM
I just caught the replay of the game, I got home last night like 2minutes after the hit and Fedoruk is my new favorite player rite now, he hit nedved back to pittsbergh. an eye for an eye, any update on lupal?

Dogbert
11-23-2005, 06:09 PM
Sorry, guys. Gauthier's hits were close to clean, but Fedoruk's was not. Things are shaking down EXACTLY as they should.

Danny__K
11-23-2005, 06:11 PM
Sorry, guys. Gauthier's hits were close to clean, but Fedoruk's was not. Things are shaking down EXACTLY as they should.

yep, i think Fedoruk should have got more like 10 rather then 3.

Puck33
11-23-2005, 06:15 PM
I have read on some other boards that doan will not be suspended and gretzky will not be fined?? they make all these new rules and colin campbell just drives right around them for wayne?

http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/11/244654.html

richardn
11-23-2005, 06:23 PM
The key here is Fedoruk's hit was pre-meditacted. The league is trying to prevent future Bertuzzi incidents. I feel he should have gotten at least 8 games. A flying elbow to the head. Nedved was a sitting duck. :shakehead

Puck33
11-23-2005, 06:25 PM
The key here is Fedoruk's hit was pre-meditacted. The league is trying to prevent future Bertuzzi incidents. I feel he should have gotten at least 8 games. A flying elbow to the head. Nedved was a sitting duck. :shakehead


I agree but the Gauthier hit wasn't much better...

Silver
11-23-2005, 06:27 PM
I have read on some other boards that doan will not be suspended and gretzky will not be fined?? they make all these new rules and colin campbell just drives right around them for wayne?

http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/11/244654.html

The rule was to stop guys like Hartley from gooning it up in the last five minutes of a game. This wasn't the same situation, and I think fining Gretzky is not what the rule intended.

Now, if Gauthier gets away with just a $1500 fine, I'll raise an eyebrow...

richardn
11-23-2005, 06:30 PM
I agree but the Gauthier hit wasn't much better...

Gautier's hit looked much cleaner. It wasn't pre-meditated either. He took a shot because Lupel was vulnarable and that is how Gautier plays. Take out the instagator and this is solved before it ever gets to the innocent Nedved. Gautier needs a shi! kicking to make him think twice about questionable hits. It was border line questionable for a penalty, Lupel had his head down.

Puck33
11-23-2005, 06:30 PM
The rule was to stop guys like Hartley from gooning it up in the last five minutes of a game. This wasn't the same situation, and I think fining Gretzky is not what the rule intended.

Now, if Gauthier gets away with just a $1500 fine, I'll raise an eyebrow...


Ahhh i just noticed doans instigator was 21 seconds shy of the 5 min mark.

Puck33
11-23-2005, 06:31 PM
Gautier's hit looked much cleaner. It wasn't pre-meditated either. He took a shot because Lupel was vulnarable and that is how Gautier plays. Take out the instagator and this is solved before it ever gets to the innocent Nedved. Gautier needs a shi! kicking to make him think twice about questionable hits. It was border line questionable for a penalty, Lupel had his head down.

Ask Lupel if it was clean lol, but looking at it again i thing lupul hit his head on the boards after the hit.

MXD
11-23-2005, 07:09 PM
In addition of his 3 game suspension, Fedoruk would have deserved 3 or 4 head butts by Sean O'Donnell, and 7-8 if Odonnel would have had withdrawn his helmet...

McDonald19
11-23-2005, 07:27 PM
In addition of his 3 game suspension, Fedoruk would have deserved 3 or 4 head butts by Sean O'Donnell, and 7-8 if Odonnel would have had withdrawn his helmet...

All O'Donnell wanted to do was hug Fedoruk, he was doing everything he could to not trade punches with the Fridge. O'Donnell knew he was overmatched.

richardn
11-23-2005, 07:28 PM
In addition of his 3 game suspension, Fedoruk would have deserved 3 or 4 head butts by Sean O'Donnell, and 7-8 if Odonnel would have had withdrawn his helmet...

Or they could have just let Havlat give him a kick in the nuts.

McDonald19
11-23-2005, 07:29 PM
Ahhh i just noticed doans instigator was 21 seconds shy of the 5 min mark.

what? Doans instigator was at the end of the game.

Cambell is saying there is a double standard and if its a team captain or other well know player he is allowed to instigate a fight whenever, but enforcers cannot instigate fights in the final 5 minutes.

This gives the green light for Jarome Iginla or Joe Thornton or any other captain or assistant captain to beat the crap out of anyone they want at the end of the game and not be suspended.

McDonald19
11-23-2005, 07:30 PM
Sorry, guys. Gauthier's hits were close to clean, but Fedoruk's was not. Things are shaking down EXACTLY as they should.

close to clean? Any elbow to the head is not clean. Both hits by Gauthier were suspendable hits in my opinion.

Jerky Leclerc
11-23-2005, 07:33 PM
Doan got off because the NHL didn't want to fine Gretzky. He has too many friends in the right place.

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
11-24-2005, 12:53 AM
Gautier's hit looked much cleaner. It wasn't pre-meditated either. He took a shot because Lupel was vulnarable and that is how Gautier plays. Take out the instagator and this is solved before it ever gets to the innocent Nedved. Gautier needs a shi! kicking to make him think twice about questionable hits. It was border line questionable for a penalty, Lupel had his head down.

Fedoruk was sending a message to Gauthier. Gauthier goes out and makes hits like that because he takes out better players, and enforcers go after him. Pretty nice trade. However, this way, Fedoruk took out one of their stars. It's like an eye for an eye. Going after Gauthier is what Gauthier wants him to do, but going after Nedved makes him think twice about playing the way he plays. It's like if someone runs your goalie. You don't go fight him to teach him a lesson(although you may anyways), you go and run their goalie to send them a message. The suspension to Fedoruk was deserved, but I'd say it was well worth it.

Doan, OTOH, got off way too easily. I guess that'll happen with Gretz behind the bench.

Gwyddbwyll
11-24-2005, 01:40 AM
Gauthier's hits were right in front of the referee and on the puck carrier. They instantly signalled them clean. I'll take their calls over some armchair Duck fans.

Fedoruk on the other hand hurtled down the ice headhunting. It was a pretty contemptible act.

And why should his illegal actions make Gauthier change from being a tough defenseman playing within the rules? The league has failed if it does.

Burke's Evil Spirit
11-24-2005, 01:42 AM
The decision to fine coaches and suspend players for the losing team instigating a brawl in the final 5 minutes was designed to curb the time-honored strategy of icing your goons in the dying minutes of a blow-out (I'm looking at you, Bob Hartley). Wayne Gretzky putting Shane Doan on the ice at the end of a game down one goal clearly isn't an example of this.

As for Fedoruk's suspension, I feel it's motivated much more by the sound bite than the act itself. I'm sure the NHL doesn't want comments like that circulating in the post-Bertuzzi era.

Spankatola Jamnuts
11-24-2005, 02:52 AM
Agreed. If he'd have shut up he'd be playing Friday IMO.

FireStevensDotCom
11-24-2005, 03:25 AM
Fedoruk probably "only" got 3 games because Nedved wasnt seriously hurt.
BUT Fedoruk did do what should be done, if he feels that Gauthier was running his teammmates and nothing was being done about it by the game officials then he did what he had to do.
Right or wrong this is what I have allways liked about the guy when he was in Philly. He is going to stick up for his teammates and do what ever is necessary to send a message. Something that the so called enforcer we have now fails to do.

Randall Graves*
11-24-2005, 03:30 AM
Sorry, guys. Gauthier's hits were close to clean, but Fedoruk's was not. Things are shaking down EXACTLY as they should.
Yeah, his hit's on Marchant and Lupul were soooo clean.

richardn
11-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Fedoruk was sending a message to Gauthier. Gauthier goes out and makes hits like that because he takes out better players, and enforcers go after him. Pretty nice trade. However, this way, Fedoruk took out one of their stars. It's like an eye for an eye. Going after Gauthier is what Gauthier wants him to do, but going after Nedved makes him think twice about playing the way he plays. It's like if someone runs your goalie. You don't go fight him to teach him a lesson(although you may anyways), you go and run their goalie to send them a message. The suspension to Fedoruk was deserved, but I'd say it was well worth it.

Doan, OTOH, got off way too easily. I guess that'll happen with Gretz behind the bench.


Doan's actions are being blown out of proprotion. Gretz never sent Doan out there to goon it up. Doan is their best player, the game ended with lots of frustration and it wasn't a sucker punch, cheap shot maybe but it was provoked. Burke on the other hand should be really carefull with the Bertuzzi incident hanging over his head. This is the last thing Burke needs. Fedoruk is an idiot for saying he did it for revenge. That sentence alone should have got him a minimum 8 game suspension and fine by the league. Gautier's hit was clean, cheap shot yes there was no elbow, heck the league would have suspended Gautier if it wasn't clean. I think the league needs to crack down on shots to the head though to prevent things like this from happening. Gautier's hit was no different then Stevens hit on Lindros. Lupel should have had his head up.

Lyons71
11-24-2005, 04:51 PM
Doan's actions are being blown out of proprotion. Gretz never sent Doan out there to goon it up. Doan is their best player, the game ended with lots of frustration and it wasn't a sucker punch, cheap shot maybe but it was provoked. Burke on the other hand should be really carefull with the Bertuzzi incident hanging over his head. This is the last thing Burke needs. Fedoruk is an idiot for saying he did it for revenge. That sentence alone should have got him a minimum 8 game suspension and fine by the league. Gautier's hit was clean, cheap shot yes there was no elbow, heck the league would have suspended Gautier if it wasn't clean. I think the league needs to crack down on shots to the head though to prevent things like this from happening. Gautier's hit was no different then Stevens hit on Lindros. Lupel should have had his head up.

First of all, Vish didn't do anything to provoke Doan deciding to start punching him.

Second, it's hard to have your head any more up than lupul did, especially when a guy reaches up to elbow you.

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
11-24-2005, 06:07 PM
Doan's actions are being blown out of proprotion. Gretz never sent Doan out there to goon it up. Doan is their best player, the game ended with lots of frustration and it wasn't a sucker punch, cheap shot maybe but it was provoked. Burke on the other hand should be really carefull with the Bertuzzi incident hanging over his head. This is the last thing Burke needs. Fedoruk is an idiot for saying he did it for revenge. That sentence alone should have got him a minimum 8 game suspension and fine by the league. Gautier's hit was clean, cheap shot yes there was no elbow, heck the league would have suspended Gautier if it wasn't clean. I think the league needs to crack down on shots to the head though to prevent things like this from happening. Gautier's hit was no different then Stevens hit on Lindros. Lupel should have had his head up.

I agree Doan wasn't out there to goon it up, and that's why I'm not calling for Gretz to get a fine, but Doan trying to goon it up as the game ends definetely deserved a fine.

richardn
11-24-2005, 09:01 PM
First of all, Vish didn't do anything to provoke Doan deciding to start punching him.

Second, it's hard to have your head any more up than lupul did, especially when a guy reaches up to elbow you.

Watch the video again. Its a good thing you don't work for the NHL reviewing plays.

Professor John Frink
11-24-2005, 11:32 PM
Watch the video again. Its a good thing you don't work for the NHL reviewing plays.

Well look anyone that saw it wouldn't say that Vish wasn't deserving of something. But if thats the case fine. Penalize him, give him a 2 minute penalty, but no way can what Doan did be justified by a slash. That happens every day in every game in the NHL.

Doan was deserving of a game suspension. As per the rules of the game.