Salei on the Block for a Center?

DUCKS NOT DONE DEALING?THE SCORE: (http://forecaster.ca/thescore/hockey/news.cgi?dailyslate) reports Anaheim Mighty Ducks GM Brian Burke may not be done dealing in the wake of his shipping high-priced center Sergei Fedorov to the Columbus Blue Jackets. The site suggests veteran blueliner Ruslan Salei "could be sacrificed" if Burke decides to shop for a centre.

Spector's Note: Burke is clearly putting his stamp on the Ducks and it'll be interesting to see what further moves he makes.

Anything to this? How is Salei playing this year?

Allison & Ponikarovsky for Salei and a 2nd?

No. Allison is not a Burke type of player.

No. Allison is not a Burke type of player.

Ummm how's that? He's big, he's physical and he brings offense (well, used to atleast). In fact I'd say he's pretty damn Burkeish -player.

He's one more injury away from an abrupt end. If a gust of wind comes his way it might end his career. He is not a Burke player simply in the fact that Burke isn't stupid. Why deal Salei for a non-asset?

He's slow and injury prone, very injury prone infact. I really think Burke is going to see how the team reacts without Sergei. If they lose another game or two he pull the trigger on one more trade, I hope it isn't Rusty though but if it has to be a d-man Rusty is the one with the most trade value other than Carney but we can't lose Carney too.

This whole injury thing is not true. He missed 2 years because of a freak case of whiplash that had symptoms like concussion and it took them forever to figure out what the issue was. Now it is healed and there will not be a recurrence anymore than someone breaking their leg is more likely to break it again.

Prior to that he got kneed by Andy Sutton and had reconstructive surgery. It would happen to anyone. He has not missed a game this season. This whole thing about being 1 hit away is bogus versus any other player.

He's one more injury away from an abrupt end. If a gust of wind comes his way it might end his career. He is not a Burke player simply in the fact that Burke isn't stupid. Why deal Salei for a non-asset?
Salei is a UFA, Allison is a UFA, Ponikarovsky is the longer term asset.

Salei is a UFA, Allison is a UFA, Ponikarovsky is the longer term asset.

Nope, because he is ineffective.

This whole injury thing is not true. He missed 2 years because of a freak case of whiplash that had symptoms like concussion and it took them forever to figure out what the issue was. Now it is healed and there will not be a recurrence anymore than someone breaking their leg is more likely to break it again.

Prior to that he got kneed by Andy Sutton and had reconstructive surgery. It would happen to anyone. He has not missed a game this season. This whole thing about being 1 hit away is bogus versus any other player.

Yeah, reconstructive knee surgery is certainly not a long term concern.

Nope, because he is ineffective.
Why don't you just admit that you would not know Ponikarovsky if he skated over your hand. Not effective eh? Whatever.

Yeah, reconstructive knee surgery is certainly not a long term concern.Well, then I guess we can chalk him up with another 50-75 NHL players too. Long term concern? I thought we were talking about Allison being a UFA at the end of the year.

He's slow and injury prone, very injury prone infact. I really think Burke is going to see how the team reacts without Sergei. If they lose another game or two he pull the trigger on one more trade, I hope it isn't Rusty though but if it has to be a d-man Rusty is the one with the most trade value other than Carney but we can't lose Carney too.
Burke would look pretty stupid if he doesn't have something else lined up...he has 8 defensemen on this roster and no offense.

Why don't you just admit that you would not know Ponikarovsky if he skated over your hand. Not effective eh? Whatever.
Anaheim can't take on two forwards, maybe one, ponikarovsky would be useless to this team.

Well, then I guess we can chalk him up with another 50-75 NHL players too. Long term concern? I thought we were talking about Allison being a UFA at the end of the year.

Why rent a player for half a season when the team isn't going anywhere?

Why don't you just admit that you would not know Ponikarovsky if he skated over your hand. Not effective eh? Whatever.

I've seen him lots....and me no likey...6 points in 19 games, big but not physical...yeah he's great. We have a ton of 4th line wingers, please sell something else.

Why rent a player for half a season when the team isn't going anywhere?
I am just going on the rumors. It said that Burke might be looking for a center and Salei would be his angle. I like Salei but he is not going to get you Brad Richards, or a younger stud who is more than a year from a UFA. Teams are not giving those guys away unless the whole Columbus/Anaheim conspiracy was for Burke to claim Marchant when Columbus recalls him. But that is certainly grievance territory there from the NHLPA.

So, Allison is just starting to get his legs and he is already almost a point a game guy with about 16 minutes of ice time behind Lindros and Sundin. The Leafs have like 10 centers on the squad but need defensive help. Allison is expendable, Ponikarovsky has been rumored to sweeten a deal, and a 2 for 1 deal has been the rumor too. Meanwhile Anaheim has too many D men and Salei is a UFA at the end of the year and would fetch an asset in return.

Plus, now Anaheim would have lots of cap room with Salei and Fedorov gone. Meanwhile Ponikarovsky at 25 is now really becoming a player. And he is exactly the kind of kid that Burke loves. He skates great, big, physical, blistering shot, and now is just starting to put all the tools together.

Frankly, I don't like this trade from a Leaf perspective, but I was just putting together some of the rumors into a single proposal.

Meanwhile Ponikarovsky at 25 is now really becoming a player. And he is exactly the kind of kid that Burke loves. He skates great, big, physical, blistering shot, and now is just starting to put all the tools together.


We can't be watching the same player. He hardly ever uses his size effectively and couldn't find a teammate if he had a map and compass in his hands.

We can't be watching the same player. He hardly ever uses his size effectively and couldn't find a teammate if he had a map and compass in his hands.
You are right. I don't know who you are watching. He is very physical and really active on the forecheck and down low cycle. In the last game against NYR he made one play in particular on the half boards that was actually a hockey school video tape of how to use your body to separate the D man from the puck in the offensive zone. Also, his biggest criticism to date is that he does not shoot enough. He has a great shot but dishing it off. Quinn got in his ear and told him to shoot. Since then he is getting 4+ shots a game and has 3 goals in the last 4-5 games. He does not have great finishing skills, which makes him a third line winger, but he certainly is not a 4th liner.

Also, his biggest criticism to date is that he does not shoot enough. He has a great shot but dishing it off. Quinn got in his ear and told him to shoot.

He has 1 assist this year in 19 games. I can see why he was told to shoot more. I have many friends who are Leafs fans and their biggest knock on him is that he does not use his size effectively. I agree with them.

Also, his biggest criticism to date is that he does not shoot enough. He has a great shot...He does not have great finishing skills, which makes him a third line winger.

Contradictory. Argue for him all you wish, I do not like what I have seen. Neither of us can control our team's GM so it does not really matter what we think of the player. Enjoy him.

wasting time, you are living up to your moniker.

You are right. I don't know who you are watching. He is very physical and really active on the forecheck and down low cycle. In the last game against NYR he made one play in particular on the half boards that was actually a hockey school video tape of how to use your body to separate the D man from the puck in the offensive zone. Also, his biggest criticism to date is that he does not shoot enough. He has a great shot but dishing it off. Quinn got in his ear and told him to shoot. Since then he is getting 4+ shots a game and has 3 goals in the last 4-5 games. He does not have great finishing skills, which makes him a third line winger, but he certainly is not a 4th liner.

what are you doing in here :sarcasm:

I hope they dont trade Rusty, I thought he would stay a duck throughout his career. I think hes really underrated, but then again hes a UFA next year and might be asking for alot more money next year.

If they do trade to Toronto, Id rather get Steen or Stajan over Allison. Allison is too injury prone and is also a UFA at the end of this year. At least the younger guys have some value at the end of the season.

How about Stajan for Salei straight up?
And
Colin White for Dipenta/Kunitz/late pick or Witt for Sykora?

If they do trade to Toronto, Id rather get Steen or Stajan over Allison. Allison is too injury prone and is also a UFA at the end of this year. At least the younger guys have some value at the end of the season.

How about Stajan for Salei straight up?

Not trying be rude, but there is no way that would happen. Especially considering Salei is a UFA at the end of the year.

Burke on TSN said he is definately shopping so let's see what he has up his sleeve.

Anything to this? How is Salei playing this year?

Allison & Ponikarovsky for Salei and a 2nd?

Allison straight up for Salei.

Why do we need to trade a 2nd rd pick for Ponikarovsky?

Allison straight up for Salei.

Why do we need to trade a 2nd rd pick for Ponikarovsky?
I would have figured something like Allison for Salei and a 5th. Allison being a point a game guy and 2 million of his salary would not be paid by Anaheim, rather picked up by the NHL as part of the player reinstatement program. But when you throw Ponikarovsky in there under contract for 2 years and relatively inexpensive and a player just coming into his own now, then the pick goes from a 5th to a better one.

But when you throw Ponikarovsky in there under contract for 2 years and relatively inexpensive and a player just coming into his own now, then the pick goes from a 5th to a better one.

Well, don't throw in a player Anaheim doesn't need or want. We've got 3rd / 4th line guys coming out of our ears.

Well, don't throw in a player Anaheim doesn't need or want. We've got 3rd / 4th line guys coming out of our ears.If the deal ended up being Salei for Allison then I could live with it. Anaheim clearly gets the better player, but with the $4.5 million price tag few suitors in the NHL will be there for Allison so I take the deal.

Marshall and Beauchemin healthy scratches tonight.

Ducks will not be carrying 8 d-men all year and right now Salei makes the most sense to move.

His trade value is high his salary is movable and Vishnevski is ready to take his 2nd pairing spot.

Marshall and Beauchemin healthy scratches tonight.

Ducks will not be carrying 8 d-men all year and right now Salei makes the most sense to move.

His trade value is high his salary is movable and Vishnevski is ready to take his 2nd pairing spot.
Someone has to be going relatively soon, Before Ozolinsh made that bonehead play tonight I thought he looked good...salei is the obvious candidate to go, but perhaps Ozolinsh was being showcased.

Wow...who would have thought :sarcasm: ... a Leafs fan comes on here trying to move ''Poni'' who is in 1/2 of all Leafs proposals (read: 500,000+) and then gets offended when others don't think he is the man. :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Typical Leafs crap... gonna remember that guy as being "Wasting MY time".


btw- Duckers...Is it just me or is Getzlaf (one of my favourite young guns) really starting to look strong on face-offs?
Last year with the Hitmen he played alot of Wing... but still took and dominated alot of draws. I think he is going to clean alot of guys out this year.

btw- Duckers...Is it just me or is Getzlaf (one of my favourite young guns) really starting to look strong on face-offs?

Hard to tell since they don't let him take many draws. Pahlson took 30, Nieds and McDonald 13 each, and Getzlaf just 8. Did win 5 of them though.

Hard to tell since they don't let him take many draws. Pahlson took 30, Nieds and McDonald 13 each, and Getzlaf just 8. Did win 5 of them though.
God, look at that group of centers. Yikes.

God, look at that group of centers. Yikes.

Scary good right.....right....he...hellooo?

Anyone?

Burke on TSN said he is definately shopping so let's see what he has up his sleeve.


I'd like to see you guys get Oullette so it would free up Bryzgalov to be moved.

To Atlanta for Stefan

Not trying be rude, but there is no way that would happen. Especially considering Salei is a UFA at the end of the year.


I'm a Ducks fan and you're absolutely right.

I'd like to see you guys get Oullette so it would free up Bryzgalov to be moved.

To Atlanta for Stefan

the only way Bryz goes anywhere is home to Russia. Does Hartley need a major headcase after dealing with Heatley's PR.