ECHL Affiliations

Pens Fan
10-11-2003, 07:00 PM
I was wondering since i cant seem to find it anywhere. What if any do the teams in the ECHL have with the NHL. I know not all of them have any so any informations or links to this is appreciated.

Quellet The Dogs Out
10-11-2003, 07:42 PM
AC Boardwalk Bullies
No Affiliations

Cinci. Cyclones
No Affiliations

Dayton Bombers
Columbus Blue Jackets (NHL)
Syracuse Crunch (AHL)

Johnstown Chiefs
San Jose Sharks (NHL)
Cleveland Barons (AHL)

Peoria Rivermen
St. Louis Blues (NHL)
Worcester Ice Cats (AHL)

Reading Royals
LA Kings (NHL)
Manchester Monarchs (AHL)

Toledo Storm
Detroit Red Wings (NHL)

Trenton Titans
Philadelphia Flyers (NHL)
New York Islanders (NHL)
Philadelphia Phantoms (AHL)
Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)

Wheeling Nailers
Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL)
Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins (AHL)

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Charlotte Checkers
New York Rangers (NHL)
Hartford Wolfpack (AHL)

Columbia Inferno
Vancouver Canucks (NHL)
Manitoba Moose (AHL)

Florence Pride
Chicago Blackhawks (NHL)
Norfolk Admirals (AHL)

Florida Everblades
Carolina Hurricanes (NHL)
Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL)
Plymouth Whalers (CHL)

Greensboro Generals
Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL)
St. Johns Maple Leafs (AHL)

Greenville Grrrowl
No Affiliations

Roanoke Express
No Affiliations (web site is down)

South Carolina Stingrays
No Affiliations

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Augusta Lynx
Florida Panthers (NHL)
San Antonio Rampage (AHL)

Columbus Cottonmouths
No Affiliations

Gwinnett Gladiators
No Affiliations

Louisiana IceGators
No Affiliations

Mississippi Sea Wolves
No Affiliations

Pensacola Ice Pilots
Springfield Falcons (AHL)

Texas Wildcatters
No Affiliations

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Alaska Aces
No Affiliations

Bakersfield Condors
No Affiliations

Fresno Falcons
San Jose Sharks (NHL)
Cleveland Barons (AHL)

Idaho Steelheads
Dallas Stars (NHL)
Utah Grizzlies (AHL)

Las Vegas Wranglers
No Affiliations

Long Beach Ice Dogs
No Affiliations - site is down

San Diego Gulls
Hershey Bears (AHL)

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BY NO MEANS IS ANY OF THIS OFFICIAL INFORMATION. I just went to every team site and looked for any affiliation information. If I didn't see anything, I assumed there was no information.

Boy was that a lot of work for one post.

golfmade
10-11-2003, 08:19 PM
Quellet - the Steelheads NHL affiliate is Dallas, AHL is Salt Lake Link (http://www.idahosteelheads.com/read_more.cfm?pressID=3)

CHRDANHUTCH
10-11-2003, 08:34 PM
AC Boardwalk Bullies
No Affiliations

Cinci. Cyclones
No Affiliations

Dayton Bombers
Columbus Blue Jackets (NHL)
Syracuse Crunch (AHL)

Johnstown Chiefs
No Affiliations

Peoria Rivermen
St. Louis Blues (NHL)
Worcester Ice Cats (AHL)

Reading Royals
LA Kings (NHL)
Manchester Monarchs (AHL)

Toledo Storm
Detroit Red Wings (NHL)

Trenton Titans
Philadelphia Flyers (NHL)
New York Islanders (NHL)
Philadelphia Phantoms (AHL)
Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL)

Wheeling Nailers
Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL)
Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins (AHL)

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Charlotte Checkers
New York Rangers (NHL)
Hartford Wolfpack (AHL)

Columbia Inferno
Vancouver Canucks (NHL)
Manitoba Moose (AHL)

Florence Pride
Chicago Blackhawks (NHL)
Norfolk Admirals (AHL)

Florida Everblades
Carolina Hurricanes (NHL)
Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL)
Plymouth Whalers (AHL)

Greensboro Generals
Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL)
St. Johns Maple Leafs (AHL)

Greenville Grrrowl
No Affiliations

Roanoke Express
No Affiliations (web site is down)

South Carolina Stingrays
No Affiliations

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Augusta Lynx
Florida Panthers (NHL)
San Antonio Rampage (AHL)

Columbus Cottonmouths
No Affiliations

Gwinnett Gladiators
No Affiliations

Louisiana IceGators
No Affiliations

Mississippi Sea Wolves
No Affiliations

Pensacola Ice Pilots
No Affiliations

Texas Wildcatters
No Affiliations

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Alaska Aces
No Affiliations

Bakersfield Condors
No Affiliations

Fresno Falcons
San Jose Sharks (NHL)
Cleveland Barons (AHL)

Idaho Steelheads
No Affiliations

Las Vegas Wranglers
No Affiliations

Long Beach Ice Dogs
No Affiliations - site is down

San Diego Gulls
Hershey Bears (AHL)

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BY NO MEANS IS ANY OF THIS OFFICIAL INFORMATION. I just went to every team site and looked for any affiliation information. If I didn't see anything, I assumed there was no information.

Boy was that a lot of work for one post.


Springfield (AHL) has an affiliation w/ Pensacola.

SJ/Cleveland signed up with Johnstown and Fresno

DynamoAO
10-11-2003, 09:05 PM
"Plymouth Whalers (AHL)"

Wrong league cowboy. The Plymouth Whalers to my knowledge are CHL, OHL if I recall.

Ruckus007
10-12-2003, 11:36 AM
Roanoke was affiliated with Chicago last year, don't know if they still are.




Florida Everblades
Carolina Hurricanes (NHL)
Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL)
Plymouth Whalers (CHL)



Is this a typo or is an OHL team really affiliated with the ECHL?

CHRDANHUTCH
10-12-2003, 11:59 AM
Roanoke was affiliated with Chicago last year, don't know if they still are.




Florida Everblades
Carolina Hurricanes (NHL)
Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL)
Plymouth Whalers (CHL)



Is this a typo or is an OHL team really affiliated with the ECHL?

no, florence signed with the Hawks/Admirals

DynamoAO
10-12-2003, 12:30 PM
Even though you deleted my post. It is impossible for the Plymouth Whalers to be affiliated with a professional league.

fan75
10-12-2003, 06:11 PM
Even though you deleted my post. It is impossible for the Plymouth Whalers to be affiliated with a professional league.
I believe they are both owned by the same person, which would explain why they have links to each other's sites.

DynamoAO
10-12-2003, 07:06 PM
I believe they are both owned by the same person, which would explain why they have links to each other's sites.

But there is still no real "affiliation" correct?

fan75
10-12-2003, 08:31 PM
But there is still no real "affiliation" correct?
No, there's no affiliation between the two that I've ever heard about. Other then sharing owners.

Quellet The Dogs Out
10-13-2003, 11:49 AM
No, there's no affiliation between the two that I've ever heard about. Other then sharing owners.

Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links???

Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit.

Just confuses me a little bit.

DynamoAO
10-13-2003, 12:05 PM
Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links???

Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit.

Just confuses me a little bit.

You CANNOT have an affiliation between a Junior team and a PRO team. It just CANT happen.

Quellet The Dogs Out
10-13-2003, 12:11 PM
You CANNOT have an affiliation between a Junior team and a PRO team. It just CANT happen.

Why not? Couldn't there be something like once the junior season is over, and the players eligibility has expired that they would finish the season in the ECHL with Florida??

I have no idea, its just a thought - it is pointless to put it in the same line with the affiliates though.

fan75
10-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links???

Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit.

Just confuses me a little bit.
I agree it's rather silly to have them on the same line as the affiliates, however Plymouth also has the line with Carolina and Florida on their website and there's no way they are affiliated with the 'canes. Again other then having the same owner. Also, (according to hockeydb.com) the Everblades have only ever had 3 players who played for the Plymouth Whalers if I'm not mistaken. Robb Zepp, Shaun Fisher and Jared Newman. Of which Newman and Zepp were 'canes draftees.

Holly Gunning
10-13-2003, 06:21 PM
Back in the day, and I mean WAAAAY back, before the entry draft started, junior teams used to be allowed to be affiliated with NHL teams. It's been against the rules for some time now so that all teams have equal access to all players.

Teemu
10-13-2003, 06:36 PM
Chicago Blackhawks -> Norfolk Admirals -> Roanoke Express. The hawks are also affiliated with Indianopolis of the CHL

Quellet The Dogs Out
10-14-2003, 07:27 AM
The hawks are also affiliated with Indianopolis of the CHL

See there has to be some sort of legal way to do this...

Holly Gunning
10-14-2003, 07:46 AM
See there has to be some sort of legal way to do this... No, Indianapolis is in the Central Hockey League, an A level minor pro team. Not the same thing as the Canadian Hockey League.

Kevin Forbes
10-22-2003, 06:41 PM
The Mighty Ducks of Anahiem are now affiliated with the San Diego Gulls
as are the Cincinatti Mighty Ducks, I believe San Diego is no longer affiliated with Hershey as a result

Quellet The Dogs Out
10-22-2003, 06:57 PM
The Mighty Ducks of Anahiem are now affiliated with the San Diego Gulls
as are the Cincinatti Mighty Ducks, I believe San Diego is no longer affiliated with Hershey as a result

An ECHL can be affiliated with more than 1 AHL and NHL team;

Titans are affiliated with Binghamton Senators, Philadelphia Phantoms and the Springfield Falcons. They are affiliated with the Philadelphia Flyers this year, but last year they were affiliated with the Flyers and the New York Islanders.

Kevin Forbes
10-25-2003, 07:07 AM
I know that
but I still don't think San Diego is affiliated with Hershey any longer

HockeyGoddess
10-26-2003, 02:50 PM
Per the ECHL official information:

Independent ECHL clubs (no AHL *or* NHL affiliations):

Alaska Aces
Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies
Bakersfield Condors
Cincinnati Cyclones
Greensboro Generals
Greenville Grrrowl
Long Beach Ice Dogs
Mississippi Sea Wolves
Roanoke Express
Texas Wildcatters

The Las Vegas Wranglers have no AHL affiliate, but their NHL affiliate is the Calgary Flames.

ECHL Team - AHL Affiliate - NHL Affiliate
Augusta Lynx - San Antonio Rampage - Florida Panthers
Charlotte Checkers - Hartford Wolf Pack - New York Rangers
Columbia Inferno - Manitoba Moose - Vancouver Canucks
Columbus Cottonmouths - Toronto Roadrunners & Hamilton Bulldogs - Edmonton Oilers & Montreal Canadiens
Dayton Bombers - Syracuse Crunch - Columbus Blue Jackets
Florence Pride - Norfolk Admirals - Chicago Blackhawks
Florida Everblades - Lowell Lock Monsters - Carolina Hurricanes
Fresno Falcons - Cleveland Barons - San Jose Sharks
Gwinnett Gladiators - Chicago Wolves - Atlanta Thrashers
Idaho Steelheads - Utah Grizzlies - Dallas Stars
Johnstown Chiefs - Cleveland Barons - San Jose Sharks
Louisiana Ice Gators - Houston Aeros - Minnesota Wild
Pensacola Ice Pilots - Springfield Falcons - Tampa Bay Lightning
Peoria Rivermen - Worcester IceCats - St. Louis Blues
Reading Royals - Manchester Monarchs - Los Angeles Kings
San Diego Gulls - Cincinnati Mighty Ducks - Mighty Ducks of Anaheim
South Carolina Stingrays - Toronto Roadrunners - Edmonton Oilers
Toledo Storm - Grand Rapids Griffins & Milwaukee Admirals - Detroit Red Wings & Nashville Predators
Trenton Titans - Binghamton Senators & Philadelphia Phantoms - Philadelphia Flyers
Wheeling Nailers - Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins - Pittsburgh Penguins

MarkovForNorris
10-26-2003, 06:24 PM
Actually, I believe the Long Beach Ice Dogs are the Montreal Canadiens' affiliate, and also AHL's Hamilton Bulldogs affiliate. Three Habs prospects (defenseman Matt Shasby, goalie Olivier Michaud and forward Jerome Marois) have all been sent down to Long Beach earlier this week, if I'm not mistaken.

Holly Gunning
10-26-2003, 06:35 PM
Well, on the official game notes from today, Montreal is still listed as an affiliate of Columbus. Plus Michaud and Shasby are both assigned there and played. No sign of Marois. Michaud was very good in the shootout.

HockeyGoddess
10-27-2003, 06:13 AM
Actually, I believe the Long Beach Ice Dogs are the Montreal Canadiens' affiliate, and also AHL's Hamilton Bulldogs affiliate. Three Habs prospects (defenseman Matt Shasby, goalie Olivier Michaud and forward Jerome Marois) have all been sent down to Long Beach earlier this week, if I'm not mistaken.

Not unless this happened just last night. The ECHL official site lists the Long Beach Ice Dogs as independent/no affiliation with any AHL or NHL club.

Teams are able to send prospects to AHL/ECHL teams that aren't affiliated with them if their affiliated team has a full roster already. There's also the possibility of the question of which ECHL team owns the player's rights. The NHL club may own the NHL/AHL rights to the player, but it's possible that the player may have signed an ECHL contract with a different team at some point, thus his rights aren't owned by the ECHL affiliate of the NHL club.