Pens Fan
10-11-2003, 07:00 PM
I was wondering since i cant seem to find it anywhere. What if any do the teams in the ECHL have with the NHL. I know not all of them have any so any informations or links to this is appreciated.
ECHL AffiliationsPens Fan 10-11-2003, 07:00 PM I was wondering since i cant seem to find it anywhere. What if any do the teams in the ECHL have with the NHL. I know not all of them have any so any informations or links to this is appreciated. Quellet The Dogs Out 10-11-2003, 07:42 PM AC Boardwalk Bullies No Affiliations Cinci. Cyclones No Affiliations Dayton Bombers Columbus Blue Jackets (NHL) Syracuse Crunch (AHL) Johnstown Chiefs San Jose Sharks (NHL) Cleveland Barons (AHL) Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues (NHL) Worcester Ice Cats (AHL) Reading Royals LA Kings (NHL) Manchester Monarchs (AHL) Toledo Storm Detroit Red Wings (NHL) Trenton Titans Philadelphia Flyers (NHL) New York Islanders (NHL) Philadelphia Phantoms (AHL) Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) Wheeling Nailers Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL) Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins (AHL) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Charlotte Checkers New York Rangers (NHL) Hartford Wolfpack (AHL) Columbia Inferno Vancouver Canucks (NHL) Manitoba Moose (AHL) Florence Pride Chicago Blackhawks (NHL) Norfolk Admirals (AHL) Florida Everblades Carolina Hurricanes (NHL) Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL) Plymouth Whalers (CHL) Greensboro Generals Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL) St. Johns Maple Leafs (AHL) Greenville Grrrowl No Affiliations Roanoke Express No Affiliations (web site is down) South Carolina Stingrays No Affiliations -------------------------------------------------------------------- Augusta Lynx Florida Panthers (NHL) San Antonio Rampage (AHL) Columbus Cottonmouths No Affiliations Gwinnett Gladiators No Affiliations Louisiana IceGators No Affiliations Mississippi Sea Wolves No Affiliations Pensacola Ice Pilots Springfield Falcons (AHL) Texas Wildcatters No Affiliations -------------------------------------------------------------------- Alaska Aces No Affiliations Bakersfield Condors No Affiliations Fresno Falcons San Jose Sharks (NHL) Cleveland Barons (AHL) Idaho Steelheads Dallas Stars (NHL) Utah Grizzlies (AHL) Las Vegas Wranglers No Affiliations Long Beach Ice Dogs No Affiliations - site is down San Diego Gulls Hershey Bears (AHL) -------------------------------------------------------------------- BY NO MEANS IS ANY OF THIS OFFICIAL INFORMATION. I just went to every team site and looked for any affiliation information. If I didn't see anything, I assumed there was no information. Boy was that a lot of work for one post. golfmade 10-11-2003, 08:19 PM Quellet - the Steelheads NHL affiliate is Dallas, AHL is Salt Lake Link (http://www.idahosteelheads.com/read_more.cfm?pressID=3) CHRDANHUTCH 10-11-2003, 08:34 PM AC Boardwalk Bullies No Affiliations Cinci. Cyclones No Affiliations Dayton Bombers Columbus Blue Jackets (NHL) Syracuse Crunch (AHL) Johnstown Chiefs No Affiliations Peoria Rivermen St. Louis Blues (NHL) Worcester Ice Cats (AHL) Reading Royals LA Kings (NHL) Manchester Monarchs (AHL) Toledo Storm Detroit Red Wings (NHL) Trenton Titans Philadelphia Flyers (NHL) New York Islanders (NHL) Philadelphia Phantoms (AHL) Bridgeport Sound Tigers (AHL) Wheeling Nailers Pittsburgh Penguins (NHL) Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins (AHL) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Charlotte Checkers New York Rangers (NHL) Hartford Wolfpack (AHL) Columbia Inferno Vancouver Canucks (NHL) Manitoba Moose (AHL) Florence Pride Chicago Blackhawks (NHL) Norfolk Admirals (AHL) Florida Everblades Carolina Hurricanes (NHL) Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL) Plymouth Whalers (AHL) Greensboro Generals Toronto Maple Leafs (NHL) St. Johns Maple Leafs (AHL) Greenville Grrrowl No Affiliations Roanoke Express No Affiliations (web site is down) South Carolina Stingrays No Affiliations -------------------------------------------------------------------- Augusta Lynx Florida Panthers (NHL) San Antonio Rampage (AHL) Columbus Cottonmouths No Affiliations Gwinnett Gladiators No Affiliations Louisiana IceGators No Affiliations Mississippi Sea Wolves No Affiliations Pensacola Ice Pilots No Affiliations Texas Wildcatters No Affiliations -------------------------------------------------------------------- Alaska Aces No Affiliations Bakersfield Condors No Affiliations Fresno Falcons San Jose Sharks (NHL) Cleveland Barons (AHL) Idaho Steelheads No Affiliations Las Vegas Wranglers No Affiliations Long Beach Ice Dogs No Affiliations - site is down San Diego Gulls Hershey Bears (AHL) -------------------------------------------------------------------- BY NO MEANS IS ANY OF THIS OFFICIAL INFORMATION. I just went to every team site and looked for any affiliation information. If I didn't see anything, I assumed there was no information. Boy was that a lot of work for one post. Springfield (AHL) has an affiliation w/ Pensacola. SJ/Cleveland signed up with Johnstown and Fresno DynamoAO 10-11-2003, 09:05 PM "Plymouth Whalers (AHL)" Wrong league cowboy. The Plymouth Whalers to my knowledge are CHL, OHL if I recall. Ruckus007 10-12-2003, 11:36 AM Roanoke was affiliated with Chicago last year, don't know if they still are. Florida Everblades Carolina Hurricanes (NHL) Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL) Plymouth Whalers (CHL) Is this a typo or is an OHL team really affiliated with the ECHL? CHRDANHUTCH 10-12-2003, 11:59 AM Roanoke was affiliated with Chicago last year, don't know if they still are. Florida Everblades Carolina Hurricanes (NHL) Lowell Lockmonsters (AHL) Plymouth Whalers (CHL) Is this a typo or is an OHL team really affiliated with the ECHL? no, florence signed with the Hawks/Admirals DynamoAO 10-12-2003, 12:30 PM Even though you deleted my post. It is impossible for the Plymouth Whalers to be affiliated with a professional league. fan75 10-12-2003, 06:11 PM Even though you deleted my post. It is impossible for the Plymouth Whalers to be affiliated with a professional league. I believe they are both owned by the same person, which would explain why they have links to each other's sites. DynamoAO 10-12-2003, 07:06 PM I believe they are both owned by the same person, which would explain why they have links to each other's sites. But there is still no real "affiliation" correct? fan75 10-12-2003, 08:31 PM But there is still no real "affiliation" correct? No, there's no affiliation between the two that I've ever heard about. Other then sharing owners. Quellet The Dogs Out 10-13-2003, 11:49 AM No, there's no affiliation between the two that I've ever heard about. Other then sharing owners. Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links??? Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit. Just confuses me a little bit. DynamoAO 10-13-2003, 12:05 PM Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links??? Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit. Just confuses me a little bit. You CANNOT have an affiliation between a Junior team and a PRO team. It just CANT happen. Quellet The Dogs Out 10-13-2003, 12:11 PM You CANNOT have an affiliation between a Junior team and a PRO team. It just CANT happen. Why not? Couldn't there be something like once the junior season is over, and the players eligibility has expired that they would finish the season in the ECHL with Florida?? I have no idea, its just a thought - it is pointless to put it in the same line with the affiliates though. fan75 10-13-2003, 05:26 PM Well then why would they be in the same line as the affiliates with logos/links??? Look on the main page (http://www.floridaeverblades.com/index2.asp) and scroll down a little bit. Just confuses me a little bit. I agree it's rather silly to have them on the same line as the affiliates, however Plymouth also has the line with Carolina and Florida on their website and there's no way they are affiliated with the 'canes. Again other then having the same owner. Also, (according to hockeydb.com) the Everblades have only ever had 3 players who played for the Plymouth Whalers if I'm not mistaken. Robb Zepp, Shaun Fisher and Jared Newman. Of which Newman and Zepp were 'canes draftees. Holly Gunning 10-13-2003, 06:21 PM Back in the day, and I mean WAAAAY back, before the entry draft started, junior teams used to be allowed to be affiliated with NHL teams. It's been against the rules for some time now so that all teams have equal access to all players. Teemu 10-13-2003, 06:36 PM Chicago Blackhawks -> Norfolk Admirals -> Roanoke Express. The hawks are also affiliated with Indianopolis of the CHL Quellet The Dogs Out 10-14-2003, 07:27 AM The hawks are also affiliated with Indianopolis of the CHL See there has to be some sort of legal way to do this... Holly Gunning 10-14-2003, 07:46 AM See there has to be some sort of legal way to do this... No, Indianapolis is in the Central Hockey League, an A level minor pro team. Not the same thing as the Canadian Hockey League. Kevin Forbes 10-22-2003, 06:41 PM The Mighty Ducks of Anahiem are now affiliated with the San Diego Gulls as are the Cincinatti Mighty Ducks, I believe San Diego is no longer affiliated with Hershey as a result Quellet The Dogs Out 10-22-2003, 06:57 PM The Mighty Ducks of Anahiem are now affiliated with the San Diego Gulls as are the Cincinatti Mighty Ducks, I believe San Diego is no longer affiliated with Hershey as a result An ECHL can be affiliated with more than 1 AHL and NHL team; Titans are affiliated with Binghamton Senators, Philadelphia Phantoms and the Springfield Falcons. They are affiliated with the Philadelphia Flyers this year, but last year they were affiliated with the Flyers and the New York Islanders. Kevin Forbes 10-25-2003, 07:07 AM I know that but I still don't think San Diego is affiliated with Hershey any longer HockeyGoddess 10-26-2003, 02:50 PM Per the ECHL official information: Independent ECHL clubs (no AHL *or* NHL affiliations): Alaska Aces Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies Bakersfield Condors Cincinnati Cyclones Greensboro Generals Greenville Grrrowl Long Beach Ice Dogs Mississippi Sea Wolves Roanoke Express Texas Wildcatters The Las Vegas Wranglers have no AHL affiliate, but their NHL affiliate is the Calgary Flames. ECHL Team - AHL Affiliate - NHL Affiliate Augusta Lynx - San Antonio Rampage - Florida Panthers Charlotte Checkers - Hartford Wolf Pack - New York Rangers Columbia Inferno - Manitoba Moose - Vancouver Canucks Columbus Cottonmouths - Toronto Roadrunners & Hamilton Bulldogs - Edmonton Oilers & Montreal Canadiens Dayton Bombers - Syracuse Crunch - Columbus Blue Jackets Florence Pride - Norfolk Admirals - Chicago Blackhawks Florida Everblades - Lowell Lock Monsters - Carolina Hurricanes Fresno Falcons - Cleveland Barons - San Jose Sharks Gwinnett Gladiators - Chicago Wolves - Atlanta Thrashers Idaho Steelheads - Utah Grizzlies - Dallas Stars Johnstown Chiefs - Cleveland Barons - San Jose Sharks Louisiana Ice Gators - Houston Aeros - Minnesota Wild Pensacola Ice Pilots - Springfield Falcons - Tampa Bay Lightning Peoria Rivermen - Worcester IceCats - St. Louis Blues Reading Royals - Manchester Monarchs - Los Angeles Kings San Diego Gulls - Cincinnati Mighty Ducks - Mighty Ducks of Anaheim South Carolina Stingrays - Toronto Roadrunners - Edmonton Oilers Toledo Storm - Grand Rapids Griffins & Milwaukee Admirals - Detroit Red Wings & Nashville Predators Trenton Titans - Binghamton Senators & Philadelphia Phantoms - Philadelphia Flyers Wheeling Nailers - Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins - Pittsburgh Penguins MarkovForNorris 10-26-2003, 06:24 PM Actually, I believe the Long Beach Ice Dogs are the Montreal Canadiens' affiliate, and also AHL's Hamilton Bulldogs affiliate. Three Habs prospects (defenseman Matt Shasby, goalie Olivier Michaud and forward Jerome Marois) have all been sent down to Long Beach earlier this week, if I'm not mistaken. Holly Gunning 10-26-2003, 06:35 PM Well, on the official game notes from today, Montreal is still listed as an affiliate of Columbus. Plus Michaud and Shasby are both assigned there and played. No sign of Marois. Michaud was very good in the shootout. HockeyGoddess 10-27-2003, 06:13 AM Actually, I believe the Long Beach Ice Dogs are the Montreal Canadiens' affiliate, and also AHL's Hamilton Bulldogs affiliate. Three Habs prospects (defenseman Matt Shasby, goalie Olivier Michaud and forward Jerome Marois) have all been sent down to Long Beach earlier this week, if I'm not mistaken. Not unless this happened just last night. The ECHL official site lists the Long Beach Ice Dogs as independent/no affiliation with any AHL or NHL club. Teams are able to send prospects to AHL/ECHL teams that aren't affiliated with them if their affiliated team has a full roster already. There's also the possibility of the question of which ECHL team owns the player's rights. The NHL club may own the NHL/AHL rights to the player, but it's possible that the player may have signed an ECHL contract with a different team at some point, thus his rights aren't owned by the ECHL affiliate of the NHL club. | ||