Malkin a no go for WJC's

ShadowFax
11-15-2005, 02:15 AM
Dont know if anyone else posted this, but Bob Mckenzie said on TSN that Malkin will probably not be playing because of his team and because of the Russian Hockey Federation wanting to rest him for the Olympics.

Transported Upstater
11-15-2005, 05:45 AM
Dont know if anyone else posted this, but Bob Mckenzie said on TSN that Malkin will probably not be playing because of his team and because of the Russian Hockey Federation wanting to rest him for the Olympics.


He's too good for that tournament anyways at this point.

McGuillicuddy
11-15-2005, 06:18 AM
It's too bad that the WJHC is not a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world, but rather, a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world not good enough to be playing in the NHL (or other professional leagues). It then becomes less about which country has the best hockey development program, and more about which country happens to have a some good players who are not quite ready for the pros.

Legionnaire
11-15-2005, 07:27 AM
He's too good for that tournament anyways at this point.

You mean just like he was too good to compete for the Calder this year?

Legionnaire
11-15-2005, 07:30 AM
It's too bad that the WJHC is not a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world, but rather, a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world not good enough to be playing in the NHL (or other professional leagues). It then becomes less about which country has the best hockey development program, and more about which country happens to have a some good players who are not quite ready for the pros.

Good point, but I can name a lot of times that a "junior" aged player was released to play in the tournament.

McGuillicuddy
11-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Good point, but I can name a lot of times that a "junior" aged player was released to play in the tournament.

Yes, but almost never the elite players i.e. Malkin and Sidney Crosby this year, Rick Nash in the 2004 tournament, etc.

Transported Upstater
11-15-2005, 03:13 PM
You mean just like he was too good to compete for the Calder this year?


I'm just saying he wouldn't have much to gain by playing in that tournament. He's playing against excellent players right now, and will be playing against the world's best in Torino.

He's also already played that tournament (the U-20's) several times, if I'm not mistaken.



Crosby and Ovechkin are both better than that tournament has to offer right now, and Malkin isn't that far behind Ovechkin in my opinion.

(Ovechkin, however, isn't eligible anyways.)

tom_servo
11-15-2005, 03:40 PM
I think it was Jacobv2 who made the point that Malkin could only disappoint, as expectations from him would be nothing less than domination.

I see this as the right move. Let him save himself for the big dance.

MentalPowerHouse
11-15-2005, 03:40 PM
It's too bad that the WJHC is not a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world, but rather, a tournament of the best junior-aged players in the world not good enough to be playing in the NHL (or other professional leagues). It then becomes less about which country has the best hockey development program, and more about which country happens to have a some good players who are not quite ready for the pros.

No point worrying about that, just enjoy it cause its still amazing hockey.

Transported Upstater
11-15-2005, 03:46 PM
I think it was Jacobv2 who made the point that Malkin could only disappoint, as expectations from him would be nothing less than domination.

I see this as the right move. Let him save himself for the big dance.


Exactly.

wilka91*
11-15-2005, 03:53 PM
Dont know if anyone else posted this, but Bob Mckenzie said on TSN that Malkin will probably not be playing because of his team and because of the Russian Hockey Federation wanting to rest him for the Olympics.

is that news? I heard that 2 months ago

McGuillicuddy
11-15-2005, 04:54 PM
No point worrying about that, just enjoy it cause its still amazing hockey.

That is true. I usually enjoy the WJHC more than any other hockey played all year. :thumbu:

McGuillicuddy
11-15-2005, 04:55 PM
is that news? I heard that 2 months ago

Congratulations?

clefty
11-15-2005, 04:57 PM
If he were to play in all tournaments, including his own clubs games and potential playoff games, he'd apparently play something well in excess of 100 games. Thats something to consider as well.

The Olympics are the big one. The plan was not to play in this tournament all along.

Zine
11-15-2005, 05:08 PM
I don't know if he's a lock for the olympics just yet. Depending on who's injured or declines an invite, Malkin might be the 5th center behind Fedorov, Datsyuk, Yashin and Zhamnov.

futurcorerock
11-15-2005, 05:11 PM
The Russians need all the help they can get in Torino

banana phone
11-15-2005, 05:12 PM
I don't know if he's a lock for the olympics just yet. Depending on who's injured or declines an invite, Malkin might be the 5th center behind Fedorov, Datsyuk, Yashin and Zhamnov.
Malkin will be on the team.

wilka91*
11-15-2005, 05:14 PM
I don't know if he's a lock for the olympics just yet. Depending on who's injured or declines an invite, Malkin might be the 5th center behind Fedorov, Datsyuk, Yashin and Zhamnov.

he's a lock for the Olympics

joe_shannon_1983*
11-15-2005, 05:16 PM
Dont know if anyone else posted this, but Bob Mckenzie said on TSN that Malkin will probably not be playing because of his team and because of the Russian Hockey Federation wanting to rest him for the Olympics.

Malkin in the Olympics? Isn't it a bit too soon to be putting Malkin in the Olympics?

Is he good enough as of right now? Is he developed enough?

Transported Upstater
11-15-2005, 05:21 PM
Malkin in the Olympics? Isn't it a bit too soon to be putting Malkin in the Olympics?

Is he good enough as of right now? Is he developed enough?



Both Malkin and Ovechkin have played for Team Russia in the WC's and World Cup, if I'm not mistaken.

sunb
11-15-2005, 05:25 PM
I don't know if he's a lock for the olympics just yet. Depending on who's injured or declines an invite, Malkin might be the 5th center behind Fedorov, Datsyuk, Yashin and Zhamnov.

Team Russia can easily convert a guy like Datsyuk or Zhamnov to the wing. Malkin is one of Russia's best players, he will play.

Malkin is, by the way, playing and playing excellent hockey. Zhamnov has been injured and has been held pointless in the two games he has played. He isn't as good as he used to be whereas Malkin has 22 points in 22 games and is a bona fide star in the RSL. Ovechkin only had 27 points in 37 games last season. If it came down to Zhamnov and Malkin, Malkin would easily make the team over Zhamnov.

Even if Zhamnov is slightly better, Russia will elect to go with Malkin, since he is only 19. Zhamnov basically offers Team Russia an one shot deal. A 19 year old Malkin however, gives Team Russia an opportunity to rebuild for the 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022 and possibly the 2026 Olympics.

Malkin is a lock no matter which way you slice it.

wilka91*
11-15-2005, 05:29 PM
Both Malkin and Ovechkin have played for Team Russia in the WC's and World Cup, if I'm not mistaken.Malkin didn't take part in the WC2004, but he's just as mature and ready as Ovechkin for the Olympics.

Transported Upstater
11-15-2005, 05:33 PM
Malkin didn't take part in the WC2004, but he's just as mature and ready as Ovechkin for the Olympics.


I was mostly right then. :p: :D

TORRUS
11-15-2005, 05:37 PM
Malkin in the Olympics? Isn't it a bit too soon to be putting Malkin in the Olympics?

Is he good enough as of right now? Is he developed enough?


Just wait and see! ;) People here underrate Malkin a lot!

Ohhhh, I just can't wait to see him at the Olympics!!! I expect nothing less than dominance from AO-EM line!

montreal
11-15-2005, 06:20 PM
Someone should tell the coach for Team Russia that Malkin won't play, cause I just read an interview where he said he was hoping to get Malkin and Voloshenko for next month's wjc's. The interview was after Russia's win of the 4 Nations tournament this past weekend.