Kazakhstan, Italy and Germany Long Lists

Has anyone seen Long List/Preliminary rosters for Kazakhstan, Italy or Germany?

I know the US and Finland are keeping theirs secret, but Kazakhstan, Italy and Germany shold be out there, right?

Goaltenders:

René Baur (Val Pusteria/Pustertal)
Günther Hell (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Jason Muzzatti (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Thomas Tragust (HC Merano/Meran)

Defence:

Michele Strazzabosco (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Justin Peca (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Christian Borgatello (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Armin Helfer (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Florian Ramoser (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Carlo Lorenzi (Alleghe)
Luigi Da Corte (SG Cortina)
André Signoretti (SG Cortina)
Carter Trevisani (Asiago)
Markus Hafner (SV Renon/Ritten)
Andreas Lutz (SV Renon/Ritten)
Alexander Egger (SV Renon/Ritten)
Robert Nardella (no team)
Armin Hofer (Val Pusteria/Pustertal)
Christopher Bartolone (Sønderjyske - DEN)

Forwards:

Mario Brian Chitarroni (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Giuseppe Busillo (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Max Oberrauch (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Dino Felicetti (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Matteo Molteni (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Andrea Molteni (HCJ Milano Vipers)
Jason Cirone (Asiago)
Giulio Scandella (Asiago)
Claudio Mantese (Asiago)
John Parco (Asiago)
Pat Iannone (Asiago)
Luca Rigoni (Asiago)
Nicola Fontanive (Alleghe)
Manuel De Toni (Alleghe)
Giorgio De Bettin (SG Cortina)
Anthony Tuzzolino (SG Cortina)
Dino Grossi (SG Cortina)
Luca Ansoldi (SV Renon/Ritten)
Paolo Bustreo (SV Renon/Ritten)
Stefano Margoni (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Stefan Zisser (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Rolly Ramoser (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Christian Walcher (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Enrico Chelodi (HC Bolzano/Bozen)
Julian Mascarin (HC Settequerce/Siebeneich)
Anthony Iob (KAC Klagenfurt - AUT)
Luca Felicetti (HC Fassa)
Diego Iori (HC Fassa)
Drew Omicioli (Danbury Trashers - UHL)

I have seen Germany's, but I can't seem to locate it.

Very interested in Germany's roster. Anyone know where to find it?

I remember last season, there was some talk that Rico Fata might have played for Italy. However, upon reviewing this thread (http://hfboards.com/archive/index.php/t-112020.html) I realize that he doesn't meet the eligibility requirements. It really is too bad.

Nik Antropov crush!

Defence:


Robert Nardella (no team)



D Bob Nardella is actually playing in UHL (Rockford IceHogs) ;)

Are Perez and Nabokov Kazakh-eligible?

Perez is a spanish name :teach:

I heard David Hasselhoff will be coaching the German team. Can anyone confirm?

I heard David Hasselhoff will be coaching the German team. Can anyone confirm?
lol

I heard David Hasselhoff will be coaching the German team. Can anyone confirm?
LOL,good one.Chuckled pretty hard when reading this.

Are Perez and Nabokov Kazakh-eligible?
No, Nabokov is Russian. Once you change your citizenship for sporting purposes, you can't change back. Nabby will be on Team Russia facing his own home country.


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Is Bob Nardella really gonna be on Team Italy? I can't believe that guy is still around!

No, Nabokov is Russian. Once you change your citizenship for sporting purposes, you can't change back. Nabby will be on Team Russia facing his own home country...

Which is too bad....

Antropov is another ethnic Russian born in Kazakhstan, but he choses to remain with the Kazakh national program. :handclap:
Even Dainus Zubrus chose Lithuania, stating "Lithuania needs me more than Russia!" :handclap:
The Kazakhs national team, playing more as a unit now than they did in the past could have pulled a Belarus if Nabokov stayed with them.

Which is too bad....

Antropov is another ethnic Russian born in Kazakhstan, but he choses to remain with the Kazakh national program. :handclap:
Even Dainus Zubrus chose Lithuania, stating "Lithuania needs me more than Russia!" :handclap:
The Kazakhs national team, playing more as a unit now than they did in the past could have pulled a Belarus if Nabokov stayed with them.
Kolesnik has really come on and the difference at the moment may not be that great. Nabby is not setting the world on fire right now.

Kolesnik has really come on and the difference at the moment may not be that great. Nabby is not setting the world on fire right now.
Nabokov is way better than Kolesnik

Nabokov is way better than Kolesnik
An in form Kolesnik V an out of form Nabby is a dead heat. I am aware nabby is better. Thanks. Kolesnik was outstanding this past calendar year and is a big part of why Kazakhstan is in the Olympics.

Nabokov is way better than Kolesnik
Did you happen to see Nabby's latest gem V the Flames tonite?

If Kazakhstan plays like in the last WC's, expect a lot of low scoring games.

STill haven't seen the German list. Anyone know where? :help:

STill haven't seen the German list. Anyone know where? :help:

don't hold me to it, because I don't understand one word of German (well, I might understand a few, but nothing important ;) ), but in some random surfing around the offical German program site (deb-online.de), I found this listing for "a-team"

Goalies
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Oliver Jonas (Koln - DEL)
Dmitri Patzold (Cleveland - AHL)
Olaf Kolzig (Washington - NHL)
Alexander Jung (Dusseldorf - DEL)
Robert Muller (Krefeld - DEL)

Defencemen
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Robert Leask (Berlin - DEL)
Sascha Goc (Mannheim - DEL)
Martin Walter (Hamburg - DEL)
Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose - NHL)
Mirko Ludemann (Koln - DEL)
Christoph Schubert (Ottawa - NHL)
Stefan Schauer (Nurnberg - DEL)
Michael Bakos (Mannheim - DEL)
Patrick Koeppchen (Hamburg - DEL)
Andreas Renz (Koln - DEL)
Felix Petermann (Nurnberg - DEL)
Alexander Sulzer (Dusseldorf - DEL)
Shane Wright (Krefeld - DEL) *Now there's a German name if I've ever heard one, lol*
Lasse Kopitz (Wolfsburg - DEL)
Stephane Retzer (Kassel - DEL)
Denis Seidenberg (Philadelphia - NHL)

Forwards
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Sven Felski (Berlin - DEL)
Stefan Ustorf (Krefeld - DEL)
Jochen Hecht (Buffalo - DEL)
Marco Sturm (Boston - NHL) *writing Boston there feels.... wrong.
Martin Reichel (Frankfurt - DEL)
Daniel Kreutzer (Dusseldorf - DEL)
Alexander Barta (Berlin - DEL)
Thomas Martinec (Nurnberg - DEL)
Eduard Lewandowski (Koln - DEL)
Tino Boos (Koln - DEL)
Christoph Ullmann (Mannheim - DEL/Heilbronn - Oberliga)
Sebastien Furchner (Koln - DEL)
Robert Hock (Hannover - DEL)
Marcel Goc (San Jose - NHL)
Michael Hackert (Frankfurt - DEL)
Marcus Kink (Mannheim - DEL)
Petr Fical (Nurnberg - DEL)
Andreas Morczinietz (Hannover - DEL)
Jan Benda (Litvinov - Czech League)

That's what I could find.

http://www.deb-online.de/index2.htm

on the left side there should be a link that says "a-team" that will give you this roster.

I have to think it might be old though, because if Thomas Greiss isn't even on the list, it's a travesty.

Wow, haven't ever seen so many NHLers on Team Germany before. The times they are a changin'.

Can anyone with good knowledge of these national programs tell me which players would most likely lead the Khazak, Italian, German, and Swiss teams in scoring at the Olympics?

Thanks.

Jochen Hecht (Buffalo - DEL)

Things must have gotten REALLY bad in Buffalo for them to be demoted like that.

The Nemesis that's the German National Team, the A-team if you will but not the U-20 team.

Can't give you the entire roster, but I know that the following Eisbären (Berlin Polar Bears) players are going to be on the team:

G: Youri Ziffzer

D: René Kramer

F: Norman Martens, Marvin Tepper, Christoph Gawlik

These are the rosters for the Olympics though, not the WJC's.

An in form Kolesnik V an out of form Nabby is a dead heat. I am aware nabby is better. Thanks. Kolesnik was outstanding this past calendar year and is a big part of why Kazakhstan is in the Olympics.

Kolesnik isn't even the true #1 goaltender of Kazakhstan - Vitali Eremeev is. Eremeev has been awsome for Dynamo the past couple years (don't know why he doesn't choose to play for Kazakhstan more often).

Things must have gotten REALLY bad in Buffalo for them to be demoted like that.

Freudian slip ;)

Kolesnik isn't even the true #1 goaltender of Kazakhstan - Vitali Eremeev is. Eremeev has been awsome for Dynamo the past couple years (don't know why he doesn't choose to play for Kazakhstan more often).


Should we expect this tandem?



I know Nabokov considers himself Russian, even though he isn't.

Should we expect this tandem?



I know Nabokov considers himself Russian, even though he isn't.



Why exactly isnt Nabokov Russian? :dunno:

Even though he IS Russian, he should have kept playing for Kazahstan as it looks as though he might not make Russia's Olympic squad. Bryzgalov was told that he was on the team by some guy that was the former general manager or something. Kirkunov suggested Sokolov will be playing due to his form at the Rosno Cup. That leave a choice between Khabby and Nabby if we discount Zvyagin and Koshechkin.

Why exactly isnt Nabokov Russian? :dunno:

Even though he IS Russian, he should have kept playing for Kazahstan as it looks as though he might not make Russia's Olympic squad. Bryzgalov was told that he was on the team by some guy that was the former general manager or something. Kirkunov suggested Sokolov will be playing due to his form at the Rosno Cup. That leave a choice between Khabby and Nabby if we discount Zvyagin and Koshechkin.


Nabokov is not eligible to play for Russia because he played for Kazakhstan in the WJC's. Much like how Zuburs cannot play for Russia because he did the same for Lithuania.

Nabokov is not eligible to play for Russia because he played for Kazakhstan in the WJC's. Much like how Zuburs cannot play for Russia because he did the same for Lithuania.


If only you knew how sick and tired I am of clearing up this elignibility issue. There exists an IIHF rule that allows a player to appeal his elligbility for a country given that he now retains citizenship of that country and played in the country's league for a certain amount of years (I believe its 4).

I dont know if Nabokov appealed under the above clause or simply a personal case of how he was confused to national identity as Kazahstan + Russia were just created when he played: BUT NABOKOV IS ELLIGIBLE TO PLAY FOR RUSSIA.

About Zubrus, you are once again mistaken. Zubrus, up until last World Cup had not played for ANY country in ANY competition. He agreed to play for Russia at the World Cup because since its not IIHF sanctioned event, it did not affect his eligibility to play for Lithuania, which he wanted to do and will do/has done since then. He never played World Juniors.

Well, all NHL players ...

G Olaf Kölzig (Washington)

D Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia)
D Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose)
D Christoph Schubert (Ottawa)

F Marco Sturm (Boston)
F Marcel Goc (San Jose)
F Jochen Hecht (Buffalo)

... will definately represent Germany at the Olympics.

Other sure bets are:

G Robert Müller (drafted by Washington)

D Alexander Sulzer (drafted by Nashville)
D Sascha Goc (older brother of Marcel; played a few games for New Jersey and Tampa Bay)

F Stefan Ustorf (played for Washington)
F Daniel Kreutzer
F Klaus Kathan
F Eduard Lewandowski (drafted by Phoenix)
F Jan Benda (undrafted, but played nine games for Washington)

Head Coach will be the only german Stanley Cup Champion ever: Uwe Krupp, because former coach Greg Poss resignes two days ago for coaching DEL-Team Mannheim (he had problems with the staff of the german hockey federation and also the media wasn't loving him because of Germany's relegation in the WC 2005 in Austria).

The roster for Team Germany was announced today, there are still some cuts to be made:

Goaltenders: Olaf Kölzig (Washington Capitals), Robert Müller (Krefeld Pinguine), Thomas Greiss (Kölner Haie), Dimitri Kotschnew (Iserlohn Roosters)

Defense: Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia Flyers),
Christoph Schubert (Ottawa Senators), Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose
Sharks), Michael Bresagk (Frankfurt Lions), Robert Leask (Eisbären
Berlin), Sascha Goc (Adler Mannheim), Stefan Schauer, Felix
Petermann (both Nürnberg Ice Tigers), Marian Bazany, Alexander
Sulzer (beide DEG Metro Stars), Andreas Renz, Lasse Kopitz (both
Kölner Haie)

Forwards: Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres), Marco Sturm (Boston
Bruins), Marcel Goc (San Jose Sharks), Jan Benda (HC Chemopetrol
Litwinow), Sven Felski, Stefan Ustorf, Florian Busch (all Eisbären
Berlin), Daniel Kreutzer, Klaus Kathan (both DEG Metro Stars),
Alexander Barta (Hamburg Freezers), Tomas Martinec, Petr Fical
(both Nürnberg Ice Tigers), Eduard Lewandowski, Sebastian
Furchner, Tino Boos, Philip Gogulla (all Kölner Haie), Michael
Hackert (Frankfurt Lions), Yannic Seidenberg (ERC Ingolstadt)

I think the lines can be the like that:

Sturm - M.Goc - Hecht
Kathan - Hackert - Kreutzer
Lewandowski - Boos - Furchner
Martinec - Ustorf - Benda

I´m not sure about the defenders (maybe Benda will play D too), the Sturm line played pretty well at the World Cup, Kathan & Kreutzer are playing together in Düsseldorf and the Lewandowski-Boos-Furchner line is together for several years now.

The roster for Team Germany was announced today, there are still some cuts to be made:

Goaltenders: Olaf Kölzig (Washington Capitals), Robert Müller (Krefeld Pinguine), Thomas Greiss (Kölner Haie), Dimitri Kotschnew (Iserlohn Roosters)

Defense: Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia Flyers),
Christoph Schubert (Ottawa Senators), Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose
Sharks), Michael Bresagk (Frankfurt Lions), Robert Leask (Eisbären
Berlin), Sascha Goc (Adler Mannheim), Stefan Schauer, Felix
Petermann (both Nürnberg Ice Tigers), Marian Bazany, Alexander
Sulzer (beide DEG Metro Stars), Andreas Renz, Lasse Kopitz (both
Kölner Haie)

Forwards: Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres), Marco Sturm (Boston
Bruins), Marcel Goc (San Jose Sharks), Jan Benda (HC Chemopetrol
Litwinow), Sven Felski, Stefan Ustorf, Florian Busch (all Eisbären
Berlin), Daniel Kreutzer, Klaus Kathan (both DEG Metro Stars),
Alexander Barta (Hamburg Freezers), Tomas Martinec, Petr Fical
(both Nürnberg Ice Tigers), Eduard Lewandowski, Sebastian
Furchner, Tino Boos, Philip Gogulla (all Kölner Haie), Michael
Hackert (Frankfurt Lions), Yannic Seidenberg (ERC Ingolstadt)

I think the lines can be the like that:

Sturm - M.Goc - Hecht
Kathan - Hackert - Kreutzer
Lewandowski - Boos - Furchner
Martinec - Ustorf - Benda

I´m not sure about the defenders (maybe Benda will play D too), the Sturm line played pretty well at the World Cup, Kathan & Kreutzer are playing together in Düsseldorf and the Lewandowski-Boos-Furchner line is together for several years now.

Why wasn't Gawlik on the list? He seems to be having a solid season with Berlin.