Randall Graves*
11-05-2005, 06:45 PM
The ducks called have up Trevor Gillieshttp://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/ (LINK!)
Gillies has been called upRandall Graves* 11-05-2005, 06:45 PM The ducks called have up Trevor Gillieshttp://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/ (LINK!) McDonald19 11-05-2005, 07:51 PM Brennan is day to day with a strained left shoulder, Fedoruk is likely day to day with a strained back. so we needed an enforcer. Gillies vs. Boogard on Sunday perhaps. Jerky Leclerc 11-05-2005, 07:59 PM Brennan is day to day with a strained left shoulder, Fedoruk is likely day to day with a strained back. so we needed an enforcer. Gillies vs. Boogard on Sunday perhaps. Boogard is one scary mother. He can do alot of damage with his long reach. Reaper45 11-05-2005, 09:42 PM Boogard is one scary mother. He can do alot of damage with his long reach. Yep, just ask Kip. Dirk316 11-05-2005, 11:16 PM Gillies is no slouch and will fight Boogard tomarow it should be a war :yo: Fighter 11-06-2005, 12:11 AM I hope he will do a better enforcing role than Brennan. Tomorrow Gillies vs Boogaard is a lock, let's rumble! :yo: Duckstudd269 11-06-2005, 02:58 AM put these 3 guys in order from best fighter to the worst. Brennan, Gillies, and Fedoruk. Large_Farva* 11-06-2005, 03:03 AM Good luck to Gillies. Dirk316 11-06-2005, 03:32 AM put these 3 guys in order from best fighter to the worst. Brennan, Gillies, and Fedoruk. 1)Fedoruk 2)Gillies 3)Brennan All 3 are good fighter though much better then Sawyer,Burnett,Lambert or Cummins Fighter 11-06-2005, 09:08 AM 1)Fedoruk 2)Gillies 3)Brennan Ditto. Brennan is not a bad fighter, but he opens up too much and gets dropped a lot. Not as much as Sawyer btw... Pepper 11-06-2005, 10:04 AM Ditto. Brennan is not a bad fighter, but he opens up too much and gets dropped a lot. Not as much as Sawyer btw... Kip Brennan is still a top10 enforcer in the league and if we have two better fighters ahead of him, it says alot. Jerky Leclerc 11-06-2005, 10:39 AM Kip Brennan is still a top10 enforcer in the league and if we have two better fighters ahead of him, it says alot. Yea I know, Teemu and Andy Mac can really throw those haymakers. Fighter 11-06-2005, 12:34 PM Kip Brennan is still a top10 enforcer in the league and if we have two better fighters ahead of him, it says alot. :confused: Brennan top 10? Not a chance. Fridge, Brash, McGrattan, Peters, Boogaard, Shelley, Godard, Orr, Parker, Belak are better than him just to name a few. Brennan is game, but he gets dropped a lot and I don't like his lack of activity in the last games. (Could be coach orders btw) Pepper 11-06-2005, 01:00 PM :confused: Brennan top 10? Not a chance. Fridge, Brash, McGrattan, Peters, Boogaard, Shelley, Godard, Orr, Parker, Belak are better than him just to name a few. Brennan is game, but he gets dropped a lot and I don't like his lack of activity in the last games. (Could be coach orders btw) Well many of the guys are ahead of Brennan but not all of them IMHO. For example Peters, I don't think he's ahead of Brennan on the top lists. McDonald19 11-06-2005, 04:34 PM :confused: Brennan top 10? Not a chance. Fridge, Brash, McGrattan, Peters, Boogaard, Shelley, Godard, Orr, Parker, Belak are better than him just to name a few. Brennan is game, but he gets dropped a lot and I don't like his lack of activity in the last games. (Could be coach orders btw) I don't think he is top 10 either, but he does have a win vs. Shelley this season. Parker has not played yet this season. Brennan is fun to watch because he wants to trade bombs. Stevenson wanted nothing to do with that in their last fight, thats why Stevenson kept it as a in close wrestling match. Fedoruk using a little more strategy. He'll trade a few rights or hold on defensively so that at the right time he can surprise with the lefts. Fighter 11-06-2005, 05:48 PM Well many of the guys are ahead of Brennan but not all of them IMHO. For example Peters, I don't think he's ahead of Brennan on the top lists. Peters dropped Brennan two times last year :D Actually one of theirs fight was fun to watch, they were exchanging blows then Peters unloaded a punch and Brennan went down, got up, took another exchange and again Brennan got caught and went down. Pratically he got knocked down two times in the same fight. Pepper 11-06-2005, 07:40 PM Yea I remember that one but if you compare their lists Brennan is there with Peters. Jerky Leclerc 11-06-2005, 09:26 PM Boogard sends Gillies to Mars with an uppercut. There goes our goon. Spankatola Jamnuts 11-06-2005, 09:27 PM Trevor Gillies: as worthless as the rest of em. Good job, rook. At least he can't take any penalties from the IR. braincramp 11-06-2005, 09:29 PM Boogard sends Gillies to Mars with an uppercut. There goes our goon. Welcome to the NHL. Now goodbye. HAPPY HOUR 11-06-2005, 09:33 PM Rumor has it that Eric Godard is available. Hockeyfan02 11-06-2005, 09:35 PM Good game for the enforcer: puts the team shorthanded twice and gets knocked the f out in the fight the fight lovers were looking forward to. Now go back to the AHL. braincramp 11-06-2005, 09:40 PM I understand the argument that an enforcer can protect one's skill players. But goon v. goon achieves nothing, and is a waste of time. Ziggy Stardust 11-06-2005, 09:53 PM You do realize that goons usually pick fights with other goons right? How many goons drop the gloves against players who aren't known to fight? Trevor Gillies was called up to fill the role of a tough guy, and it looks like highlight of his NHL career was getting knocked out by Derek Boogaard (who happened to knockout Brennan earlier this season as well). And for those of you who missed the fight... http://www.wildenforcers.com/videos/051106_boogaard_gillies.avi Credit to Wildenforcers.com Jerky Leclerc 11-06-2005, 10:44 PM You know the saying, "When in Rome...." Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 11-07-2005, 01:08 AM Rumor has it that Eric Godard is available. The Ducks don't need another enforcer, just someone to fill the void while Fedoruk and Brennan are out. They definetely don't need to add another goon. Hank 11-07-2005, 02:51 AM The Ducks don't need another enforcer, just someone to fill the void while Fedoruk and Brennan are out. They definetely don't need to add another goon. Come on, Burke still has a 1st round pick. A deal can be worked out. :shakehead Seriously, two BAD penalties by this guy and he gets his *** handed to him in his one fight. I like our chances better with him on a plane back to Portland. Dirk316 11-07-2005, 04:55 AM Not the best debut by any means. If Brennan or Fedoruk are still out by Sat theres no other choices Pepper 11-07-2005, 11:48 AM What the hell are you guys whining at?? He took on the best young enforcer in the league and traded some great punches with him until got hit with a big uppercut. Up until that point it was a great fight and he was doing very well. If he plays it smarter (no instigator next time) he will do very well in the NHL fight-wise, I'm certain of that. Big :clap: to Gillies, he showed some balls there, how many other guys dare even fight Boogard not to mention fight Boogard wide-open trading bombs?? Yeah, I'm sure this board would love to see another Sami ****ing Palhsson who has contributed a mighty 1 goal in 16 games continuing his ever impressive NHL scoring streak where he's currently on pace for whopping FIVE (5!) goals this year nearly threatening his massive career best of EIGHT (8!) goals. Sheesh. Every fighter wins some and loses some, did you see Philly fans screaming for Brashear to be traded when he was beaten by Godard this year? Hockeyfan02 11-07-2005, 12:03 PM No one is screaming at him for losing a fight. People are mad with him for taking 2 dumb penalties, one which killed a PP. Yeah he had to be tough and show he wasn't afraid of him after getting KO'd....didn't have to do it after the whistle when the team is going on a PP. I don't mind enforcers, as long as they don't take dumb penalties like Gillies did last night. Hopefully Fedoruk comes back, because Gillies does not belong in the NHL. What does Sami Pahlsson's goal total have anything to do with the discussion, other than you don't like the guy? Pwnasaurus 11-07-2005, 12:12 PM What the hell are you guys whining at?? He took on the best young enforcer in the league and traded some great punches with him until got hit with a big uppercut. Up until that point it was a great fight and he was doing very well. If he plays it smarter (no instigator next time) he will do very well in the NHL fight-wise, I'm certain of that. Big :clap: to Gillies, he showed some balls there, how many other guys dare even fight Boogard not to mention fight Boogard wide-open trading bombs?? Yeah, I'm sure this board would love to see another Sami ****ing Palhsson who has contributed a mighty 1 goal in 16 games continuing his ever impressive NHL scoring streak where he's currently on pace for whopping FIVE (5!) goals this year nearly threatening his massive career best of EIGHT (8!) goals. Sheesh. Every fighter wins some and loses some, did you see Philly fans screaming for Brashear to be traded when he was beaten by Godard this year? This is sarcasm right? :help: Pepper 11-07-2005, 12:12 PM Well it was aimed at those two clowns who were making the gay references earlier, one of them being a moderator no less. Gillies played his first NHL game for crying out loud, maybe we should give him a few more games, you know just like we gave to Hedström who was equally brutal in his start. First NHL game, it's no excuse but I can understand if Gillies had little extra jump in his game. Pepper 11-07-2005, 12:13 PM This is sarcasm right? :help: I don't think you even know what sarcasm is but to ansewr your question, no it wasn't. 190Octane 11-07-2005, 01:55 PM Sorry but he's not that great. I guess he's a necessary evil for 2-3 minutes a night but lets not even start the discussion of him staying up there once Brennan or Fedoruk comes back in the lineup. Chistov23 11-07-2005, 02:15 PM Yeah, I'm sure this board would love to see another Sami ****ing Palhsson who has contributed a mighty 1 goal in 16 games continuing his ever impressive NHL scoring streak where he's currently on pace for whopping FIVE (5!) goals this year nearly threatening his massive career best of EIGHT (8!) goals. Your now comparing Gillies to Pahlsson? I thought you'd be happy with Pahlsson considering he gift wrapped Konopka's first ever NHL goal. He also did not take 2 stupid penalties putting our team down, but instead helped kill them off. Pwnasaurus 11-07-2005, 03:46 PM I don't think you even know what sarcasm is but to ansewr your question, no it wasn't. Outside of Booger I'm arguably the most sarcastic one on here. Gilles reminds me of Burnett only with less skill. Pepper 11-07-2005, 04:27 PM Sorry but he's not that great. I guess he's a necessary evil for 2-3 minutes a night but lets not even start the discussion of him staying up there once Brennan or Fedoruk comes back in the lineup. Hey, all I'm saying that don't judge him by his first 4 mins in the NHL, he deserves to get another shot if Brennan & Fedoruk are still out. Pepper 11-07-2005, 04:28 PM Your now comparing Gillies to Pahlsson? I thought you'd be happy with Pahlsson considering he gift wrapped Konopka's first ever NHL goal. He also did not take 2 stupid penalties putting our team down, but instead helped kill them off. No, I'm not comparing him to Pahlsson, I'm just saying that you can't judge him by his first 4 mins in the NHL, that's all. But since we're talking about Pahlsson, is anyone happy with his contribution so far? 1 goal and -1, good enough? Pwnasaurus 11-07-2005, 04:51 PM But since we're talking about Pahlsson, is anyone happy with his contribution so far? 1 goal and -1, good enough? Yes but not for the reasons you mentioned....because teams have scored only once in 25 powerplays vs the Ducks this month. Pahlsson makes the PK go and right now it's going well. His +/- is not a good indicator of his effectiveness. In fact I would call a "0" +/- for him a solid year provided our PK is still awesome as it is currently. He will not score goals, he can barely hit the net...he will continue to dig the puck out of the corners on the PK and drain time off the clock which is a very valuable commodity in this current landscape. You run him out there on the PK with the Niedermayer brothers and Carney and it is almost like being even again. Hockeyfan02 11-07-2005, 06:44 PM But since we're talking about Pahlsson, is anyone happy with his contribution so far? 1 goal and -1, good enough? Again, why do Pahlsson's offensive stats matter? He's the 3rd line center who's job is to be solid in his own end and be an effective PKer. Any offense created is a plus and he will probably never get any PP time. He's not asked to score goals, just help prevent them. I don't see anyone bringing up Trevor Gillies offensive stats.....because they are irrelevant considering his role, just like Pahlsson's are irrelevant. braincramp 11-07-2005, 07:03 PM You do realize that goons usually pick fights with other goons right? How many goons drop the gloves against players who aren't known to fight? . . . Yes, exactly my point. I can understand having a tough player - an enforcer - who, when his teammate is being abused, adjusting the attitude of the opposing player committing the abuses. But two structured fighters - goons - simply facing off against each other when it has nothing to do with enforcement achieves nothing. Pepper 11-07-2005, 07:26 PM 1 goal, -1, a below average PK and you're happy? :shakehead Like I said, Gillies needs to get more chances to show whether he can play in the NHL or not, only an idiot would judge him based on 4 mins in the league. Ziggy Stardust 11-07-2005, 07:48 PM The role of the enforcer is to get his team going with some big checks, a fight (in his favor) and consistent hustle, something Stu Grimson was able to provide, without being much of a liability on the ice. He 'polices' and protects and steps up against players who take liberties against his teammates. A rookie enforcer tries to prove himself to his teammates and his staff by taking on all challenges and will usually go after the proven heavyweights (i.e. Matt Johnson's rookie debut against Stu Grimson). That is what Gillies tried to do, and he was unsuccessful at it and was a liability on the ice for the Ducks. Kick Save 11-07-2005, 09:28 PM What the hell are you guys whining at?? He took on the best young enforcer in the league and traded some great punches with him until got hit with a big uppercut. Up until that point it was a great fight and he was doing very well. If he plays it smarter (no instigator next time) he will do very well in the NHL fight-wise, I'm certain of that. Big :clap: to Gillies, he showed some balls there, how many other guys dare even fight Boogard not to mention fight Boogard wide-open trading bombs?? Yeah, I'm sure this board would love to see another Sami ****ing Palhsson who has contributed a mighty 1 goal in 16 games continuing his ever impressive NHL scoring streak where he's currently on pace for whopping FIVE (5!) goals this year nearly threatening his massive career best of EIGHT (8!) goals. Sheesh. Every fighter wins some and loses some, did you see Philly fans screaming for Brashear to be traded when he was beaten by Godard this year? I agree with you to the extent that Gillies' chose to fight---or perhaps was instructed to do so---at a time when the Ducks needed a spark. I think he "took one for the team". Boogard is huge---6' 7", 270 according to Brent Severyn---and, with his reach, he's really tough to fight. The fight seemed to energize the Ducks so I think that Gillies' not only did his job, but also it was worth taking a penalty (although I would've prefered that he not get the extra 2-minute minor). On a different note, I can't understand your obsession with Pahlsson. Yesterday was the first Ducks' home game I've missed in the last three seasons. So, if he was "horrible" yesterday, I'll plead ignorance. But, from I've seen this year, Pahlsson has been the Ducks' best penalty-killer this year by a pretty wide margin. On quite a few occasions, I've seen him steal the puck or come up with an errant pass and proceed to work 10 or 15 precious seconds off the clock all by himself. Not only is Pahlsson not a bad player; he is, in fact, a valuable member of the team. Pepper 11-08-2005, 04:09 AM The role of the enforcer is to get his team going with some big checks, a fight (in his favor) and consistent hustle, something Stu Grimson was able to provide, without being much of a liability on the ice. He 'polices' and protects and steps up against players who take liberties against his teammates. A rookie enforcer tries to prove himself to his teammates and his staff by taking on all challenges and will usually go after the proven heavyweights (i.e. Matt Johnson's rookie debut against Stu Grimson). That is what Gillies tried to do, and he was unsuccessful at it and was a liability on the ice for the Ducks. I bet large amounts of money that you never saw Stu Grimson when he started his career with the Blackhawks. He lost plenty of fights (he had simply horrible balance) and was horrible in every possible way. You just can't draw any long-term conclusions based on 1 game with 4 minutes of total icetime. Ziggy Stardust 11-08-2005, 05:39 AM Losing to Bob Probert and Joey Kocur as a rookie is different, and there is no shame in that. Grimson fought quite often, so you are bound to lose some. Also, when Grimson came into the league, that era of enforcers was arguably the toughest with guys like Probert, Ray, Kocur, McSorley, Peluso, Domi, Churla, Odjick, Chase, Berube, Odgers, plus many others. Getting your clock cleaned in your first scrap and putting your team at a disadvantage on every shift you skate isn't helping the team. Sure he might be overzealos because it is his first shot, but Gillies will be turning 27 and he can barely even hang in the AHL. Just because Burke dealt Rucchin for him doesn't mean he will amount to much. Don't keep your hopes up. I'm not drawing long term conclusions based on Gillies's one game. I'm being realistic in saying that he has no future in the NHL. His only reason for being up in the pros is to serve as a fill-in due to the injuries to Fedoruk and Brennan. As soon as one of them are ready to go Gillies is obviously going to be the first one to go. The only thing impressive about his first game was that he was capable to return to the ice. I would say that any team that has Trevor Gillies on its 23-man roster has some depth issues it needs to address. Pepper 11-08-2005, 06:50 AM Getting your clock cleaned in your first scrap and putting your team at a disadvantage on every shift you skate isn't helping the team. Sure he might be overzealos because it is his first shot, but Gillies will be turning 27 and he can barely even hang in the AHL. Just because Burke dealt Rucchin for him doesn't mean he will amount to much. Don't keep your hopes up. No, it doesn't help the team, that's clear. But when you go toe-to-toe with monster like Boogaard in a wide-open fight anything can happen, had Gillies caught Boogaard with any of his wild haymakers the situation would be most likely reversed. It took Stu several years to get in to the top, he got beaten to ice several times in his early years. jr77812 11-08-2005, 04:39 PM Per the AHL transaction pages: 11/08/2005 Trevor Gillies Portland ADD Returned on loan from Anaheim (NHL) 11/08/2005 Zenon Konopka Portland ADD Returned on loan from Anaheim (NHL) Dirk316 11-08-2005, 05:03 PM Per the AHL transaction pages: 11/08/2005 Trevor Gillies Portland ADD Returned on loan from Anaheim (NHL) 11/08/2005 Zenon Konopka Portland ADD Returned on loan from Anaheim (NHL) No games till Sat. Konopka imo earned a spot on this team Kevin Forbes 11-08-2005, 05:09 PM No games till Sat. Konopka imo earned a spot on this team At who's expense? Hank 11-08-2005, 06:15 PM No games till Sat. Konopka imo earned a spot on this team I don't see how you can say that when they can line up Fedorov, Getzlaf, McDonald, and Pahlsson at center on Saturday. Assuming Feds is back in the lineup like he's supposed to be. Dirk316 11-08-2005, 06:45 PM Well in 2 games he has as many goals as our very own god and imo is just as good defensively Randall Graves* 11-08-2005, 07:40 PM I don't like Gillies, I love fighting and physical play but when you play a few shifts a game you can't take stupid penalties and he took two. He belongs in the minors until he learns not to do that. I do like Konopka, Getzlaf is too good to play in the minors. my four centers would be fedorov, getzlaf, pahlsson, and konopka with andy on the wing. McDonald19 11-08-2005, 07:52 PM I don't see how you can say that when they can line up Fedorov, Getzlaf, McDonald, and Pahlsson at center on Saturday. Assuming Feds is back in the lineup like he's supposed to be. Getzlaf and Selanne have chemistry now hopefully, Fedorov and Lupul have chemistry. McDonald and Niedermayer will play on the wings. That gives Pahlsson the third line center spot and Konopka the fourth line center spot. Niedermayer-Fedorov-Lupul McDonald-Getzlaf-Selanne Hedstrom-Pahlsson-Sykora Moen/Kunitz-Konopka-Fedoruk Brennan-Healthy scratch When Perry comes back I'd trade Sykora before the rest of the league realizes how much he sucks and he has no trade value. TheJoeMan 11-08-2005, 08:09 PM Well considering Konopka got sent down we can all put his spot on this team to rest. He plays with a lot of heart and energy but you can't expect that guy to score very often and his style of play brings too many penalties. Needless to say he is by far our first call-up and has earned that distinction. Andy Mac will stay at center and Petr Sykora isn't going anywhere. I think it's hilarious that putting him on the point on the PP has almost single-handedly jump-started our powerplay has yet to convince people he is valuble to this team. If not for the crease being still too wet in Colorado, he would have tied that game for us which he more than likely would have won. If we end up being completely healthy by this weekend I see the forward lines shaping up like this: Niedermayer Fedorov Lupul Fedoruk McDonald Selanne Sykora Getzlaf Perry Moen Pahlsson Hedstrom Brennan and Kunitz as reserves, if of course Kunitz isn't sent down which I doubt. Hank 11-08-2005, 08:09 PM Getzlaf and Selanne have chemistry now hopefully, Fedorov and Lupul have chemistry. McDonald and Niedermayer will play on the wings. That gives Pahlsson the third line center spot and Konopka the fourth line center spot. Niedermayer-Fedorov-Lupul McDonald-Getzlaf-Selanne Hedstrom-Pahlsson-Sykora Moen/Kunitz-Konopka-Fedoruk Nope, play Kunitz on the 2nd line wing and McDonald as the 3rd line center... like they did in the Minnesota game. Or put Fedoruk on the 2nd line wing like they did before his injury. Chistov23 11-08-2005, 08:45 PM Well in 2 games he has as many goals as our very own god and imo is just as good defensively Yea that was a nice goal, such a sweet pass...man I forget who dished it to him, anyone remember? McDonald19 11-08-2005, 08:46 PM Konopka will be back. Carlyle had good things to say about him after the Minnesota game. "It's always a lift when a player is as energetic and committed as he is," Carlyle said. "You wouldn't describe him as a gifted scorer. But he got a goal and he got it from an area in which he's not afraid to go into." ..."My job is to go out there and lay the body and kind of stir the pot a bit," said Konopka, who joined the Ducks on Oct. 29 after starting the season at their minor league affiliate in Portland, Maine. "We were down in the game. I was just trying to have a good shift and get the guys energized. Luckily for me, the puck came out at the right time and I put it home." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-duckrep7nov07,1,5791348.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true Konopka gave the Ducks a jump-start when he netted the first goal of his career to start the second-period rally. "With [Zenon], we know what we're going to get day in and day out," Carlyle said. "He's a cheerleader, he's a hard guy to play against and he'll do anything possible within his means to help you win a hockey game." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ducks7nov07,1,1632617.story?coll=la-headlines-sports Dirk316 11-08-2005, 09:51 PM Yea that was a nice goal, such a sweet pass...man I forget who dished it to him, anyone remember? Im sure god would have missed that shot is roles were reversed braincramp 11-08-2005, 09:58 PM . . . When Perry comes back I'd trade Sykora before the rest of the league realizes how much he sucks and he has no trade value. Amen. Randall Graves* 11-09-2005, 12:33 AM Getzlaf and Selanne have chemistry now hopefully, Fedorov and Lupul have chemistry. McDonald and Niedermayer will play on the wings. That gives Pahlsson the third line center spot and Konopka the fourth line center spot. Niedermayer-Fedorov-Lupul McDonald-Getzlaf-Selanne Hedstrom-Pahlsson-Sykora Moen/Kunitz-Konopka-Fedoruk Brennan-Healthy scratch When Perry comes back I'd trade Sykora before the rest of the league realizes how much he sucks and he has no trade value. I'd keep Sykora for a while longer until everyones healthy, he's a good player on the PP which we need. Maybe later in the season Burke would look at trading Sykora and Ozolinsh. I'd rather do that instead of trading Fedorov like many are speculating. lux_interior 11-09-2005, 02:30 AM Yea that was a nice goal, such a sweet pass...man I forget who dished it to him, anyone remember? Exactly. Duckstudd269 11-09-2005, 03:29 AM Niedermayer Fedorov Lupul Fedoruk McDonald Selanne Sykora Getzlaf Perry Moen Pahlsson Hedstrom Brennan and Kunitz as reserves, if of course Kunitz isn't sent down which I doubt. Perfect lines :clap: Put Kunitz in Perry's spot until he gets back, and when Perry gets back, Kunitz should take Moen's spot on the 4th line. McDonald19 11-09-2005, 03:36 AM and when Perry gets back, Kunitz should take Moen's spot on the 4th line. that would be the softest 4th line in NHL history. Pepper 11-09-2005, 08:16 AM that would be the softest 4th line in NHL history. Exactly, it never ceases to amaze me how people have no idea about building the lines keeping in mind the different roles in the team. 4th line shoulde be the energy/physical line, Konopka would be the ideal candidate to center it. Wingers should be Brennan, Pahlsson, Moen and Hedström depending who's healthy/playing well. Fact is that when (ok, *if*) we're ever fully healthy, we have too many bodies. I'm starting to believe that Sykora is the one who should go as he would most likely get a reasonable return from a contender looking for extra scoring. But until then, here's the ideal line-up for me. Sykora-Feds-Lupuö Fedoruk-Getzlaf-Selänne Niedermayer-Perry-Kunitz Brennan/Moen-Konopka/Pahlsson-Hedström (or some combination of these 5) McDonald19 11-09-2005, 08:23 AM Sykora-Feds-Lupuö Fedoruk-Getzlaf-Selänne Niedermayer-Perry-Kunitz Brennan/Moen-Konopka/Pahlsson-Hedström (or some combination of these 5) Where is Andy Mac? Pepper 11-09-2005, 09:47 AM Where is Andy Mac? ****, I had him in the line-up but started editing the 3rd and 4th lines and left him out completely. AndyMac can replace Kunitz, Sykora or Perry depending how healthy players are and who's playing well. If no injuries, Kunitz sits. Pepper 11-09-2005, 09:49 AM Here's how you can play different forwards: Feds: lines 1-3 Selänne: 1-2 Sykora: 1-2 Lupul: 1-3 Niedermayer: 1-3 Fedoruk: 2-4 AndyMac: 1-3 Kunitz: 2-3 Getzlaf:1-4 Perry: 1-3 Moen:3-4 Hedström: 2-4 Pahlsson: 3-4 Brennan: 4 Konopka: 3-4 (I believe in future he can be used as high as 2nd line) Fighter 11-09-2005, 11:30 AM Konopka: 3-4 (I believe in future he can be used as high as 2nd line) :biglaugh: Yeah, when the team will move to Winnipeg. Pepper 11-09-2005, 12:22 PM Well I see him having more offensive upside than Hedström atleast. Pwnasaurus 11-09-2005, 01:48 PM Well I see him having more offensive upside than Hedström atleast. Zuh? You must be kidding...I've seen flashes from Hedstrom that make me think he has nice offensive upside. He has a goal scorer's moves around the crease. Pepper 11-09-2005, 04:43 PM Zuh? You must be kidding...I've seen flashes from Hedstrom that make me think he has nice offensive upside. He has a goal scorer's moves around the crease. lmao...I'm the one kidding here?? Good one. Weren't you one of those who saw Pahlsson's good offensive upside as well? Dirk316 11-09-2005, 05:06 PM Ive said this before Konopka has Darcy Tucker upside and he has played 1st line Toronto. Thats not saying he will get there but at least he should have a 4th line role locked up. Chistov23 11-09-2005, 05:12 PM IMO Konopka will never be anything more than a 4th line center, and he has yet to become that. Randall Graves* 11-09-2005, 05:18 PM that would be the softest 4th line in NHL history. Not that I disagree much, but Hedstrom and Kunitz have both been playing physical. Pwnasaurus 11-09-2005, 05:23 PM lmao...I'm the one kidding here?? Good one. Weren't you one of those who saw Pahlsson's good offensive upside as well? No, you have me confused with someone else. He is the best PKer on the team and a good defensive forward. Hedstrom is a different type of player, that goal he scored on the backhand was enough for me to notice he can get the puck in the net with some ability. Pepper 11-09-2005, 06:24 PM No, you have me confused with someone else. He is the best PKer on the team and a good defensive forward. Hedstrom is a different type of player, that goal he scored on the backhand was enough for me to notice he can get the puck in the net with some ability. For the love of god, you can tell that by one move??? jr77812 11-10-2005, 01:20 AM Back to Gillies...he didn't dress for Portland...must still be a little foggy from the Boogaard fight. I hope he will be ready for the weekend. As much as he might not belong in Anaheim he's a huge presence for Portland. Duckstudd269 11-10-2005, 01:34 AM ok let me try these lines again.. Niedermayer-Federov-Lupul Fedoruk-Andymac-Selanne Sykora-Getzlaf-Perry/kunitz Moen-Pahlsson-Hedstrom extra:Brennan If Perry comes back and performs well, let him stay and send kunitz down. If he struggles send him down, and let kunitz have that spot. Duckstudd269 11-10-2005, 01:35 AM Back to Gillies...he didn't dress for Portland...must still be a little foggy from the Boogaard fight. I hope he will be ready for the weekend. As much as he might not belong in Anaheim he's a huge presence for Portland. was he sent back down to portland? I also heard that Konopka had been sent down, is that true? Hockeyfan02 11-10-2005, 01:49 AM was he sent back down to portland? I also heard that Konopka had been sent down, is that true? Yes both were sent back down to Portland, it was posted a bit earlier in the thread. | ||