Who stays when the injured players start returning?

Randall Graves*
10-31-2005, 03:46 AM
Who do you guys think will be staying when the injured guys return?

DiPenta has earned a role as a regular, prior to marshall and Ozolinsh being hurt he was the 7th guy. With that said they aren't going to keep Ozo out so DiPenta can play, and I would atleast like to see how Ozolinsh plays without being hindered by injuries(but is it a coincidence the ducks are playing better without him?)

Moen will probably be back this week, so my guess is Gavey is a healthy scratch or sent back to Portland.

Kunitz has played very well in his two games so far, if he keeps it up I don't see how they can sit him.

Konopka only played two minutes so I didn't get much of a read on him.

How do you guys see things shaking out?

McDonald19
10-31-2005, 04:09 AM
Gavey has been invisible through 4 games, I think he is a lock for Portland as soon as we get some healthy players back.

Kunitz is making a case for sticking around.

bleuer
10-31-2005, 06:34 AM
I think that when Ozo returns, they will let DiPenta play defense and the "not always so solid" marshall being the extra guy on offense...well, I'm just guessing as I haven't seen a game so far :)

TheJoeMan
10-31-2005, 12:56 PM
Gavey will be sent down as soon as Moen is back. Konopka will stay until Getzlaf comes back because we need four centers and as for Kuntiz? Once all four of our forwards are back I can't see them sticking with Kunitz unless he starts scoring some goals. Yes we'll have to worry about losing him to waivers, again, but I don't think Carlyle will put Brennan on waivers either. Other than him there are no other players that that will even be thought of sending down. Or Burke will keep 23 players again, who knows.

DiPenta has earned his spot but once Ozo's back DiPenta and Marshall will fight for the 6th spot again.

Kimi
10-31-2005, 02:01 PM
Witht he Cap and stuff, now W've got almost $9m on the IR list, does that mean we'll have the funds too keep Koonie with Anaheim and not send him down?

I don't know how the cap works still so I could be wrong. I'm going by you have $39m to spend the year, and as IR don't count, we'll save enough to keep Koonie in Anaheim for the season.

I think Gavey will be sent back, along with Konopka once Moen and Getz get back. I agree that DiPenta has got his spot, so him and Marshy can fight it out when Ozo is back.

I didn't think this team would work when we were signing people and stuff, but now I'm really liking it.

Professor John Frink
10-31-2005, 02:03 PM
I am going to get ripped for this but I would send down Getzlaf, Perry, Gavey and Konopka down when all come back healthy.The way the lines are clicking right now(witht he Fedorov exception) I don't want to mess with much. Getzlaf and Perry haven't been overly impressive and whats the point of having them up here with 3rd or 4th line minutes. Moen and Kunitz can take over that time. You throw Ozo onto the defense and make Marshall a 4th line forward.

I would rather Perry and Getzlaf taking care of business in the AHL right now. Maybe someone can teach Perry to keep his head up down there.

Pwnasaurus
10-31-2005, 02:07 PM
Maybe someone can teach Perry to keep his head up down there.


I have a feeling he's learned that now. Unfortunately players such as Drake will continue to run at players illegally, a stint in the AHL for Perry will not prevent that.

MightyAdam
10-31-2005, 02:09 PM
All I know is, I am gonna be glad when Federov returns. I remember in the first three games, him and Lupul had great chemistry on the team. They were definitely the best line for the Ducks. With Federov gone, yeah, Lupul has scored a couple goals, but he will be a lot better I think with Federov back.

And with the chemistry Selanne and McDonald have of pretty much being the top line currently for the ducks, those will be two very great top lines once Federov is healthy again. I think Lupuls scoring chances will definitely go up.

About Perry, I think he should work on his skating with a power-skating instructor. I remember the summer when Lupul made the team his first season, he had hired a power-skater instructor to help him with his speed. And it paid off. No longer is Lupul thought of as a bad skater. He actually seems like a great one, with good speed. Now, if Perry can be that smart also, that would help him out greatly.

Kevin Forbes
10-31-2005, 02:33 PM
Depending on how long Perry and Getzlaf continue to be out for, a conditioning assignment in Portland(at the very least) shouldn't be out of the question

Pwnasaurus
10-31-2005, 02:42 PM
No longer is Lupul thought of as a bad skater. He actually seems like a great one, with good speed.

I think he is an average skater at best but he can be an offensive whizzard when he has the puck as he has the potential to score from anywhere.

Professor John Frink
10-31-2005, 02:56 PM
Speed is overrated anyways. Guys like Ray Sheppard and Luc Robitalle scored and score a ton while being slow and poor skaters.

Randall Graves*
10-31-2005, 05:13 PM
Gavey has been invisible through 4 games, I think he is a lock for Portland as soon as we get some healthy players back.

Kunitz is making a case for sticking around.
You know, there have to be some trades coming if Perry and Getzlaf are going to be on the big club.

Upfront this team is proving to be deeper than I thought.

McDonald19
10-31-2005, 05:18 PM
You know, there have to be some trades coming if Perry and Getzlaf are going to be on the big club.

Upfront this team is proving to be deeper than I thought.

yeah I'm going to make the prediction that Getzlaf and Perry are going to Portland when they get healthy. It's for the best. Let them get 20 minutes of ice time a night in a league where they can dominate for a while.

Getzlaf, Perry and Gavey to Portland.

Moen-Fedorov-Lupul
Niedermayer-McDonald-Selanne
Hedstrom-Pahlsson-Sykora
Fedoruk-Konopka-Brennan/Kunitz

Niedermayer-Carney
Ozolinsh-Salei
Vishnevski-DiPenta
Marshall

Randall Graves*
10-31-2005, 05:22 PM
there is just no room for getzlaf and perry if Kunitz continues his play.

right now i see this as our top 3 with feds back though

niedermayer/fedorov/lupul(nieds and lupul work well together, we already know feds and loops do)
Sykora or Fedoruk/mcdonald/selanne
sykora or fedoruk/pahlsson/hedstrom
kunitz/?/moen

there is no room for the kids as top 9 forwards.

lux_interior
10-31-2005, 11:28 PM
To me these players are not NHL quality: Kunitz, DiPenta, Gavey, Konopka. Hedstrom and Moen are borderline.

Sure Perry and Getzlaf are young, but they are NHL quality. Have them with the big club on the 3rd line. They're inexpensive (right now) and can provide scoring from the 3rd line which is what we desperately need.

Professor John Frink
10-31-2005, 11:39 PM
To me these players are not NHL quality: Kunitz, DiPenta, Gavey, Konopka. Hedstrom and Moen are borderline.

Sure Perry and Getzlaf are young, but they are NHL quality. Have them with the big club on the 3rd line. They're inexpensive (right now) and can provide scoring from the 3rd line which is what we desperately need.

But at what expense? Is it worth havin g Perry and Getzlaf play 10 minutes a game as 3rd line guys? Development wise sending them to Portland is the best thing to do. The team has shown over the last 10 days they clearly can compete the way they are. Without Feds,Perry and Getzlaf. So when we get Feds back and Moen comes back to sent the likes of GAvey and Konpka down. And let Kunitz and and others fill that 10 minutes.

Spankatola Jamnuts
10-31-2005, 11:40 PM
Speed is overrated anyways. Guys like Ray Sheppard and Luc Robitalle scored and score a ton while being slow and poor skaters.
Exceptions prove the rule.

Randall Graves*
10-31-2005, 11:41 PM
To me these players are not NHL quality: Kunitz, DiPenta, Gavey, Konopka. Hedstrom and Moen are borderline.

Sure Perry and Getzlaf are young, but they are NHL quality. Have them with the big club on the 3rd line. They're inexpensive (right now) and can provide scoring from the 3rd line which is what we desperately need.
I think Hedstrom is proving to be more than borderline.

It doesn't do alot of good having Perry and Getzlaf playing 3rd/4th line minutes...we saw how ineffective Getz was playing only a few minutes.

lux_interior
11-01-2005, 12:44 AM
So you have Perry and Getz on the 3rd line and give them more ice time. You play the first 3 lines heavily, and throw the 4th line out when you need energy or a big hit to change momentum.

Sure we've won 3 in a row, but we've won at home against:

St. Louis...a team that will compete for next year's #1 overall pick.
Phoenix...not a playoff team.
The Flames...this season's Hurricanes/Ducks one year wonders.

Wait till we beat a few decent teams before we get too excited about our depth players.

McDonald19
11-01-2005, 02:02 AM
To me these players are not NHL quality: Kunitz, DiPenta, Gavey, Konopka. Hedstrom and Moen are borderline.

Sure Perry and Getzlaf are young, but they are NHL quality. Have them with the big club on the 3rd line. They're inexpensive (right now) and can provide scoring from the 3rd line which is what we desperately need.

Hedstrom is definetly NHL quality. Moen is NHL quality because he is the rare 6'2 220 who can skate well to go along with his physical play. Kunitz was skating very well and doing a good job on the PK, looks like an NHLer to me. DiPenta is a solid #6 d-man. Gavey is a generic hockey player, he should go back to Portland and be their captain. Konopka lets wait and see what he can do when he gets a few minutes of ice time.

Pwnasaurus
11-01-2005, 10:26 AM
Hedstrom looks really really good...I lot better than I thought. That backhanded roofer goal the other night was a "goal scorer's goal" as they say.

Randall Graves*
11-01-2005, 05:18 PM
So you have Perry and Getz on the 3rd line and give them more ice time. You play the first 3 lines heavily, and throw the 4th line out when you need energy or a big hit to change momentum.

Sure we've won 3 in a row, but we've won at home against:

St. Louis...a team that will compete for next year's #1 overall pick.
Phoenix...not a playoff team.
The Flames...this season's Hurricanes/Ducks one year wonders.

Wait till we beat a few decent teams before we get too excited about our depth players.
Then who do you take off of the third line? Hedstrom? He's earned his minutes, Pahlsson? If Fedoruk stays on the selanne line then that leaves sykora or niedermayer rotating through the 1st and 3rd lines.

I just don't see much ice time for them, there will have to be a trade.

braincramp
11-01-2005, 06:34 PM
. . . I just don't see much ice time for them, there will have to be a trade. Trade for what? Not a forward, not a goalie. D? Future considerations?

Duckstudd269
11-03-2005, 12:22 AM
yeah I'm going to make the prediction that Getzlaf and Perry are going to Portland when they get healthy. It's for the best. Let them get 20 minutes of ice time a night in a league where they can dominate for a while.

Getzlaf, Perry and Gavey to Portland.

Moen-Fedorov-Lupul
Niedermayer-McDonald-Selanne
Hedstrom-Pahlsson-Sykora
Fedoruk-Konopka-Brennan/Kunitz

Niedermayer-Carney
Ozolinsh-Salei
Vishnevski-DiPenta
Marshall

I think you're right about Getzlaf and Perry going to the AHL for a while, but I dont agree with your lines. If the 2 kids are sent down, these will be the lines IMO.

Hedstrom-Federov-Lupul
Fedoruk-McDonald-Selanne
Kunitz-Niedermayer-Sykora
Moen-Pahlsson-Brennan

For some reason Carlyle likes to keep Niedermayer at center, so I think that's where he will stay. I'd also like to see Hedstrom get some minutes with Lupul and Federov.

TheJoeMan
11-03-2005, 02:44 AM
We are a more talented team with Getzlaf and Perry in the lineup, period. Once they're back they'll stay unless they faulter right out of the gait. Forbsey made a good point that if they are out an extended period of time(I heard Getz might be back this weekend) than a couple games in Portland to get their legs back wouldn't hurt at all.