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X-SHARKIE 10-06-2003, 07:33 PM 7th in the west
Pacific Division:
1. Dallas Stars 99 Points
2. San Jose Sharks 93 points
3. Anaheim Mighty Ducks 89 points
4. Los Angelas Kings 86 points
5. Phoenix Coyotes 67 points
Sharks Goal leaders
1. Patrick Marleau 37 G
2. Marco Sturm 31 G
3. Scott Thorton 22 G
4. Vincent Damphouse 21 G
5. Johnothan Cheecho/ Mike Ricci 18 G
Sharks Assist Leaders
1. Vincent Damphouse 41 A
2. Allyn McCaulley 39 A
3. Mike Ricci 36 A
4. Marco Sturm 35 A/ Jim Fahey 35 A
5. Scott Thorton 27 A
Sharks PIM leaders
1. Kyle McClaren
2. Scott Parker
3. Wayne Primeau
4. Brad Stuart
5. Scott Thorton
Sharks Most Improved Player: Wayne Primeau
Sharks Rookie of the year: Milan Michalek
Sharks MVP : Evgeni Nabakov
Sharks are going to start off hot. I think having a road trip to start the year well really help. The star vets are gone so young guys well emerge. Marleau, Sturm, Nabakov, Stuart, Fahey,Hannan,McClaren, Ehrhoff, Michalek, Cheecho well all have stellar years. Ekman and Primeau well dig them selves out of the leagues forgotten pit of players. They well be keys for the Sharks this season. As well Parker. One of Parker and Primeau is gonna pull a Thorton this year. Dont expect alot from Korolyuk he'll be inconsistant as ever. Michalek and Ehrhoff well be getting much praise. Although I expect Staal to win the calder. I think the Defense and Nabakov well be the saviors. Marleau is gonna round his game this year. He's going to be more physical and well try to score alot more. Ricci should be captain. Or else I think McClaren should be. Allyn McCaulley is gonna be a go to guy. All in all I like the Sharks chances this year.
sharkyz15 10-06-2003, 08:46 PM 1 dallas
2 sharks
3 LA
4 Ana
5 yotes
sharks finish 5th in west
blues, wild, ducks wild card avs will all witness dropp offs
marleau 35g
sturm 29
thorton 23
MaCauly 21
Cheecho 19
MVP NABBY
ROY MICHALEK (14g 13a; he will be used in all aspects of the game {calder finalist}
most improved MaCauly
Sharks will start off hot. Nabby will have a huge part to do with that. Look for Chris Erhoff to have a gwg in the 1st road trip. THis sched looks like it can be real healpful. I always liked starting out on the road because you are always focused, then when we come home we face the sens a good test (although the are a bit overated) and phily who we always play tough. You cant win a playoff spot in the 1st month of the sesone but you sure can loose on.
Baron Von Shark 10-06-2003, 09:28 PM http://i.timeinc.net/parenting/features/images/lop_simpson.jpg
Russian Fan 10-06-2003, 11:04 PM http://i.timeinc.net/parenting/features/images/lop_simpson.jpg
I agree but how about this
http://smacie.com/randomizer/simpsons/homer.html?Homer.x=101&Homer.y=171
I LOVE THE SHARKS but 93 pts is not optimistic it's being stone by drinking too many Car Washer Fluid.
Russian Fan 10-06-2003, 11:06 PM http://i.timeinc.net/parenting/features/images/lop_simpson.jpg
I agree but how about this
http://www.thesimpsons.com/bios/images/bios_family_homer.gif
I LOVE THE SHARKS but 93 pts is not optimistic it's being stone by drinking too many Car Washer Fluid.
Friesenh2o 10-07-2003, 12:13 AM If X wasn't such a post *****, people might actually care about what he posts!
X-SHARKIE 10-07-2003, 05:30 AM Stop it i'm blushing ..... Post your own predictions...I gave you mine.
Stop it i'm blushing ..... Post your own predictions...I gave you mine.
Are you sure it's yours? There is not a single typo in the whole thread and the vocabulary is at a level never before exhibited by you. Fess up. Who typed this for you? :)
Strizzi 10-07-2003, 11:03 AM Are you sure it's yours? There is not a single typo in the whole thread and the vocabulary is at a level never before exhibited by you. Fess up. Who typed this for you? :)
Are you sure you can correctly locate typos? :rolleyes:
Serena587 10-07-2003, 11:19 AM Are you sure it's yours? There is not a single typo in the whole thread and the vocabulary is at a level never before exhibited by you. Fess up. Who typed this for you? :)
Aw, come on....give the kid a break!! Now people are teasing him for improving?? :rolly:
I think he got fed up and decided to improve on his own. Good for you, Max!! :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
Hold the Pickles 10-07-2003, 11:43 AM Sharks ins and outs eh...
How bout, Sharks outta da cellar and inta da playoffs?
Figured someone had to make up for the lack of typos.
gruntsplatter 10-07-2003, 11:48 AM I'm listening to NHL Live, and both these guys seem to feel pretty strongly the Sharks are a playoff team. Kinda surprised me, not because I don't believe it, but because most of the pundits I've seen thus far don't seem to give them a chance in hell.
Los Tiburones 10-07-2003, 12:18 PM I'm listening to NHL Live, and both these guys seem to feel pretty strongly the Sharks are a playoff team. Kinda surprised me, not because I don't believe it, but because most of the pundits I've seen thus far don't seem to give them a chance in hell.
Speaking of whores, Kara Yoria (of Sporting News) is on crack. She picked the Sharks to win the Pacific. :joker: I just couldn't resist tying into the theme that way, sorry for the bad taste.
There is a wide discrepancy between what pundits think. The guy on SI thinks the Sharks suck, last in the division. Whereas Yorio/a (sp?) picked the Sharks to win. I think after last year, where Anaheim and Minnesota was the Western Conference Final, no one knows what to make any more of the whole conference.
My personal opinion is that the Sharks will be somewhere between 7th and 10th. Sharks will probably finish in the top half in goals against, even if they get vastly outshot b/c of Nabby, but in the bottom half in goals for. I just don't know who's going to do the scoring, and I don't see a whole lot of answers. If Michalek is going to be a ROY candidate he better finish with more like 60-70 points. 35 to 40 may be good for a defenseman, but when you have a rookie class like this one if you want to win the Calder as a forward you better DOMINATE.
As I said in another thread, Max is actually trying to spell well now. I always knew he had it in him. Its hard to take someone seriously when EVERY other word is misspelled.
Los Tiburones 10-07-2003, 12:28 PM Btw, here are my predicted Western Conference Standings and some reasoning:
1. Detroit - What is wrong with this team?
2. Colorado - Maybe a little shallow at D, G.
3. Los Angeles - If this team gets healthy AT ALL, they will be amazing offensively. Highest scoring team in the whole league.
4. St. Louis - They did well last well without Pronger, they'll be good this year too.
5. Vancouver - I could be very wrong here, but there haven't been many changes here.
6. Anaheim - I don't see the Ducks doing any better than this. Adding Federov is good, he's definitely better than Kariya, but teams like this always seem to have a malaise after doing well the year before.
7. Edmonton - Edmonton seems to always sneak into the playoffs.
8. Dallas - Losing Hatcher/Sydor makes this team much worse.
9. San Jose
10. Chicago - Too young. Too much Thibault goodness last year. He won't be as good next year.
11. Minnesota - No Gaborik. No real improvement. Ditto the Ducks.
12. Calgary - the last 3 teams all suck, no scoring.
13. Nashville
14. Phoenix
15. Columbus
Speaking of whores, Kara Yoria (of Sporting News) is on crack. She picked the Sharks to win the Pacific. She did?!?! Hahahahaha. Link please!
Stop it i'm blushing ..... Post your own predictions...I gave you mine.Congrats to Max! That's the first post I've seen without a spelling or wording error! :handclap:
My predictions:
1. Detroit - The team to beat.
2. Colorado - Will be fine with Aebischer.
3. Vancouver - Another year of high scoring, both for the 'nucks and the other team.
4. St. Louis - They have talent, but they also slump.
5. Anaheim - (Fedorov + Prospal) - (Oates + Kariya) = Upgrade
6. Dallas - If they gel without Hatcher, then they'll do a bit better.
7. Edmonton - Like LT said, will sneak into playoffs.
8. Los Angeles - Cechmanek will guide them along with underrated D.
9. San Jose - Just missed it!
10. Minnesota - Darkhorse if Gaborik and Dupuis signs.
11. Nashville - Just missed it II.
12. Calgary - Sutter-lead team can't finish bottom-of-the-pack.
13. Chicago - Waiting to see Ruutu.
14. Phoenix - Is Doan for trade?
15. Columbus - Slowly... but surely...
Strizzi 10-07-2003, 02:08 PM 1. Detroit - What is wrong with this team?
The fact that they don't have a great center at all. Even our Sharks are better in that department.
Hockeycrazed07 10-07-2003, 03:53 PM The fact that they don't have a great center at all. Even our Sharks are better in that department.
Though he'll probably play some on the left side this year, I'd still take Yzerman, busted knee and all, over anyone in teal. What he lacks in offense (and now mobility) he more than makes up for with heart and determination, something that we didn't see much of in SJ last year.
~Crazed.
EDIT: You may have been comparing the Wings' C's to the rest of the West, in which case I'll concede Colorado's Big 2 in Sakic and Fors, but aside them, and Sergei Fedorov, when he wants to play, No other C's spring to mind that I'd take before Stevie Y. I'd take him before Morrisson, for sure, and on par with any of the heartless wonders in St. Louis. Modano, admittedly, is a better C, but even so, it's not to say Detroit has no centres...they're quite literally swimming in them. Dats and Hetterberg are both natural C's, and they've got a short 2nd Rounder named Hudler that should make the team soon, if not this year. They are by no means weak up the middle. In fact, other than Hull, their right side leaves more to be desired than the pivot position.
Hold the Pickles 10-07-2003, 04:28 PM 5. Anaheim - (Fedorov + Prospal) - (Oates + Kariya) = Upgrade
Don't forget to subract giguere coming down from that cloud either--which WILL happen IMO. Also there may be some gel time before FP>KO. Let alone I doubt teams will be taking the defending WCC's as lightly as the ducks were in the 1st half of last season.
In other words, I sincerely doubt the ducks will do anywhere near as well as they did last year.
Edit = added a 'T' to 'he' for the
Transplanted Caper 10-07-2003, 04:43 PM The only prediction im going to make for the Sharks is a breakthrough year for Macauly. I really hopes it comes true because he deserves it. After being put to the backburner in T.O in favour of ppl like Hoglund and Reichel I want to see Alyn get a good chance this year. Im guessing a 20 goal season and about 55-60 points in total.
Los Tiburones 10-07-2003, 04:50 PM It was in the magazine, see if you can find it online. But, I guarantee you I'm not making it up. I think she basically felt that this is the same team that one the Pacific two years ago (Nabby + good D), either that or she just recycled the numbers from last year. Seemed a little too high on Korky to be taken seriously. But, I got a good laugh (twice now with the crack ***** joke) at her expense.
Wings are definitely good enough down the middle. They certainly have the blueliners of all blueliners, and you have to think that either Hasek or Legace can play well. Those forwards don't suck either even if they are a little long in the tooth.
I noticed that there is a general consensus that Anaheim and Minnesota are both teams that people think will slip. With that in mind, here is my new list, odds (by percentage of teams missing the playoffs). Yes I realize that the numbers won't add up perfectly since it should equal 700%.
Detroit - 0%, Colorado - 10%, St. Louis - 20%, Dallas - 20%, Van - 25%, Ana - 40%, LA - 35%, Edmonton - 45%, San Jose 50%, Chicago 55%, Minnesota = 55%, Nashville = 60%, Phoenix = 60%, Calgary = 75%, Columbus = 80%.
DynamoAO 10-07-2003, 05:03 PM That's the first post I've seen without a spelling or wording error! :handclap:
LOL, look harder :x. Damphousse,Cheechoo,Los Angeles are all spelled wrong and he still has a hard time comprehending that, "well" does not equal "will".It is a major improvement though.
As for predictions, I wouldnt say the playoffs are a longshot.IFFFFFF Stuie can come back to 100% after the first 1-2 months,Michalek plays incredible defensive hockey and contributes even 25-30 points in the regular season and Nabby of now becomes the Nabby of old again the sharks could easily get the 6-8 in the West.
blues, wild, ducks wild card avs will all witness dropp offs
AND
ROY MICHALEK (14g 13a; he will be used in all aspects of the game {calder finalist}
Blues? Drop off? At worst they will break even with last years standings. Jackman has a year more of seasoning, Tkachuk is healthy again, Ozzy for a full season and some Pronger guy is coming back, Ive got no idea what kind of impact THAT guy will bring.
Michalek COULD be a ROTY finalist. I dont think hes got the offensive flare to though, especially with the competition he's gotta go against.Staal,Sejna,Semin and Koltsov are all geared to play on their top 2 lines respectively. Horton is signed as well, and if he gets as much ice time as Michalek, he will be looked on to score more.
Wild GM 10-07-2003, 05:43 PM 1)Detroit
2)Colorado
3)Dallas
4)Vancouver
5)St Louis
6)San Jose
7)Edmonton
8)Anaheim
9)Nashville
10)Los Angeles
11)Minnesota
12)Calgary
13)Columbus
14)Phoenix
15)Chicago
X-SHARKIE 10-07-2003, 06:37 PM Be honest. Does anyone actually read what I say to see what I have to say about things? Or do you just look for spelling and grammar arrors?
:rolly:
DynamoAO 10-07-2003, 07:43 PM Be honest. Does anyone actually read what I say to see what I have to say about things? Or do you just look for spelling and grammar arrors?
:rolly:
Nope, free booze.
X-SHARKIE 10-07-2003, 07:58 PM Nope, free booze.
?? I didnt get it.
DynamoAO 10-07-2003, 08:01 PM ?? I didnt get it.
You didnt get the free booze?! See that guy at the door??, his name is Patty, ask him for some.
Strizzi 10-07-2003, 11:36 PM Though he'll probably play some on the left side this year, I'd still take Yzerman, busted knee and all, over anyone in teal. What he lacks in offense (and now mobility) he more than makes up for with heart and determination, something that we didn't see much of in SJ last year.
~Crazed.
EDIT: You may have been comparing the Wings' C's to the rest of the West, in which case I'll concede Colorado's Big 2 in Sakic and Fors, but aside them, and Sergei Fedorov, when he wants to play, No other C's spring to mind that I'd take before Stevie Y. I'd take him before Morrisson, for sure, and on par with any of the heartless wonders in St. Louis. Modano, admittedly, is a better C, but even so, it's not to say Detroit has no centres...they're quite literally swimming in them. Dats and Hetterberg are both natural C's, and they've got a short 2nd Rounder named Hudler that should make the team soon, if not this year. They are by no means weak up the middle. In fact, other than Hull, their right side leaves more to be desired than the pivot position.
OK, I probably went a bit too far with mentioning the Sharks. But Colorado is miles ahead in terms of centers, Dallas is clearly better as well, and Anaheim arguably too. Especially when you consider that it's not granted yet that Stevie Y will be able to play much this year.
vilpertti 10-08-2003, 01:59 AM I've heard that Stevie's injured so he cant play C... Can't get down to take faceoffs efficiently...
rekrul 10-08-2003, 09:28 AM Pacific:
1)Anaheim
2) Dallas
3) Sharks
4 ) LA
5) Phoenix
Put me in the Anaheim is better with Prospal and Federov, Federov is still probably one of the best 2 way centers ( if not the best ) around, its going to make this team far better, he has something to prove as well no worries for motivation. Only Guigere comming down from last year, a distict possiblity.
Where is all of the notion that Dallas is going to be fine with out Hatcher? Its a lot bigger loss than most will concede from Dallas, Turco has had a late camp too.
That said both will be strong playoff contenders, the bottom 3 will probably be close 90 pts but anywhere 9-11 in Conf.
Sharks- hopefully a tougher team to play, most likely more energetic D but really the forwards on the roster I doubt will be enough to take this team to the playoffs ( by mid season Korlyuk will be the official 'whipping boy'). Stuart sadly is now almost looking like a career of what could have been, a healthy Stuart would be the differance possibly but he can't seem to play a full season any more. To expect full development is very unlikely. To a lesser exptent McLaren also has injury issues, I expect the youth of the sharks- pressling/Errhof/davidson/ and even Murry come Jan to be given plenty of ice time.
biggest question to me is simply will this team be entertaining? Goals for likely to be the same, Goals against should come down, will these be boring 2-1 affairs or will the sharks new youth and speed create exciting scoring chances make you want to see the sharks develop.
Hockeycrazed07 10-08-2003, 11:42 AM Face-offs and playing centre are only loosely mixed. Patty Marleau has become one of SJ's best face-off guys, and we've been clamoring for him to move the the left side for years now. Wingers most definately can and often do take draws. If you think about it, it only makes sense, as draws are along the boards unless by special rule or in the centre face-off circles.
That said, I mentioned that Yzerman would likely play some on the left side this year. I also gave 3 of Detroit's 4 other C's, without including the Grind Line, which is obvious. While inexperienced, they're still among the tops up the middle. Their right side is much more of a concern to me.
SJ has a history of showing up to 2-1 games. Recall, if you will, the first and second playoff years, when you quite literally couldn't find a spot in the Tank to sit. Entertaining is nothing. These fans want to win. (Of course, it's a lot harder to draw new fans with 2-1 hockey, but Carolina seemed to do fine.)
~Crazed.
X-SHARKIE 03-30-2004, 10:29 PM Just dug this up for good laughs.
Hockeycrazed07 03-30-2004, 10:46 PM Speaking of whores, Kara Yoria (of Sporting News) is on crack. She picked the Sharks to win the Pacific.
:amazed: :eek:
Where do I get some of the stuff she was on? Maybe she and Nostrodamus had the same type...
~Crazed.
X-SHARKIE 03-30-2004, 11:13 PM :amazed: :eek:
Where do I get some of the stuff she was on? Maybe she and Nostrodamus had the same type...
~Crazed.
Yeah looking over it, I think Los Tiburones made some of the worst predictions haha. :bow: :jump: AND WHO DOESNT LOVE THESE NEW FACES!
AvengerK 03-31-2004, 02:10 AM Good find. Let's all be shocked and amazed at what a turn the Sharks have taken.
Baron Von Shark 03-31-2004, 03:37 AM Gotta hand it to X. His homerism had me laughing, but now I hang my head down in shame. I underestimated this team, big time!
:amazed: :eek:
Where do I get some of the stuff she was on? Maybe she and Nostrodamus had the same type...
~Crazed.No kidding. I was laughing as hard as anyone when I heard her predictions. Now I only laugh at how stupid it was to laugh it off in the first place.
mage23 03-31-2004, 05:29 AM Now where's the thread where I predicted that the Ducks wouldn't be as good this year, and wouldn't make the playoffs? It's out there somewhere, but I'm not going to go digging :)
Hold the Pickles 03-31-2004, 03:20 PM Yeah I remember that prediction. I thought, "What do we have here...A closet homer sharks fan?" Though I had a feeling SJ would make the PO's, her predictions just seemed a bit too optimistic--Especially after that 1st month.
She either is a genius or had a horseshoe crammed up a really dark place.
Los Tiburones 03-31-2004, 06:10 PM Yeah I remember that prediction. I thought, "What do we have here...A closet homer sharks fan?" Though I had a feeling SJ would make the PO's, her predictions just seemed a bit too optimistic--Especially after that 1st month.
She either is a genius or had a horseshoe crammed up a really dark place.
That post is still really in really bad taste.... I can't believe I wrote that.
My predictions werent that bad. I think mostly I had LA being better than they actually were, but that's because they were injured all year. Sharks have just been amazing this year. I correctly mentioned that I thought Anaheim was a good candidate to fall. I correctly mentioned that Minnesota wouldn't be as good. I correctly mentioned that the Stars wouldn't be as good.
sharkyz15 03-31-2004, 07:57 PM [QUOTE=sharkyz15]1 dallas
2 sharks
3 LA
4 Ana
5 yotes
sharks finish 5th in west
blues, wild, ducks wild card avs will all witness dropp offs
marleau 35g
sturm 29
thorton 23
MaCauly 21
Cheecho 19
MVP NABBY
ROY MICHALEK (14g 13a; he will be used in all aspects of the game {calder finalist}
most improved MaCauly
Sharks will start off hot. Nabby will have a huge part to do with that. Look for Chris Erhoff to have a gwg in the 1st road trip. THis sched looks like it can be real healpful. I always liked starting out on the road because you are always focused, then when we come home we face the sens a good test (although the are a bit overated) and phily who we always play tough. You cant win a playoff spot in the 1st month of the sesone but you sure can loose on.[/QUOTI was dead on those drop off predictions
sharkyz15 03-31-2004, 07:58 PM [QUOTE=sharkyz15][QUOTE=sharkyz15]1 dallas
2 sharks
3 LA
4 Ana
5 yotes
sharks finish 5th in west
blues, wild, ducks wild card avs will all witness dropp offs
marleau 35g
sturm 29
thorton 23
MaCauly 21
Cheecho 19
MVP NABBY
ROY MICHALEK (14g 13a; he will be used in all aspects of the game {calder finalist}
most improved MaCauly
Sharks will start off hot. Nabby will have a huge part to do with that. Look for Chris Erhoff to have a gwg in the 1st road trip. THis sched looks like it can be real healpful. I always liked starting out on the road because you are always focused, then when we come home we face the sens a good test (although the are a bit overated) and phily who we always play tough. You cant win a playoff spot in the 1st month of the sesone but you sure can loose on
I was dead on the drop off predictions
ModestoFan 04-01-2004, 04:22 AM ok, here goes some of my 10, in no particular order. BTW, some of this was in another thread so sorry for the re-hash.
1. San Jose makes the playoffs finishing 3rd through 6th.
2. Vinnie Damhpousse will lead the forwards in points (assists).
3. Marleau will lead in goals.
4. Nabby plays a .914 S% with a 2.12 GAA.
5. Kyle McLaren leads SJ in hits this season.
6. Korky and Sturm both get over 40 pts for the season.
Need to run...i'll finish later tongiht.
ok, finishing...
7. Scott Parker is 4th line irregular. Also, primeau and smith share 4th line centering. The entire 4th line combines for 25 goals.
8. Ricci and Thornton both play excellent, but are nagged by returning injuries and will miss between 15-20 games.
9. Marleau will be SJ's MVP (even though it should go to Nabby)
10. SJ has the most improved point total, and most improved PK. SJ also leads the league in SH goals.
IN Closing, yes 3rd through 6th for a playoff berth. I see SJ taking the Pacific again if everything goes somewhat according to plan. Dallas or LA are the only teams possible for taking the division instead of us. Everything points to a good year. Teams will underestimate us, and as we get closer to the AS break, SJ will be in the thick of a 3 team race for the pacific. If we can pull some key wins out early in the season over some other division rivals, then I see SJ making a 7 month run to the playoffs.
Realistic....maybe not, Optimistic, you bet! If things "gel" the way we all hope they do, then SJ could be a fairytale team come the spring. I have no doubts that when SJ makes the playoffs, my happiness is fulfilled, as the Playoffs aren't to friendly to SJ.
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That said.....I wasn't to far off! :banana:
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