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caliamad

10-05-2003, 02:53 PM

What are the Ducks possible lines for the year?

From what I've heard:

Smirnov Federov Sykora
Prospal Ruchin Niedermayer
Lupul Pahlson Chistov
Johnson Krog Severson/Burnett

Extra: Holmqvist

Smirnov is not a lock on line 1, and may have actually lost the spot in the last game. Possibly Niedermayer could take his spot with Chistov bumping up to 2nd line, and Smirnov falling to 3rd.

Severson/Burnett are fighting for the enforcer role.

Getzalf hasn't been officially cut yet, but most think its imminent.

Defense:

Salei Ozolinsh
Sauer Halvelid
Simpson Vishnevski

Extra: Ward

Popovic is looking to get cut any day.

Carney is out 3-4 weeks, after that, who knows who gets scatched. They are rumors Vish could be traded.

thats all folks.

Jshibley

10-05-2003, 03:27 PM

It will be very intresting to see what happens when mcdonald gets back. Remember opening day last year the ling of McDonald, Chistov, and Smirinov.....

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-05-2003, 04:36 PM

Smirnov fell off the edge off the planet after that, but the other two scored at a decent clip for 3rd-liners.

Duckstudd269

10-05-2003, 10:40 PM

What are the Ducks possible lines for the year?

could we see these lines??

andymac- Federov- sykora

prospal- Rooch- Nieds

Chistov- Sammi- Lupul

Johnson- krog- burnett/ severson

if andymac isnt back, i expect smirnov to play and if that happens i could see these lines..

chistov- Feds- sykora

prospal- Rooch- Nieds

smirnov/andymac- Sammi- Lupul

johnson- krog- severson/burnett

McDonald19

10-06-2003, 04:07 AM

My prediction is that McDonald won't play either of the 2 road games but will instead get into the lineup for the home opener.

My forward lines for Wednesday:
Smirnov-Federov-Sykora
Niedermayer-Rucchin-Prospal
Chistov-Pahlsson-Lupul
Johnson-Krog-Burnett

scratched: Holmqvist, McDonald

I think Holmqvist will get in the lineup possibly in Johnson's spot for game 2 vs Nashville. I dont really like Smirnov on the 1st line but it seems to be what Babcock wants to do. If Smirnov looks bad for the first 2 games, Chistov could be moved up if McDonald would be better suited to playing 3rd line rather than be thrown onto the first line right away.

McDonald19

10-06-2003, 04:09 AM

could we see these lines??

andymac- Federov- sykora

prospal- Rooch- Nieds

Chistov- Sammi- Lupul

Johnson- krog- burnett/ severson

if andymac isnt back, i expect smirnov to play and if that happens i could see these lines..

chistov- Feds- sykora

prospal- Rooch- Nieds

smirnov/andymac- Sammi- Lupul

johnson- krog- severson/burnett

I agree with you there...I'd prefer to see Chistov on the first line and Smirnov on the third...but unfortunately it seems like it will be the other way around. Chistov is comfortable with Pahlsson on the third line and Babcock wants to give Smirnov a chance with Federov for some reason.

Andy will probably not play the 2 road games so it looks like Smirnov will get a chance to prove his worth.

Professor John Frink

10-06-2003, 08:52 AM

I agree with you there...I'd prefer to see Chistov on the first line and Smirnov on the third...but unfortunately it seems like it will be the other way around. Chistov is comfortable with Pahlsson on the third line and Babcock wants to give Smirnov a chance with Federov for some reason.

Andy will probably not play the 2 road games so it looks like Smirnov will get a chance to prove his worth.

What they are trying to do is develop Smirnov on the job. They are hoping playing on the top line with Feds will give him the confidence to play like Babcock thinks he can.

But don't kid yourself, this will be a short lived experiment if the line or team doesn't perform to start the season.

HockeyNight

10-06-2003, 09:19 AM

they have this on the La times today

"McDonald's future may affect Lupul, or even second-year players Stanislav Chistov and Alexei Smirnov, who both had less-than-impressive training camps. McDonald said he would return within the next couple of weeks and did not rule out playing against Dallas in Wednesday's opener."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckrep6oct06,1,5925056.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks

I dont think they'll sent down Chistov.. but hopefully it be Smirnov..

I can see mcdonald at the top two lines.

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-06-2003, 10:40 AM

I don't think they can send either down without them having to clear waivers. Which obviously wouldn't happen.

190Octane

10-06-2003, 10:45 AM

I believe they can until they're eligable for the waiver draft, I could be wrong though.

quad

10-06-2003, 11:12 AM

I don't think they can send either down without them having to clear waivers. Which obviously wouldn't happen.

Neither will have to be send down if Andy Mac is ready play. We already have Leclerc and Carney on the IR list.
Smirnov will most likely start on the top unit. Not sure why but I remember last year Chistov was far away from having an inspiring Training camp and he was on the team in St.Louis. Coaches see the players day in and day out so they have a better feel how one will perform once it counts. Smirnov from a size and skill point of few makes a lot of sense to play with Feds and Sykora. He would be the guy that digs the pucks out of the corner and crashes the net - it just hasn't happened yet.
As for Andy Mace - well I remember all to well last year when Mike Babcock was asked which is the best line the Ducks have - his answers: Whatever line Andy plays on.
This will be a hugh boost if he comes back. A 3rd line with Chistov/McDonald/Lupul could create havoc in the opposent's D-Zone night in and night out.

McDonald19

10-06-2003, 12:22 PM

I don't think they can send either down without them having to clear waivers. Which obviously wouldn't happen.

They wouldnt have to clear waivers yet until they are older or play more games.

soya_sauce_chicken

10-06-2003, 07:17 PM

I saw on a website that what looks to be a fairly good prediction..

?-Fedorov-Sykora
Prospal-Rucchin-Krog(i think)
Chistov-Phallson-?

Forgot exactly who the lines were but it looked like that...

Duckstudd269

10-06-2003, 07:40 PM

since the recent send downs.. can we see these lines?

smirnov/andymac- feds- sykora

prospal- Rooch- Nieds

chisov- Phalsson- Lupul

Johnson- krog- Burnett

does anyone think Lupul can play left wing? cause if he could i think these would be great lines..

Lupul- Feds- Sykora

Prospal- Rooch- Nieds

Chistov- Phalsson- krog

Holmqvist- Johnson- Burnett

I think those lines would be awesome, Lupul would show us more then Smirnov, and when.. andymac gets back make the lines this

andymac- Feds- Sykora

Prospal- Rooch- Nieds

chistov- Phalsson- Lupul

Johnson/ Holmqvist- krog- Burnett

anybody agree with me on these?

LeafSadist

10-06-2003, 08:02 PM

What happened to Mike Leclerc? From what I saw he was at least a 2nd line player, if not 3rd line.

duckjob

10-06-2003, 08:17 PM

I think those lines would be awesome, Lupul would show us more then Smirnov, and when.. andymac gets back make the lines this

andymac- Feds- Sykora

Prospal- Rooch- Nieds

chistov- Phalsson- Lupul

Johnson/ Holmqvist- krog- Burnett

anybody agree with me on these?

this is how i personaly think the lines will end up. Kinda creates a problem when Leclrec comes back. He should be on the third line which would bump lupul to the fourth which would not be good for him. My brain hurts thinking about all these scenarios, 48 more hours... :)

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-06-2003, 08:55 PM

What happened to Mike Leclerc? From what I saw he was at least a 2nd line player, if not 3rd line.
He had knee surgery. He'll be back in December.

cheesymc

10-06-2003, 09:12 PM

duckjob

10-06-2003, 09:50 PM

I think that should be the lineup... assuming Andy can get back into form. Once Leclerc comes back, Lupol and Smirnov should both be in Cincy...

Id like Prospal to switch with Sykora though...

I think we still need to trade cause 50+ million is high... i dont want our team to get Rangeritis

54 isn't THAT bad, and i don't know if that includes the signing bonus's for federov and prospal. If it does, then our normal payroll will be about 49-50 mil, which for the team we have is very respectable.

McDonald19

10-06-2003, 11:37 PM

From Tuesday's LA TIMES:

Jason Krog, who began last season with minor league Cincinnati, will get a shot at playing on the Ducks' first line with Sergei Fedorov and Rob Niedermayer. Krog has spent the last two days of practice skating with those two.

"Sergei creates so many scoring creates that you have to always be ready," said Krog, who scored 10 goals last season and three more during the playoffs. "He makes a lot of plays that other guys can't."

...so the top two lines to start the season will be...
1st-Niedermayer-Federov-Krog
2nd-Prospal-Rucchin-Sykora

3rd line is probably Chistov-Pahlsson-Lupul

Jshibley

10-07-2003, 02:56 AM

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-07-2003, 06:55 AM

Krog-Fedorov-Niedermayer. Jesus jumped up and played the fiddle.

I guess Chistov really didn't impress Babcock too much.

soya_sauce_chicken

10-07-2003, 07:59 AM

ok.. i found it
it's
smirnov-fedorov-sykora
Prospal-Rucchin-Neidermeyer
Chistov-Phallson-Lupul
Johnson-Krog-Severson

mtyduk8

10-07-2003, 08:30 AM

Krog-Fedorov-Niedermayer. Jesus jumped up and played the fiddle.

I guess Chistov really didn't impress Babcock too much.

Niedermayer-Fedorov-Krog
Prospal-Rucchin-Sykora
Chistov-Pahlsson-Lupul
Johnson-Holmqvist-Smirnov/Burnett

Ozolinsh, Sauer
Salei, Havelid
Simpson, Vishnevski/Ward

Giguere/Gerber

SPARES: MacDonald
INJURIES: Carney, Leclerc, Bylsma

cheesymc

10-07-2003, 09:06 AM

Ehhh.... who cares, it aint my money.... Spend Murray Spend!!!!!!!!

Muhahaha

fez

10-07-2003, 01:48 PM

Wow never expected Krog to make the first line, might have to drop Cheese for him in my fantasy pool.

Duckstudd269

10-07-2003, 08:09 PM

Krog-Fedorov-Niedermayer. Jesus jumped up and played the fiddle.

I guess Chistov really didn't impress Babcock too much.

I dont think Babcock likes chistov at all really, he loves players with great work ethic, and lets face it thats chistov's weakness.

Krog on the 1st line isnt a bad idea i guess, but where does andymac go when he gets back? i mean do we keep krog where he is, when mac gets back. I would personally rather see Mac on the top lines. making the lines maybe this...

andymac- Feds- Nieds

prospal- Rooch- Sykora

chistov- Phalsson- Lupul

Johnson/Holmqvist- krog- Burnett

i think, nieds and sykora should switch, maybe switch krog and Phalsson, damn all these possibilities, thank god opening night is tomorrow

Hordichuk_24

10-07-2003, 09:25 PM

Does anyone know if Simpson is going to play tomorrow night???

Jshibley

10-07-2003, 09:27 PM

Does anyone know if Simpson is going to play tomorrow night???

Yes he is suposed to be in the line-up tomorow night, I look forward to seeing him in his new ducks uniform.

McDonald19

10-07-2003, 10:01 PM

Does anyone know if Simpson is going to play tomorrow night???

Yeah I can't imagine them playing Ward instead of Simpson.
Simpson should be in the lineup.

Hordichuk_24

10-07-2003, 11:46 PM

Yeah I can't imagine them playing Ward instead of Simpson.
Simpson should be in the lineup.

Thanks!!!

McDonald19

10-08-2003, 09:06 AM

Pwnasaurus

10-08-2003, 09:19 AM

Heres the OC REGISTER'S lines from todays paper:

1st line LW Jason Krog, C Sergei Federov, RW Rob Niedermayer
2nd line LW Vaclav Prospal, C Steve Rucchin, RW Petr Sykora
3rd line LW Stanislav Chistov, C Samuel Pahlsson, RW Joffrey Lupul
4th line LW Garrett Burnett, C Craig Johnson, RW Alexei Smirnov

1st D Sandis Ozolinsh and Kurt Sauer
2nd D Ruslan Salei and Todd Simpson
3rd D Niclas Havelid and Vitaly Vishnevski

lines look pretty good to me...i like the third line :handclap:

scratches would be: Holmqvist, Ward, and McDonald(should be healthy for home opener i hope)

I assume Holmqvist will take Smirnov's spot in the lineup vs Nashville...not sure if Ward will get in the lineup vs Nash though.

Was Krog really that impressive in camp or was Chistov really that bad? I didn't have a chance to watch any of the games but from the box scores it didn't seem like Krog was tearing it up or anything...is this just a matter of Krog having something that Babcock wants to see on the 1st line with Feds?

McDonald19

10-08-2003, 09:25 AM

Was Krog really that impressive in camp or was Chistov really that bad? I didn't have a chance to watch any of the games but from the box scores it didn't seem like Krog was tearing it up or anything...is this just a matter of Krog having something that Babcock wants to see on the 1st line with Feds?

Well Chistov seems more comfortable playing on the third line with Pahlsson. Babcock seemed to be giving Smirnov a chance at the first line spot, but now hes dropped all the way to the fourth line. I think Babcock wanted a right handed goal scorer to play with Federov. Krog scored 10 goals last year playing on a lot of different lines. If he was able to play a whole season with Federov he would get alteast 20 goals in my opinion. Hopefully Krog takes advantage of the opportunity and keeps his spot on the first line. Although he was a great college player he may be a late bloomer in the NHL...at 27 he could have his first 20 goal season.

Snap Wilson

10-08-2003, 09:50 AM

Krog *did* tear it up in preseason, although it was filling in at center for Rooch between Prospal and Niedermayer. He's also fast, faster than Chistov in my opinion. The kid had ten goals last year in, what, 46 games? Playing 10 minutes a night? He's got some touch. Let's see what he can do.

Kevin Forbes

10-08-2003, 10:50 AM

I wouldn't read too much into this
Babcock is probably just doing it to reward Krog for good work or something, more ceremonial then anything else IMO, spreads out the scoring a bit....
either way, I would highly doubt this will be a line set in stone and from the way Babcock juggles the lineup, I'll be surprised if that's still a unit by the end of the 2nd period.

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-08-2003, 11:12 AM

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-08-2003, 12:15 PM

Sent to Cincy.

Kevin Forbes

10-08-2003, 12:56 PM

to make room for McDonald, who returns from missing most of last year due to concussions
EDIT: Arankys, for more information on how it all works out with our new players and stuff, check out the latest Ducks article on Hockey's Future, I wrote it up yesterday so it's pretty recent stuff

mmbt

10-08-2003, 02:08 PM

Krog is always impressive, while Chistov tends to disappear for stretches.

I wouldn't say Krog is always impressive, though he does bust his ass all the time. There were times in the playoffs where he was easily contained due to his lack of size, and while he has some skill it's not quite at the level you'd like for a guy his size. Sure, Chistov is more inconsistent, but unlike Krog there are times he can create something out of nothing.

If only you could combine the two into one player. And maybe put it all into Smirnov's body.

Proffessor G DIDDY

10-08-2003, 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=mmbt] Sure, Chistov is more inconsistent, but unlike Krog there are times he can create something out of nothing.

If only you could combine the two into one player. And maybe put it all into Smirnov's body.[/QUOTE

I thought Chistov was pretty good last season, a player of his size and background might take a season or 2 to achieve his true potential. And Krog can create out of nothing, last yr on that fourth line he scored some really clinch goals, eg game 4 vs Detriot slapper from to right circle, to give Anaheim the lead.

Kevin Forbes

10-08-2003, 03:19 PM

also keep in mind that Chistov played hockey last season after basically taking a season off and not playing at all during the Russian Army/club teams legal battle

Spankatola Jamnuts

10-08-2003, 04:18 PM

I wouldn't say Krog is always impressive, though he does bust his ass all the time. There were times in the playoffs where he was easily contained due to his lack of size, and while he has some skill it's not quite at the level you'd like for a guy his size. Sure, Chistov is more inconsistent, but unlike Krog there are times he can create something out of nothing.

If only you could combine the two into one player. And maybe put it all into Smirnov's body.
Obviously that's what I meant. Not a lot of skill to Krog, but you can't ask for much more effort. Chistov is the exact opposite.

Krog creates about as much as Chistov, I'd say. Just not as spectacularly.