Majesky Fails Physical

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-capitals-majesky&prov=ap&type=lgns

:cry:

Hope Cutta gets healthy... :biglaugh:

Super.

geez...this is what i call preparation.

Majesky, Semin, Sykora, Cassels and the lost Bondra.
oop...forgot Zubrus too...pitiful.

this is getting laughable. next?

sure because they were supposed to know that Cassels was going to get hurt while practicing :sarcasm:

It was public knowledge that Majesky got hurt at the World Championships. I assume they thought he would be rehabbed in time.

geez...this is what i call preparation.

Majesky, Semin, Sykora, Cassels and the lost Bondra.
oop...forgot Zubrus too...pitiful.

this is getting laughable. next?

what do you mean?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-capitals-majesky&prov=ap&type=lgns

:cry:

DOH!

geez...this is what i call preparation.

Majesky, Semin, Sykora, Cassels and the lost Bondra.
oop...forgot Zubrus too...pitiful.

this is getting laughable. next?

Yeah, they should have prepared for Cassels breaking his cheekbone, Bondra not wanting to play in DC and having a donkey for an agent and Zubrus missing a whole week of camp. Oh, the horror.

And now Semin and Sykora are in immigration limbo and Ivan Majesky -- THE Ivan Majesky -- has a boo boo on his knee.

They're gonna finish in double-secret last place now.

Yeah, they should have prepared for Cassels breaking his cheekbone, Bondra not wanting to play in DC and having a donkey for an agent and Zubrus missing a whole week of camp. Oh, the horror.

And now Semin and Sykora are in immigration limbo and Ivan Majesky -- THE Ivan Majesky -- has a boo boo on his knee.

They're gonna finish in double-secret last place now.


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what do you mean?

what i mean is the management of the team isn't managing what little talent they have very well. they can't get two critical players into the country. somehow they didnt get that worked out far enough in advance. if it was one guy, i could accept it as unforeseeable. two makes it more than that.

IMO they lost bondra simply because they wanted to trade him at the deadline again and that was the one thing that he didnt want.

why exactly was zubrus having surgery as to miss the first two weeks of a four week preseason? this is the first ive heard of an injury. they just now decided he needed to fix something?

and then there is majesky. they didnt give him a physical before they signed him?

cassels was bad luck. stuff happens. but it appears to me that zubrus put off a decision on surgery til it means missing two weeks of camp. semin and sykora put off making arrangement to come to work long enough that they can't come to work.

the caps have few nhl ready players and they can't seem to get most of them on the ice. only cassels was an accident. all the rest they had some control over and its not going well for them.

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IMO they lost bondra simply because they wanted to trade him at the deadline again and that was the one thing that he didnt want.
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just out of curiosity, does bondra have a no trade clause in atlanta? i don't remember seeing reports that he does.

what i mean is the management of the team isn't managing what little talent they have very well. they can't get two critical players into the country. somehow they didnt get that worked out far enough in advance. if it was one guy, i could accept it as unforeseeable. two makes it more than that.



Im not sure....but is it the Caps management responsibility to make sure these guys visas are in order? Ive heard of players having these problems before....even canadians.....I think each case is different. Ovechkin got here, as did other euros....are we to assume that they only cared about those guys and not Semin/Sykora? Speaking from experience, these issues can be quite complicated. I dont know the specifics in these cases....maybe you do...but without that its nothing but pure speculation. Could be the teams fault...the players....something beyond eithers control......do you know what the issues are?



IMO they lost bondra simply because they wanted to trade him at the deadline again and that was the one thing that he didnt want.


maybe so....not sure what that part of the Atlanta deal is.....you?


why exactly was zubrus having surgery as to miss the first two weeks of a four week preseason? this is the first ive heard of an injury. they just now decided he needed to fix something?


How long ago did Zubrus sign? How long has he been in the country? seeing how we dont know what the injury is about....its anyones guess. I think its unreasonable to assume that he arrives in the USA, signs contract which may include a physical...and then they rush him off to surgery. Maybe it was one of those things that at first they thought it might not be needed.....even though the Caps have a medical staff they dont own a hospital. Scheduling surgery isnt an overnight thing. Also...its Zubrus.....2 weeks (if thats how long) of missed camp isnt going to change a thing with him. He has been playing all last season and his spot is secured. Too early and not enough info to really slam anyone here IMO


and then there is majesky. they didnt give him a physical before they signed him?


Fly their doctors to europe to give a physical?


cassels was bad luck. stuff happens. but it appears to me that zubrus put off a decision on surgery til it means missing two weeks of camp. semin and sykora put off making arrangement to come to work long enough that they can't come to work.


then why even mention Cassels...really, it only hurts the rest of what you are saying because it seems very...and i apologize to you in advance....but "borro-ish"

As for Zubrus...its easy for us to sit here and yell at someone for not having surgery...its not our body...we have no idea if a doctor told him "lets see how you feel in 10 days" or "when the swelling goes down"...we just dont know

same with the other two......unless you know the visa issue its speculation


the caps have few nhl ready players and they can't seem to get most of them on the ice. only cassels was an accident. all the rest they had some control over and its not going well for them.


well....I pretty much disagree....we dont know what sort of control they had over these issues, or at least I dont. I cant imagine that Semin/Sykora didnt have the proper work papers from Washington....maybe they did...but again, lots of other guys seemed to get here.....

Its an ATlanta thing......Hurme, Rhodes and now Majesky

just out of curiosity, does bondra have a no trade clause in atlanta? i don't remember seeing reports that he does.

i think that atlanta is a completely different situation because they intend to be contenders for the playoffs. they can honestly say they plan on being buyers at the deadline, not sellers.

the caps couldnt say that. we all know the caps have missed the playoffs already.
bondra was almost a guaranteed rental come march with a one year contract at less than $2m.

thats my view anyhow

why exactly was zubrus having surgery as to miss the first two weeks of a four week preseason? this is the first ive heard of an injury. they just now decided he needed to fix something?He actaully had the surgery 2 weeks ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/13/AR2005091301278.html


and forward Dainius Zubrus, who had arthroscopic knee surgery two weeks ago.

Once again... :shakehead

"we dont know what sort of control they had over these issues, or at least I dont. I cant imagine that Semin/Sykora didnt have the proper work papers from Washington....maybe they did...but again, lots of other guys seemed to get here....."

Honestly I have no idea myself. BUT for a team that needs all it can get from whereever it can get it, this start is pretty unimpressive.

I will also say that with Semin and Sykora's this is only par for the course. There always seems to be one reason or another why they can't. This is just the latest.
Since they are expected to be two of the top 4 wingers and have not proven reliable in terms of showing up, i would have thought the Caps would have been in hand holding mode til they were at Piney Orchard. Maybe its not McPhee's fault.
We already know that its never Sykora or Semin's fault.

Think about it this way. For those of use that actually had Bondra, Semin and Sykora penciled into 3 of the top 4 wing spots on opening night...who might we see in the Jolly Roger jersey on opening night if this is just the start of the excuses?

They could look more like a junior team than an AHL team. Thats a worst case scenario, but .....

I'm still shocked Zhamnov didn't sign here. Shocked, I say! :sarcasm:

This is a rebuilding team. It was always going to be crappy. They're cutting losses until Leonsis can buy the Wiz, and shooting for Kessel or Frolik. That's the bottom line this year.

For what it's worth, I think your top four wingers might be Ovechkin, Semin, Clark and Clymer. Klepis is kicking donkey in camp, though. Looks like an NHL player out of this lot now.

Honestly I have no idea myself. BUT for a team that needs all it can get from whereever it can get it, this start is pretty unimpressive.


but the question still remains.....what is the visa issue? Visa issues pop up all the time in this country. The fact this is a pro sports team doesnt really matter....immigration officials arent going to say "oh...you play hockey....why didnt you say so, come on in". Even with proper paper work there can be snags...this cant be debated in my mind, as I have seen it happen personally (not in sports however)


I will also say that with Semin and Sykora's this is only par for the course. There always seems to be one reason or another why they can't. This is just the latest.
Since they are expected to be two of the top 4 wingers and have not proven reliable in terms of showing up, i would have thought the Caps would have been in hand holding mode til they were at Piney Orchard. Maybe its not McPhee's fault.
We already know that its never Sykora or Semin's fault.


again...all the hand holding in the world wont change the issues. GMGM could have escorted them on the plane and this could/would have happened IMO.....these are border issues....and they suck....maybe its not the player or the team to blame. You seem to totally let any sort of government issues off the hook.....and, we know thats a well oiled machine.


Think about it this way. For those of use that actually had Bondra, Semin and Sykora penciled into 3 of the top 4 wing spots on opening night...who might we see in the Jolly Roger jersey on opening night if this is just the start of the excuses?

They could look more like a junior team than an AHL team. Thats a worst case scenario, but .....


for those that penciled in Bondra...all I can think of is something about a chicken and an egg....as for Semin/Sykora, I would expect....as the reports say...they will be here soon

honestly...I think you are going way over the edge on this.....its day one of camp and the sky is already falling....and its all their fault to boot

He actaully had the surgery 2 weeks ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/13/AR2005091301278.html




Once again... :shakehead

You could always give the USA Womens team a call!

Sign Cammi Granato!!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/winter/2005-08-25-granato-cut_x.htm

Like I said in that other thread, crying about the visa issues are a moot point. That stuff happens, it's nothing anyone can do about it.

Cassels only broke his cheekbone, right? So he can still play unless there is something else I haven't heard.

Majesky.....I'm sorry, I just can't see why anyone would care. He can easily be replaced. Yes, he's a big man but he will have a hard time slowing anybody down in the new NHL.

Don't be so down, Caps fans.

i agree completely on majesky and on cassels. majesky was just the proverbial straw. semin and sykora though are another story. sykora missed the last nhl season because he botched his paperwork. maybe that means he is an idiot or not fully interested in the nhl or just bad luck is impossible to know for sure, but there is a history with this particular player needing help in this area.

semin has already danced and dodged his way thru his relationship with management in the NHL, Russian National Team(wasn't he kicked off the team by the coach for a few days last year?), and his RSL team. a guy that can miss a team flight and can decide not to show up when he has a valid contract, needs to be supervised.

i am not surprised nor would i be upset over someone having a visa problem. my point is that if i showed you the caps roster and asked which two guys you would most expect to have some excuse, it would be those two guys. sure enough BOTH of them are not here. it just smells like someone in the Caps office was not watching them. Yes, it could have happened to any of them, but it didnt. It happened to those two. the most obvious two.

i agree completely on majesky and on cassels. majesky was just the proverbial straw. semin and sykora though are another story. sykora missed the last nhl season because he botched his paperwork. maybe that means he is an idiot or not fully interested in the nhl or just bad luck is impossible to know for sure, but there is a history with this particular player needing help in this area.

semin has already danced and dodged his way thru his relationship with management in the NHL, Russian National Team(wasn't he kicked off the team by the coach for a few days last year?), and his RSL team. a guy that can miss a team flight and can decide not to show up when he has a valid contract, needs to be supervised.

i am not surprised nor would i be upset over someone having a visa problem. my point is that if i showed you the caps roster and asked which two guys you would most expect to have some excuse, it would be those two guys. sure enough BOTH of them are not here. it just smells like someone in the Caps office was not watching them. Yes, it could have happened to any of them, but it didnt. It happened to those two. the most obvious two.

you are right...if you were to guess who would have had problems, they would have been on the list

I guess my point is....maybe the Caps were indeed watching them, doesnt mean they could do much/anything about it

what is the solution though? trade Semin? I dont like that idea at all

Before this gets totally blown out of proportion he will probably skate for the Caps some point this season. This is simply an economics move and Majesky will probably collect insurance money while he's out of the line and it won't cost the Caps a penny.

Think workers comp folks...it isn't like he's been dropped off the line up. This is simply a monetary issue. When he's healthy he'll be in the line up...this is about who's penny he's on while he's getting healthy.

I'm no visa expert but just from going on what has happened to some players it can take a week or so. And from a few reports the caps where notified a full week before training camp that there were having visa problems. But considering the history of both of these players it just sort of adds fuel to the fire. And with Semin you just want no more drama, lol. I even think I read an interview with him talking about how he was looking forward to playing with zubrus/ovechkin and this team is way different than what he experience with Cassidy and the divisive locker room.

Perhaps instead of using the word "failed" the medical staff should have used "not cleared to play" ------- Majesky sounds like he is only a few weeks away from suiting up.

Just an FYI....Majesky is here today and is rehabing. More later.

lol you are such a taunter strung, heheh.

the whole 'fail physical' just has the connotation of 'rejected and kicked to the curb'.