Who will wear the "C" in Anaheim this season?

Please, no Burke bashing in here, there is already a thread for that.

Anyway, with Rucchin out Anaheim needs to choose a new captain. In some ways I shudder to ask this question because I find fans usually have bad paradymes about what a leader looks like (i.e. Canadian or American and shouts a lot).

Anyway, it's a tough question to answer since we don't really get to see what goes on behind the scenes, but I'd say it comes down to last year's assistant captains, Sergei Fedorov or Keith Carney (correct me if I'm wrong), and Scott Niedermayer, who subbed in as Captain on New Jersey in Steven's absense.

I'd choose Fedorov. He's the #1 centre, top forward. The team is supposedly going to be more offensive this year, so he should be the player you build your team around. Carney is the 3rd best defensemen on the team.

Anyway, it's a hard question to answer. I'm not sure how NHL teams go about naming captains.

Keith Carney would make sense. Some combination of Fedorov, Selanne, and S.Niedermayer for the A's.

S. Nieds: Captain
Carney: A
Feds: A

Selanne: Alternate A if someones injured.

Feds. Period

C:Feds
A:S. Nieds
A:Carney

Selanne the Alternate A.

Scott Niedermayer has all the attributes required to be a Captain: leadership, integrity, character not to mention awesome skills and some prior experience in the role. While it's not customary to give the "C" to a newcomer, I think an exception is warranted in this instance.

Any one of Carney, Fedorov, Niedermayer, and Selanne could get it. I'd say the rest should get As.

Carney C
Feds A
Salei A

Carney C
Feds A
Salei A

Salei? The only thing stopping Scotty Niedermayer from being New Jersey's captain was the franchises best leader in Scott Stevens. The only thing stopping Selanne from being our captain in the past was the Franchise player, Paul Kariya. You think Salei, who wasn't even an Alternate A in the past, gets a letter over them?

I will be a little disappointed if Carney doesn't get it.

On the Canucks, we had four alternate captains (two for home games, two for away games). I don't know if Burke implemented that, or Crawford, but it could very well happen in Anaheim.

who deserves it Carney
who get's it Fedorov

when fedorov signined in anaheim he said he came to be a leader, but rooch was in the way of that. feds should get it. who knows what burke thinks hell probably name fedoruk.

C- Carney
A- Federov
A- S.Nieds

Salei? The only thing stopping Scotty Niedermayer from being New Jersey's captain was the franchises best leader in Scott Stevens. The only thing stopping Selanne from being our captain in the past was the Franchise player, Paul Kariya. You think Salei, who wasn't even an Alternate A in the past, gets a letter over them?

Well, I think that a veteran player on this team deserve to be an alternate captain over a newcomer, even if he's name is Scott Niedermayer. I didn't like the fact Feds got an A last year just to satisfy is ego.
I don't think you deserve a C and an A in a new team, even if you're a star.

If so give Feds C, Selanne and Scotty A.

Well, I think that a veteran player on this team deserve to be an alternate captain over a newcomer, even if he's name is Scott Niedermayer. I didn't like the fact Feds got an A last year just to satisfy is ego.
I don't think you deserve a C and an A in a new team, even if you're a star.

If so give Feds C, Selanne and Scotty A.
I agree with the ego point, but I've never liked how the top scorer would automatically get the C or an A. Leadership and skill don't necessarily go hand-in-hand: just because a guy can put the puck in the net doesn't mean his teammates listen when he speaks. I don't know enough about Federov to comment on his leadership, but I hear that Selanne is always well-regarded by his peers, and I think that Scott Niedermayer would have immediate respect. I think they're solid choices.

That said, while I wouldn't want to insult Carney or the rest of the returning team, I wonder if it might be an important statement to install new guys like Selanne and Niedermayer as Captain or assitant Captain simply to make a statement to the rest of the team that this is a new team, this is a new era.

Burke doesn't like Feds, so Carlyle ain't gonna give him the C. It's going to Carney or Niedermayer.

Carlyle has no loyalty to either Carney or S. Nieds. He's the new guy and can give the C to anyone he wants. I have a feeling its going to be Selanne with Carney and Nieds taking the A.

Carlyle and Selanne being teammates can affect the decision but I think Burke wants some continuity in the team, both Carney and Selanne are UFAs next summer...Who knows...

selanne's signed a one year deal. no way he gets the c

selanne's signed a one year deal. no way he gets the c

Burke has also indicated that there is a very good chance Selanne will remain a Duck for longer than a year, possibly to the point where he retires as a Duck. I also doubt Carlyle will put much consideration into that fact, but you never know.

The wise move would be:

C Carney
A Fedorov
A Neidermayer or Selanne.

Everything that Burke has done (right and wrong) seems to indicate that this is the New Look Ducks. I fully expect Scott Niedermeyer to be named the captain. 3 Cups, 1 Norris, 1 Olympic Gold, 1 World Cup, spending his entire career on a winner. Yes, not much different than Fedorov's credentials, but Nieds seems to be the new crown for the new look Ducks in the new NHL. Logically, it makes sense that he will be named captain.

I fully expect Scott Niedermeyer to be named the captain. 3 Cups, 1 Norris, 1 Olympic Gold, 1 World Cup, spending his entire career on a winner.

Agree. Burke doesn't have the loyalty to Carney that we fans do. Carney would be our captain, but Niedermayer will be Burke's.

Yes, not much different than Fedorov's credentials, but Nieds seems to be the new crown for the new look Ducks in the new NHL.

Difference is Fedorov would make a lousy captain.

On the Canucks, we had four alternate captains (two for home games, two for away games). I don't know if Burke implemented that, or Crawford, but it could very well happen in Anaheim.

I was thinking of that too. I'd like to see Carney as the C, Scotty and Selanne As for home games, and Salei and Feds for away.

I'm just not a fan of bringing in a totally new guy to be the captain.

Carney has been here for years, and is a great leader, so he should get the "C". Really I think Neidermayer (Scott) should be alternate before Selanne. Let Teemu concentrate on scoring goals again.

C- Carney
A- Federov
A- S.Nieds

agreed.

honorable mention goes to Popovich

I don't think it will be Fedorov. I think it's going to Niedermeyer with Carney and Feds with the A.

Carney would deserve it, but I doubt he'll be getting it. I wouldn't mind at all being wrong here, though.

I don't think Burke will be the one who chooses the captain, I think the choice is made by the players themselves.

I'm just not a fan of bringing in a totally new guy to be the captain.

Carney has been here for years, and is a great leader, so he should get the "C". Really I think Neidermayer (Scott) should be alternate before Selanne. Let Teemu concentrate on scoring goals again.

I think a lot of us feel the same way. However, as someone said earlier Burke is making this his team. As far as he's concerned everyone is new to him, because he hasn't been here in the past.

agreed.

honorable mention goes to Popovich

Popovic, there happy?

Maybe you'll shut up now about a name... :dunno:

Correcting a name isn't a bad thing by any means, but making a couple of posts about it, and just being sarcastic about it is lame, so just drop it dude.

I'm just not a fan of bringing in a totally new guy to be the captain.

Why not? Scott Niedermayer won three rings---it was three, wasn't it?---and wore the "C" for a time with the Devils. He's a winner, he knows how to win and he's a class act. Barring injury or some strange twist of fate, he's going to be here for at least the next four years. Why not welcome him to his new home and make him Captain?

I'm not totally averse to this but I still think Carney deserves it...he's battled for this team constantly and given as much as he had for the past 4-5 years (01 or 02 was it?). I say Carney gets the "C", Nieds and Feds the "A's". Not sure what the future holds for Carney in Anaheim and he probably only has a few years left in him but I think it would be a nice gesture if he got to wear it for a season before he hung em up.

Carney should become captain, he deserves it the most

C Federov
A S. Neidermayer
A Carney

That's what I would do.

Why not? Scott Niedermayer won three rings---it was three, wasn't it?---and wore the "C" for a time with the Devils. He's a winner, he knows how to win and he's a class act. Barring injury or some strange twist of fate, he's going to be here for at least the next four years. Why not welcome him to his new home and make him Captain?
Just think it's better from a team chemistry POV to give a player established within the franchise the "C" rather than a totally new player. One exception would be on a team that lacked any established leaders. But since Carney has proven to be an outstanding leader over many years with the Ducks, I'd give him the "C".

One other exception I can think of is if it were a legendary type leader coming in. From recent history I'm talking someone like Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier, Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque.

This is not to say that Neidermayer wouldn't make a good Captain, and I would definitely make him one of the alternates. But that's the way I'd do it.

Then again, Burke may want to totally change the team chemistry. In which case making Neidermayer the Captain may shake things up.

And yes Neidermayer has won three Cups: '95, 2000, and 2003.

Just think it's better from a team chemistry POV to give a player established within the franchise the "C" rather than a totally new player. One exception would be on a team that lacked any established leaders. But since Carney has proven to be an outstanding leader over many years with the Ducks, I'd give him the "C".

One other exception I can think of is if it were a legendary type leader coming in. From recent history I'm talking someone like Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier, Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque.

This is not to say that Neidermayer wouldn't make a good Captain, and I would definitely make him one of the alternates. But that's the way I'd do it.

Then again, Burke may want to totally change the team chemistry. In which case making Neidermayer the Captain may shake things up.

I agree with you man, that's the way I would do it too. However I think the point alot of people are trying to make is that Burke has pretty much made it clear that this is his new team. So just because Carney has been here and probably should be captain, it doesnt matter to Burke because every player is new in "his new" team. And if this is a brand new team and everyone is on the same playing field, I'd say Burke is going to think S.Nieds is the best choice.

Since when does the GM pick the team captain.

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One other exception I can think of is if it were a legendary type leader coming in. From recent history I'm talking someone like Mario Lemieux, Mark Messier, Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque.

This is not to say that Neidermayer wouldn't make a good Captain, and I would definitely make him one of the alternates. But that's the way I'd do it . . . Even Gretz didn't get the C his first year with the Kings.

Very true....was Dave Taylor captain that year?

Since when does the GM pick the team captain.

Since we became the Goon Patrol on ice.

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I don't think Burke will be the one who chooses the captain, I think the choice is made by the players themselves.
I'm sure the GM has nothing to do with who is chosen, but he might have some pull over how the issue is decided.

I've heard of teams that elect their Captain, but I think it's more common for the coaches to designate the Captain and alternates. (I could be wrong)

Even Gretz didn't get the C his first year with the Kings.

Conversely, however, Mark Messier was given the C the instant he became a Ranger. And a Canuck. And a Ranger again. Each time, with varying degrees of success.

Should be Carney.

Carlyle is a new coach in this team, he can either show respect the players by allowing them to pick the C or he can stomp his authority and pick it himself.

Actually the way the C is chosen is more interesting that the actual C itself.

Carlyle is a new coach in this team, he can either show respect the players by allowing them to pick the C or he can stomp his authority and pick it himself.

Actually the way the C is chosen is more interesting that the actual C itself.
That's kind of black-and-white thinking, isn't it? If the players don't choose, then Carlyle has failed to show respect? There's probably a middle way in which the coach and players both have a say. Regardless, I don't think the returning players will revolt if their consensus choice (assuming there is one) is not the Captain. These guys are professional athletes, not impetuous teenagers.

I doubt Carlyle is too concerned about making a show of bravado to demonstrate his authority. He's played and coached long enough to a) have the respect of the players, and b) understand the psychology of a dressing room.

But I agree entirely, figuring out the machinations of who wins the Captaincy is much more interesting than actually finding out.

That's kind of black-and-white thinking, isn't it? If the players don't choose, then Carlyle has failed to show respect? There's probably a middle way in which the coach and players both have a say. Regardless, I don't think the returning players will revolt if their consensus choice (assuming there is one) is not the Captain. These guys are professional athletes, not impetuous teenagers.

I doubt Carlyle is too concerned about making a show of bravado to demonstrate his authority. He's played and coached long enough to a) have the respect of the players, and b) understand the psychology of a dressing room.

But I agree entirely, figuring out the machinations of who wins the Captaincy is much more interesting than actually finding out.

Carlyle is anything but the sort to throw his weight around. If he has someone in mind that he thinks is especially captain material, then he'll make them the captain. Its hardly a demonstration of "stomping his authority" if he chooses it himself. Its nice sometimes to include players in those sorts of decisions, but the bottom line is that its his team to run.

Conversely, however, Mark Messier was given the C the instant he became a Ranger. And a Canuck. And a Ranger again. Each time, with varying degrees of success.

Ugh! Messier, Mr Ego!

Even Gretz didn't get the C his first year with the Kings.

conversely, he was handed the C straight off when he was acquired by St. Louis
and then he only served as Captain in a temporary state in NYR, while Leetch was injured.