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dkball7 08-23-2005, 08:52 PM http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=134361
Ducks trading two of their top 6 in one day leads me to believe there is a major deal which is going to be finalized, and due the fact that we have a glut of top 6 forwards, I believe there will be a blockbuster deal between Anaheim and New Jersey.
PEli* 08-23-2005, 08:54 PM What? Why? Who?
Classic Devil 08-23-2005, 08:56 PM I hope not. I hate Anaheim.
dkball7 08-23-2005, 08:57 PM I hope not. I hate Anaheim.
I've come to my senses.
Anaheim is sitting around 37 million. There's no way they will pick up more salary.
There goes my nice little daydream :shakehead
Unthinkable 08-23-2005, 08:58 PM LeClerc being dealt opens up a spot for a player like Jeff Friesen in Anaheim. Maybe Lou is looking at getting Sykora back in the fold.
Captain Ron 08-23-2005, 09:19 PM LeClerc being dealt opens up a spot for a player like Jeff Friesen in Anaheim. Maybe Lou is looking at getting Sykora back in the fold.
Yeah that makes sense. New Jersey is already over the cap. So trade away a guy making $2 million for a guy making $3 million. How would that work?
David Puddy 08-23-2005, 09:23 PM LeClerc being dealt opens up a spot for a player like Jeff Friesen in Anaheim. Maybe Lou is looking at getting Sykora back in the fold.Understand that I like you Unthinkable, as far as posters go, but are deranged? Sykora is going to make $3,116,000.00 this year. That's almost a million more than Friesen. Also, Lou Lamoriello thinks Sykora is soft. Friesen plays nearly every game. Sykora has boo-boo and has to be scratched.
Is Lou Lamoriello going to dump Brodeur, Elias or Madden's salary to make room for Sykora? I think not, just like I would have heartattack if Lou Lamoriello re-acquired Sykora.
In other Petr Sykora news, the Capitals have signed "other" Petr Sykora to a one-year contract. Here's the link (http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/08/233524.html).
Unthinkable 08-23-2005, 09:26 PM Yeah that makes sense. New Jersey is already over the cap. So trade away a guy making $2 million for a guy making $3 million. How would that work? People are getting really caught up over the Devils cap situation when the reality is Lou has until Oct. 1st to execute all the roster moves he wants to. The bigger picture needs to be kept in mind rather then focusing on what the numbers are as of today. We know moves are going to be made in the next 6 weeks.
holy roman empire 08-23-2005, 09:42 PM Puddy, while I don't think Sykora is coming back to NJ anytime soon either, the answer to your query about cap room is the Devils send 2 players to Anaheim for 1 (ie, Friesen and Kozlov for Sykora would actually clear cap room)
Unthinkable 08-23-2005, 09:44 PM Understand that I like you Unthinkable, as far as posters go, but are deranged? Sykora is going to make $3,116,000.00 this year. That's almost a million more than Friesen. Also, Lou Lamoriello thinks Sykora is soft. Friesen plays nearly every game. Sykora has boo-boo and has to be scratched. Lets stop and reflect rationally on whats going on for a moment. Larry Robinson obviously had some influential say in getting players like Malakhov and Mogilny back. We know Lou attempted to get Bobby Holik back with the Devils additionally. Is it really that much of a stretch to consider this trend that maybe the Devils would also entertain notions of having Sykora back at this point?
Is Lou Lamoriello going to dump Brodeur, Elias or Madden's salary to make room for Sykora? I think not, just like I would have heartattack if Lou Lamoriello re-acquired Sykora. None of those three core vets are players I've personally listed as guys I'd like to see dealt away right now. All that matters in the grand scheme of such a plan is that more salary is inevitably traded away then whats taken on before Oct. 1st.
Captain Ron 08-23-2005, 09:47 PM People are getting really caught up over the Devils cap situation when the reality is Lou has until Oct. 1st to execute all the roster moves he wants to. The bigger picture needs to be kept in mind rather then focusing on what the numbers are as of today. We know moves are going to be made in the next 6 weeks.
What your not taking into account is that there is only so much cap room in the entire league. Everyday it gets smaller. The options for Lou become less and less. If he waits until September 30th to get things done then there will be nobody left to trade with. Because they will already have their rosters filled out. Waiting to fix the Devils cap problem can only make these worse in the long run.
Brooklyndevil 08-23-2005, 09:53 PM St. Louis and Washington are looking like good trade partners. Blues need forwards and the Caps need everything else. And I believe they're under the cap floor.
Unthinkable 08-23-2005, 09:54 PM What your not taking into account is that there is only so much cap room in the entire league. Everyday it gets smaller. The options for Lou become less and less. If he waits until September 30th to get things done then there will be nobody left to trade with. Because they will already have their rosters filled out. Waiting to fix the Devils cap problem can only make these worse in the long run. Lou has already stated there is interest around the league in all of the players he 's recently resigned. Rest assured, Lou won't be caught having to cram for a final exam last minute on account of not having all his proverbial ducks in a row. Nothing in recent history would suggest he's suddenly a man without a credible plan at this point.
Captain Ron 08-23-2005, 10:03 PM Lou has already stated there is interest around the league in all of the players he 's recently resigned. Rest assured, Lou won't be caught having to cram for a final exam last minute on account of not having all his proverbial ducks in a row. Nothing in recent history would suggest he's suddenly a man without a credible plan at this point.
What makes you think Lou will fare any better than Clarke in Philly or Burke in Anaheim? The precedent has been set. Teams who are in cap trouble will not be able to dictate terms in any deals that they make. The Devils are going to have to trade away 2 or 3 players and probably get nothing in return. The sooner that Lou comes to terms with that reality the better.
vadvlfan 08-23-2005, 10:07 PM http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=134361
Ducks trading two of their top 6 in one day leads me to believe there is a major deal which is going to be finalized, and due the fact that we have a glut of top 6 forwards, I believe there will be a blockbuster deal between Anaheim and New Jersey.
How could a GM just come in a get rid of ruchin, a real soldier.Who the hell does he think he is? He bled Eggplant & aqua. I think he messed with the locker room. He was respected.
He'll do great in msg.
Unthinkable 08-23-2005, 10:19 PM What makes you think Lou will fare any better than Clarke in Philly or Burke in Anaheim? The precedent has been set. Teams who are in cap trouble will not be able to dictate terms in any deals that they make. The Devils are going to have to trade away 2 or 3 players and probably get nothing in return. The sooner that Lou comes to terms with that reality the better. Who is to say the Devils haven't had a deal (in principal) in place for a week or more now that is contingent on the other team first moving players before everything can be fully executed though? Seriously, I'm not the least bit worried about how things are going to play out. This isn't about Lou Lamoriello not coming to terms with reality. Its a case of fan perception contemplating that one of the shrewdest minds in pro sports has all of a sudden apparently been overcome with Alzheimers.
borrachon 08-23-2005, 10:19 PM What your not taking into account is that there is only so much cap room in the entire league. Everyday it gets smaller. The options for Lou become less and less. If he waits until September 30th to get things done then there will be nobody left to trade with. Because they will already have their rosters filled out. Waiting to fix the Devils cap problem can only make these worse in the long run.
Maybe you should phone Lou and tell him how to do his job personally.
David Puddy 08-24-2005, 12:10 AM Lets stop and reflect rationally on whats going on for a moment. Larry Robinson obviously had some influential say in getting players like Malakhov and Mogilny back. We know Lou attempted to get Bobby Holik back with the Devils additionally. Is it really that much of a stretch to consider this trend that maybe the Devils would also entertain notions of having Sykora back at this point?Yes, it seems like a stretch to me. I think Petr Sykora is only bested in Lou Lamoriello's doghouse by Mike Danton/Jefferson. I would lose respect for Lou as a vengeful, wrathful God if he took Sykora back. We don't want to see the 2001-02 season commemorated in 2005-06, and I don't think we will.
None of those three core vets are players I've personally listed as guys I'd like to see dealt away right now. All that matters in the grand scheme of such a plan is that more salary is inevitably traded away then whats taken on before Oct. 1st.I'm with you that the current payroll is not going to be a problem, but if it goes higher, it would be. The Devils would still have to drop some salary somewhere else. Of course I don't think you want to trade any of those players. I was using them as examples of what I though would be similarly unlikely moves by the Devils' CEO/President/GM.
Puddy, while I don't think Sykora is coming back to NJ anytime soon either, the answer to your query about cap room is the Devils send 2 players to Anaheim for 1 (ie, Friesen and Kozlov for Sykora would actually clear cap room)But it would only be $912,000 less payroll, with more money to cut. Also, the Ducks are a team close to the cap, so they would move $912,000 closer to the cap.
If Kozlov, let's say, is traded, I think it will be for a draft pick or a prospect.
VP and GM 08-24-2005, 12:39 AM What your not taking into account is that there is only so much cap room in the entire league. Everyday it gets smaller. The options for Lou become less and less. If he waits until September 30th to get things done then there will be nobody left to trade with. Because they will already have their rosters filled out. Waiting to fix the Devils cap problem can only make these worse in the long run.
The longer Lou waits the less leverage he will have which will effect what he gets in return. This board would now better than I - it appears he'll have to pull off a blockbuster deal of a big name (read as $$) player or a couple at the mid level to get some breathing room. The cap deals/dominos have just started to fall across the NHL - the time is now to deal before GMs get to close to training camps and full rosters. Unless Lou has other creative ideas he can pull out of his hat...
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