Leclerc traded?

mmbt
08-23-2005, 06:32 PM
To Phoenix, for a conditional 07 pick. Oh well, best of luck Mike.

Snap Wilson
08-23-2005, 06:33 PM
To Phoenix, for a conditional 07 pick. Oh well, best of luck Mike. link?

Edit: Never mind. It's up on the Ducks page.

If this is the extent of our salary-cutting, I'll be pleased, but somehow I doubt it.

trenton1
08-23-2005, 06:36 PM
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story.asp?ID=134335&hubName=nhl-coyotes

Reaper45
08-23-2005, 06:37 PM
One of the few Ducks that I actually liked.

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
08-23-2005, 06:44 PM
This'll do it. We're now about $500,000 or a bit more under the cap. Better him than Sykora.

Kimi
08-23-2005, 06:46 PM
This'll do it. We're now about $500,000 or a bit more under the cap. Better him than Sykora.
Is that with or without Salei? I think it is, but I wanna make sure.

Kevin Forbes
08-23-2005, 06:51 PM
http://www.duckszone.com/index_e.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1124757377&archive=&start_from=&ucat=10&

Updated payroll look

mmbt
08-23-2005, 06:52 PM
This'll do it. We're now about $500,000 or a bit more under the cap. Better him than Sykora.

True, though I still LIKED him better than Sykora. Dude was clutch for us.

Watch, now that he's gone he'll probably put together 5 straight healthy seasons and reach his full potential.

Snap Wilson
08-23-2005, 06:57 PM
This'll do it. We're now about $500,000 or a bit more under the cap. Better him than Sykora. This ain't gonna do it. Burke wants to get further under the cap than just $500k. We're not done yet.

Kevin, where do you get the $912k figure for Getzlaf?

Kevin Forbes
08-23-2005, 07:02 PM
Fox Sports
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/3756644

of course some of their other numbers are a little off (perhaps just due to rounding), so I am looking for alternate sources

cut me some slack, I'm trying to keep the article as "real time" and up to date as possible ;)

BowDown2Chistov
08-23-2005, 07:02 PM
I hated to see him go but yea in my mind better then sykora

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
08-23-2005, 07:03 PM
If Konopka's on the roster at the minimum, we're just under the cap. Line-up now looks like:

Niedermayer-Fedorov-Lupul
Sykora-Rucchin-Selanne
McDonald-Pahlsson-Hedstrom
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz
Moen

Niedermayer-Carney
Ozolinsh-Vishnevski
Popovic-Salei
Marshall

Giguere
Bryzgalov


You know, I wouldn't mind bringing Krog back if he played for the minimum. I just don't know if Konopka can play well on the NHL level.

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 07:03 PM
I always liked Leclerc, too bad he could never stay healthy. One year from being a UFA maybe he was gone anyway.

One more move is on the way as Burke wants the payroll at 37 million.

Our top 6 forwards are pretty soft now...

Niedermayer-Feds-Lupul
SyKora-Rucchin-Selanne

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 07:04 PM
You know, I wouldn't mind bringing Krog back if he played for the minimum. I just don't know if Konopka can play well on the NHL level.

:eek: Krog is done. His game is perfect for European play. We need a guy like Konopka on the fourth line. He is NHL ready, trust me.

GPickus
08-23-2005, 07:06 PM
Maybe there's another trade coming that lessens the blow of this, but I think this is dumb. It makes our forward corps even softer. Sure Leclerc is an IR mainstay, but he's one of the few guys we have who actually battles like a madman in front of the opposing net. That being said, he'll never be a real power forward in this league. Rucchin has been more effective in front of the net, hardly a ringing endorsement for Mike. I still dont think he's the type of player you just salary dump though.

GP

BowDown2Chistov
08-23-2005, 07:18 PM
If Konopka's on the roster at the minimum, we're just under the cap. Line-up now looks like:

Niedermayer-Fedorov-Lupul
Sykora-Rucchin-Selanne
McDonald-Pahlsson-Hedstrom
Fedoruk-Konopka-Kunitz
Moen

Niedermayer-Carney
Ozolinsh-Vishnevski
Popovic-Salei
Marshall

Giguere
Bryzgalov


You know, I wouldn't mind bringing Krog back if he played for the minimum. I just don't know if Konopka can play well on the NHL level.

I wouldnt mind seeing that either, I always thought krog was underated.

mmbt
08-23-2005, 07:26 PM
Maybe there's another trade coming that lessens the blow of this, but I think this is dumb. It makes our forward corps even softer. Sure Leclerc is an IR mainstay, but he's one of the few guys we have who actually battles like a madman in front of the opposing net. That being said, he'll never be a real power forward in this league. Rucchin has been more effective in front of the net, hardly a ringing endorsement for Mike. I still dont think he's the type of player you just salary dump though.


I'm afraid that in the new cap era, ANY player making a million or more can become the type of player you just salary dump, depending on the circumstances.

Jerky Leclerc
08-23-2005, 07:28 PM
Doh! I guess I should had taken the opportunity to change my user name when I had the chance. What to do? :dunno:

I'm going to miss Leclerc. He was one of the few guys who was productive for us when healthy. So is the conditional pick contingent on Leclerc resigning with Pheonix? I'm thinking Burke probably isn't confident Leclerc can last the season without injury and with our cap situation, we can't afford a player who is prone to injury.

Duckstudd269
08-23-2005, 07:30 PM
so much for the team getting toughter hu... Didnt burke say he wanted the team to get more physical?

Randall Graves*
08-23-2005, 07:31 PM
True, though I still LIKED him better than Sykora. Dude was clutch for us.

Watch, now that he's gone he'll probably put together 5 straight healthy seasons and reach his full potential.
Or he'll continue to be injury prone.

I like Leclerc but I can see why Burke would trade him with the injury history.

Hank
08-23-2005, 07:31 PM
So is the conditional pick contingent on Leclerc resigning with Pheonix?

Probably a safe bet given its a 2007 pick. This is a bummer, I always liked Leclerc.

Jerky Leclerc
08-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Hedstrom was brought in to bring some vinnegar to the team. If he can play in the NHL, he will replace Leclerc's minutes.

Chistov23
08-23-2005, 07:54 PM
so much for the team getting toughter hu... Didnt burke say he wanted the team to get more physical?
It's not October, our team isn't set. Burke said yesterday that he will be looking to add more toughness to the team, and I trust he will do that. Also, I'm not sure how physical LeClerc will be able to be with that knee of his.

Kimi
08-23-2005, 08:09 PM
A poster on AllDucks looked at it this way: We traded away Mike Leclerc for Teemu Selanne, a draft pick and a little bit of cap room.

I like that way of thinking or it

Fighter
08-23-2005, 08:24 PM
Never liked the always-injured glass-knees Leclerc.
Way better him than any other player.

Good job Burke! :handclap:

Randall Graves*
08-23-2005, 08:41 PM
so much for the team getting toughter hu... Didnt burke say he wanted the team to get more physical?
the teams toughness is adequate..but the team skating has to be near the top of the league.

Snap Wilson
08-23-2005, 08:45 PM
Basically, we're seeing a swap of Teemu for Leclerc at this point, at a savings of a meager $140k. Any other moves the Ducks make they could have done with Leclerc instead of Selanne, right?

As that's the case, I don't like the trade-off. You can forecast 15-20 goals for both of these guys (assuming Mike doesn't get injured) and Leclerc brings much more to the table. I would rather have Leclerc playing hard on the verge of unrestricted free agency than Teemu on a potential retirement contract.

Spankatola Jamnuts
08-23-2005, 09:30 PM
I wouldn't. Leclerc is just too frail to play the game the way he wants to play it. And even when he's healthy, he's awfully slow.

Reaper45
08-23-2005, 09:42 PM
Top 6 just got softer for you guys.

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 09:49 PM
Top 6 just got softer for you guys.

Yeah I'd like Getzlaf to play on the second line to help with that at this point.

Reaper45
08-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Yeah I'd like Getzlaf to play on the second line to help with that at this point.
I'm obviously a Kings fan, so I don't know much about the Ducks, but why deal Rucchin for another enforcer?

Captain Ron
08-23-2005, 10:07 PM
I'm obviously a Kings fan, so I don't know much about the Ducks, but why deal Rucchin for another enforcer?

I think Burke at least wanted to make it look like he got more for Rucchin than he did for Leclerc.

Fighter
08-23-2005, 10:08 PM
I'm obviously a Kings fan, so I don't know much about the Ducks, but why deal Rucchin for another enforcer?

Cap trouble pal, no other reason to give up our Captain.

Brian Burke is in love with Salei I think.

Chistov23
08-23-2005, 10:13 PM
Brian Burke is in love with Salei I think.
Apparently.

Jerky Leclerc
08-23-2005, 10:16 PM
Looks like Burkie is cutting the fat and bringing in the kids like Bobby Clarke and the Flyers. No wonder Burke and Clarke get along. Similar minds think alike.

Reaper45
08-23-2005, 10:19 PM
Cap trouble pal, no other reason to give up our Captain.

Brian Burke is in love with Salei I think.
Yeah but Gillies for your captain?

Rucchin could have easily garnered a better prospect than a career minor league enforcer, salary dump or not.

Spankatola Jamnuts
08-23-2005, 11:01 PM
Gilles for cap space.

caliamad
08-24-2005, 01:39 AM
do you guys remember the key goals he scored in our stanley cup run... a playmaking forward with size and decent hands...

he's a bargain at 1.14 million... a bargain...

Pepper
08-24-2005, 08:22 AM
Hedström can't replace either the minutes, physical play or offense that LeClerc brought.

Professor John Frink
08-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Hedström can't replace either the minutes, physical play or offense that LeClerc brought.

Nor can he provide the constant time on the IR. Leclerc has been a non factor overall. One goal here and one goal there is nothing. Now if you want to talk about losing Rucchin thats a different story, but we all knew someone was going to go, we just assumed it was Sykora or Salei, the shock factor is still in affect.

Pepper
08-24-2005, 12:01 PM
What I'm saying is that Hedström is pretty f'ing far from being a 2nd liner like LeClerc (when healthy) was.

mmbt
08-24-2005, 01:18 PM
The Yotes board is saying it's a 4th rounder, and if Leclerc signs it could be as high as a 2nd rounder. That wouldn't be so bad. I wonder if it's something similar for the Rucchin trade.

Jerky Leclerc
08-24-2005, 01:34 PM
The Yotes board is saying it's a 4th rounder, and if Leclerc signs it could be as high as a 2nd rounder. That wouldn't be so bad. I wonder if it's something similar for the Rucchin trade.

Here's the link:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=46680

Kimi
08-24-2005, 02:42 PM
Here's the link:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=46680
That link isn't working Jerky.