Selänne joins Ducks

Japa
08-22-2005, 03:27 PM
1 year, 1 Million $

http://www.nhl.com/news/2005/08/233442.html

bleuer
08-22-2005, 04:39 PM
i'm happy... :handclap:

Pwnasaurus
08-22-2005, 05:05 PM
Burke's comment about Selanne being good for the community is somewhat ironic considering most people here want nothing to do with him being on this team. I don't mind the signing...1 million/1 yr...nothing to lose really. At the least he gives us a bit more flexibility on the top 2.

burnlikestars
08-22-2005, 05:11 PM
should add some spice to the Nashville-Anaheim games

Duckstudd269
08-22-2005, 05:26 PM
so now how's our cap space looking? Does a trade have to happen now?

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
08-22-2005, 05:39 PM
With this signing, we could trade Mike Leclerc away and actually cut payroll.

Hockeyfan02
08-22-2005, 05:52 PM
I guess Teemu is coming here to play his last season. I don't expect him to light it up like he did in his prime, but it should be interesting to see him back in a Ducks uniform.

Ducks_è_Halos
08-22-2005, 05:52 PM
I thought he said Anaheim was no longer an option...Oh well, I like this signing. I have a feeling Selanne will do much better under Carlyle than under Granato.

Jerky Leclerc
08-22-2005, 05:52 PM
The Ducks needed a clutch performer/scorer and Selanne should fit the bill. I'm sure he's going to sell a few more season tickets so it'll be a good PR move. On the flip side, Selanne wants to go to a team where he is not only loved but also a team that will be competitive while giving him good minutes to get ready for the Olympics next year. Overall, everyone wins.

psycho_dad
08-22-2005, 06:08 PM
Congrats to ducks, Teemu is a steal for that price. Especially now that he should be perfectly healthy again. Cheapest 35+ goals you'll see in a while ;)

Great signing, PR and all...and Teemu gets first line duty with a good center.

Kick Save
08-22-2005, 06:20 PM
so now how's our cap space looking? Does a trade have to happen now?

I think this pretty much seals Petr Sykora's fate. Even though Selanne's price tag was a relative bargain, Burke needed to clear some cap space before this signing. While I don't think that Selanne will light the lamp as much as Sykora does this season---wherever Sykora plays---I think that Teemu will pick up enough of the slack that Burke can trade Sykora and clear the needed cap space.

Randall Graves*
08-22-2005, 07:32 PM
Burke's comment about Selanne being good for the community is somewhat ironic considering most people here want nothing to do with him being on this team. I don't mind the signing...1 million/1 yr...nothing to lose really. At the least he gives us a bit more flexibility on the top 2.
most of the fans here, don't represent close to the majority of the fans. and I like it, it's a low risk/high reward move.

Randall Graves*
08-22-2005, 07:36 PM
I think this pretty much seals Petr Sykora's fate. Even though Selanne's price tag was a relative bargain, Burke needed to clear some cap space before this signing. While I don't think that Selanne will light the lamp as much as Sykora does this season---wherever Sykora plays---I think that Teemu will pick up enough of the slack that Burke can trade Sykora and clear the needed cap space.
no it doesn't the ducks can still be under the cap and keep sykora with a 21/22 man roster.

Ville Isopää
08-22-2005, 07:41 PM
Love this signing. I was hoping we'd get him, but to get him at 1m, it's a steal.

Chistov23
08-22-2005, 07:53 PM
should add some spice to the Nashville-Anaheim games
not really....?

Anyways, it's a good signing. I would really rather trade Salei than Sykora. A third line with McDonald and Lupul might put up some points. Add in a Kunitz or Hedstrom or god himself ;) .
Burke's comment about Selanne being good for the community is somewhat ironic considering most people here want nothing to do with him being on this team.
That may be the case on this board but I don't think it is for the general public. Just look at allducks, that forum is loving it. I know I am excited to see Selanne back in a ducks jersey, I'd say the majority of duck fans have a soft spot for him.

Kimi
08-22-2005, 07:59 PM
Of course we're loving it over at AllDucks, Most of us there are at least half mad when it comes to the Ducks. I'd post more, but I've got to go and buy a new Ducks Jersey. I let you guess what it is...

I Love this singing sooooo much!!

Jerky Leclerc
08-22-2005, 08:34 PM
I'd post more, but I've got to go and buy a new Ducks Jersey. I let you guess what it is...

I Love this singing sooooo much!!

But we don't know what number Hedstrom is yet.

:sarcasm:

Jerky Leclerc
08-22-2005, 08:37 PM
That may be the case on this board but I don't think it is for the general public. Just look at allducks, that forum is loving it. I know I am excited to see Selanne back in a ducks jersey, I'd say the majority of duck fans have a soft spot for him.

I don't think people here hate Selanne. Its agreed 99% despise Kariya and Selanne is caught in the middle...kinda like guilt by association. However, let me be the first to say "All is forgiven" contingent on a relatively cheap contract and healthy knees.

Kevin Forbes
08-22-2005, 08:37 PM
my guess is 51....but who knows

Jerky Leclerc
08-22-2005, 08:44 PM
my guess is 51....but who knows


#51 is Getzlaf at rookie camp. Looking for pics, I think he was #17 with the national team. Anybody on the Ducks wear #17?

Saint Teemu
08-22-2005, 09:20 PM
I didn't think that Burke was too keen on Selanne, but he's a straight shooter and he certainly sounds like he holds Selanne in high esteem.

I'm really hoping Teemu rebounds with an insane year. I think all the prerequisites are in place: Teemu's got an offensive-minded team (and an understanding that he is there to provide offense), the end of the stifling clutch, grab & trap era, a commitment for a lot of quality ice time, good linemates, and a healthy body. In fact, from Burke's comments, I think he's thinking the same way. I'm really stoked to see how the year shakes out.

I've been team-less since the Jets left Winnipeg - actually, after the Jets traded Teemu. How could I cheer for a team whose name was taken from a Bad News Bears ripoff? But now, Disney has sold the team. Then the team hired Brian Burke. Then Burke hired Randy Carlyle. And now the Ducks have signed Teemu. All that's standing between me and the Ducks fan club is those gawdawful jerseys.

Fighter
08-22-2005, 09:24 PM
I'm somewhat surprised to see him back in Anaheim.
I still think he is pretty much done with NHL hockey, but as RK said, at just 1 million it is a low risk-high reward move and with the kind of Fedorov and Niedermayer he could still manage a decent season.
At least we have some flexibility in the top two lines and he's not a backstabbing chiken like Kariya.

... and yes, my first favourite player is back at home after four years!

Welcome back Teemu! :handclap:

Spankatola Jamnuts
08-22-2005, 09:37 PM
I'm sitting here smiling. Depending on who gets traded to make salary room, this could be a bad deal. But I can't help myself. I like Teemu, always have.

If we can keep Sykora, I'll be pretty pleased with our offense overall. Maybe Salei isn't coming back.

Kevin Forbes
08-22-2005, 09:48 PM
#51 is Getzlaf at rookie camp. Looking for pics, I think he was #17 with the national team. Anybody on the Ducks wear #17?

#51 was Hedstrom the last time he played for Anaheim. He was 17 in Cincinnati.

danaluvsthekings
08-22-2005, 10:00 PM
no it doesn't the ducks can still be under the cap and keep sykora with a 21/22 man roster.

How much are you talking about being under the cap? Most teams are looking at coming in at about $37 mil to keep space for injury call ups, trades, and so on. I don't see any way the Ducks are going to be able to get under the cap without trading Sykora, Salei, Carney, or Rucchin. I don't think the market is going to be that good for Rucchin at his $2.26 million salary. Perhaps maybe someone like Washington that still needs to get to the cap floor. If I was Burke I wouldn't want to move Salei or Carney. They have a very nice defense with Carney, Salei, Neidermayer, Vishnevski, and Ozolinsh. It would still be good without one of them but I would think he'd want to keep a strong group together. They're not trading Rob Neidermayer. I know someone else mentioned trading Leclerc and actually cutting salary, but you'd be saving a whopping $140,000 by replacing him with Selanne. That's not really making a difference. I don't think Burke wants a payroll of $38-$38.5 mil because that takes away almost all of his roster flexability.

I've posted it before and I'll say it again, having a 21 man roster is completely ridiculous. That leaves you with 1 extra skater. So you either have 1 extra defenseman or 1 extra forward, not both. I know Jason Marshall can play both positions but I doubt the Ducks want to get into a position where he has to play major minutes in either position. Having only one extra player takes away Carlyle's roster flexability. He can't bench players, change the lineup depending on who the opponent is, and so on because he wont have an extra forward or defenseman. Not to mention it's highly unlikely for a team to only have 1 minor injury at a time. Teams don't get salary cap relief for long term injuries until a player misses 10 games and 24 days.

Jerky Leclerc
08-22-2005, 10:46 PM
I'm sitting here smiling. Depending on who gets traded to make salary room, this could be a bad deal. But I can't help myself. I like Teemu, always have.

If we can keep Sykora, I'll be pretty pleased with our offense overall. Maybe Salei isn't coming back.

Somehow, I'm just hoping...just hoping Burke knows more than us. I'm crossing my fingers that the CBA counts only the 20 players who dresses each night against the salary cap rather than the 22-23 man roster. Its all wishful thinking. If push come to shove, I think the Ducks can trade Salei, no probs. We can't lose Sykora because he will be counted on for offense in Burke's system.

Zoo
08-22-2005, 11:11 PM
Do you guys think Ozolinsh will give Teemu's #8

Snap Wilson
08-22-2005, 11:36 PM
Tomas Sandstrom all over again. But at one year (and for that price) it's no risk. He'll earn back that salary in extra ticket and jersey sales.

korben
08-22-2005, 11:38 PM
Looking for pics, I think he was #17 with the national team. Anybody on the Ducks wear #17?

Selänne ? Can´t be, #17 is frozen number in Finnish national team.

misfit
08-22-2005, 11:54 PM
Didn't he wear 13 in Winnipeg?

Professor John Frink
08-22-2005, 11:56 PM
There is nothing bad that comes with this signing. I am pretty indifferent about it myself. But it pleases the fans, brings some offense and only costs us 1 million for a pretty much sure fire 25 goals.

I am still waiting for the "clearing cap space" trades to take place here. But one thing is for sure Burke clearly has a plan of action. Something we haven't had much of in Anaheim over the years.

I am waiting for westcoaster to show up and bash this deal.

Kevin Forbes
08-22-2005, 11:58 PM
Selänne ? Can´t be, #17 is frozen number in Finnish national team.

Talking about Hedstrom.....

lux_interior
08-23-2005, 12:08 AM
I must admit, I'm strangely pleased with this signing. That, despite the fact that I was against the idea. But now that it's come to fruition, I was happy when I read it.

Having said that, I think people are being overly optimistic when they talk of 25-35 goals this season. I'm thinking more like 10 and I'd be ecstatic with 15-20.

My hopes are that he teaches Lupul and (if they play any games in Anaheim) Perry and Getzlaf a thing or two about scoring goals in the NHL. Because let's be honest, it's not like he's going to be teaching them how to backcheck, or the finer points of defensive zone coverage.

But, much like Booger said, it brings a smile to me face. :)

Professor John Frink
08-23-2005, 12:17 AM
I must admit, I'm strangely pleased with this signing. That, despite the fact that I was against the idea. But now that it's come to fruition, I was happy when I read it.

Having said that, I think people are being overly optimistic when they talk of 25-35 goals this season. I'm thinking more like 10 and I'd be ecstatic with 15-20.

I think 25 goals is completly realistic with the icetime he is suppost to recieve. To me the comment of 10 goals seems irresponsible. The guy has never shown to me that when he is healthy he can't perform, when that day comes I would tend to agree with you.

Duckstudd269
08-23-2005, 12:18 AM
How much are you talking about being under the cap? Most teams are looking at coming in at about $37 mil to keep space for injury call ups, trades, and so on. I don't see any way the Ducks are going to be able to get under the cap without trading Sykora, Salei, Carney, or Rucchin. I don't think the market is going to be that good for Rucchin at his $2.26 million salary. Perhaps maybe someone like Washington that still needs to get to the cap floor. If I was Burke I wouldn't want to move Salei or Carney. They have a very nice defense with Carney, Salei, Neidermayer, Vishnevski, and Ozolinsh. It would still be good without one of them but I would think he'd want to keep a strong group together. They're not trading Rob Neidermayer. I know someone else mentioned trading Leclerc and actually cutting salary, but you'd be saving a whopping $140,000 by replacing him with Selanne. That's not really making a difference. I don't think Burke wants a payroll of $38-$38.5 mil because that takes away almost all of his roster flexability.

I've posted it before and I'll say it again, having a 21 man roster is completely ridiculous. That leaves you with 1 extra skater. So you either have 1 extra defenseman or 1 extra forward, not both. I know Jason Marshall can play both positions but I doubt the Ducks want to get into a position where he has to play major minutes in either position. Having only one extra player takes away Carlyle's roster flexability. He can't bench players, change the lineup depending on who the opponent is, and so on because he wont have an extra forward or defenseman. Not to mention it's highly unlikely for a team to only have 1 minor injury at a time. Teams don't get salary cap relief for long term injuries until a player misses 10 games and 24 days.

agreed. I'd bet money that Sykora is gone. Leclerc won't be traded, because the cap won't be helped that much. Not to mention Leclerc is one of the physical guys, and Burke said he wants to make the team more physical. Unfortunately Sykora is gone guys.. :shakehead

lux_interior
08-23-2005, 12:20 AM
I think 25 goals is completly realistic with the icetime he is suppost to recieve. To me the comment of 10 goals seems irresponsible. The guy has never shown to me that when he is healthy he can't perform, when that day comes I would tend to agree with you.
I don't see how that's irresponsible.

Anyways...I think he had, what a 19 game stretch last season without a point? I would just urge caution on these predictions.

Randall Graves*
08-23-2005, 12:31 AM
How much are you talking about being under the cap? Most teams are looking at coming in at about $37 mil to keep space for injury call ups, trades, and so on. I don't see any way the Ducks are going to be able to get under the cap without trading Sykora, Salei, Carney, or Rucchin. I don't think the market is going to be that good for Rucchin at his $2.26 million salary. Perhaps maybe someone like Washington that still needs to get to the cap floor. If I was Burke I wouldn't want to move Salei or Carney. They have a very nice defense with Carney, Salei, Neidermayer, Vishnevski, and Ozolinsh. It would still be good without one of them but I would think he'd want to keep a strong group together. They're not trading Rob Neidermayer. I know someone else mentioned trading Leclerc and actually cutting salary, but you'd be saving a whopping $140,000 by replacing him with Selanne. That's not really making a difference. I don't think Burke wants a payroll of $38-$38.5 mil because that takes away almost all of his roster flexability.

I've posted it before and I'll say it again, having a 21 man roster is completely ridiculous. That leaves you with 1 extra skater. So you either have 1 extra defenseman or 1 extra forward, not both. I know Jason Marshall can play both positions but I doubt the Ducks want to get into a position where he has to play major minutes in either position. Having only one extra player takes away Carlyle's roster flexability. He can't bench players, change the lineup depending on who the opponent is, and so on because he wont have an extra forward or defenseman. Not to mention it's highly unlikely for a team to only have 1 minor injury at a time. Teams don't get salary cap relief for long term injuries until a player misses 10 games and 24 days.
How about we wait until a move actually happens before we assume anything?

not even a kings fan can bash this, he's getting 100,000 more than chistov..i'll take that any day of the week, especially with his knee fixed.

Randall Graves*
08-23-2005, 12:36 AM
I must admit, I'm strangely pleased with this signing. That, despite the fact that I was against the idea. But now that it's come to fruition, I was happy when I read it.

Having said that, I think people are being overly optimistic when they talk of 25-35 goals this season. I'm thinking more like 10 and I'd be ecstatic with 15-20.

My hopes are that he teaches Lupul and (if they play any games in Anaheim) Perry and Getzlaf a thing or two about scoring goals in the NHL. Because let's be honest, it's not like he's going to be teaching them how to backcheck, or the finer points of defensive zone coverage.

But, much like Booger said, it brings a smile to me face. :)
i'm willing to bet money that if he's healthy he'll score more than 10 goals, he's going to get top 6 ice time. He won't be playing on a line with dan fricken hinote and he's going to get more than enough PP time.

danaluvsthekings
08-23-2005, 12:45 AM
Somehow, I'm just hoping...just hoping Burke knows more than us. I'm crossing my fingers that the CBA counts only the 20 players who dresses each night against the salary cap rather than the 22-23 man roster. Its all wishful thinking. If push come to shove, I think the Ducks can trade Salei, no probs. We can't lose Sykora because he will be counted on for offense in Burke's system.

That is wishful thinking. If there was something like that in the CBA, it would have been reported in the CBA FAQ or somewhere else. The $39 mil cap is for everyone in the roster, whether its 22 or 23 men. Doing it on a game by game basis for the players who dress for each game would make it ridiculously hard on the teams and especially the coaches. "No wait, I can't dress so and so tonight because we'd be over the cap" etc.

Looking at the numbers, it appears the Ducks are going to have to trade one of Sykora, Ozolinsh, Carney, Rucchin, or Salei. Trading Leclerc alone doesn't buy them enough room. The rest of the roster is lower than what Leclerc makes or over $2 mil. Assuming the numbers posted in the thread on the trade rumors board are correct, the Ducks will be somewhere in the $39.7 mil range. If Salei signs for $1.8-2 mil, trading him gets the Ducks down to around $37.7. Since they're working on a long term extension, I don't think he's the one Burke wants to trade. They just signed Ozolinsh to a new contract, so again i think that rules him out. I know Sykora's contract expires after this season. When do Carney and Rucchin's contracts expire? I think one of these three is the most likely to be traded because if they expire after this season, Burke may already be thinking that they're not going to be around long term, so just move them now.

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 12:48 AM
I like this signing.

Welcome back Teemu. He was always welcome back in my opinion, unlike his partner in crime.

I'd trade Sykora to give us some breathing room under the cap. I'd prefer to keep Salei.

Nieds-Feds-Lupul
Leclerc-Rucchin-Selanne

danaluvsthekings
08-23-2005, 12:58 AM
How about we wait until a move actually happens before we assume anything?

not even a kings fan can bash this, he's getting 100,000 more than chistov..i'll take that any day of the week, especially with his knee fixed.

I wasn't saying the Selanne signing was a bad signing. I was just curious how much you think Burke's going to want to be under a cap. I'm not trying to turn this into a the Kings have been great this offseason, the Ducks are in cap hell ha ha type of thread. Objectively looking at the numbers of what the Ducks projected payroll is going to be and then what certain players make, it seems to me that Burke's trade options are now limited to moving one of his core players. I was honestly asking how you think Burke is going to get under the cap and how close you think when he's done he wants to be to the cap max. Because I don't see any GM out there planning on being at $38.5 or 39 mil and completely limiting his options for tweaking his roster during the season.

As for the other part of my post, don't you agree that carrying a 21 or 22 man roster has risks, especially if the Ducks plan on being close to the cap max?

Fan.At
08-23-2005, 01:00 AM
Nice job by Burke.

I also think that Sykora might be traded now. Maybe we can get back a guy like Taylor Pyatt and a draft pick, that would be a solid return...

Jerky Leclerc
08-23-2005, 01:08 AM
Unfortunately, for the Ducks to make the playoffs, we need not only Selanne's 20+ goals but also Sykora's 20+ goals. We can't afford to lose Sykora without getting a sniper who can replace his goals.

Duckstudd269
08-23-2005, 01:14 AM
I wasn't saying the Selanne signing was a bad signing. I was just curious how much you think Burke's going to want to be under a cap. I'm not trying to turn this into a the Kings have been great this offseason, the Ducks are in cap hell ha ha type of thread. Objectively looking at the numbers of what the Ducks projected payroll is going to be and then what certain players make, it seems to me that Burke's trade options are now limited to moving one of his core players. I was honestly asking how you think Burke is going to get under the cap and how close you think when he's done he wants to be to the cap max. Because I don't see any GM out there planning on being at $38.5 or 39 mil and completely limiting his options for tweaking his roster during the season.

As for the other part of my post, don't you agree that carrying a 21 or 22 man roster has risks, especially if the Ducks plan on being close to the cap max?

I agree with you, Sykora will be traded because only carrying 21 guys is to big of a risk. He will be traded for a cheap LW.

Randall Graves*
08-23-2005, 01:40 AM
I wasn't saying the Selanne signing was a bad signing. I was just curious how much you think Burke's going to want to be under a cap. I'm not trying to turn this into a the Kings have been great this offseason, the Ducks are in cap hell ha ha type of thread. Objectively looking at the numbers of what the Ducks projected payroll is going to be and then what certain players make, it seems to me that Burke's trade options are now limited to moving one of his core players. I was honestly asking how you think Burke is going to get under the cap and how close you think when he's done he wants to be to the cap max. Because I don't see any GM out there planning on being at $38.5 or 39 mil and completely limiting his options for tweaking his roster during the season.

As for the other part of my post, don't you agree that carrying a 21 or 22 man roster has risks, especially if the Ducks plan on being close to the cap max?
21 yes, 22 no. this is essentially what was going to be paid to chistov and he's a scrub. maybe burke will just cut ties with pahlsson and go with mcdonald as the 3rd line center.

I don't think this means for sure sykora is leaving, burke knows this team needs offense so why would he sign selanne and then trade sykora?(unless he gets a 20 goal lw?)

I'll just wait and see, and duckstudd, if sykora isn't traded will you sport an 'I am an idiot' avatar for a month? i'm being serious! lets have some fun with this.

Heavy Hussar
08-23-2005, 01:59 AM
i also like the signing for the price. also its great that its a 1 year deal. burke gets a chance to see if his knee is healed, while not having to ice getzlaf who needs to go to the portland. hopefully getz and perry can develop a good friendship in portland and also work on chemistry. its much smarter to do that than have them at different levels.

unfortunately, there has to be a trade. if burke replaces sykora, hes going to have to get an older or unproven return, and possibly nothing but a draft pick. looking at the roster, it looks like burke is doing everything he can to put a great mobile defense in front of giguere.

the more i look at this signing, it looks like sykoras replacement. selanne will get 25g. while my family and i all love him, sykora's salary will be his ticket out. I wouldn't be surprised if all burke got back was a draft pick in today's nhl though. with this financial freedom, he could go out and sign a czerkawski, young or johansson on the cheap for low to mid level scoring, or replace pahlsson with a 4th liner like a perrault or even krog.

SergeiK
08-23-2005, 02:22 AM
The main problem with Selanne`s production decreasing in last years have been the fact that he isn`t skater he used to be. Teemu has always been like rocket on skates - Finnish Flash - and with that speed created lots and lots of scoring changes.

Now the speed advantage is gone. He propably will make most of his points on powerplay, cause he still has decent set of hands. But I wouldn`t count too many points on five-on-five.

danaluvsthekings
08-23-2005, 02:47 AM
21 yes, 22 no. this is essentially what was going to be paid to chistov and he's a scrub. maybe burke will just cut ties with pahlsson and go with mcdonald as the 3rd line center.

I don't think this means for sure sykora is leaving, burke knows this team needs offense so why would he sign selanne and then trade sykora?(unless he gets a 20 goal lw?)

I'll just wait and see, and duckstudd, if sykora isn't traded will you sport an 'I am an idiot' avatar for a month? i'm being serious! lets have some fun with this.

I'd say there's still a risk with 22 depending on what the Ducks salary ends up being. It's a much smaller risk but there's still some risk. 22 players gives the Ducks 1 extra forward and 1 extra defenseman although Marshall can play both positions. With teams not being able to get salary cap relief until a player misses 10 games and 24 days, it's assuming the Ducks aren't going to have more than 2 injuries at a time. If you've got one guy out for a couple of weeks with a groin pull and another with a sprained ankle then it's not that big of a deal. But if another player comes down with a sore back or something like that, the Ducks will need to call someone up from Portland. That's why there needs to be room and you can't max out the cap. Teams with a full 23 man roster will be better able to deal with the short term injuries. Plus there are also situations that will arise such as a player's wife going into labor, someone getting the flu on the day of the game, injuries in the pregame skate. That's why carrying a 21 man roster is unrealistic.

The reason I think it means Sykora is going to be traded is it frees the most room. If the $39.7 mil number from another thread is accurate and Salei is moved, it would still have the Ducks at around $37.7. Under the cap but still not a whole lot of flexability and no room to add anyone else. Moving Sykora would drop the Ducks down to $36.5 or so so they could sign someone else for $1 mil or so or trade for someone making around that much. I don't think the return for Sykora will be quite as bad what Philly got for Roenick, but moving Sykora allows for the Ducks to at least get a warm body in return. Moving Carney or Salei doesn't free up enough room to get anything more than picks.

JayzinSmith
08-23-2005, 03:08 AM
Anyways...I think he had, what a 19 game stretch last season without a point? I would just urge caution on these predictions.
Yes, 19 games without a point from mid February till the end of March, during which he was -8 (before the slump: 29 points in 55 games, +9). In 10 of those 19 games he played less than 15 minutes.

Duck Fan
08-23-2005, 03:22 AM
I don't think this means for sure sykora is leaving, burke knows this team needs offense so why would he sign selanne and then trade sykora?(unless he gets a 20 goal lw?)




I think that Burke believes that signing Selanne will get him the same production that he would have gotten from Sykora. He also saves 2.1 mil on the cap. Further, they are both right wingers, so he does not lose anything with the signing. In addition, Selanne shoots right and Sykora shoots left. The team is overloaded with lefties and it is extremely awkward on the power play to have all left handed shooters. The only right handed shooters are Jason Marshall and Lupul. Selanne gives Burke more options than Sykora.

Rucchin is the heart and soul of the team, He is the captain and one of the best two way centers. The team is short on centers and his salary is less than that of Sykora and that is why I believe Sykora will be traded. In addition, it gives Burke the opportunity to bring up Perry or Getzlaf if there is an injury. He has more options replacing wingers than D-men.

A couple of weeks ago I predicted the Selanne signing and the Sykora trade. So far I am batting 50%. Let's see if I am 100% right. Time will tell very shortly.

Duck Fan
08-23-2005, 03:27 AM
I'd say there's still a risk with 22 depending on what the Ducks salary ends up being. It's a much smaller risk but there's still some risk. 22 players gives the Ducks 1 extra forward and 1 extra defenseman although Marshall can play both positions. With teams not being able to get salary cap relief until a player misses 10 games and 24 days, it's assuming the Ducks aren't going to have more than 2 injuries at a time. If you've got one guy out for a couple of weeks with a groin pull and another with a sprained ankle then it's not that big of a deal. But if another player comes down with a sore back or something like that, the Ducks will need to call someone up from Portland. That's why there needs to be room and you can't max out the cap. Teams with a full 23 man roster will be better able to deal with the short term injuries. Plus there are also situations that will arise such as a player's wife going into labor, someone getting the flu on the day of the game, injuries in the pregame skate. That's why carrying a 21 man roster is unrealistic.

The reason I think it means Sykora is going to be traded is it frees the most room. If the $39.7 mil number from another thread is accurate and Salei is moved, it would still have the Ducks at around $37.7. Under the cap but still not a whole lot of flexability and no room to add anyone else. Moving Sykora would drop the Ducks down to $36.5 or so so they could sign someone else for $1 mil or so or trade for someone making around that much. I don't think the return for Sykora will be quite as bad what Philly got for Roenick, but moving Sykora allows for the Ducks to at least get a warm body in return. Moving Carney or Salei doesn't free up enough room to get anything more than picks.


I totally agree. Good analysis.

Buda
08-23-2005, 04:08 AM
Whoohoo! My favourite player and the reason i started folowing the Ducks back in 1998 after the Nagano Olympics is back! Brings back a lot of nice feelings. :) At this salary, I think this could be a steal...

fez
08-23-2005, 04:18 AM
I don't think people here hate Selanne. Its agreed 99% despise Kariya and Selanne is caught in the middle...kinda like guilt by association. However, let me be the first to say "All is forgiven" contingent on a relatively cheap contract and healthy knees.

Thats exactly it, I hate Kariya more than Sellane. Sellane didnt lie through his teeth and turn his back.

I hope we dont lose Sykora though, thats kind of like saying "Sorry Petr although you have shown us utter loyalty compared to the guy we just signed, we're going to have to deal you"

psycho_dad
08-23-2005, 04:32 AM
I don't see how that's irresponsible.

Anyways...I think he had, what a 19 game stretch last season without a point? I would just urge caution on these predictions.

Averaging like 12 minutes a game with Peter Worrel on your line, tends to slow down the point production, especially for a guy who in his own words played last two seasons "practically on one leg".

I watched a whole lot of avalanche games that season, Selänne played decent but he did not really have a chance. They were so stocked in PP players he did not get to play much of that, and he is an offensive minded player who needs time on ice and offensive opportunities like PP. I am expecting nothing short of 30 goals if he gets 20+ minutes a game and a spot in the first PP line. Some coaches know how to use him, and he has always succeeded under those conditions. Colorado could have gotten more out of him even with his knee problem.

mattihp
08-23-2005, 04:44 AM
I thought he said Anaheim was no longer an option...Oh well, I like this signing. I have a feeling Selanne will do much better under Carlyle than under Granato.
Who wouldn't? :dunno:

I think most players in the league would do better under a turnip than they would under Granato...

Padawan
08-23-2005, 05:05 AM
Selänne back to Anaheim. I can't say this was a surprise. He and his family still have their second home there and they really like to place so this seems to be one of the last years in the NHL. With no trade clause he had to drop down his salary requests but I think Selänne plays more than willingly in the Ducks.

I hope he plays an awesome season there.

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 07:05 AM
OC Register (http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/08/23/sections/sports/sports/article_645376.php)

The Mighty Ducks brought long-time fan favorite Teemu Selanne home Monday. The club's next move likely will send someone else packing.

Selanne, who became arguably the most popular player in team history during a five-year run that ended with his 2001 trade to the San Jose Sharks, agreed to a one-year contract worth $1 million.

..."It's essential to have some room under the cap," Burke said. "We have some moves in mind that should address that, hopefully within the next week."

..."Certainly it's at a point that we're going to move someone, or more than one player, off the team in order to create some room," Burke said.

..."I signed Teemu because I think he makes us a better hockey team," Burke said. "We're anticipating that he will play in our top six (forwards). I would not have brought him back except on that basis."

...Burke's reports are that Selanne "looked excellent" at Finland's recent Olympic training camp in Helsinki.

"I'm feeling really, really good," Selanne said. "It's time to play hockey again."

McDonald19
08-23-2005, 07:09 AM
OC Register (http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/08/23/sections/sports/sports/article_645382.php)

No.13 was on Selanne's back in 1992-93, when he landed in Winnipeg like a landslide. His 76 goals were the most by any NHL rookie, anywhere. But his beloved No.8 belonged to a crusty defenseman, then in his final year. Selanne settled for the unluckiest number, although he tried to bribe the veteran, who refused.

The old guy was Randy Carlyle. This season he will coach Selanne. So not all circles were broken by the lockout.

"I've known Randy a long time," Selanne said from Finland on Monday, when the Ducks announced his one-year reunion contract.

"I like his style of play. We have a lot of good skaters on this team, and the new owners are going to put together a winning team. It's home for me."

Fighter
08-23-2005, 07:48 AM
Whoohoo! My favourite player and the reason i started folowing the Ducks back in 1998 after the Nagano Olympics is back! Brings back a lot of nice feelings. :)

You're not alone in this matter ;)

Kimi
08-23-2005, 08:08 AM
So do we think that Ozo will give up the #8 jersey? He saud when he joined Anaheim that he would give it to Teemu if he wanted it. Also, will Selanne be captain?

Snap Wilson
08-23-2005, 10:19 AM
So do we think that Ozo will give up the #8 jersey? He saud when he joined Anaheim that he would give it to Teemu if he wanted it. Also, will Selanne be captain?
I think Rooch will retain the captaincy if he's still here when the season starts.

Pepper
08-23-2005, 11:32 AM
Selänne is the type of guy who doesn't need C to prop up his ego like Kariya did, he's well-respected in the lockerroom regardless of what letters (if any) he has on his jersey.

Saint Teemu
08-23-2005, 02:21 PM
As I consider hopping aboard the Ducks' bandwagon, let me share my thoughts on the signing of my favourite player:

1) I think those who say he's lost a step underestimate two things:
a) that he's had a nagging injury surgically repaired and a year off to mend.
b) that the clutch-and-grab tactics of the last few years won't be tolerated, allowing skill players to play their game. Anybody's going to look slow when you're skating up ice with someone humping your leg the whole way.

2) Brian Burke is a pretty sharp guy. He wouldn't have made the deal in the first place unless he knew how he could refigure the team to fit under the cap. As he's said before, his teams have played under a cap for years - only it was called a budget. He's not going to leave the team with a gaping hole.

3) You can pretty much discount the year in Colorado. No quality ice time, wonky knee, no rapport with the coach... it was a perfect storm. Note Burke's comment about how Selanne's performance suffered due to things not related to his ability.

4) I think it would be cool if Teemu went back to #13 to signify a new beginning.

5) I think Teemu will go on a tear this year.

Ducks_è_Halos
08-23-2005, 06:06 PM
Who wouldn't? :dunno:

I think most players in the league would do better under a turnip than they would under Granato...
Yeah, I meant it to be obvious. Here, Selanne won't be benched for no reason and he won't be treated like scrub like he was last season.