New Stevens Article

http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1124517137143110.xml&coll=1

http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112442867675490.xml&coll=1

Second one is 4 pages long

I gotta say I'm getting a little pissed at Stevens. He's had a whole yar and a half to think this over. I'd hate to get screwed on a salary cap cause he can't make up his mind. Making the Devils wait this long isn't really fair. he's the captain, either step up or step out. I love the guy, but you'd think he'd be a little more responsbile with his decision making process. Moves will need to be made and the laer he signs the more desperate we become to make those moves before the season starts.

I gotta say I'm getting a little pissed at Stevens. He's had a whole yar and a half to think this over. I'd hate to get screwed on a salary cap cause he can't make up his mind. Making the Devils wait this long isn't really fair. he's the captain, either step up or step out. I love the guy, but you'd think he'd be a little more responsbile with his decision making process. Moves will need to be made and the laer he signs the more desperate we become to make those moves before the season starts.
I find that you are in teh same boat as the NYR's were and maybe still are with Messier. It is no way for the captain of a time to act. They above anyone else should be putting the team 1st. If he decides to comeback and want a reasonable salary, it is really going to cause problems for you guys. The effects could be long term.

I say tell Stevens we don't want him nor need him!!!!!!!

I say tell Stevens we don't want him nor need him!!!!!!!

If you don't want Scotty Stevens, you're insane. I want to start the "new generation" as much as the next person but he's Scott Stevens.

He's an old undecided Scott Stevens. Time to go.

Scott Stevens is the greatest thing that ever happened to New Jersey (as far as players go) If he wants to take a little time, it is ok with me.

Scott Stevens is the greatest thing that ever happened to New Jersey (as far as players go) If he wants to take a little time, it is ok with me.
I think we should wait as long as possible....he is a legend.

I think we should wait as long as possible....he is a legend.


I agee. Maybe the delay is simply logistics? Maybe the Delay is working out a deal to move a player and finalize Elias contract?

I can hope, can't I :)

Scott Stevens is the greatest thing that ever happened to New Jersey (as far as players go) If he wants to take a little time, it is ok with me.I would argue Martin Brodeur is.

I do like getting Stevens from the Blues instead of Curtis Joseph and Rob Brind'Amour, which is what St. Louis wanted to give New Jersey for the free-agent signing of Brendan Shannahan.

Best thing to ever happen to the NJ Devils.

Lou Lamoriello

Second
Jaques Lemaire

Third
Scott Stevens

And unlike SHEDERMAYER

Stevens cares about the State of New Jersey, and is very loyal to Lou. If he retires, let him go and celebrate his career. But i ll give Scotty until doomsday to make up his mind.

Take your time Scotty :)

The one quote in the first article by Stevens is pretty testy. You can tell he's sick and tired of being asked the inevitable lingering question on everyones minds.

I would argue Martin Brodeur is.

I do like getting Stevens from the Blues instead of Curtis Joseph and Rob Brind'Amour, which is what St. Louis wanted to give New Jersey for the free-agent signing of Brendan Shannahan.


If you look at the immediate turn around in New Jersey from when Stevens arrived its incredible.

1990-91 32 wins = No Stevens
1991-92 38 wins
1992-93 40 wins
1993-94 47 wins

This had little to do with Brodeur, Niederamyer or anyone else except Stevens

You know what's ridiculous, is that you guys think Lamoriello doesn't know, Im almost positive Lou knows exactly what is going to happen with Scotty......and Scotty knows too, to the guys saying get rid of him........bahahaha.

Scotty doesn't know, Scotty doesn't know...

I think Stevens will sign when NJ figures out their roster/cap situation. He would play for the league minimum. :bow:

I'm pretty sure Stevens will a part of the organization somehow, someway this season.

And unlike SHEDERMAYER

Stevens cares about the State of New Jersey, and is very loyal to Lou. If he retires, let him go and celebrate his career. But i ll give Scotty until doomsday to make up his mind.

Take your time Scotty :)


I agree, he's earned that much.

Put me in the group that feels that both Lou and Scott know what his decision is but are just keeping it quiet for cap reasons (if he is playing) or because they never tell us anything anyway (if he isn't).

If you look at the immediate turn around in New Jersey from when Stevens arrived its incredible.

1990-91 32 wins = No Stevens
1991-92 38 wins
1992-93 40 wins
1993-94 47 wins

This had little to do with Brodeur, Niederamyer or anyone else except Stevens1990-91 Lost in round 1
1991-92 Lost in round 1 (Stevens joins team)
1992-93 Lost in round 1
1993-94 Lost in round 3 (Brodeur joins team)
1994-95 Won Stanley Cup

1990-91 Lost in round 1
1991-92 Lost in round 1 (Stevens joins team)
1992-93 Lost in round 1
1993-94 Lost in round 3 (Brodeur joins team)
1994-95 Won Stanley Cup

A championship team begins with phenomenal goaltending some exceptions highlited in bold:

Khabibulin
Brodeur
Hasek
Roy
Brodeur
Belfour
Osgood
Vernon
Roy
Brodeur
Richter
Roy
Barrasso
Barrasso

With Oz, Vernon, and Barrasso they were good, but the teams coulda won with any goalie I think. The others, were HIGHLY instrumental to their team winning, no matter how good their D was.

i said it eariler, the devs dont really have to worry about stevens salary this season bc he could just play for the league minimum this year and make 3 million as a scout next year when he retires if you catch my drift

I disagree with those saying Stevens is'nt the best thing to ever happen to New Jersey. With no ill respect for Martin Brodeur-He's played behind one of the best TEAM defense oriented teams the league has ever seen. Alot of the shots he gets are from the perimeter, there are'nt many oddman rushes, and he don't have to make very many rebound saves either because their defense makes sure 90% of the time that the puck is cleared or put out of harms way after the initial shot.

Stevens however is one of the greatest leaders to ever lace up a pair. He makes those around him play with more passion then they normally would and for this alone, I'd say he's been more valuable to the devils then Brodeur has. Even as great as what Marty is.

I say tell Stevens we don't want him nor need him!!!!!!!

:biglaugh:

Thanks for the laugh on a Sunday morning.

Yep, some 15 years of service captaining a team to great heights...and no respect. Thankfully for NJD fans, the Devil's GM has a bit more, shall we say, decorum.

As for his being "old". Sure. And he was old when you won the Cup in '03 too. Probably wanted him out the door then, too, eh?

Date of Birth over production. HF mentality. :shakehead

I find that you are in teh same boat as the NYR's were and maybe still are with Messier. It is no way for the captain of a time to act. They above anyone else should be putting the team 1st. If he decides to comeback and want a reasonable salary, it is really going to cause problems for you guys. The effects could be long term.
Same circumstances in terms of salary vs cap space but completely different circumstances as to leadership vs results. Stevens is still a championship level player he makes his team better by being a key part of it.

Messier for years has been unwilling to take a lesser role and proves to be nothing more than a problem for his team and coach because of it.

Wasn't it Stevens that got Larry Robinson fired as coach? I think so.

Had to do with Robinson not giving him enough playing time after dispute between Sykora & Elias and Stevens and then Arnott got into Larry and Scott face about it because he was supporting his team mates of the A line.

Robinson got fired and Arnott got traded to Dallas.

But they Robinson and Stevens say Ok things about each other for the name of Team and Lou wouldn't allow anything else.

Wasn't it Stevens that got Larry Robinson fired as coach? I think so.

Had to do with Robinson not giving him enough playing time after dispute between Sykora & Elias and Stevens and then Arnott got into Larry and Scott face about it because he was supporting his team mates of the A line.

Robinson got fired and Arnott got traded to Dallas.


...And then the Devils proceeded to win another Stanley Cup.

See the forest for the trees.

Wasn't it Stevens that got Larry Robinson fired as coach? I think so.

Had to do with Robinson not giving him enough playing time after dispute between Sykora & Elias and Stevens and then Arnott got into Larry and Scott face about it because he was supporting his team mates of the A line.

Robinson got fired and Arnott got traded to Dallas.

But they Robinson and Stevens say Ok things about each other for the name of Team and Lou wouldn't allow anything else.


I wonder how much time it took for you to make this story up. I also wonder how somebody can rip on Stevens the way you have been and still have the nerve to call himself a Devil fan. Nobody deserves more respect from the organization than Stevens does.

I wonder how much time it took for you to make this story up. I also wonder how somebody can rip on Stevens the way you have been and still have the nerve to call himself a Devil fan. Nobody deserves more respect from the organization than Stevens does.

AMEN. Main Devil, Im not so sure we want you as a Devils fan.....you're hereby put on waivers.

What dispute between Stevens, Sykora & Elias?

What dispute between Stevens, Sykora & Elias?
:dunno:

:dunno:

I guess maybe one of them spent a day extra with the Cup.......Sykie, Im looking in your direction.

1990-91 Lost in round 1
1991-92 Lost in round 1 (Stevens joins team)
1992-93 Lost in round 1
1993-94 Lost in round 3 (Brodeur joins team)
1994-95 Won Stanley Cup


The turn around of the Devils organization began with Stevens in 91-92, it was extended with Lemaire in 92-93.

Brodeurs early years were good, but certainly not the reason the Devil won the cup in 1995. Matter of fact, in the Boston series in 1995 Brodeur started out 0-2 and got pulled for game 3 for Terreri. Terreri won game 3 and 4 and Brodeur player every game after that.

Terreri's numbers were very similar to Brodeur those years

1993-94
Martin Brodeur 47.00 2625 105 2.40 27 11 8 1133 0.915 0 3
Chris Terreri 44.00 2340 106 2.72 20 11 4 1035 0.907 2 2

1994-95
Martin Brodeur 40.00 2184 89 2.45 19 11 6 819 0.902 1 3
Chris Terreri 15.00 734 31 2.53 3 7 2 278 0.900 0 0

Wasn't it Stevens that got Larry Robinson fired as coach? I think so.

Had to do with Robinson not giving him enough playing time after dispute between Sykora & Elias and Stevens and then Arnott got into Larry and Scott face about it because he was supporting his team mates of the A line.

Robinson got fired and Arnott got traded to Dallas.

But they Robinson and Stevens say Ok things about each other for the name of Team and Lou wouldn't allow anything else.

I never heard this before.

bryin18 want to discuss the your hero Steven's Washington Caps story when he was a young hockey player? Believe what you want.

bryin18 want to discuss the your hero Steven's Washington Caps story when he was a young hockey player? Believe what you want.

Its Stevens.

Its not fun to make up stories and act like they're real. No one knows what you're talking about, so just drop it and you won't be humiliated further.

bryin18 want to discuss the your hero Steven's Washington Caps story when he was a young hockey player? Believe what you want.

Yeah, he was a hot head in WSH, and when he came to Jersey he matured as a HOF defensman. Case closed.

Same circumstances in terms of salary vs cap space but completely different circumstances as to leadership vs results. Stevens is still a championship level player he makes his team better by being a key part of it.

Messier for years has been unwilling to take a lesser role and proves to be nothing more than a problem for his team and coach because of it.
How many years ago did NJ win? Last time they played he was hurt, last year no one played. You are making quite an assumption that he is still the player he was 3 years ago. I think that the fact that Stevens is taking so long is an indication of how severe the conclussion was. He played after he got whacked and who knows if he didn't get whacked again, much like Richter did. A double conclusion in a very short span is a career killer.

I agree, he's earned that much.

Put me in the group that feels that both Lou and Scott know what his decision is but are just keeping it quiet for cap reasons (if he is playing) or because they never tell us anything anyway (if he isn't).

I wonder if Lou reminisces about when he made his moves under the radar, instead of the microscope.

Say Stevens is 100% and this is his farewell tour. He and Lou have until December 1st to bring him back on his own schedule to keep him at peak for the second half and the playoffs, I don't think he will affect chemistry coming back that late(less salary also) and same with Elias's return at hopefully around that time.

hey a lot of criticism about Lou's moves and non-moves lately, but really, a healthy 100%(if rumors are true) Stevens as your plan B after the Thanksgiving(USA) break? teams could do much worse,
Lou once again in the driver's seat of the stealth :teach:

I wonder if Lou reminisces about when he made his moves under the radar, instead of the microscope.
Great quote!
:bow:

Get rid of Stevens? I can't believe a Devils fan suggested it. Main Devil, are you sure you aren't ATLANTARANGER dressed in Devils clothing? :)

Scott Stevens has the right to take as long as he wants, but I'm with DF on this one. Just because he hasn't been upfront with the media doesn't mean that Lou hasn't been in contact with him or his agent. Stevens is family and is loyal. If he is going to sign, Lou knows about it. If he isn't going to sign, Lou knows about that too. Stop fretting, dude.

I think Stevens will sign when NJ figures out their roster/cap situation. He would play for the league minimum. :bow:

I don't know about league minimum, but I think this is what is happening. Stevens is waiting until Lou knows what he has to deal with cap-wise, and then he'll come in at whatever is reasonable/possible.

The latest Bluelines column by Stan Fischler starts off with Scott Stevens information. Here it is,At least one veteran Devil tells us that he doubts Scott Stevens will be back in New Jersey. “If Scotty hasn’t said anything by now, I believe he’s made up his mind to retire,” the Dev says. Either way, we’ll know soon enough.But Fischler doesn't seem sold on this. Later in his bullet style column, he offers this,As training camp nears, the Scott Stevens mystery nears resolution. But this much is certain, Lou Lamoriello will make (Cap) room for his captain. “I have money for Scott,” says the Devils boss.Here's a link (http://www.msgnetwork.com/content_news.jsp?articleID=v0000msgn20050822T19301 4954&newsgroup=ap.sportsml.columnist.article&sports=ice-hockey&team=devils&league=nhl) to the whole column.

Also, I just once again came across a funny quote from Larry Robinson. He was asked by Stan Fischler about Scott Stevens. Fischler said, "You haven't heard from Scott Stevens; I haven't heard from Scott Stevens." Robinson then said, "I live next to Scott Stevens, and I haven't seen Scott Stevens."