WC: May 4 GDT - Sweden vs. Finland

Match: Sweden vs. Finland
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Can't wait until this game!!!

Norrena in goal for FInland... i was hoping Backstrom but oh wel...



Came accross this clip a little earlier http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/users/harmaja/Videos/Se%20on%20siinä!.avi :D :D

This game is just as fun to watch as the final. And just as important too ;)

This game is just as fun to watch as the final. And just as important too ;)

yup. I say 3-1 Finland... but could go either way.. I doubt it will be very high scoring

Can't wait until this game!!!

Norrena in goal for FInland... i was hoping Backstrom but oh wel...



Came accross this clip a little earlier http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/users/harmaja/Videos/Se%20on%20siinä!.avi (http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/users/harmaja/Videos/Se%20on%20siin%C3%A4%21.avi) :D :D
Dont have any clips from the 6-5 game from 2003 ?
Now that was a game..

Cant wait :handclap: Got class till 3:45 and the game starts at 2:15...since I want to watch the game with no spoilers that means ill have to wait till MediaZone puts the game up (on DL) and im able to watch it until I check the forums. :)

allright, here is my predictions:

4-2 to Sweden

Sweden 5 - 4

Almost exactly a year ago these two teams faced each other in the group play as well. If anyone wants a flashback from that GDT/Game, here you go: http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=74742

Prediction: 2-1 Sweden

This will be a close, low scoring and tight checking game.

I predict sweden will win, 6-5.

I predict Finland 10 - Sweden 0

:biglaugh:

I predict Finland 10 - Sweden 0

:biglaugh:

Why are you laughing at your prediction? ;)

Sweden 6 (D.Sedin 3, H. Sedin 3)
Finland 3 (J. Ruutu 3)

My unbiased, not-at-all-club-team-biased opinion.

Sweden 6 (D.Sedin 3, H. Sedin 3)
Finland 3 (J. Ruutu 3)

My unbiased, not-at-all-club-team-biased opinion.

I have to bring many hats to the game then ;)

Why are you laughing at your prediction? ;)

Sorry, It was meant to be more of a :lol:

4-3 for Finland. :yo:

Lundqvist will stop Finland. He will yield max 2 goals. I dont hope for more or I would be disappointed in him. Comon Lundqvist.

I think Sweden will asskick Finland. 7-0 against the Danes showing great play = No Finnish success (more of sucksass :biglaugh: )

2-1 Sweden

Axelsson (1), Pahlsson (1)
Rita (1)

4-2 for Sweden with an empty netter. We´ll beat you later on then ;)

Nice to see the ol´ duo todether on the ice again. Our Jarkko-boy and Sweden´s Hedström. I´m expecting some serious chatting between these two guys.

Swedes over the Finns by 3

5-2

Dont have any clips from the 6-5 game from 2003 ?
Now that was a game..
Have the complete game, it's a bit to big to post though.

Dont have any clips from the 6-5 game from 2003 ?
Now that was a game..

What are you talking about? There's never been game like that. Stop telling us your dreams....or wait.....oh my god now I can remember..but I thought...my psychiatrist told me it was only nightmare...

that game never took place. it was all a lie. the iraqi ministry of information can vouch for this.

won't make a prediction, when I predict it tends to go the other way.
low scoring game, neither sides really in full tune yet. exciting, emotional and see-saw at times. close with either a draw or a goal more to either side deciding the winner.

no more than 3 goals by either side.

I think Sweden is in better shape right now but won't mean they will win though. Finland have some wicked wrist shots and defenseman with great offensive skills. To win we need to be effective in scoring and Lundqvist needs to play good. Alfie will probably score a goal and either team will win with one or max two goals.

I expect a close low scoring game. 2-2 draw

That 6-5 "game" is an urban myth which never happened in reality, the rumor was started by swedish media and somehow people started believing in it... :teach:

That 6-5 "game" is an urban myth which never happened in reality, the rumor was started by swedish media and somehow people started believing in it... :teach:

Yeah, just like the bronze game in Gothenburg 2002 when Sweden turned 1-3 around to 5-3. Just a myth.. :D

Yeah, just like the bronze game in Gothenburg 2002 when Sweden turned 1-3 around to 5-3. Just a myth.. :D
Right. Now you're getting it. You should be happy about that you finally learned it.

Now back to business. Team Sweden seems to have their game in better shape. It will be a difficult game for Team Finland but I'll bet it can be a difficult game for Team Sweden too. These games have always had an extra spark for both teams and both teams has a player that can (and most likely will) heat up tonight. I'm of course talking about Ruutu and Hedström. However, imo Hedström will heat up easier and thus giving Team Finland PP time from to score the goals needed to win.

My prediction. 3-1 for Team Finland.

Finland is the big favorites in this game. Its a must win for them, I don't think Sweden have anyhting to play for. They have 22+ players out with injurys.(Can a Swedish "B-team" compete with the finns???) Of course I still have some hope that Sweden will have a tiny chance in this game but you know what they say, hope is the last thing that dies... :(

Finland is the big favorites in this game. Its a must win for them, I don't think Sweden have anyhting to play for.
You're funny guy. :biglaugh:

Sweden is the favorite in this game simply because they have played better in this tournament. Finland and Sweden both have much to play in every game they play against each other.

We all have such high expectations, so I'm guessing this will be a pretty boring game with two good goalies and a final score that says 0-0. Since I never seem to predict the right result it will probably be the other way around... ;)

Finland is the big favorites in this game. Its a must win for them, I don't think Sweden have anyhting to play for. They have 22+ players out with injurys.(Can a Swedish "B-team" compete with the finns???) Of course I still have some hope that Sweden will have a tiny chance in this game but you know what they say, hope is the last thing that dies... :(
Well actually its a Swedish "B/C-team", but finns are also lining up with a "B-team". On paper this looks like two very equal teams.

Well, maybe on paper its' b/c but not in reality. Out of those 22 players that are out maybe 5 of them would bring something to the team. Remember that lidström never is great in national team and so on. Two most missed are Peter Forsberg and Mats Sundin, others wouldn't make so big difference imho. We have a good team if we keep things together and sedins can get some speed under their skates and keep the plays a a bit simpler. Also remember that in the form Lundqvist is in he can single handed turn a game around even though Sweden is not the better team.

2-1 Finland

Sweden has been playing well so far, better than Finland. Our offense has not been productive enough. I predict a 5-3 win for Sweden.

Norrena starts in goal

my only prediction is 3-2 (but it could go either way)

Sweden takes this one 3-2 I'm afraid...

I have a bad feeling about this game. Something tells me that Norrena will have one of those games when he saves everything.

2-0 Finland

The best game of World Cup 2004 was the Finn-Swede tie. That was incredible!

Same this time around. Prediction: 2-2

The best game of World Cup 2004 was the Finn-Swede tie. That was incredible!

Same this time around. Prediction: 2-2

ofcourse it was...Finland - Sweden is the real Final. The only thing these teams care about is to beat the other one :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: Im so excited

The best game of World Cup 2004 was the Finn-Swede tie. That was incredible!

Same this time around. Prediction: 2-2

That, and the Czech-Canada semifinal!

Most intense Finland - Sweden game was Nagano quarterfinals, I think I soiled myself about 10 times during the game.

Most intense Finland - Sweden game was Nagano quarterfinals, I think I soiled myself about 10 times during the game.

Yea, that was a true classic. BTW is it possible to get the Nagano 1998 games on DVD somewhere?

IMO a semi-funny thing from AB:
How many of Team Swedens players do you recognize?

Pictures (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641108,00.html)

Key (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641114,00.html)

i don't have a prediction
either way it's gonna be some sweet hockey between good old rivals.

nice. so renberg made the team then :)
man, where are THE elite players like Forsberg, Naslund, Sundin ?

IMO a semi-funny thing from AB:
How many of Team Swedens players do you recognize?

Pictures (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641108,00.html)

Key (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641114,00.html)

IMO a semi-funny thing from AB:
How many of Team Swedens players do you recognize?

Pictures (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641108,00.html)

Key (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641114,00.html)

I recognized all of them except Bäckman! :yo:
I could even see the diffrence between the Sedins! Am I a freak or what? :dunno:

nah, i good the difference b/ween them, just didn't know which one is which
:biglaugh:
I recognized all of them except Bäckman! :yo:
I could even see the diffrence between the Sedins! Am I a freak or what? :dunno:

nah, i good the difference b/ween them, just didn't know which one is which
:biglaugh:

I knew wich one was wich! Daniel has a little smaller forhead than Henrik :biglaugh:

Im with Finland on this one, tight victory 3-2 over Swedes.

Lets get it on :yo:

My prediction is Finland 2 - 2 Sweden.

Sweden was tought against Denmark, but those two games for both teams has just been practice games.

did Denmark practice too ?

;)
My prediction is Finland 2 - 2 Sweden.

Sweden was tought against Denmark, but those two games for both teams has just been practice games.

did Denmark practice too ?

;)

Not enough parently, its not looking good against Ukraine.

Sweden 6-5

11.13 0-1 Kallio
15.22 0-2 Olli Jokinen
24.18 0-3 Kallio
40.55 0-4 Karalahti
43.27 0-5 Peltonen
58.43 1-5 Alfredsson
58.51 2-5 Påhlsson
58.59 3-5 Sundin
59.30 4-5 Alfredsson
59.49 5-5 Kronwall
59.59 6-5 Alfredsson

This is how it usually happens

Sweden 6-5

11.13 0-1 Kallio
15.22 0-2 Olli Jokinen
24.18 0-3 Kallio
40.55 0-4 Karalahti
43.27 0-5 Peltonen
58.43 1-5 Alfredsson
58.51 2-5 Påhlsson
58.59 3-5 Sundin
59.30 4-5 Alfredsson
59.49 5-5 Kronwall
59.59 6-5 Alfredsson

This is how it usually happens

Hey, whats the point of predicting that? If you'd bet money on that you whould win nothing since the odds are so bad...Its like predicting that the sun will go up tomorrow? please... :biglaugh:

Suomi, Suomi, Suomi!!! :jump:

IMO a semi-funny thing from AB:
How many of Team Swedens players do you recognize?

Pictures (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641108,00.html)

Key (http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,641114,00.html)

I got everyone except for Sanny Lindström and Christian Bäckman. :handclap:

As for the game, I predict a Swedish victory, 4-2.

I fear that Sweden has the upperhand in this game, so I'll say 3-1 Sweden.
I probably won't be able to watch the game :cry: so any online updates would be appreciated!

I got everyone except for Sanny Lindström and Christian Bäckman. :handclap:

As for the game, I predict a Swedish victory, 4-2.
Nice avatar. :handclap:

Nice avatar. :handclap:

Thanks, felt an urgent need to change it after several months using some mean looking guy for an avatar. :)

I wanted Bäckas in goal... But it seems we're back on our old tradition of switching goalies from game to game, preventing them from building confidence...


4-3 Finland

Sweden scorers:
D.Sedin
Kahnberg
Alfredsson

Finland scorers:
Kallio
Peltonen
O.Jokinen
Kapanen

Here's hoping our first line starts to work ;)

What are you talking about? There's never been game like that. Stop telling us your dreams....or wait.....oh my god now I can remember..but I thought...my psychiatrist told me it was only nightmare...

Similiar to the dog ***** I stepped on yesterday........it happened.

http://rapidshare.de/files/1572946/6-5_Sverige.mpeg.html

I really hope that was a deflection, if it wasnt Sweden is in big ****.

1-0 Finland

:jump: WOOOHOOO! Finland 1-0. :handclap:

Niko Kapanen deflected the shot. 1-0, im not worried until there is atleast 6-0 for Finland :biglaugh:

at least I have one scorer right ;)

OMG!!!!!! 1-1 Daniel Sedin nice pass to Kronwall who leaves his spot at the blueline!

Sweden's next big star in the NHL makes it 1-1, yeaha!! :)

Our goal was prettier then yours :p:
1-1

Niko Kapanen deflected the shot.

No, it went straight in, Niemi got credited with the goal.

Oh my god, 6 minutes into the game and I'm missing all this action! :cry: Keep the updates coming! Thanks :yo:

If anything will make Finland go out early in this tournament, it's the switching of goalies. Neither one gets enough confidence to play at their top level, which is what is needed...

Sweden's next big star in the NHL makes it 1-1, yeaha!! :)
I love that him and Z are Wings. First we had the Russians (Fedorov, Larionov, Kozlov, Fetisov, Konstantinov) now we are hoarding Swedes (Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Kronwall, Liv? eh). :yo: Vancouver has a nice collection as well.

No, it went straight in, Niemi got credited with the goal.

no he didn't.

Sweden's next big star in the NHL makes it 1-1, yeaha!! :)

yeah, that a boy Daniel :D

I love that him and Z are Wings. First we had the Russians (Fedorov, Larionov, Kozlov, Fetisov, Konstantinov) now we are hoarding Swedes (Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Kronwall, Liv? eh). :yo:

Yeah I also fell for the Wings at the Russians time with Fedorov and the boys. But when Fedorov left Z came to entertain me :)

Oh my god, 6 minutes into the game and I'm missing all this action! :cry: Keep the updates coming! Thanks :yo:

Yes, PLEASE tell as much as possible!

I love that him and Z are Wings. First we had the Russians (Fedorov, Larionov, Kozlov, Fetisov, Konstantinov) now we are hoarding Swedes (Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Kronwall, Liv? eh). :yo: Vancouver has a nice collection as well.

yeah, you're right, they seem to hoard specific groups, like right now they hoard all the 35 and over NHLers. :D

yeah, you're right, they seem to hoard specific groups, like right now they hoard all the 35 and over NHLers. :D

Yeah you've also noticed? their avarage age is like 40 :biglaugh:

yeah, you're right, they seem to hoard specific groups, like right now they hoard all the 35 and over NHLers. :D
LOL not to take this too OT but I believe when the league resumes we'll only have 2 or 3. Lidstrom, Shanny, and hopefully Stevie.

Go Sweden!!

Anaheim have been hoarding alot of swedish role players, but none except Påhlsson seem to be good enough for the NHL. Although I think they've got a winner with Holmqvist.

Let's see who they've tried ;)

Melin, Mårtensson, Holmqvist, Hedström, Påhlsson, etc.

no he didn't.

Ye he did. Atleast that's what it says on IIHF site.

That was crosschecking?!! Bollocks!

Yes, PLEASE tell as much as possible!

At least someone shares my pain ;) What's happening? A penalty for Finland? Who got it?

http://live84.ihwc.net/hydra/live/index.ihwc?game=1000000334

seems to be following well for once...

2 bad penalties wich both went to Finland. Whats up with the bad referees in this tournament?

Referee: BULANOV Vyacheslav RUS Linesmen:LASCHOWSKI Dean, CAN OSKIRKO Yuriy RUS

Another goal by the Sedin line. Assist by Daniel Sedin goal by Sundin. PP goal.

Really stupid penalty by Kapanen. I think that was it for this game.

annoying >_< IIHF shows it as Riku Hahl scoring a goal assisted by Olli Jokinen

http://live84.ihwc.net/hydra/live/index.ihwc?game=1000000334

seems to be following well for once...

Thanks for the link, Matti :jump:
Yay! Another goal 1-2!

Thanks for the link, Matti :jump:
Yay! Another goal 1-2!
for sweden >_< IIHF is wrong

http://live84.ihwc.net/hydra/live/index.ihwc?game=1000000334

seems to be following well for once...
That thing is sooo excruciating! It's like not having tickets to a movie and having to wait outside while someone says "24 mins: Stallone, Sylvester punches someone; 43 mins: Stallone, Sylvester and Zeta-Jones, Catherine have sex (shower)."

Incidentally, the IIHF seem to have a cristal ball: their live updater says that Riku Hahl just scored the Game Winning Goal!

for sweden >_< IIHF is wrong

Yeah, :cry: they just corrected it. It got my hopes up at first, though :madfire: More penalties in this game so far...

Oops! The IIHF have rigged the game the other way, now! They fixed it: Ronnie Sundin has just scored the Game Winner.

Wow, that was a bad first period if I've ever seen one. The swedes didn't skate at all and they played sloppy all over the ice. I hope they start skating in the next period.

They always put the game winner at the latest scorer during the game...

Finland seems to be shooting more now, any quality shots?

BTW... Does anyone else miss "Raivo" Summanen?

I sure do :(

how have the goalies looked?

Wow, that was a bad first period if I've ever seen one. The swedes didn't skate at all and they played sloppy all over the ice. I hope they start skating in the next period.
It was fun to watch though :)

how have the goalies looked?

Both pretty shaky, but considering that their defenses are even shakier I'd say that's pretty normal.

Both pretty shaky, but considering that their defenses are even shakier I'd say that's pretty normal.

swedish defense has been very shaky. Hasn't helped Lundqvist at all.

They always put the game winner at the latest scorer during the game...

Finland seems to be shooting more now, any quality shots?

BTW... Does anyone else miss "Raivo" Summanen?

I sure do :(

My friends and I have been discussing this and I've been saying bring back Summanen. I liked his system and Finland needs a tough coach like him.

My friends and I have been discussing this and I've been saying bring back Summanen. I liked his system and Finland needs a tough coach like him.
I think we could do without Koivu and Niinimaa...

But if say Lehtinen or S.Kapanen declines to play under Summanen... It would be better to keep whoever lameass we've got (Erkka)


Edit... And I still don't know why Finland does this in every tournament.... doesn't trust either of the guys in net... just goes back and forth even if they have a good game... A goalie playing under that can't win us games.

swedish defense has been very shaky. Hasn't helped Lundqvist at all.

Yeah, but thats what happens when you're just standing there, passive like the Swedes did. At least the Finns tried to skate a bit in the first..

Yep, Finland has to straighten out this starting goalie thing more. Remember last year? I still can't forgive Noronen for some of the goals he took in. I think the lack of confidence in a starting goalie has been one of Finland's weaknesses.

Close first period. I think Sweden has an upper hand, but hopefully A.J. Niemi has his wrist ready for the 2nd period.

Ref is looking really bad :( Instead Jarkko Ruutu is looking good ;) Doing his stuff.

We need Ruutu to shake them up... Only Axelsson and Norström are in his weightclass, and I am hoping Timonen delivers another present for "Pebben" ;) to revive old memories.

Go Jakke! :yo: Amazingly, he hasn't taken any penalties yet in this tournament. Has there been any action between him and Hedström yet? ;)

Another wrong penalty for Finland. Its should've been the Swedish player to get a penalty.

Go Jakke! :yo: Amazingly, he hasn't taken any penalties yet in this tournament. Has there been any action between him and Hedström yet? ;)

Yes he has been having some arguments with Hedström,Zetterberg and Norström already...now he got his first penalty wich he shouldn't have got because he did nothing.

Yes he has been having some arguments with Hedström,Zetterberg and Norström already...now he got his first penalty wich he shouldn't have got because he did nothing.

That should fire him up even more :rant: but that's not always good. I guess I spoke a second to early about Ruutu not getting a penalty yet. Damn, I jinxed it.

HEDSTRÖM goal! pass by Weinhandl

That should fire him up even more :rant: but that's not always good. I guess I spoke a second to early about Ruutu not getting a penalty yet. Damn, I jinxed it.
Jakke always plays his best game when he has gotten a penalty... look for him to fly out of the box...

HEDSTRÖM goal! pass by Weinhandl

it is meant that Zetterberg is gonna be Playmaker, Weinhandl Scorer and Hedström the Grinder. They all changed roles for a second :p:

That was a nice goal!

Jakke always plays his best game when he has gotten a penalty... look for him to fly out of the box...

Thats true, he checked Norström into the boards so that he lost his breath right after coming out of the box. Then he almost scored.

That was a nice goal!

More like awful defense. :madfire: :rant:

Thats true, he checked Norström into the boards so that he lost his breath right after coming out of the box. Then he almost scored.
Hopefully he keeps it up >_< Finland needs imo at least one goal in the second period to have a chance in this game...

I am hoping the Teletappi-line wakes up... Maybe Jussi should get a taste of that line?

Jakke always plays his best game when he has gotten a penalty... look for him to fly out of the box...

I guess he gets more fired up while he's in the penalty box. The Evil Mosquito flies out of the net with a vengence. ;)

Pure skill ;)

4-1

More like awful defense. :madfire: :rant:
Well, it still looked good ;)

How has the Teletappi-line looked?

We need offense >_< Jussi on a top line, thank you!

Damn Sweden is good :(

Finland has only one decent line. Our 2nd Hentunen-Kapanen-Pärssinen. Instead our lovely neighbour has 4 very skilled lines.

I hate that Hedström made that goal.... I hate that guy as much as some hate Jarkko Ruutu. And also I would very much like that Bäckström would start at next game. That fourth goal was a bad play by Norrena.

Luckily this wasn't "important" game.

Every game against sweden is an important game >_<

And IMO... Stick with Norrena so that he can build confidence... Or else there will be just back and forth all the time...

How has the Teletappi-line looked?


It's looked good, but we need some scores.

1st line sucks really bad. O. Jokinen helped Sweden alot at their third goal.

It's looked good, but we need some scores.

1st line sucks really bad. O. Jokinen helped Sweden alot at their third goal.
Maybe sticking J.J there for a couple of shifts could work? ;)

Just got back from class to see a 4-1 lead for Sweden. :handclap:

Strange, strange game.

Man, Norrena has absolutely no help out there.

Strange, strange game.

I agree. What's wrong with Finland?

I'm a real fan. I've already stopped wathing, instead I'm watching PSV-Milan (UEFA). So I won't lose my nerves. Someone please tell me the final score was Finland 6-5 Sweden ;)

I agree. What's wrong with Finland?

I don't know. They'll probably come flying out in the third and turn this game around. In any case it shouldn't be impossible for them to do because Sweden isn't playing well at all.

What's wrong with Finland?

Defence, offence, goaltending and coaching. What else do you need :)

how's lundqvist looking? :)

because Sweden isn't playing well at all.

:dunno:

I don't know. They'll probably come flying out in the third and turn this game around. In any case it shouldn't be impossible for them to do because Sweden isn't playing well at all.
It isn`t perfect but what`s the big problem?

how's lundqvist looking? :)

solid, but not much to do so far :)

I am scared that finland will turn this around in the 3rd.

I am scared that finland will turn this around in the 3rd.



Finland can hardly even keep the puck under control. How could they manage to turn this game around?

Finland can hardly even keep the puck under control. How could they manage to turn this game around?

like sweden did ;)

I am scared that finland will turn this around in the 3rd.
Ummm... Not with Erkka there... Very good tactical coach but his motivational skills are suspect.

If they are to turn around, guys like Olli Jokinen and Kimmo Timonen need to be dedicated and ready to take charge.

Oh my god, what a horrible period! Team Finland looked like Japan out there. Sweden was so much better at everything. O. Jokinen, Peltonen, Timonen, Norrena... What the ***** are those guys doing? They're supposed to be our leading players, but they are playing so badly it's almost absurd.

Well, this game is over, but let's hope that this embarrasment gives some motivation for future games. :shakehead

I don't trust Norrena anymore. He seems sooooooo shaky. Put Bäckström on net.

Sweden not looking good? They dominated the second period totally. This team is playing much better than expected if you look at the players on paper. Sweden might be a big upset this championship, I expect them to go to semi at least.

Finland can hardly even keep the puck under control. How could they manage to turn this game around?

They have to kill the Swedish players!

They have to kill the Swedish players!

It seems that they're trying... :shakehead

Referee is horrible, but that doesn't explain why our players take so much of those stupid penalties. What an earth was Kukkonen thinking in that last situation?

Here's hoping Finland starts to play a bit in the third so that the score isn't that humiliating... I am off to sleep...

It seems that they're trying... :shakehead

Referee is horrible, but that doesn't explain why our players take so much of those stupid penalties. What an earth was Kukkonen thinking in that last situation?

Well if the referee whouldn't give Sweden 3 free powerplays maybe they'd have 3 less goals = 1-1. But I agree, Finland takes too many stupid penalties.

It seems that they're trying... :shakehead

Referee is horrible, but that doesn't explain why our players take so much of those *****ing stupid penalties. What an earth was Kukkonen thinking in that last situation?
He wasnt´t..

Sorry, I just got back. Who has scored the five goals? :help:

Sorry, I just got back. Who has scored the five goals? :help:
SWE:
Sundin
Kronwall
Hedström
Påhlsson

FIN:
Niemi

SWE:
Sundin
Kronwall
Hedström
Påhlsson

FIN:
Niemi

Didn't Kapanen get the goal for the deflection?

Didn't Kapanen get the goal for the deflection?
Not in the official ticker, might change :dunno:

What a goal by Hedström :biglaugh:

5-1

This was way too easy. The finns must have been doing laps and lifting weights all day long before this, or they simply threw the game. :shakehead

Excellent play by Sweden, growing every game.

excellent game by Sweden.
Kronwall
Sundin
Norström
Hedström
Lundqvist
Påhlsson
Jönsson
Zetterberg

... where the stand outs on the Swedish team IMO, although quite a few did a good job.

Poorly executed game by the finns and somewhat suspect goaltending did not help either. The top line was pretty much invisible. Personally I would have like to see more of Jussi J.

Good game Sweden. :handclap: :handclap:


Now can someone explain this....does Sweden play the winner or loser of tomorrows US vs Canada game?

This was way too easy. The finns must have been doing laps and lifting weights all day long before this, or they simply threw the game. :shakehead

ah comon be positive for once ;) It would be good for you.

Norrena out, Bäckström in.
J. Jokinen in, O.Jokinen, Peltonen, Kallio, Hagman, Hahl, Rita out.

Good game Sweden. :handclap: :handclap:


thanks. Lundqvist had a great 3rd period.

ah comon be positive for once ;)

But I don't want to. :p:

Good game Sweden. :handclap: :handclap:


Now can someone explain this....does Sweden play the winner or loser of tomorrows US vs Canada game?
Both, the winner first..

Good game Sweden. :handclap: :handclap:


Now can someone explain this....does Sweden play the winner or loser of tomorrows US vs Canada game?

They'll get to play both in the next round.

Gees...what a brutal game. Finland has to play A LOT better than this. This is my reaction to the game:

http://live82.ihwc.net/image/gallery/gallery_2005/20_SWE_FIN/wm05_innsbr_de_055a.jpg

Good game Sweden. :handclap: :handclap:


Now can someone explain this....does Sweden play the winner or loser of tomorrows US vs Canada game?

Sweden will play the winner of group B first on Saturday (the group where both Canada and the US play), and will play the other team on Sunday.

Great game today by Sweden, hard to believe that this is the same team that struggled against Ukraine the other day.

Both, the winner first..


Ah ok...thanks 007, steve and pete.

Sweden 5 - 1 Finland

Shameful showing from Team Finland. I don't remember the last time they've played such an outrageously awful game. Not even that game against Sweden. This game actually reminded me of some of the games against the good old CCCP.

Goaltending was horrible, defence was horrible, passing was horrible, puck control was horrible, we took too many stupid penalties and the referee was horrible (allowed ****loads of hooking, which gave advantage to Sweden). Only Finnish player who gets pardon from me is Jussi Jokinen. He was the only guy in our team that wasn't panicking all the time. When he got icetime he actually managed to keep and pass the puck and create a couple of good scoring chances.

Sweden played a good game. They kept their game simple and their heads cool, and that was enough today. Lundqvist was very good and clearly outplayed his "teacher" Norrena.

Ah ok...thanks 007, steve and pete.
Don't thank me ;), I was rooting for the Finns :shakehead

To sum up:

We sucked from five min on.

Swedes have good special teams, our PP is god awful. Half of this game was played with either team short-handed, you do the math.

Kronval is damn good.

Norrena won't play in this tournament. Jussi Jokinen will.

Two words next time our Russian friends ***** about refs: Vyacheslav Bulanov.

Not in the official ticker, might change :dunno:
I dunno who she( lady in avatar) is but she's most definately Sweden's most valuable natural resource.

I am utterly embarrassed... I feel like puking.... maybe the leijonat should just pack their bags and go home, then ocme abck when they're ready to actually play hockey

Sounds like the "other" Jokinen was the only one who decided to show up for the Finns.....about how much icetime did he manage to get today?

Jeez, what the hell happened? This isn't the Finland I'm used to seeing (Of course I didn't actually see the game, but still). Yes, Finland is minus Koivu, Lehtinen, Selanne, and Numminen, but this is no excuse. They still had the talent to compete with Sweden. Based on what I've been reading, Finland lost because of poor execution and sloppy play. Maybe they need Raimo Summonen back as coach?

the 5th goal by sweden was horrendus. what was norrena doing out of the net so long?

This was a total embarrasment for Finland. Swedes looked like a team is destined to win the gold in this tournament. I think that they really turned it on for this game and it showed.. All the respect to Sweden for playing an excellent game and for making the Finns look like the Washington Generals against the Harlem Globe Trotters. Lundqvist looked great. Norrena not so great.
If you look back to my post a few days ago (can't remember where it is) I predicted that if Finland puts Norrena against the Swedes, well... we would lose. And unfortunately I was right. That being said, I think that Finland will come back re-energized with Backstrom as the #1 goalie for the rest of the tournament.
Expect a lot more from Finland in the coming games.

:hockey:

Sweden looks very good team now when they don´t have that Hardy ruining everything there. Finland looked really bad at this game, but it was Swedes superiority which maked Finland look bad. I hope that Bäckström will play the rest of games, Norrena is not enough for this kind of games.

is this game gonna be shown in canada? just wondering what some canadians might think of how sweden played

Congratulations to Sweden for the win and a good game too. I knew that we have a pretty weak team out there, but today they played under their own level. The first period was good, but I think they were too pumped for the game and that lead to stupid plays and penalties. Games are rarely won from the penalty box.

Also, finishing touch was nowhere to be seen. The team has too many woodhanded players. The strong point was supposed to be speed, but that pretty much vanished after all those penalties.

Based on our performance so far, positions 5-7 seem realistic to me. A lot has to happen before we can seriously hope that this team gets to the medal rounds.

is this game gonna be shown in canada? just wondering what some canadians might think of how sweden played

I just watched it on TSN. They are going to show it again some time during the evening.

I'll I have to say is... Team Finland sucked after it's only goal. All of the players sucked from Team Finland, no exceptions. :shakehead :thumbd:

I just watched it on TSN. They are going to show it again some time during the evening.

I have to say that TSN's coverage of this game was ridiculous. First they don't show the live game, I guess because they were too busy showing golf/tennis, or whatever. And then to top it off, they only showed parts of the periods... Sad.. If this is the effort they are capable, then I say forget the whole thing. I would rather watch it on a scoresheet through the IHWC website.

:soap:

I'll I have to say is... Team Finland sucked after it's only goal. All of the players sucked from Team Finland, no exceptions. :shakehead :thumbd:

Jarrko Ruutu did not suck :rant:

Jarrko Ruutu did not suck :rant:

Jarkko Ruutu is the biggest sucker ever in Team Finland.

Jarkko Ruutu is the biggest sucker ever in Team Finland.

Granted, but he still played about as well as he can play.

Jarkko Ruutu is the biggest sucker ever in Team Finland.

wtf are you talking about...he owned the ice out there!!! I wish he could play for team Sweden :handclap:

I have to say that TSN's coverage of this game was ridiculous. First they don't show the live game, I guess because they were too busy showing golf/tennis, or whatever. And then to top it off, they only showed parts of the periods... Sad.. If this is the effort they are capable, then I say forget the whole thing. I would rather watch it on a scoresheet through the IHWC website.

:soap:

err well the live game would be in the middle of the day, when most people are at work...makes more sense to show it on tape delay

but just showing parts of the period is rediculus

I have to say that TSN's coverage of this game was ridiculous. First they don't show the live game, I guess because they were too busy showing golf/tennis, or whatever. And then to top it off, they only showed parts of the periods... Sad.. If this is the effort they are capable, then I say forget the whole thing. I would rather watch it on a scoresheet through the IHWC website.

:soap:


have fun watching the scoresheets there buddy

wtf are you talking about...he owned the ice out there!!! I wish he could play for team Sweden :handclap:

He´s probably entertaining out there but he´s not helping the team, he have too big ego. I think that he is useless, sad but true.

is this game gonna be shown in canada? just wondering what some canadians might think of how sweden played
Sweden played a very good game tonight. Their D makes great first passes out of their zone. Kronvall is good, very good. Lundqvist will have a great career in the NHL. They have a very good team IMO they don't have any major weaknesses. PP is good, Pk is good, defense is great and Lundqvist is very, very good. I am impress.

cool, thanks. i certainly hope sweden does well for lundqvist's sake, and it's good to hear you liked how he played

Is Olli Jokinen still playing hurt or was the injury he suffered during practice nothing serious?

I have to say that TSN's coverage of this game was ridiculous. First they don't show the live game, I guess because they were too busy showing golf/tennis, or whatever. And then to top it off, they only showed parts of the periods... Sad.. If this is the effort they are capable, then I say forget the whole thing. I would rather watch it on a scoresheet through the IHWC website.

:soap:

That was only the other version. TSN also showed the full game.

Sweden played a very good game tonight. Their D makes great first passes out of their zone. Kronvall is good, very good. Lundqvist will have a great career in the NHL. They have a very good team IMO they don't have any major weaknesses. PP is good, Pk is good, defense is great and Lundqvist is very, very good. I am impress.

Hehe, I think Kronwall and Lundqvist will be the next big stars from Sweden in NHL. Maybe the biggest ever on the defence since Börje Salming!!

There are two forwards in Sweden who is specialized in PK. Thats why it is so good :yo:

Is Olli Jokinen still playing hurt or was the injury he suffered during practice nothing serious?

Yes he is. He said that his shoulder might have to be checked out after the tournament.

Hehe, I think Kronwall and Lundqvist will be the next big stars from Sweden in NHL. Maybe the biggest ever on the defence since Börje Salming!!

Lidstrom's no slouch from what I've seen. ;)

Lidstrom's no slouch from what I've seen. ;)

I think Kronwall will be even bigger and better than Lidström! :eek:

I think Kronwall will be even bigger and better than Lidström! :eek:
I highly doubt it, but I'd be thrilled if he would be.

I think Kronwall will be even bigger and better than Lidström! :eek:

And Pitkänen will still own his ass.

The best thing about the game today is that Bäckström will play the rest.

Observations from the game:

Carolina Prospect Kahnberg looks really good out there. Nice moves and is pretty fast.

Kronwall was all over the place out there. Can't wait for NHL hockey to come back so he'll be there for Detroit. The guy can do it all out there. I really don't see why Detroit needs to re-sign Schneider. Better off getting some grit and goal scoring help up front.

Hedstrom is an enigma to me. He looks great out there but why hasn't he made any kind of impact in the NHL? He plays a North American type game. loved the play where he scored a goal and bodychecked a guy at the same time. Pahlsson looked good out there too.

have fun watching the scoresheets there buddy

Yeah, I will there buddy.

err well the live game would be in the middle of the day, when most people are at work...makes more sense to show it on tape delay

but just showing parts of the period is rediculus

That's what the replay at 2300 is for boss. So no, it makes no sense at all.

That's what the replay at 2300 is for boss. So no, it makes no sense at all.

game is on right now

Hehe, I think Kronwall and Lundqvist will be the next big stars from Sweden in NHL. Maybe the biggest ever on the defence since Börje Salming!!

There are two forwards in Sweden who is specialized in PK. Thats why it is so good :yo:
I think Lundqvist will be the next Pelle Lindberg. He's that good.

And you're right Kronwall will be as good as Lidstrom. He's got

everything you would want a #1 defenseman.

And you're right Kronwall will be as good as Lidstrom. He's got

everything you would want a #1 defenseman.

Except impressive size. However, that never stopped players like Coffey, Housley or Rafalski from having an impact as a top defender. Size can be compensated, especially if you're a good skater, which Kronwall is.

Except impressive size. However, that never stopped players like Coffey, Housley or Rafalski from having an impact as a top defender. Size can be compensated, especially if you're a good skater, which Kronwall is.
The best example I can give in situations like these is Vladimir Konstantinov. The man was a beast and only 5'11 180lbs. Kronwall is bigger than that.

Kocur has hinted that Nik has a bit of Vlady in him. Kronwall loves to hit you if he gets a chance.

Gotta give props for Krönwall. I was really surprised to see how well he played. Swedes really dominated the Finns yesterday.

Time for Westerlund to mix up the lines. Our 3rd line is completely useless. I wanna see Hagman as O. Jokinen´s winger and J. Jokinen seeing more icetime. Rita is useless (at least in that line).

Our 2nd line (Hentunen-Kapanen-Pärssinen) is untouchable.

I really hope Erkka isn't our head coach after this tournament...

He'd be a very fine assistant, but is not much of head coach material...

He chooses a pretty good team, but doesn't know how to play them.

He chooses a pretty good team, but doesn't know how to play them.

I disagree with this one. I can't understand why Rita, Hahl and Eloranta were chosen to our team... Maybe it's just that we don't have better players :)

And I agree with playing stuff. Hopefully Erkka will wake up and J. Jokinen will start at next game. And J. Jokinen must be at 1st or 2nd line or else his talent will be wasted.

I disagree with this one. I can't understand why Rita, Hahl and Eloranta were chosen to our team... Maybe it's just that we don't have better players :)

And I agree with playing stuff. Hopefully Erkka will wake up and J. Jokinen will start at next game. And J. Jokinen must be at 1st or 2nd line or else his talent will be wasted.
I think Ville Peltonen and Tomi Kallio are bound to start scoring soon... So I want to see Jussi as a first line centre and Olli as a third line winger instead of Rita ^^

Except impressive size.

Isn't he 188cm and something like 86-88kg? Some more weight and he has an impressive size.

Isn't he 188cm and something like 86-88kg? Some more weight and he has an impressive size.

Hah, he must have had a very late growth spurt in that case. He was 182 cm tall when he left Sweden for the AHL, at age 22. I don't think he has grown that much since.. Kronwall is barely 6 feet.

If you find different numbers somewhere, then they are wrong.

Hah, he must have had a very late growth spurt in that case. He was 182 cm tall when he left Sweden for the AHL, at age 22. I don't think he has grown that much since.. Kronwall is barely 6 feet.

If you find different numbers somewhere, then they are wrong.
I've seen them list 188cm in pretty much every game... But then again I've also seen them list Saku Koivu at the same height :biglaugh:

IIHF lists Kronwall as 6-2/188 cm...

Griffinshockey.com lists him as 6-0.

Griffinshockey.com lists him as 6-0.

Right, so does most other sites. But he has been listed as 5'11 before, and smaller players tend to "grow" an inch when they start playing in the NHL/AHL..

Right, so does most other sites. But he has been listed as 5'11 before, and smaller players tend to "grow" an inch when they start playing in the NHL/AHL..
Indeed ^^ I've seen Miettinen listed at 6'0½ before ^^

Ruutu vs. Hedström in Expressen (http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=280052)

Ruutu says Hedström is afraid to fight, calls him a ***** and threatens to beat him up. "We live in the same hotel. Room D208. The door is open."

Hedström's answer: "Ruutu thinks he's a tough guy, but he's a clown. He can't skate, so he has to talk instead."

:biglaugh:

How unnecessary, but how entertaining! I hope these two hotheads meet again in this tournament. :handclap:

How unnecessary, but how entertaining! I hope these two hotheads meet again in this tournament. :handclap:

:joker:

I'm wondering, will the teams that loose have to vote one off? Seems like hockey is going that way too.. ;)

Ruutu vs. Hedström in Expressen (http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=280052)

Ruutu says Hedström is afraid to fight, calls him a ***** and threatens to beat him up. "We live in the same hotel. Room D208. The door is open."

Hedström's answer: "Ruutu thinks he's a tough guy, but he's a clown. He can't skate, so he has to talk instead."

:biglaugh:

How unnecessary, but how entertaining! I hope these two hotheads meet again in this tournament. :handclap:
Yeah, that's Jarkko Ruutu for ya. The thing is, he can deliver too when he wants to. Hedström... Well, to me he is the same kind of player than Ruutu. So what he just told to the press. I think he needs to look in the mirror.

Hedström... Well, to me he is the same kind of player than Ruutu.

only thing is that Hedström is among the top 3-4 skaters on the team, has one hell of a shot and is a productive player. Much more than an agitator if you ask me.

only thing is that Hedström is among the top 3-4 skaters on the team, has one hell of a shot and is a productive player. Much more than an agitator if you ask me.
Jarkko Ruutu has good puck handling skills, and is one of the best puck protectors you'll see... A hard slapshot and good movement that gave him a little PP with Vancouver.

Jonathan Hedström isn't quite an NHL-calibre agitator, but has better hockey sense than Ruutu.

Doesn't do the agitating nearly as good as Ruutu.

Jarkko Ruutu has good puck handling skills
.

To be frank, yesterday's game was kind of the proof of the exact opposite. I think Ruutu had a good game (well, better than most finns), but each time he had the puck under control it just took a second before he lost it with below average stickhandling. I do believe the commentators mentioned Ruutu's poor puck control as well.

With that being said, I'd love to have a player like him on Team Sweden.. since he probably is one of the top agitators in the world.. which is why he plays in the NHL.

To be frank, yesterday's game was kind of the proof of the exact opposite. I think Ruutu had a good game (well, better than most finns), but each time he had the puck under control it just took a second before he lost it with below average stickhandling. I do believe the commentators mentioned Ruutu's poor puck control as well.
J.Ruutu can use his stick to put the puck moving with dekes, good passes, etc. on a good day. On a bad day he just loses the puck often. Yesterday was a bad game for Ruutu and rest of the Team Finland.

I do believe the commentators mentioned Ruutu's poor puck control as well.


Not to be mean but swedish commentators seem to have the worst insight on foreign players ever... They also tend to call Niko Kapanen a speed bullet... Kimmo Timonen a weak physical player... Sami Kapanen one-dimensional... Yashin a good penalty-killer... Filip Kuba a bad teamplayer who doesn't put in an effort... Having seen hockey on swedish tv all too long has forced me to use the mute button and just watch...

Not to be mean but swedish commentators seem to have the worst insight on foreign players ever... They also tend to call Niko Kapanen a speed bullet... Kimmo Timonen a weak physical player... Sami Kapanen one-dimensional... Yashin a good penalty-killer... Filip Kuba a bad teamplayer who doesn't put in an effort... Having seen hockey on swedish tv all too long has forced me to use the mute button and just watch...
I actually think Wikegård is doing a good job for TV3 right now..

Kimmo Timonen a weak physical player...

Yesterday he was very weak in every aspect of the game. Propably one of the worst games of his career. It was totally absurd how he was out of position and kept losing his stick all the time. And he should be our number one d-man, for crying out loud! In the third period I wasn't even pissed off anymore, I was just laughing. Maybe the real games are bit too tough for him after a season in Mestis.

Well, there's only one way to go after this fiasco...

That ref and last goals of Sweden left a really bad taste in my mouth . Finns has to get their game together before Canada and Us games :madfire:

I liked Ruutu, Väänänen and Jussi Jokinen. Also Kapanen and his line had some good shifts.

Olli Jokinen was slow and clumpsy, where was Peltonen?? Erkka has to do something to with these lines.

:teach:

That ref and last goals of Sweden left a really bad taste in my mouth . Finns has to get their game together before Canada and Us games :madfire:

I liked Ruutu, Väänänen and Jussi Jokinen. Also Kapanen and his line had some good shifts.

Olli Jokinen was slow and clumpsy, where was Peltonen?? Erkka has to do something to with these lines.

:teach:

Yes, a bad taste indeed. After the first period, they played worse than anything I've seen for years. And they apparently were not too convincing against Denmark and Ukraine either...

Well, lets hope that this game serves as a much needed wakeup call.

anyone think Immonen might have been a better pick than someone for this years team? :dunno:

I don't know what kind of camp he had, and he usually seems to get stuck behind some guys in the depth chart when it comes to international competition...but just wondering if maybe he should have been given a shot?

anyone think Immonen might have been a better pick than someone for this years team?
No, but expecting lot from him the next.

Hah, he must have had a very late growth spurt in that case. He was 182 cm tall when he left Sweden for the AHL, at age 22. I don't think he has grown that much since.. Kronwall is barely 6 feet.

If you find different numbers somewhere, then they are wrong.

I think that they showed these numbers at last night broadcast.

I really hope Erkka isn't our head coach after this tournament...

He'd be a very fine assistant, but is not much of head coach material...

He chooses a pretty good team, but doesn't know how to play them.

if he were to get fired.. who do you think would replace him? I heard Blomqvist is going back into coaching :D

if he were to get fired.. who do you think would replace him? I heard Blomqvist is going back into coaching :D
He'd have the players' respect for sure... But I'd go for someone more experienced....

And considered our "own" coaches haven't won a gold... And that we are a nation that hasn't tasted gold in 10 years, even though hockey is held in big esteem... I think it's time to take in a foreigner to lead it... Sutter from Calgary would be gold, but no chance he'd come to coach a national team in europe I think...

if he were to get fired.. who do you think would replace him? I heard Blomqvist is going back into coaching :D

There is only one Hannu Jortikka.

Kummola wont be able to select anyone else.

There is only one Hannu Jortikka.

Kummola wont be able to select anyone else.'

the day Jortikka becomes the head coach of our national team I'll stop watching these games.

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the day Jortikka becomes the head coach of our national team I'll stop watching these games.

Figure you won't have to wait too long for that.

Figure you won't have to wait too long for that.
There are other options too. Jortikka is still one of the favorites but not a "sure thing". :teach:

There are other options too. Jortikka is still one of the favorites but not a "sure thing". :teach:

Do yuo really think Kummola can pass over him for a third time?

First he hired Summanen and 3 others to do the job because "Jortikka wanted too much money" - And 4 people dont equal that??

Then after Summanen got sacked, in a panick they didnt even look but appointed Westerlund despite the nation calling for Jortikka.

Now, it's 3rd time lucky.

I think we need someone who is able to really lead the team and make the players play as planned, without causing too much bad blood among them. The middle road between psychotic (R.S.) and too soft (E.W.). I think Jortikka would fit that bill.

Would it be too much if we hired a coach from outside the country? Curre was the previous foreigner. I think that could spice up the atmosphere a bit and Kummola would keep his mouth shut.

Do yuo really think Kummola can pass over him for a third time?

First he hired Summanen and 3 others to do the job because "Jortikka wanted too much money" - And 4 people dont equal that??

Then after Summanen got sacked, in a panick they didnt even look but appointed Westerlund despite the nation calling for Jortikka.

Now, it's 3rd time lucky.


If we fail totally in this tournament or even get eliminated in the quarters, I wouldn't be too surprised if Erkka got demoted, instead of a sacking, to assistant once again, with maybe Jortikka taking the reigns. Erkka's knowledge of the game is too valuable to completely ditch, we just need someone to "force it down the players throats", something Erkka has failed to do.

If we fail totally in this tournament or even get eliminated in the quarters, I wouldn't be too surprised if Erkka got demoted, instead of a sacking, to assistant once again, with maybe Jortikka taking the reigns. Erkka's knowledge of the game is too valuable to completely ditch, we just need someone to "force it down the players throats", something Erkka has failed to do.

Completely agreed.

Erkka's knowledge of the game is so good, that we can't let it slip, but we also need a coach that can get players to play with intensity, heart and great determination.. Something Erkka has failed to achieve.

Do yuo really think Kummola can pass over him for a third time?
I think Kummola will pass him over if he really wants to, but there's another thing. What if Jortikka doesn't want to take the helm? In that case a foreign head coach might be a good choice.

Would it be too much if we hired a coach from outside the country? Curre was the previous foreigner. I think that could spice up the atmosphere a bit and Kummola would keep his mouth shut.

They should give Igor Larionov a call ;)

They should give Igor Larionov a call ;)

Nah, I prefer an Arnold Schwarzenegger type of a coach. Hans Zach! :D

Nah, I prefer an Arnold Schwarzenegger type of a coach. Hans Zach! :D

Ah. The german fascist dictator style of coaching. ;)

Would it be too much if we hired a coach from outside the country? Curre was the previous foreigner. I think that could spice up the atmosphere a bit and Kummola would keep his mouth shut.
IMO it seems that no finnish coach at the moment can bring anything new to the team... With the teams we've had it's a miracle we only have one gold... Wayne Fleming could be a realistic alternative... But if one of the Sutter boys comes around ;)

A Canadian coach would be preferred considering our players mostly play canadian.

IMO it seems that no finnish coach at the moment can bring anything new to the team... With the teams we've had it's a miracle we only have one gold... Wayne Fleming could be a realistic alternative... But if one of the Sutter boys comes around ;)

A Canadian coach would be preferred considering our players mostly play canadian.

Why isn't that Raimo Summanen coach anymore?

Why isn't that Raimo Summanen coach anymore?
Because Jaana and the girltroop (which sadly enough has Saku in it...) objected to him, because Jaana didn't get loads of icetime when playing like a retarded circus monkey who was lost on his way home from banana school.

Because Jaana and the girltroop (which sadly enough has Saku in it...) objected to him, because Jaana didn't get loads of icetime when playing like a retarded circus monkey who was lost on his way home from banana school.

Thats a sad sad sad story :cry:

Thats a sad sad sad story :cry:
Yeah... You can call Summanen's way of coaching, coaching by fear, hate and stuff crazy... but it is what is needed to light a fire under these heartless bums which seem to form the national team nowadays...

Yeah... You can call Summanen's way of coaching, coaching by fear, hate and stuff crazy... but it is what is needed to light a fire under these heartless bums which seem to form the national team nowadays...

Yeah he did a good job to make them play good in the World Cup. Too bad they're sucha crybabies...

Yeah he did a good job to make them play good in the World Cup. Too bad they're sucha crybabies...

Don't believe everything Mattihp says - fact is that Summanen was being an ******* and continued to badmouth Niinimaa even after he had left the team until Saku had to stand up and told Summanen to **** and move on.

Summanen was the kind of coach that gives you 1 year of good coaching, after that players don't buy his badass style anymore - especially NHLers. It might work in Europe but not among NHL pros.