WC: May 3 GDT - USA vs. Latvia

Predatore
05-03-2005, 05:44 AM
Match: USA vs. Latvia
Official Website: http://www.ihwc.net/english/
Online Statistics & Rosters: http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_05/output/ws/hydra.iihf.com/IIHF_Core/jsp/content/web_output/index.jsp@compId=1000000009

Crossroads*
05-03-2005, 10:01 AM
2-1 USA or 2-1 Latvia, it could go either way.

Rabid Ranger
05-03-2005, 10:02 AM
I think the U.S. will have learned some things from Canada's game against Latvia. I look for a 5-2 victory for the U.S.

ALF AmericanLionsFan
05-03-2005, 11:38 AM
I'll say 4 -2 victory USA

Captain Leaf
05-03-2005, 12:41 PM
If the US doesnt win by 6 i will be shocked .I know my fellow Canadians think lowly of this US team but i think you guys are Gold medal contenders along with Russia .

nyrmessier011
05-03-2005, 01:46 PM
yea let's win today boys, set up a 2-0 showdown with Canada on Thurs....USA!!!!!!!

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 02:19 PM
6-3 USA sounds more realistic but I'm hoping for a surprise from Latvia, so 3-2 Latvia.

Thornton97
05-03-2005, 02:22 PM
US will score a last minute touchdown instead of going for the gametying field goal; US: 17 Latvia: 13.





Nah, I like 4-1 US.

eSabre
05-03-2005, 02:30 PM
5-1 US.

It'll be closer than the score says.

William H Bonney
05-03-2005, 03:33 PM
online radio feed?

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 03:43 PM
0-1 Sprukts on PP.

This has been Latvia`s game so far. Ty Conklin has made couple of key saves while Irbe has had nothing to do.

missK
05-03-2005, 03:43 PM
online radio feed?

None available, only Mediazone (http://www.mediazone.com/channel/hockey/jsp/fullschedule.jsp#), online pay-per-view.

Levitate
05-03-2005, 03:44 PM
weak

conklin got a delay of game penalty :shakehead

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 03:50 PM
First period is over. It`s still 0-1.

Very entertaining game I would say.

starsgal09
05-03-2005, 03:50 PM
Did he shoot the puck over the glass or what?

Robertsson 4-ever
05-03-2005, 03:51 PM
Yan Stastny is a surprise for me. Haven't seen him play before, but he looks really good. He is making some shifty moves, and is where things are happening on the ice.

And some nice puckhandling skills by Weight in the last shift, to bad none of the passes came through.

Latvia played well in the first, and deserve the lead.

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 03:52 PM
Did he shoot the puck over the glass or what?yes.

Levitate
05-03-2005, 03:52 PM
not sure, probably...i just hate it when goalies get that penalty, and I believe it resulted in the goal against as well

wilka91*
05-03-2005, 03:55 PM
Go Latvia! :yo:

Vikke
05-03-2005, 03:55 PM
Go Latvia! :yo:

I agree! :clap:

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 03:57 PM
Latvians are not well known their ability to keep the lead. So believe this game will turn to Yankies.

Riddarn
05-03-2005, 03:57 PM
I agree! :clap:

Me too! :)

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 04:09 PM
Ref just dissallowed a Latvian goal, because player was on the crease.

espo
05-03-2005, 04:09 PM
We're supposed to be getting this game on tsn here but right now it's liverpool versus Chelsea in English premier football, nothing wrong with that normally but i'd rather watch the hockey game.Apparently we will only get this game tonight on tape delay.Better late then never i guess.

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 04:13 PM
Conklin with a break-away save. Latvia takes an interference penatly. US now on PP.

US is getting their butts handed to them right now.

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 04:21 PM
Sounds like a great game...too bad I can't watch it. Go Latvia Go!

sk84fun_dc
05-03-2005, 04:22 PM
I expected this game to be a battle. Latvia never gave up against Canada and they play as a team - some solid players, too. Irbe plays with a ton of pride, too. Hopefully, USA pulls it out.

FYI, IIHF Yan Stastny article (http://www.ihwc.net/english/article/qa/index.ihwc?&artId=2017)

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 04:31 PM
FINALLY!

Doug Weight from Eric Cole. Score 1:1

Robertsson 4-ever
05-03-2005, 04:31 PM
Doug Weight with a beauty to make it 1-1.

Engineer
05-03-2005, 04:32 PM
Great goal by Weight, redirect into the top far corner on a jumping pass from Cole, after some Weight moves at center ice. Goal scorers goal from a passer.

Engineer
05-03-2005, 04:36 PM
We're supposed to be getting this game on tsn here but right now it's liverpool versus Chelsea in English premier football, nothing wrong with that normally but i'd rather watch the hockey game.Apparently we will only get this game tonight on tape delay.Better late then never i guess.

That's not Premiership - That's Champions League!!!

That is a much anticipated game, I tell ya. Imagine Rangers Vs. Devils in the Conference Final, game 7. (ok, maybe a bit of a leap of imagination. I mean... the Rangers?)

espo
05-03-2005, 04:53 PM
That's not Premiership - That's Champions League!!!

That is a much anticipated game, I tell ya. Imagine Rangers Vs. Devils in the Conference Final, game 7. (ok, maybe a bit of a leap of imagination. I mean... the Rangers?)
Well,i'm not too up on my football.Usually all i watch is the world cup.I should watch more,especially with the lock-out.

espo
05-03-2005, 04:55 PM
Great goal by Weight, redirect into the top far corner on a jumping pass from Cole, after some Weight moves at center ice. Goal scorers goal from a passer.
Weight's their leading guy....i've said it before and i'll say it again.

Oil_slick9416*
05-03-2005, 05:04 PM
keep the updates coming

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:09 PM
Mark Parrish from Doug Weight on the PP. 2:1 US

espo
05-03-2005, 05:10 PM
Gee.......Weight again in on it.What a f'in shocker!!!

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:10 PM
Modano on his way to the locker room with what appears to be a upper arm injury. He took a cross check from a Latvia player which drew the aforementioned PP.

Pepper
05-03-2005, 05:11 PM
Very weak call against Latvia, that was a crosscheck maybe in women's junior hockey but not at WC tournament.

Two very iffy calls against Latvia in 2nd period, first ref blew whistle way too early and disallowed the Latvian goal which went in fractions later, then a clear goal was missed because because the ref didn't go upstairs to check it.

The refereeing is brutal.

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:12 PM
The refereeing is brutal.

...so are these announcers..good god they're annoying.. :rant:

espo
05-03-2005, 05:19 PM
Sounds like the Latvians are giving the U.S all they can handle,they've even had two goals dissalowed. They are usually very competitive.

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:22 PM
The ice has definitely tilted in the US's favor in the 3rd. Irbe has come up big. Just stopped a two on one.

Hats off to the Latvians though - they are a very fast team that take full advantage of the larger ice surface. One break and they are right back in this baby.

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 05:24 PM
Very weak call against Latvia, that was a crosscheck maybe in women's junior hockey but not at WC tournament.

Two very iffy calls against Latvia in 2nd period, first ref blew whistle way too early and disallowed the Latvian goal which went in fractions later, then a clear goal was missed because because the ref didn't go upstairs to check it.

The refereeing is brutal.

This is extremely annoying. A hockey nation like the US should not get that kind of help from the refs.

Edit: who are the refs?

espo
05-03-2005, 05:24 PM
How much time is left?

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 05:26 PM
2 mins

Ref is Schindler (CZE) I believe.

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:29 PM
20 seconds to go. Time-out Latvia. Face off in the US zone.

espo
05-03-2005, 05:30 PM
2 mins

Ref is Schindler (CZE) I believe.
thx man.....tense moments coming up.

nyrmessier011
05-03-2005, 05:30 PM
Final 3-1

From what I saw (17 mins on in 2nd per) US toyed with them. Any details on the first half of the game? Was it the same

X0ssbar
05-03-2005, 05:31 PM
Parrish with an empty netter.

US wins 3:1 :handclap:

Unbelievable game by the Latvians - they could have easily stole this game if it weren't for Conklin.

SergeiK
05-03-2005, 05:32 PM
Very weak call against Latvia, that was a crosscheck maybe in women's junior hockey but not at WC tournament.

Two very iffy calls against Latvia in 2nd period, first ref blew whistle way too early and disallowed the Latvian goal which went in fractions later, then a clear goal was missed because because the ref didn't go upstairs to check it.
The refereeing is brutal.I agree.

Is the same problems that riefe major football tournaments rising in hockey as well? These so called "big nations" (I count Finland one of those) do not reserve this kind of help from referees. I´m still pretty worried - is this intentional?



Unbelievable game by the Latvians - they could have easily stole this game if it weren't for Conklin.The refs name was Schindler, not Conklin.


Hockey is not fair sport. Not tonight at least.

Oil_slick9416*
05-03-2005, 05:35 PM
I agree.

Is the same problems that riefe major football tournaments rising in hockey as well? These so called "big nations" (I count Finland one of those) do not reserve this kind of help from referees. I´m still pretty worried - is this intentional?


The refs name was Schindler, not Conklin.


Hockey is not fair sport. Not tonight at least.


conkin is the us goalie ;)

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 05:35 PM
I didn't see the game, but based on the comments here, it all leaves a bad taste...come on, two disallowed goals. Jumalauta!

Edit: I hope Latvia's coach logs a complaint against the reffing. This Schindler character has had sub-par performances before too, but this time it seems a bit too much to stomach.

wassup77
05-03-2005, 05:38 PM
I didn't see the game, but based on the comments here, it all leaves a bad taste...come on, two disallowed goals. Jumalauta!

What does "Jumalauta!" means? My granny often says that to me :dunno:

reaper
05-03-2005, 05:40 PM
Don't know what Sindler is doing in the world championships. His standard is not even close to SEL standard. Seen him destroy games before, get rid of him I say.

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 05:41 PM
What does "Jumalauta!" means? My granny often says that to me :dunno:

It's a bad word basically :) It doesn't sound like much If I translate it, but it really is a pretty powerfull word in the Finnish language.

So you have Finnish background. You must feel a bit uncomfortable watching tomorrow's game then ;)

wassup77
05-03-2005, 05:59 PM
It's a bad word basically :) It doesn't sound like much If I translate it, but it really is a pretty powerfull word in the Finnish language.

So you have Finnish background. You must feel a bit uncomfortable watching tomorrow's game then ;)

Haha, well no. Since most of my friends are Finns I have to cheer for Sweden so thats no problem :snide:

We like to trashtalk alot every year when Finland faces Sweden :biglaugh:

I was hoping for Finland to win World Cup though after I got so dissapointed by Sweden.

Boucicaut
05-03-2005, 06:03 PM
Haha, well no. Since most of my friends are Finns I have to cheer for Sweden so thats no problem :snide:

We like to trashtalk alot every year when Finland faces Sweden :biglaugh:

I was hoping for Finland to win World Cup though after I got so dissapointed by Sweden.

:) I actually met some Swedes just before the World Cup final started at the ACC, and they all hoped for Finland to win it. I'm sure though, that they had bought the tickets thinking they'll see Sweden play Canada or the US. Those were my predictions also.

I think your team has the edge this time. Team Finland has not been very convincing yet IMO, whereas team Sweden has geled nicely.

RedLightDistrict
05-03-2005, 06:38 PM
If anyone has any photo links to the game, I'd appreciate that very much. Particuarly of Irbe and Conklin

wilka91*
05-03-2005, 06:57 PM
it's weird but on a Russian forum, there are 171 replies in the LAT-USA gamethread whereas there are only Russians there. the Americans don't seem to care, neither do the Canadians and all the other Swedes and Russians and Finns and Czechs and ... from here don't seem to care either

reaper
05-03-2005, 06:59 PM
Well, USA vs Latvia is not very exciting game, will probably be more replies as tournament progresses.

ALF AmericanLionsFan
05-03-2005, 06:59 PM
Game made me nervous as I checked it from work. I knew this would be a tough game after having such an easy time with Slovenia. I give Latvia props for playing so tough.

wassup77
05-03-2005, 07:01 PM
it's weird but on a Russian forum, there are 171 replies in the LAT-USA gamethread whereas there are only Russians there. the Americans don't seem to care, neither do the Canadians and all the other Swedes and Russians and Finns and Czechs and ... here

maybe they're not much for forums in canada/america :dunno:

even though its a fact that americans don't care much for hockey...

here in Sweden people are starting to lose interest for hockey too. Everybody are talking about soccer nowadays :shakehead

wilka91*
05-03-2005, 07:09 PM
"sucker" sucks ass :lol:

ALF AmericanLionsFan
05-03-2005, 07:13 PM
maybe they're not much for forums in canada/america :dunno:

even though its a fact that americans don't care much for hockey...

here in Sweden people are starting to lose interest for hockey too. Everybody are talking about soccer nowadays :shakehead
Not so sure its for lack of caring,but the time difference doesn't allow for them to be near a t.v. or compute to follow the games. Everyone is at work or school.

wilka91*
05-03-2005, 07:14 PM
Not so sure its for lack of caring,but the time difference doesn't allow for them to be near a t.v. or compute to follow the games. Everyone is at work or school.

yeah that's also true

wassup77
05-03-2005, 07:16 PM
Not so sure its for lack of caring,but the time difference doesn't allow for them to be near a t.v. or compute to follow the games. Everyone is at work or school.

Who the hell cares about shool or work when its HOCKEY on TV? :biglaugh:

I was "ill" during the World Cup and stayed up all nights watching the games in Canada :innocent:

Thornton97
05-03-2005, 07:19 PM
I will now proceed to add 100 posts to this thread to reach our quota.




Nah, nevermind, I'm an American, I'm far to lazy.

And what are you folks doing on this hock-key board anyhoo? There's more important things going on like the Kentucky Derby and Poker. Sheesh.




No, like was mentioned, US/Latvia isn't, how do we say it, "exciting." I would suspect Thursday will be better and if the U.S. is put into a position of medaling, it will be much better. Heck, I might even get excited.

Go USA

ALF AmericanLionsFan
05-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Who the hell cares about shool or work when its HOCKEY on TV? :biglaugh:

I was "ill" during the World Cup and stayed up all nights watching the games in Canada :innocent:
I agree with you except with have no t.v. or radio of these games :madfire: Although today I couldn't follow with the computer because I had to teach a class during the time of the game. Should have made them due a report on the World Championships...Maybe Thurs. when we play Canada!!!!!!!! ;)

s7ark
05-03-2005, 07:20 PM
Good to hear that Conklin played well :) Go Conks!!! Just not against Canada ;)

Thornton97
05-03-2005, 07:20 PM
Who the hell cares about shool or work when its HOCKEY on TV? :biglaugh:




Ain't nothing hockey related on TV here in the states. We just have re-runs of some classic 1979 NY Yankees games, Poker, and "PTI."

Sotnos
05-03-2005, 07:23 PM
I will no proceed to add 100 posts to this thread to reach our quota.

Nah, nevermind, I'm an American, I'm far to lazy.

And what are you folks doing on this hock-key board anyhoo? There's more important things going on like the Kentucky Derby and Poker. Sheesh.

No, like was mentioned, US/Latvia isn't, how do we say it, "exciting." I would suspect Thursday will be better and if the U.S. is put into a position of medaling, it will be much better. Heck, I might even get excited.

Go USA
:handclap:

wassup77
05-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Ain't nothing hockey related on TV here in the states. We just have re-runs of some classic 1979 NY Yankees games, Poker, and "PTI."

Thats a shame. Its sounds wierd that not one single TV-station has bought rights to show the worlds :eek:
Poker is not even fun to watch anymore..does poker really get high ratings over there?

SChan*
05-03-2005, 07:42 PM
i feel bad for the americans that need to watch that poker crap instead of hockey.

Hockeyfan02
05-03-2005, 07:55 PM
Thats a shame. Its sounds wierd that not one single TV-station has bought rights to show the worlds :eek:
Poker is not even fun to watch anymore..does poker really get high ratings over there?

It's a huge craze around here that boomed when ESPN put it on primetime and a few networks have their own shows.

I don't think anyone picked up the worlds because well it's really a secondary tournament when the playoffs are going on. I'm not really surprised no one has picked it up. NBA playoffs and MLB season in full swing has the sports channels locked up during the week.

wassup77
05-03-2005, 07:58 PM
It's a huge craze around here that boomed when ESPN put it on primetime and a few networks have their own shows.

I don't think anyone picked up the worlds because well it's really a secondary tournament when the playoffs are going on. I'm not really surprised no one has picked it up. NBA playoffs and MLB season in full swing has the sports channels locked up during the week.

Okay, NBA playoffs I can understand is more popular than the worlds.

Levitate
05-03-2005, 07:59 PM
Who the hell cares about shool or work when its HOCKEY on TV?

er yeah, like has been pointed out, there actually is no hockey on tv here ;)

I followed some with the online trackers at work but yeah...i actually have to do work too

Rabid Ranger
05-03-2005, 08:03 PM
Full props to Latvia. Great effort from them, but also a decent game from the U.S. Outshot the Latvians by a two-to-one margin and received some quality goaltending from Ty Conklin. The game against Canada will be pretty interesting.

wilka91*
05-03-2005, 08:15 PM
USA must beat Canada!

CDeeps
05-03-2005, 08:28 PM
I read Mike Modano left the ice with a shoulder injury. Does anybody know anything about this? I'm actually surprised Mike hasn't recorded a point yet. So far Weight has been the difference maker on offense, displaying puck moving skills and setting up Mark Parrish for 3 goals in two games.

s7ark
05-03-2005, 08:30 PM
USA must beat Canada!


Unless the Canadian defense starts to pick up their game that could very well happen. Weight and Modano always seems to pick up their game against Canada

bling
05-03-2005, 08:35 PM
I read Mike Modano left the ice with a shoulder injury. Does anybody know anything about this? I'm actually surprised Mike hasn't recorded a point yet. So far Weight has been the difference maker on offense, displaying puck moving skills and setting up Mark Parrish for 3 goals in two games.

Modano was out for a bit. He returned to the ice later in the game. Probably just a stinger or something no too serious.

Conando
05-03-2005, 10:12 PM
anyone know if Suter is gonna be playing in the game against Canada? ... much appreciated for any information about his status for the Canadian Game

handtrick
05-03-2005, 10:16 PM
anyone know if Suter is gonna be playing in the game against Canada? ... much appreciated for any information about his status for the Canadian Game


this article says he will be available for the game against Canada.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/may05/323112.asp

Conando
05-03-2005, 10:19 PM
The American Defense is the best in the tournament (statistically-wise), we'll see how it performs against the vaunted Canadians

Hasbro
05-03-2005, 10:22 PM
Team America! **** Yeah!

Roger's Pancreas*
05-03-2005, 10:39 PM
USA must beat Canada!

I'm with you on that Wilka. If Canada's defensive core keeps playing like they have then we've got this game wrapped up!

ALF AmericanLionsFan
05-03-2005, 10:53 PM
I'm wondering who is going to be starting in the nets for USA? Conklin or Dipietro?

CDeeps
05-03-2005, 10:56 PM
I'm with you on that Wilka. If Canada's defensive core keeps playing like they have then we've got this game wrapped up!

Well how has our defense been playing? I haven't been able to see any of the games so I don't know. I do know Canada's blueline has been less than spectacular, only because I've read so much about it on tsn.ca, SlamSports, the Globe and Mail, etc. True, Canada has won two games, but Jovo, Philips, Regher, and Souray have been sloppy. Can somebody tell me how well Team USA's defense has been performing and if anyone has stood out in particular? I know Roach and Gill are both +4, but that number has certainly been inflated by the 7-0 romp over Slovenia.

Steveorama
05-03-2005, 11:49 PM
The American Defense is the best in the tournament (statistically-wise), we'll see how it performs against the vaunted Canadians
Hmmm...both teams have played Latvia and Slovenia.
US has given up 33 shots, Canada has given up 37 shots.
Are American fans really hanging their hats on "superior defense".
We'll see on Thursday, I suppose...

Streaker-man
05-04-2005, 12:25 AM
Oh man... Gotta praise Latvia now. They were awesome! I just loved the way they played. Great fans! Best in the whole world right now, no doubt.

Too bad the ref denied those 2 goals. The first was actually quite a clear call but the 2nd he should have checked out.

Go Latvia!

Raimo Sillanpää
05-04-2005, 03:36 AM
What does "Jumalauta!" means? My granny often says that to me :dunno:

It's an abrreviation of two words originally.
Jumala - god
auta - help

so literally its supposed to mean "god help me" , but erh.. in reality, the abbreviated word means more like "god curse it" - except with the curse being a similar word starting with the letter d.
and take out the spaces.

Raimo Sillanpää
05-04-2005, 03:38 AM
great game, latvians unfortunate not to win it.

usa turned it on at about the halfway mark and deserved the win on that dominance they showed then. Weight in particular seemed to be an immovable force in front of the net. His line was always always dangerous. Modano looked like he hasnt found his groove yet.

that stastny kid, looked completely useless.

early on I thocuht that Conklin was having a stinker, at least the first part of the game he was in dire straights - but at the end he pulled it together and became unbeatable.

jekoh
05-04-2005, 06:13 AM
this article says he will be available for the game against Canada.No, from what I understand, you can only add players once the first round is completed. That also explains why Obšut didn't play in Slovakia's second game.

stv11
05-04-2005, 07:15 AM
That would be true if the US had a full 23 men roster. However, there are only 22 players on team USA's roster, so they can add a 23rd at any time.

psycho_dad
05-04-2005, 08:00 AM
I wonder why Gill did not play PK when Latvia scored. There is no way in hell that Latvian guy would have gotten even close to the puck if Hal had been there. He is great on PK and especially in keeping the front of the net clear from opponents.

Great game by Latvia..that one goal should have been checked from videoref. It looked like it was in.

jekoh
05-04-2005, 08:29 AM
That would be true if the US had a full 23 men roster. However, there are only 22 players on team USA's roster, so they can add a 23rd at any time.Ok, missed that part.

Jussi
05-04-2005, 08:30 AM
Great game by Latvia..that one goal should have been checked from videoref. It looked like it was in.

Yeah, but it wasn't. Missed it by "that" much.

Jussi
05-04-2005, 08:33 AM
It's an abrreviation of two words originally.
Jumala - god
auta - help

so literally its supposed to mean "god help me" , but erh.. in reality, the abbreviated word means more like "god curse it" - except with the curse being a similar word starting with the letter d.
and take out the spaces.

*******(it) is probably the more correct translation. Btw, I noticed recently that this was bleebed out on Conan. I thought this was a fairly mild curse word. :confused:

Rabid Ranger
05-04-2005, 10:22 AM
great game, latvians unfortunate not to win it.

usa turned it on at about the halfway mark and deserved the win on that dominance they showed then. Weight in particular seemed to be an immovable force in front of the net. His line was always always dangerous. Modano looked like he hasnt found his groove yet.

that stastny kid, looked completely useless.

early on I thocuht that Conklin was having a stinker, at least the first part of the game he was in dire straights - but at the end he pulled it together and became unbeatable.

I disagree on Stastny. He had three excellent scoring chances and showed alot of speed.

Levitate
05-04-2005, 10:51 AM
Btw, I noticed recently that this was bleebed out on Conan. I thought this was a fairly mild curse word.

what is, goddammit?

it's the religious, blasphemous thing i think. they used to (and probably still do, i just haven't heard it lately) bleep out the "god" part but leave in the "dammit" on radio and tv

Levitate
05-04-2005, 10:54 AM
Hmmm...both teams have played Latvia and Slovenia.
US has given up 33 shots, Canada has given up 37 shots.
Are American fans really hanging their hats on "superior defense".
We'll see on Thursday, I suppose...

since I haven't seen any of the games i can't say anything definitively, but there is the whole "quality of shots" angle to look at things with. if canada is only allowing 18-19 shots per game but giving up really good scoring chances when they do allow a shot, that's not really good defense. if the US is allowing approx the same or less and is limiting the good scoring chances, that is good defense.

but since I haven't seen the games, I don't know. just pointing out there is more to it than shot totals

Rabid Ranger
05-04-2005, 11:08 AM
since I haven't seen any of the games i can't say anything definitively, but there is the whole "quality of shots" angle to look at things with. if canada is only allowing 18-19 shots per game but giving up really good scoring chances when they do allow a shot, that's not really good defense. if the US is allowing approx the same or less and is limiting the good scoring chances, that is good defense.

but since I haven't seen the games, I don't know. just pointing out there is more to it than shot totals


The U.S. defense was running around alot in much of the first and second periods, but put the clamps down in the 3rd. The play of Ty Conklin didn't hurt either, as he had to make a few difficult stops. The U.S. will have to play much better from the start of the game to beat Canada.

espo
05-04-2005, 11:46 AM
USA must beat Canada!
Don't worry about that game,your team has enough problems of it's own to contend with.Like getting out of eighth place or whatever you finished last year.