Predatore 05-02-2005, 01:16 AM Match: Sweden vs. Denmark
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4 nipple finn 05-02-2005, 01:28 AM if sweden comes ready to play then they win 3-1, if they play like they idd last game then same score other way around
Riddarn 05-02-2005, 01:52 AM Time for little brother to grow up. Denmark wins, 4-3. Last goal by Jesper Damgaard, a slapper from the red line, hitting Lundqvist in the mask before falling down behind him and in goal..
:p:
wassup77 05-02-2005, 02:00 AM Time for little brother to grow up. Denmark wins, 4-3. Last goal by Jesper Damgaard, a slapper from the red line, hitting Lundqvist in the mask before falling down behind him and in goal..
:p:
if that happened...i think even the swedish team whould laugh :biglaugh:
Berkut 05-02-2005, 02:07 AM Time for little brother to grow up. Denmark wins, 4-3. Last goal by Jesper Damgaard, a slapper from the red line, hitting Lundqvist in the mask before falling down behind him and in goal..
:p:
That would be funny :biglaugh:
Predatore 05-02-2005, 02:13 AM 3-0 Sweden.
Looking forward to see the Danish youngsters... Frans Nielen, Peter Regin and Jannik Hansen.
VanIslander 05-02-2005, 02:17 AM Looking forward to see the Danish youngsters... Frans Nielen, Peter Regin and Jannik Hansen.
You keep mentioning them but only Hansen impressed me in the first game.
Plus a guy you don't ever mention, the team's hot player in the first game: Kasper Degn.
Prediction: 5-1 Sweden
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:00 AM My prediction:
1-0 Kronwall
2-0 Zetterberg
3-0 Kahnberg
4-0 Alfredsson
4-1 Regin
Shack 05-02-2005, 03:18 AM Sweden 3, Denmark 1.
Daniel Alfredsson 3+0.
Denmark played well against Finland. Easy game for Swedish team coz they have their tournament opener behind.
If Hirch is playing as well as he did against Finland I think Denmark has possibility for a draw.
My bet 6-0. Is Lundqvist even in the net? (I hope so...)
Sedin needs to step up their game. Wouldn't worry about changing the lines yet though. Keep this team together untill after the game against the finns. If they doesn't step up their game, and I am not so sure that they will I want both of them out of the lineup, fast... :shakehead
Hedström-Z-Weinhandl
Alfie-Påhlsson-Samuelsson
Nordström-Jönsson-Kahnberg
Höglund-Franzen-pebben //not a bad line and would defenitly perform better then what the Sedins can if they have the same attitude they had last night...
Predatore 05-02-2005, 05:44 AM You keep mentioning them but only Hansen impressed me in the first game.
Plus a guy you don't ever mention, the team's hot player in the first game: Kasper Degn.
1) When have I ever mentioned those three before?
2) Why would I mention a player that I don't look forward to seeing?
VanIslander 05-02-2005, 06:07 AM 1) When have I ever mentioned those three before?
Maybe its just a coincidence someone else did twice, those exact three. Maybe you all read the same scouting report.
2) Why would I mention a player that I don't look forward to seeing?
Um, maybe you would because Degn was one of the best players on the ice in the first game of the tourney. Why wouldn't you look forward to seeing more of him in the second game? (unless you didn't see the first game)
Predatore 05-02-2005, 06:44 AM Maybe its just a coincidence someone else did twice, those exact three. Maybe you all read the same scouting report.
What scouting report? It is pretty easy to follow these prospects when you live in Sweden and a couple of them play hockey here / or will play here.
Um, maybe you would because Degn was one of the best players on the ice in the first game of the tourney.
Why do you assume that I want to watch a specific player? If I mention three players, all of them prospects, that I look forward seeing to play throughout the tournament, why do you then mention another guy? If I was looking forward to seeing a 23-year old undersized forward, although one of the top players on the Danish team, I would have mentioned it. You are acting very weird. I have seen 80-90% of the Danish players several times before, many of them live, and I think I know what/who I want to see.
Seiza 05-02-2005, 07:17 AM Not sure I should start predicting the games, they always seem to end up the other way around when I do. But I'll do it anyway and then you guys can blame me if we lose. ;)
Sweden will win this game 3-2 as well.
Jönsson, Kahnberg, Rhodin
Damgaard, Green
ALF AmericanLionsFan 05-02-2005, 08:24 AM I see a 4 - 0 Swedish shutout.
Bubba64 05-02-2005, 08:28 AM Who will get the start in the net? Lunquist??? :dunno:
FLYLine24 05-02-2005, 09:30 AM Who will get the start in the net? Lunquist??? :dunno:
Thats what I would like to know...
wilka91* 05-02-2005, 09:39 AM 3-0 Sweden
reaper 05-02-2005, 12:08 PM Lundqvist will be goalie, Per-Johan pebben Axelsson is back in the team in the frölunda-line which is great news. Magnus Kahnberg has taken Jonas Höglunds place in the fbk-line. Seems BÅG is listening to us for once :) Score will be 4-1 to Sweden.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 12:11 PM Lundqvist will be goalie, Per-Johan pebben Axelsson is back in the team in the frölunda-line which is great news. Magnus Kahnberg has taken Jonas Höglunds place in the fbk-line. Seems BÅG is listening to us for once :) Score will be 4-1 to Sweden.
He had already replaced Höglunds place before the Ukraine game...Höglund replaced Pebben in the Frölunda-line.
Subway Schenn 05-02-2005, 12:35 PM Game is on TSN. To the Canadians that have never seen Lundqvist in action before: Watch a superstar in the making this afternoon.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 12:45 PM rofl
great, now lundqvist IS going to get overhyped and if he falters a little or doesn't look amazing, people are gonna start complaining that he's no good ;)
I think it's great that he gets recognition for the amazing season(s) he's had, and think he should be considered a top goalie prospect for the NHL...but it makes me nervous when people start going a little overboard with him. especially with sweden's defensively challenged team this year
ALF AmericanLionsFan 05-02-2005, 12:48 PM What time does this game start?
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 12:52 PM What time does this game start?
1h 23min
Habsfan 32 05-02-2005, 12:56 PM I say 4-1 for Sweden. Lundqvist will be solid.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 12:58 PM rofl
great, now lundqvist IS going to get overhyped and if he falters a little or doesn't look amazing, people are gonna start complaining that he's no good ;)
I think it's great that he gets recognition for the amazing season(s) he's had, and think he should be considered a top goalie prospect for the NHL...but it makes me nervous when people start going a little overboard with him. especially with sweden's defensively challenged team this year
Yeah, he gets a lot of pressure from his fans. I don't think we'll see him shining too much in this game. Because he'll not have anything to do :p:
Vikke 05-02-2005, 01:00 PM Maybe its just a coincidence someone else did twice, those exact three. Maybe you all read the same scouting report.
Um, maybe you would because Degn was one of the best players on the ice in the first game of the tourney. Why wouldn't you look forward to seeing more of him in the second game? (unless you didn't see the first game)
I know I mentioned Regin and Hansen, in the previous Denmark game-thread. :)
SChan* 05-02-2005, 01:37 PM rofl
great, now lundqvist IS going to get overhyped and if he falters a little or doesn't look amazing, people are gonna start complaining that he's no good ;)
I think it's great that he gets recognition for the amazing season(s) he's had, and think he should be considered a top goalie prospect for the NHL...but it makes me nervous when people start going a little overboard with him. especially with sweden's defensively challenged team this year
oh please our defense is very week. I know atleast 8 dmen that didn't participate on our team.
mattihp 05-02-2005, 01:43 PM 2-1
Sweden has a better goalie, but not as balanced scoring as team Finland, so I think it should be somewhere around the same score.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 01:54 PM oh please our defense is very week. I know atleast 8 dmen that didn't participate on our team.
umm, i think that's what i was saying (if I understand you correctly)
Sweden's defense seems weak this year, and reports from their first game seem to confirm that.
Engineer 05-02-2005, 02:17 PM It'll be a heavy defeat for Denmark, I think. 5-1 probably.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 02:24 PM It'll be a heavy for defeat for Denmark, I think. 5-1 probably.
They seem stronger than Ukraine did from start. And they play hockey. Ukraine just tried to get as many penalties as possible.
I think it'll be pretty even game.
Engineer 05-02-2005, 02:27 PM They seem stronger than Ukraine did from start. And they play hockey. Ukraine just tried to get as many penalties as possible.
I think it'll be pretty even game.
9 shots for Sweden after 5½ minutes? Mostly quality shots?
Hirsch better have a good game...
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:29 PM Mats is the man :)
I like Sweden
but Denmark is where my heart lies
lol ;)
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:32 PM Henrik Sedin from Mats Sundin
p.s. Sweden 4, Denmark 2
wassup77 05-02-2005, 02:33 PM nice done by the Sedin-line. I hope they keep playing like this.
Engineer 05-02-2005, 02:33 PM Henrik Sedin from Mats Sundin
p.s. Sweden 4, Denmark 2
Sorry buddy, that's Ronnie Sundin. No Mats in this tourney. And btw, wasn't it Danny Sedin who scored?
wassup77 05-02-2005, 02:37 PM Sorry buddy, that's Ronnie Sundin. No Mats in this tourney. And btw, wasn't it Danny Sedin who scored?
yes it was Daniel...Henrik missed his open-netter the moment before the goal.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 02:40 PM 2-0 Pj
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:40 PM eeeerr
that was a quick prediction, now I can't see how the Danes can score two goals. or a goal for that matter.
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:42 PM Hey, no problem, dude. I was just fixing myself a bite to eat, and was listening to the TV feed, so when I heard Sundin, being a Maple Leaf fan I automatically assumed it was good old Mats. But then, I recall some rumors that might explain why he isn't playing. Who's the C for Team Sweden this year ?
Sorry buddy, that's Ronnie Sundin. No Mats in this tourney. And btw, wasn't it Danny Sedin who scored?
Levitate 05-02-2005, 02:43 PM not much work for lundqvist yet eh...which isn't always a good thing
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 02:47 PM Who's the C for Team Sweden this year ? Jörgen Jönsson
FiNsKa 05-02-2005, 02:49 PM 2-0 Pj
You got a bigger version of that avatar?! :D
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 02:51 PM You got a bigger version of that avatar?! :D
Yes...
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:51 PM pp for Denmark
FiNsKa 05-02-2005, 02:52 PM Yes...
:sarcasm:
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:54 PM thanks!
Jörgen Jönsson
Levitate 05-02-2005, 02:56 PM 4 whole shots by denmark...ouch
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 02:58 PM a couple from the blue line...
4 whole shots by denmark...ouch
Riddarn 05-02-2005, 03:08 PM Defensive breakdown and general laziness to be expected from the Swedes in the 2nd. Why, its a tradition! :sarcasm:
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 03:09 PM lol ;)
Defensive breakdown and general laziness to be expected from the Swedes in the 2nd. Why, its a tradition! :sarcasm:
Engineer 05-02-2005, 03:20 PM 'As soon as we try to establish some sort of forecheck, the Swedes mount a soloraid - goal. The trap is life.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 03:20 PM 3-0 D. Sedin :eek:
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:20 PM 2nd goal by Daniel Sedin... 3-0
reaper 05-02-2005, 03:22 PM Sweden is dominating, feeling good :) Hopefully they will keep the pace up the whole game.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 03:23 PM Sweden is dominating, feeling good Hopefully they will keep the pace up the whole game.
which worries me...makes me think they're gonna sit back in the third and give up a ton of good scoring chances
Levitate 05-02-2005, 03:26 PM someone better poke lundqvist and make sure he's still awake
Engineer 05-02-2005, 03:28 PM ½way through the game, 30 shots on Hirsch so far. Not much he could do on the three goals, I think.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 03:31 PM ½way through the game, 30 shots on Hirsch so far. Not much he could do on the three goals, I think.
and *drumroll* 5 shots on lundqvist so far :(
i swear, then 1 shot is gonna go in and he's gonna have a horrible save % :D
reaper 05-02-2005, 03:33 PM SUPERnice goal by Daniel Alfie Alfredsson! :handclap: :handclap: :bow: :bow:
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 03:34 PM 4-0, very nice breakaway goal by Alfie
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:41 PM I have to say it...
Damn it feels good without Böglund on the team!
reaper 05-02-2005, 03:43 PM 5-0. Magnus Kahnberg. Laughing my ass off at Wikegårds commentary. Don't know what Hirsch is doing, trying some division 3 sliding. HAHA :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 03:43 PM edit. nevermind
Levitate 05-02-2005, 03:44 PM is sweden just playing that good or is denmark just playing that bad?
i mean i know denmark isn't exactly one of the top tier teams ;) but still...
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 03:44 PM 5-0. Magnus Kahnberg. Laughing my ass off at Wikegårds commentary. Don't know what Hirsch is doing, trying some division 3 sliding. HAHA :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Wikegård is doing a great job, hope they keep him their for all of Swedens games.
reaper 05-02-2005, 03:45 PM Denmark is trying all they got. Haven't seen Sweden playing this good against blueberrys in a very very long time. Perfect match by Sweden so far.
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 03:45 PM 5-0. Magnus Kahnberg. Laughing my ass off at Wikegårds commentary. Don't know what Hirsch is doing, trying some division 3 sliding. HAHA :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Agree!
Levitate 05-02-2005, 03:47 PM ohh denmark got in 2 more shots before the period ended!
I hope Sweden keeps it up, good job so far :handclap:
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 03:47 PM I don't know why the Zetterberg-line doesn't produce... Zäta's making great plays, but the goals just doesn't happen.
colonel_korn 05-02-2005, 03:47 PM is sweden just playing that good or is denmark just playing that bad?
i mean i know denmark isn't exactly one of the top tier teams ;) but still...
Denmark's skaters are not playing very well at all, they look really slow. Hirsch has actually played pretty well for them in net though (for the most part), Sweden could easily be up 6 or 7 by now.
Predatore 05-02-2005, 03:47 PM that was a perfectly executed period by Sweden. Bäckman and Kronwall look like future stars, I must say, and Alfie and Samuelsson have looked especially good among forwards IMO. The Sedins are having a much better game today as well.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:49 PM Wikegård is doing a great job, hope they keep him their for all of Swedens games.
I agree, Wikegård is one of the best expert-commentators I've heard.
The bad thing with him though is that he can turn into a coach sometimes and shout "gå, gå, gå!", "komigen då!" and stuff like that.
The True Blue Crew 05-02-2005, 03:50 PM I'm sorry to see the Danes icing the puck at first opportunity they touch the puck.
It was good to see the Danes trying to create something.
oh well
Riddarn 05-02-2005, 03:50 PM I don't know why the Zetterberg-line doesn't produce... Zäta's making great plays, but the goals just doesn't happen.
I was thinking the same thing. Weinhandl does look weak and Hedström doesn't seem to be his usual self. Zetterberg is good as always, though when he gets outmuscled by the danish defenders you start wondering if this is really the best centerman we've got..
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 03:51 PM that was a perfectly executed period by Sweden. Bäckman and Kronwall look like future stars, I must say, and Alfie and Samuelsson have looked especially good among forwards IMO. The Sedins are having a much better game today as well.
The twins are still looking a little slow, but they're playing much better.
And Niklas Kronwall, he is really good. He is doing great passes on and on, and is a real offensive threat.
BTW, I think we should land to other PP formations:
Kronwall - Alfredsson - Hedström - Zetterberg - Kahnberg
Bäckman - Rhodin - D Sedin - H Sedin - Weinhandl
Riddarn 05-02-2005, 03:53 PM that was a perfectly executed period by Sweden. Bäckman and Kronwall look like future stars, I must say
Kronwall has such a great first pass, and he can almost skate like Paul Coffey which also helps a bit ;)
Predatore 05-02-2005, 03:55 PM Kronwall has such a great first pass, and he can almost skate like Paul Coffey which also helps a bit ;)
Yup, it seems to me that he has really become a superb skater. He was good before, but he is looking extremely fast out there now IMO. I think he has 3 assists so far in the game.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 03:55 PM I was thinking the same thing. Weinhandl does look weak and Hedström doesn't seem to be his usual self. Zetterberg is good as always, though when he gets outmuscled by the danish defenders you start wondering if this is really the best centerman we've got..
Zetterberg - Franzen - Weinhandl :dunno:
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 03:55 PM I agree, Wikegård is one of the best expert-commentators I've heard.
The bad thing with him though is that he can turn into a coach sometimes and shout "gå, gå, gå!", "komigen då!" and stuff like that.
I must say I prefer Lasse Granqvist and Lars-Gunnar Jansson on P4, and SR have syncronized (?) the sending with the TV pictures so it's perfect. AND they continue to talk during the commercial breaks, which is a relief.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:56 PM You gotta give Kronwall credit for this game. The star of the game in my eyes.
Riddarn 05-02-2005, 03:56 PM Zetterberg - Franzen - Weinhandl :dunno:
Zetterberg - Franzén - Kahnberg.
Put Weinis with #21 and #19
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 03:57 PM Zetterberg - Franzen - Weinhandl :dunno:
Yeah, I'd like to see Franzén get a chance to play early in the tournament. Isn't he close to 100kg or something? Is he physical? I never got to see Linköping play this past season.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:57 PM Zetterberg - Franzen - Weinhandl :dunno:
hey...thats not bad...thats freaking great sugguestion! call BÅG right away :handclap:
wassup77 05-02-2005, 03:59 PM Zetterberg - Franzén - Kahnberg.
Put Weinis with #21 and #19
There is no Peter Forsberg in the team! I think you mean #72 :biglaugh:
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 03:59 PM Zetterberg - Franzén - Kahnberg.
Put Weinis with #21 and #19
Or..
Kahnberg - Zetterberg - Samuelsson
D Sedin - H Sedin - Alfredsson
Weinhandl - Jönsson - Nordström
Axelsson - Påhlsson - Hedström
Höglund, Franzen
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:00 PM Zetterberg - Franzén - Kahnberg.
Put Weinis with #21 and #19
Id rather have:
Nordström (#19) - Jönsson(#72) - Hedström(#17)
They wouldnt get much 5-5 icetime but 19-72 on PK and 17 on the PP.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:02 PM Tre kronor V 1.07
Axelsson - Påhlsson - Alfredsson
Zetterberg - Franzén - Kahnberg
Sedin - Sedin - Samuelsson
Nordström - Jönsson - Hedström
Weinhandl
Höglund
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:02 PM Wikegård is the best commentary sweden had in years.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:03 PM Höglund is back :loony:
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:03 PM Höglund in instead of Weinhandel...
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:03 PM nooooooooooooooooo höglund is in instead of Weinhandl :dunno:
this man have 9 lives and is the worst swedish player to play for our country last few years.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 04:05 PM oh noes, Böglund on the ice...oh well...we can't lose this anyway
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:06 PM oh noes, Böglund on the ice...oh well...we can't lose this anyway
Isn't there a danish football-player named Böglund?
wassup77 05-02-2005, 04:09 PM Isn't there a danish football-player named Böglund?
I hope not, for his own sake. :biglaugh:
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:11 PM Isn't there a danish football-player named Böglund?
There is.
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:13 PM 6-0. Jonatan Hedström :)
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:13 PM I don't know why the Zetterberg-line doesn't produce... Zäta's making great plays, but the goals just doesn't happen.
Finally! Goal by Hedström
wassup77 05-02-2005, 04:17 PM Finally! Goal by Hedström
and believe it or not...Höglund did something good for a change :p:
FLYLine24 05-02-2005, 04:18 PM I think Denmark has 12 or 13 shots on goal total now.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:19 PM Isn't there a danish football-player named Böglund?
http://www.dbu.dk/lbase/playerInfo.aspx?playerid=4251
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:19 PM I think Denmark has 12 or 13 shots on goal total now.
well it's not these games that Lundqvist should shine :)
nuckfan in TO 05-02-2005, 04:21 PM looks like the Sedins, especially Daniel, has really been improving his game over this lockout year... both seem to have taken another step in their development.
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:23 PM Did Kronwall just take down two danes at once?
Levitate 05-02-2005, 04:24 PM according to the livestats thing I'm looking at, Denmark has 9 shots on goal
FLYLine24 05-02-2005, 04:26 PM according to the livestats thing I'm looking at, Denmark has 9 shots on goal
Oops, wasnt aware that live stats thing was updating the shots durning the period..when I was watching that during the SEL finals they would only updated the shots at the end of the period. So it is 9.
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:26 PM Yes. Kronwall took two danes down with one tackle. Kronwall is playing great, and Bäckman also.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 04:27 PM and sweden has 49 SOG
yikes
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:29 PM 7-0 Henrik Sedin :)
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:30 PM Why doesn´t he shot like that more often :dunno:
7-0 H.Sedin
FLYLine24 05-02-2005, 04:32 PM Lundqvist actually had to save a good low shot. :handclap:
Jokerit Wasp 05-02-2005, 04:32 PM If Henke can play big in the important games...Sweden could win this tourny.
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:32 PM Lundqvist did 2 quick saves in a row.
Engineer 05-02-2005, 04:32 PM http://www.dbu.dk/lbase/playerInfo.aspx?playerid=4251
No need for cheap shots, dude.
Levitate 05-02-2005, 04:33 PM these games can be pretty hard on a goalie...not much action. good to see (err, hear...err, read) that he was still sharp enough to make 2 quick saves
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:33 PM It's a wrap!
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:34 PM Lundqvist with the shutout. That's good for him. He was very disappointed to yield 2 goals against Ukraine. He was angry.
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:34 PM Great match by Sweden, hope they can play as good against Finland which will be a very tough opponent.
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:35 PM I wish we had another goalscorer like Huselius though
Levitate 05-02-2005, 04:35 PM sounds like sweden played a great game...I hope they keep it up against the tougher teams
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:36 PM No need for cheap shots, dude.
He asked, I just answered.
Vanheden 05-02-2005, 04:36 PM I wish we had another goalscorer like Huselius though
He scored one time too many, unfortunatley
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:37 PM Huselius is great but I think he lacks some in motivation to work for the team and such skills. Compare to Daniel Alfredsson who probably has top 3 best shot in the world, solid in physical play and always gives 100% for the team.
FLYLine24 05-02-2005, 04:38 PM Cant wait till Wednesdays game...a real challenge for Sweden/Lundqvist.
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:39 PM He scored one time too many, unfortunatley
HAHAHA :biglaugh: :biglaugh: That was very funny although the situation was not :(
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 04:39 PM Hopefully no serious injury on Weinhandl, it was a "lårkaka". He'll probably be back vs Finland.
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:40 PM He scored one time too many, unfortunatley
that was overblown. we would need a player like him.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:40 PM "lårkaka" = Bruised thigh.
SChan* 05-02-2005, 04:41 PM Cant wait till Wednesdays game...a real challenge for Sweden/Lundqvist.
that is true. Finland is very good against sweden.
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 04:42 PM = Bruised thigh.
Thanks for that.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 04:49 PM Thanks for that.
Just so you know i wasnt trying to "correct" you or something like that, i just translated for our english reading friends.
Robertsson 4-ever 05-02-2005, 04:51 PM Just so you know i wasnt trying to "correct" you or something like that, i just translated for our english reading friends.
No problems, I just seem to forget what it is in english.
reaper 05-02-2005, 04:54 PM What do you guys think about playing with 6 defenders? Seemed to be working very well today but maybe too tough against better teams.
Art Vandelay 05-02-2005, 05:02 PM What do you guys think about playing with 6 defenders? Seemed to be working very well today but maybe too tough against better teams.
Why not? I dont get the idea of playing with 7, IMO it should be three pairs when it`s 5 on 5. and maybe a PK specialist.
SwisshockeyAcademy 05-02-2005, 05:28 PM Sweden really executed all facets of their game really well. Denmark were horrible. They had very negative tactics from the outset, they showed no poise on the puck and very little in the way of guts, refusing to pay the price in any situation. They deserved a 15-0 beating for their very negative tactics. If this is how they are going to play i would prefer to see them play that type of game in Div1. They played a far better game against Canada two years ago and could have defeated them that day. Hardly any of their players could hold the puck enough to make a decent pass. Awful display.
banana phone 05-02-2005, 06:49 PM To the Swedes....how did my boys look out there (Henrik and Daniel). Seemed to pot a few goals..how was their play overall?
19 for president 05-02-2005, 06:51 PM Also to the Swedes, seems like you guys were raving about Kronwalls play, could someone give me and overview of his and Zs first 2 games. Also is the Franzen u guys keep talking about the Wings prospect, if so could you discuss him a bit as well thanks.
wassup77 05-02-2005, 07:34 PM To the Swedes....how did my boys look out there (Henrik and Daniel). Seemed to pot a few goals..how was their play overall?
IMO...you should be very proud of your boys. For the first time ever I saw Daniel and Henrik going infront of the net, blocking the goalie and steering shots and actually trying to score goals. I guess they've finally found a winger who works well with them (Mikael Samuelsson). They didn't fool arround in the corners like they usually do.
Also to the Swedes, seems like you guys were raving about Kronwalls play, could someone give me and overview of his and Zs first 2 games. Also is the Franzen u guys keep talking about the Wings prospect, if so could you discuss him a bit as well thanks.
Kronwall is the best defenceman Sweden have in this tournament. He gave Daniel Alfredsson and Magnus Kahnberg amazing breakaway passes wich resulted in 2 goals. His defensive work was enormous. You just have to see it to understand how great he actually was. I'm not sure he was as good in the first game though.
Zetterberg was great in both games. He is always great so no big surprise I guess? He got the MVP in the first game.
Thats my opinion, I don't know if others agree with me.
Franzén is a wings prospect and he is a big and strong defensive center who fits very good in a checking line.
the 2nd goalie Stefan Liv is also a wings prospect btw.
banana phone 05-02-2005, 07:56 PM IMO...you should be very proud of your boys. For the first time ever I saw Daniel and Henrik going infront of the net, blocking the goalie and steering shots and actually trying to score goals. I guess they've finally found a winger who works well with them (Mikael Samuelsson). They didn't fool arround in the corners like they usually do.
Kronwall is the best defenceman Sweden have in this tournament. He gave Daniel Alfredsson and Magnus Kahnberg amazing breakaway passes wich resulted in 2 goals. His defensive work was enormous. You just have to see it to understand how great he actually was. I'm not sure he was as good in the first game though.
Zetterberg was great in both games. He is always great so no big surprise I guess? He got the MVP in the first game.
Thats my opinion, I don't know if others agree with me.
Franzén is a wings prospect and he is a big and strong defensive center who fits very good in a checking line.
the 2nd goalie Stefan Liv is also a wings prospect btw.Thanks for the updates! :)
19 for president 05-02-2005, 09:47 PM Yulp Liv I knew about. I had check the Swedish Roster on the official site and could not find Franzen, which is why I was wondering. The Wings desperately need a great D prospect. I liked what I saw from Kronwall when he was called up last season. I loved his ability to make the long outlet pass, but I haven't been able to see him much this season, so I was wondering what ya'll thought. Also does Z seem to be able to handle physical pressure better, or is that still his major weakness?
King'sPawn 05-02-2005, 11:23 PM Anyone notice Norstrom out there? How did he look?
Thanks!
reaper 05-03-2005, 01:14 AM Norström is great, he really uses his great physique to the max. Haven't seen many defensemen playing as effective as him using his size to take out the attackers but doing it with style so he doesn't get a lot of penaltys.
For clips of the game go to www.svt.se/sport
Senaste video = Latest video
In the menu to the right where it says senaste video choose video ishockey and you can see clips from game and interviews, in swedish though.
Robertsson 4-ever 05-03-2005, 02:14 AM Yulp Liv I knew about. I had check the Swedish Roster on the official site and could not find Franzen, which is why I was wondering. The Wings desperately need a great D prospect. I liked what I saw from Kronwall when he was called up last season. I loved his ability to make the long outlet pass, but I haven't been able to see him much this season, so I was wondering what ya'll thought. Also does Z seem to be able to handle physical pressure better, or is that still his major weakness?
Johan Franzen haven't been named to the roster yet, but probably will to the second round robin.
Z weakness is till the pysichal play, yes, but I think he has improved since his last stint in Sweden. He is by now means a pysichal player, he seldom delivers a hit, but his smartness helps him out with pysichal play. But that's the big, and major, reason Z won't become as good as Forsberg. But that's my opinion.
Robertsson 4-ever 05-03-2005, 02:16 AM Why not? I dont get the idea of playing with 7, IMO it should be three pairs when it`s 5 on 5. and maybe a PK specialist.
Agreed... and as it looks now I'd like those pairs:
Bäckman - Jönsson
Johansson - Sundin
Norström - Kronwall
Out: Rhodin... makes strange plays now and then, gets burned when trying to transport the puck. His only good aspect is his shot, but I would rather see Kronwall being used at the point.
Riddarn 05-03-2005, 02:50 AM Agreed... and as it looks now I'd like those pairs:
Bäckman - Jönsson
Johansson - Sundin
Norström - Kronwall
That Johansson - Sundin pair just makes me quiver. Sundin looks far from confident out there and I just wait to see the Canadians or the US putting some pressure on that pair. Unfortunatly putting Rhodin in there won't improve anything, and using Lindström means sacrificing skill, but maybe that will be necessary.
Out: Rhodin... makes strange plays now and then, gets burned when trying to transport the puck. His only good aspect is his shot, but I would rather see Kronwall being used at the point.
Kronwall should definitly be used more on the PP. Did he even get a shot at it against denmark? I didn't see him.
Robertsson 4-ever 05-03-2005, 03:30 AM Kronwall should definitly be used more on the PP. Did he even get a shot at it against denmark? I didn't see him.
We didn't have so much PP time but Rhodin-Jönsson and Bäckman-Kronwall seems to be our PP pairings. But as I said, I'd like to see Alfredsson on the point, and thorw in Kahnberg and Weinhandl on the PP as well.
Rhodin/Johansson - Alfredsson - Kahnberg - Zetterberg - Hedström
Kronwall - Bäckman - D Sedin - H Sedin - Weinhandl
Riddarn 05-03-2005, 03:36 AM We didn't have so much PP time but Rhodin-Jönsson and Bäckman-Kronwall seems to be our PP pairings.
I think I saw Bäckman with Rhodin or Johansson for the PP's. I agree about Alfie on the PP. He plays the point in Ottawa and there are few as good as he in that position.
A quick thought; Seems almost weird that we've got almost a third of the team full of right-shooting players. I tell you this team lacks only two things really and that is a clear cut 1st line center and a 18-19 year old super talent.
Seiza 05-03-2005, 03:49 AM Thoughts about the game:
-The Sedins improved their game, but I still feel like Samuelsson is carrying that line. He makes things happen. Much more straight forward than the Sedins.
-Kronwall and Bäckman are world class.
-Nice to see Lundqvist with a shutout.
-Höglund needs to go, replace him with Franzén.
-Great to see Kahnberg scoring, we need him later on.
-The Z-line isn't working, something might have to be done there. Weinhandl out, Franzén in?
wassup77 05-03-2005, 06:30 AM Thoughts about the game:
-The Sedins improved their game, but I still feel like Samuelsson is carrying that line. He makes things happen. Much more straight forward than the Sedins.
-Kronwall and Bäckman are world class.
-Nice to see Lundqvist with a shutout.
-Höglund needs to go, replace him with Franzén.
-Great to see Kahnberg scoring, we need him later on.
-The Z-line isn't working, something might have to be done there. Weinhandl out, Franzén in?
No no...Hedström out Franzén in. IMO Hedström is not looking focused enough. Zetterberg on the left wing where he should be, Franzén centers and Weinhandl can start scoring some goals I think.
Seiza 05-03-2005, 06:53 AM No no...Hedström out Franzén in. IMO Hedström is not looking focused enough. Zetterberg on the left wing where he should be, Franzén centers and Weinhandl can start scoring some goals I think.
That would work fine with me, never been a big Hedström fan anyway. Just thought that Weinhandl's injury could stop him the next game.
BÅG will probably not make any changes on the lineup prior to the game against Finland. One change could whoever be moving Pebben to the Sedin line and Samuelsson to Alfies line. Alfies line looked great last night but I am a bit worried they won't be able to establish any pressure against the better teams. Pebben could contribute to the Sedin line in the same manner Samuelsson does. I feel that Samuelssons sniper skills are a bit wasted playing with the Sedins when they play like they have done lately.
That Johansson - Sundin pair just makes me quiver. Sundin looks far from confident out there and I just wait to see the Canadians or the US putting some pressure on that pair. Unfortunatly putting Rhodin in there won't improve anything, and using Lindström means sacrificing skill, but maybe that will be necessary.
Agrees about Sundin-Johansson. Whats up with Ronnie? He plays like a poorman's 40 y/o Peter Andersson. Trys to make fancy plays and no checks at all. He have had a long season and is getting older but one have to wonder if he will be able to turn on his game when the gooing get tough...
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