Sharks vs Coyotes in Portland Game Report

gruntsplatter
09-24-2003, 09:54 PM
Just got home from the game... my notes are largely illegible, because the guy sitting to my left was HUGE, and I'm a lefty so my writing was impeded by his mighty girth... Nice guy though :)

The game was treated as a Sharks home game, all of the jumbotron stuff was SJ related with some Marleau and Nabby specific Highlight reels, as well as a couple general ones. All of the graphics were Sharks graphics, Sharkie was their camping it up, and so on. There were actually a lot of Shark jerseys in the crowd and they were definitely the favorites of the people there and the turn out seemed pretty solid.

Where to start... Guys that dressed...
Carkner, Cheechoo, Clowe, Davison, Dimitrakos, Disalvatore, Erhoff, Ekman, Goc, Hannan, Harvey, Loyns, McCauley, Nabakov, Parker, Preissing, Rathje, Smith, Vallette

General impressions, the Coyotes seemed noticeably bigger as a team than the Sharks did. It was a tenacious, physical game from both teams, there was a copious amount of fights and scrums with half the guys on the ice all crowding in on each other, to the point where it was almost getting silly. There were also a lot of penalties in general and particularly as a result of that kind of stuff.

Parker got a double minor for roughing 25 seconds into the first period, actually a little surprised it wasn’t called a fight. Davison, was tough throughout, and stuck up for a couple different guys that got really drilled, Dimitrakos was one, and Loyns or Smith may have been the other, both got drilled, I just can’t recall which one it was at that time. That said though, the Sharks were hitting and being aggressive as well, I just think in many of the instances they were outsized. Simpson for the Coyotes was particularly aggressive and I saw the Yotes guys do a few things that were borderline shady.

The line combinations were difficult to keep track of because they were changing and there were so many damn penalties that it was difficult to tell what was intended and what was making die. Harvey/Smith/Parker was a pretty consistent one though. DiSalvatorre/McCauley/Loyns was another I wrote down, but that was less consistent.

The PK looked really good, and Davison was really strong in front of the net. Him and Erhoff both were both really strong in general with positioning etc. Davison was clearly much more physical as is to be expected. Hannan was pretty aggressive offensively and his skating looked really good as well as his speed. Rat was Rat. Preissing seemed pretty good as well, bnut didn’t quite stand out the way that Davison and Erhoff did. Carkner didn’t seem to get a lot of minutes, and went to the box a couple times, at least once for a fight.

As far as the forwards go, Cheechoo played a great game, and his goal was a beautiful thing. McCauley set him up with a gorgeous cross ice pass entering the zine. The kind of pass you know is going to lead to something good. Cheech goes down the right side and cuts in front of the net through traffic and lifts a perfect backhander past Shawn Burke. It was a goal scorer goal. Yep Burke was in net for the whole game. Harvey was playing like Harvey should play, he was feisty and aggressive all night, and kicked off the scoring. Him and Smith both played a really agitating game and were among the standouts all night. Parker seemed good with his defensive positioning as well. Loyns was crashing the net and pissing people off. He got his helmet torn off on one play crashing the net and the Yotes player threw it back at him directly in his face… Then Davison started shoving the guy around etc. McCauley was pretty visible as well, and made some nice plays. Dimitrakos wasn’t obvious for a lot of the evening, but his was a nice goal that showed really good awareness. Goc and Ekman really didn’t stand out much. DiSalvatorre and to a lesser extent Clowe were in the action and getting involved, but not a lot specifically came from it.

Nabakov, yes he got the shut out, but Nabby looked GREAT, his positioning was awesome, he was seeing stuff in traffic, and he was aggressive on the puck. He played a really outstanding game, it was really encouraging to see him seeing things so well so early. Toskala was dressed as the back up.

Hannan, Rathje and McCauley wore the A, but McCauley clearly acted like the Captain dealing with the Officials and so on because so many of the fights were pile ups it took time sorting out who was getting what and he was always the one seeing what the deal was.

I tried to take it all in because I knew there would be questions from everyone about everyone, so I hope I have answered anything, if not ask and I’ll see what I can come up with. The main things I came away with, Cheechoo has picked up his game, Harvey seems back to form, the young D we keep talking about deserve to be talked about. The defensive positioning was pretty good throughout, and the PK looked strong. Nabby looked great… I hope Loyns gets some big league time because I love watching him. There was passion and guys sticking up for and watching out for each other. It was an encouraging game, especially since a majority of our veterans weren’t playing, and Phoenix had guys like Lankow, Ference, Nagy, Doan, Nazarov out there and Burke in net.

Ok that’s it… Nabby looked great.

gruntsplatter
09-24-2003, 09:57 PM
one last note I have seen the Sharks 3 times now and each time they have gotten a shut out :)

ModestoFan
09-24-2003, 10:38 PM
I was reading around the net, and many articles (see tsn.ca; nhl.com; sportsnet.ca) that some serious defensive lapses led to prime scoring.
In one case, Nagy(i think) was all alone 15 ft out. Did you notice any breakdowns coming back into the zone, or moving out of the zone, or were these isolated incidents?

Love to hear it...

gruntsplatter
09-24-2003, 11:51 PM
There were a couple of "oh crap" moments when Phoenix was on the attack, but as a whole I thought the defensive awareness and positioning was pretty solid, those things were more a result of someone getting taken out of a play by a check or something than blatantly screwing up.

Grizzly Adams
09-25-2003, 12:08 AM
First off, great report gruntsplatter :bow:

And I'm just curious, has Stuart been seen in any preseason games yet?

Thanks.

gruntsplatter
09-25-2003, 12:20 AM
Thanks! I knew you guys would want details. I went with a couple of friends who aren't really into hockey and I had my list of names to nail down the new guys and a pen writing notes and I think they thought I was a big dork...

Thinking about it The Sharks started a little slow, the first half of the first period kinda felt like they weren't attacking as much as I would have liked, but they whethered it and for the most part let Nabby see any shots that came. This was also when it seemed like they were getting the most worked over physically. But they whethered it and on the couple of occasions later in the game where it got heated around the crease, Nabakov was stellar. and the one that did slip by there was a d-man there to clear the crease. The Coyotes also had a post in the third I forgot to mention that. And the place was nuts for Valette, that was cool to see, he spent the last 3 years with the Portland Winterhawks and they seemed ot love him.

_Del_
09-25-2003, 03:35 AM
Thanks! I knew you guys would want details. I went with a couple of friends who aren't really into hockey and I had my list of names to nail down the new guys and a pen writing notes and I think they thought I was a big dork...

Thinking about it The Sharks started a little slow, the first half of the first period kinda felt like they weren't attacking as much as I would have liked, but they whethered it and for the most part let Nabby see any shots that came. This was also when it seemed like they were getting the most worked over physically. But they whethered it and on the couple of occasions later in the game where it got heated around the crease, Nabakov was stellar. and the one that did slip by there was a d-man there to clear the crease. The Coyotes also had a post in the third I forgot to mention that. And the place was nuts for Valette, that was cool to see, he spent the last 3 years with the Portland Winterhawks and they seemed ot love him.

If you've got time could you spare anything you garnered from the Coyotes pov -- I realize you were probably concentrating on the Sharks players, but anything would be helpful. :) thanks...

Cyclops II*
09-25-2003, 06:14 AM
one last note I have seen the Sharks 3 times now and each time they have gotten a shut out :)

Thanks for the report. You seem to be good luck for the Sharks. :) You'll have to go to more games.

mage23
09-25-2003, 07:47 AM
Where to start... Guys that dressed...
Carkner, Cheechoo, Clowe, Davison, Dimitrakos, Disalvatore, Erhoff, Ekman, Goc, Hannan, Harvey, Loyns, McCauley, Nabakov, Parker, Preissing, Rathje, Smith, Vallette

First off, thanks for the great report! :)

Did you happen to note what the defensive pairings were? Was Ehrhoff playing with Rathje? Was it Rat/Ehrhoff, Hannan/Preissing, Carkner/Davison? That sorta makes sense to me... give the two more offensively minded guys a chance to play with regulars, and let the other two guys battle with each other.

General impressions, the Coyotes seemed noticeably bigger as a team than the Sharks did.

Did Gratton dress? I noticed that you said that Doan/Nazarov were out there, but Grattons definitely a big guy too... I haven't been checking the Coyotes boards... is McLeod still around in camp, and did he play?

Parker seemed good with his defensive positioning as well.

This is good to hear! Obviously, if the sharks want to use him as a 10 minute per game type of player, he'll have to be solid defensively. I thought his positioning really needed work at times in scrimmages, but I understand he's the type of guy who plays off of emotion, and you can't get that same emotion going when you're playing your own team :)

I hope he dresses Saturday at the Tanq.

McCauley was pretty visible as well, and made some nice plays.

Glad to hear that as well. As you said it was a pretty penalty ridden game, did you happen to notice what some of the PK combos were?

Hannan, Rathje and McCauley wore the A, but McCauley clearly acted like the Captain dealing with the Officials and so on because so many of the fights were pile ups it took time sorting out who was getting what and he was always the one seeing what the deal was.

Not at all surprised about Hannan and McCauley, as I expect them to be part of the rotating A's that Wilson will probably employ (assuming McCauley isn't named captain, which I don't see as that probable only because he hasn't been with the team for long.. but I could see him as a great bridge to a Stuart captaincy for a few years).

IronMosher
09-25-2003, 08:55 AM
Great report. If only Sharks.com was as good as you.

gruntsplatter
09-25-2003, 09:24 AM
Rat and Erhoff was a consistent pairing, Hannan and Davison was pretty consistent, and then Preissing and Carkner. It got mixed up a bit, but that seemed to be how it shook out for most of the game.

As far as the Coyotes, the guy that I noticed the most was Simpson (2) he was trying to start stuff all night, and was, or at least looked to be, the biggest guy playing. I did not notice Gratton, so he probably didn't play, or the other guy you mentioned. The Coyotes made some good hits, and I think initially came out better than the Sharks, but they also seemed to be the ones that instigated alot of the scrums, the discipline wasn't very good. They did fend off a Sharks 5 on 3 where the Sharks got some good shots on net, but Burke was the best guy on the PK for them as they say. I think the biggest thing I came away from was just the general size of the Coyotes players. Maybe some of it had to do with them wearing the White Jerseys, but they just seemed really big and not afraid to use it. They had some good action in front of the Sharks net, and were aggressive when they got there, but Nabakov was just playing too well. Also the new logo seemed a little small to me, like it maybe needed some kind of halo sort of design around it or something to make it a little more "bold", But I'm a designer so maybe that's just me :) I know that's probably not the details you were hoping for but I didn't have a player list for the Coyotes.

Cheechoo was on the PK pretty consistently, McCauley, I think Clowe was even out for a bit on it, because I started to right him down as part of a line combo and scratched it out because I realized they were short handed. The scoreboard didn't have all of the details you normally get at a game. And so frequently more then one guy would go to the box for something and you ended up just counting guys to figure out what was happening because the penalty announcements were a little slow coming and it wasn't on the board. Hannan did his PK time, Davison, Smith and Harvey both did some as well I think. it was somewhat eratic because of all the guys going to the box. The Sharks did get a couple of good shorthand rushes going to, and Hannan seemed to be the break out guy for those from what I recall to get it going the other way.

The rink anouncer couldn't say Dimitrakos for the life of him.

XavierX
09-25-2003, 02:30 PM
Knyazev-Wilson
Ference-Mara
Simpson-Bezina

That was our dressed D, not too impressive.

http://home.comcast.net/~cdorrell/Cleary-Taffe-Sjostrom.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~cdorrell/Nagybreakaway.JPG

Mike Johnson (Not Nagy because hes a lefty)

seemed like the yotes were sporatic, but we didnt dress any of our good 3rd and 4th line players.

VP and GM
09-25-2003, 04:50 PM
Re Ehrhoff - any one know his +/-, minutes and if played on
the PP last nite?

_Del_
09-25-2003, 08:04 PM
I know that's probably not the details you were hoping for but I didn't have a player list for the Coyotes.



Ha, when the press coverage locally is as bad as it is here, you're glad for what you can get ;) Thanks

ModestoFan
09-25-2003, 09:09 PM
many thanks for the report and the follow-up posts.

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