Canucks/Coyotes

Anyone know the projected line-up for the Canucks vs. Coyotes game?

Vets for the Canucks and Koltsov should play...I don't see how he wont play.

has Koltsov played any games yet?

Kesler and Arvedson is playing

Cloutier starting goaltender!

Geesh, I didn't see this thread so I started my own but then deleted it. :rolleyes:

'Nucks 3
'Yotes 2

Hopefully the hometown crowd will inspire the team.

'Nucks on the pp.

C'mon guys lets pot one here for the home crowd; they paid big bucks to see this. :D

Moi Jees is the pronunciation Shorty is going with tonight.

Canucks get back-to-back pp's. That's a switch.

I'll give you some company Jewelly. :p Canucks sound to be playing sloppy again, timing is still off but hopefully they'll get it back soon.

Slow night on these forums....

Slow night on these forums....

slow game ;)

come on offense, START CLICKIN!

I'll give you some company Jewelly. :p Canucks sound to be playing sloppy again, timing is still off but hopefully they'll get it back soon.Very slow and sloppy game for sure. Good thing it's the same thing for the 'Yotes or we'd be in big trouble.

Goaltender change for the 'Yotes. Bierk out Boucher in.

Oh and earlier, Cooke is sure doing his job. :D

Oh and earlier, Cooke is sure doing his job. :DCooke is good... don't trade him. :joker:

He sure is playing fiesty tonight as usual.

Aggg, this team needs to score some goals SOON!

Too many misses.

Bye bye Magnus.

Game misconduct for 'butt-ending'.

Nasty Swede.

Arvedson gets 5 and a game for butt-ending...and Phoenix scored as I was typing this.

1-0 'Yotes with quite a bit of the 5 minute penalty left.

Shorty seems to think that Cloutier should have had that goal.

i really don't get why Dan Cloutier starts tonight? i thought Auld and Moss were supposed to share the game tonight.

I guess you could say that the Canucks took it up the ass.
:lol: Good one!

Where's Koltsov?

Has he even played in these preseason games b/c I don't recall his name being called?

Where's Koltsov?

Has he even played in these preseason games b/c I don't recall his name being called?

Not yet and I don't understand why. Give the kid a shot already, it's what these games are for.

Cooke is good. Don't trade him.

Assisted by Mooogeesh.

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Where's Koltsov?

Has he even played in these preseason games b/c I don't recall his name being called?

Nope :cry: :cry: :cry:

It's not fair, he has to go through all these practices, but dosen't get to play, play him damnit, it wouldn't hurt.

Cooke is slowly getting a reputation for being money in the bank on breakaways

Cooke is slowly getting a reputation for being money in the bank on breakawaysNo kidding. Almost every time Cooke gets on a breakaway he seems to score. Was it a backhander by chance?

oh mo!

Argggg. Stoopid Mo. :mad:

2-1 Puppies.

it's pretty bad to let Nazarov score on you :D

Massenhoven gave us a penalty.... are we losing his favor? :D

Earth calling the big line. Where are you? :rolleyes:

3-1 'Yotes.

Fire-Rick-Lee!
Fire-Rick-Lee!
Fire-Rick-Lee!



oh wait, wrong season.

3-1 :rant:

should we even bother with penalty killing anymore? it'd be much quicker just to give the other team a goal

Is it me or does this seem familiar?

Canucks skate on the ice and think they can score and win by just showing up... I mean you'ld think that last season they would've learned from this very mistake!!

I mean 3 shots in the third so far?!?!?! All that needs to be said.

I think I am ready to see the real Canucks. No more prospects. Let the real team gel over the last 5 games of the preaseason.

I think I am ready to see the real Canucks. No more prospects. Let the real team gel over the last 5 games of the preaseason.Agree. This is getting tedious. Bring on the REAL team.

lol, i ask for a little patience from my fellow Canucks fans.

This is the making of a real good season...

I was told to be patient when I wondered where the Express had gone. :)

GIVE COOKE SOME PP TIME. I don't get it. He has been the best player so far.

i wonder if any of you are at the game because if that is the case i guess you guys have every right to whine and rant about the lack of effort by the Canucks. On the other hand, i am not suggesting that people who are not going to have no right to whine and express their opinioins about the team either, but i just don't think it is all that important for this team to start well since i am confidence that they have the talent to make the playoff. In fact, it might be good for this team to taste the loses during the early part of the season and become hungry for wins about later on and carry that into the playoff. i mean due to the recent hype of Canucks create by the mass media, there have been a lot of unrealistic expectation carry on by some Canucks fans. This is good that the loses will bring them down to reality.

Fire-Rick-Lee!
Fire-Rick-Lee!
Fire-Rick-Lee!



oh wait, wrong season.

3-1 :rant:
Take him back! Please!

i wonder if any of you are at the game because if that is the case i guess you guys have every right to whine and rant about the lack of effort by the Canucks. On the other hand, i am not suggesting that people who are not going to have no right to whine and express their opinioins about the team either, but i just don't think it is all that important for this team to start well since i am confidence that they have the talent to make the playoff. In fact, it might be good for this team to taste the loses during the early part of the season and become hungry for wins about later on and carry that into the playoff. i mean due to the recent hype of Canucks create by the mass media, there have not a lot of unrealistic expectation carry on by some Canucks fans. This is good that the loses will bring them down to reality.

I do not believe any of the hype or build up is "unrealistic".

Fact: This team has 2 of the best players in the league for the last 3 seasons running

Fact: This team has improved 4 straight seasons and has gotten better and better when each year I see the oposite predictions for them.

Fact: This is the best Canucks team on paper.

Fact: There really are no prospect jobs to be won. We all know what the line up is. We all know what the Defence should be. Really it is up to Slegr and Allen for the #6 spot on the D.

Fact: The goaltending is the best it's been since McLean and Whitmore.

Biggest Fact: This team should beat any team on any given night if they put in the effort. Sure they won't win 82 games. But winning 45 like last season is reasonable... maybe even just a couple more wins.

My point is, this is a team that is good, not because the media or the fans think it is good... it is because they are a great team with a legitimit shot at making a run. But unless you field the best team from day 1, and instead you try prospects that are still 1 or 2 seasons away, then you get the disinterested efforts from the veterans like Nassy and Bert.

It is time for this team to learn that they cannot just show up. That if they work hard for 80% of their games they can beat any team. Is that too much for any Canucks fan, who buys jerseys, memorabilia, invests alot of time and emotion in this team. Whether you think a person should do that, the bottom line is we all do, and I expect them to put in 100% efforts on most given nights... not all, but most.

Quick .... what was the teams record last preseason?

Don't remember? Probably because it doesn't matter.

Relax, if they show up disinterested once the season begins then maybe start to worry, but even then didn't they play .500 hockey last season in October and still manage 104 points? This team isn't perfect, but to jump on them because they are 2-3 in the preseason is way to premature. Nobody wins anything in Sept, just like the don't in July when everyone was criticizing the team for not signing UFA's.

It's a long season.

I do not believe any of the hype or build up is "unrealistic".

Fact: This team has 2 of the best players in the league for the last 3 seasons running

Fact: This team has improved 4 straight seasons and has gotten better and better when each year I see the oposite predictions for them.

Fact: This is the best Canucks team on paper.

Fact: There really are no prospect jobs to be won. We all know what the line up is. We all know what the Defence should be. Really it is up to Slegr and Allen for the #6 spot on the D.

Fact: The goaltending is the best it's been since McLean and Whitmore.

Biggest Fact: This team should beat any team on any given night if they put in the effort. Sure they won't win 82 games. But winning 45 like last season is reasonable... maybe even just a couple more wins.

My point is, this is a team that is good, not because the media or the fans think it is good... it is because they are a great team with a legitimit shot at making a run. But unless you field the best team from day 1, and instead you try prospects that are still 1 or 2 seasons away, then you get the disinterested efforts from the veterans like Nassy and Bert.

It is time for this team to learn that they cannot just show up. That if they work hard for 80% of their games they can beat any team. Is that too much for any Canucks fan, who buys jerseys, memorabilia, invests alot of time and emotion in this team. Whether you think a person should do that, the bottom line is we all do, and I expect them to put in 100% efforts on most given nights... not all, but most.


You know what maybe what you say are facts, but 10 other teams in the NHL can come up with a similar facts about the certain aspects of the team is improving, some of the top players in the league and how the addition of in the summer will make tremendous impact. i am not suggesting that the posters in the board are overhyping the team, but the local media is certainly doing that heck if you are one of the people that like to enjoy the Canucks while the team is good, that is positive, i mean that is what being a fan is all about. However, you need to be there when the team is down as well, not suggesting you are not of course. The point is i don't see the big deal of losing in the pre-season, i remember couple seasons ago where Toronto won all 10 of their pre-season, guess what they still have not won a CUP since the 60s. On the other hand, while everyone was underrating the Devils, Tampa and Anaheim and Minnisota, they were too busy not worrying about losing in the pre-season and test out different combination and rookie propsects. And it is some of those propsects that they tested out in the pre-season that made some impressive impact in the playoff. Micheal Rupp is the prime example of that.

Rant about a pre-season loss all you want, i am positive that this team will have the ability to make the playoff and make an impact this season. If superstars and other veterans think they need to not waste any energy in the pre-season and pace themselves throughout the season, so be it. It certainly not the first time that happened. Yzerman, Roy and Scott Steven have been doing that for years, their Stanley Cup records speak for themselves.

Quick .... what was the teams record last preseason?

Don't remember? Probably because it doesn't matter.

Relax, if they show up disinterested once the season begins then maybe start to worry, but even then didn't they play .500 hockey last season in October and still manage 104 points? This team isn't perfect, but to jump on them because they are 2-3 in the preseason is way to premature. Nobody wins anything in Sept, just like the don't in July when everyone was criticizing the team for not signing UFA's.

It's a long season.

I think you miss my point. I am not concerned about the preseason. I am concerned about this team playing so many prospects that all of BC and most of the NHL knows won't make this team. Let them play in the NHL next pre-season. Right now it is vital to get off to a good start and ride that momentum to the post season and hopefully beyond.

I also responded to the statement that the Canucks expectations were unrealistic. They are not. This is a good team, and is a legitimit contender. So to see a lack lustre performance, while not indicative of the true season, does show that the Canucks have not learned from taking off, what, 80% of the games last season. How many 60 minute games did they put in?

My point is, the preseason can be used as a stepping stone, just like the final few months. It all builds on something, and it is disheartning to see this team perfoming with no regards for the fans that paid full price to watch a team that managed 4 shots in the 3rd period.

I think you miss my point. I am not concerned about the preseason. I am concerned about this team playing so many prospects that all of BC and most of the NHL knows won't make this team. Let them play in the NHL next pre-season. Right now it is vital to get off to a good start and ride that momentum to the post season and hopefully beyond.

I also responded to the statement that the Canucks expectations were unrealistic. They are not. This is a good team, and is a legitimit contender. So to see a lack lustre performance, while not indicative of the true season, does show that the Canucks have not learned from taking off, what, 80% of the games last season. How many 60 minute games did they put in?

My point is, the preseason can be used as a stepping stone, just like the final few months. It all builds on something, and it is disheartning to see this team perfoming with no regards for the fans that paid full price to watch a team that managed 4 shots in the 3rd period.

Don't worry...the nucks will play their full team for the final 2 games.

Also, next time buy form scalpers. 2 tix for $50 for me :D

I think you miss my point. I am not concerned about the preseason. I am concerned about this team playing so many prospects that all of BC and most of the NHL knows won't make this team. Let them play in the NHL next pre-season. Right now it is vital to get off to a good start and ride that momentum to the post season and hopefully beyond.

I also responded to the statement that the Canucks expectations were unrealistic. They are not. This is a good team, and is a legitimit contender. So to see a lack lustre performance, while not indicative of the true season, does show that the Canucks have not learned from taking off, what, 80% of the games last season. How many 60 minute games did they put in?

My point is, the preseason can be used as a stepping stone, just like the final few months. It all builds on something, and it is disheartning to see this team perfoming with no regards for the fans that paid full price to watch a team that managed 4 shots in the 3rd period.

I think I understood it, I just disagree. They started slow last Oct and still had a record season. Do I hope they get off to a fast start, sure, but do I think it is vital to the overall success of the season, of course not. There are going to be ups and downs over the course of an 82 game schedule and that long of a season leaves some margin for error.

I also disagree about playing prospects. This is a good time to evaluate these guys and make an assessment as to whether or not management feels they can contribute this season. That goes a long way in shaping the roster and deciding how to fill any holes they feel may exist. 10 games is a long schedule as well, and most team play far less so it gives them the luxury of keeping the kids up a little longer and gives them a longer look. The last few preseason games will be for the vets to get ready for the season. Why risk the chance of some freak injury to a veteran during a long preseason just to win a few more meaningless games? These guys are professionals, a few games is plenty to get geared up for a long season.

This is a good time to evaluate these guys and make an assessment as to whether or not management feels they can contribute this season. That goes a long way in shaping the roster and deciding how to fill any holes they feel may exist.

The preseason is a time for your team to bond IMO... if you know what the team is, there is no reason for the team to give players tryouts unless they are outstanding... and only Keslar and Bouck fall into that category IMO.

I know what you are saying, but realistically they will be in the MInors. So let them focus on that and learn good habits from that perspective.

You very easily could be right in this matter. I just disagree. :p

The preseason is a time for your team to bond IMO... if you know what the team is, there is no reason for the team to give players tryouts unless they are outstanding... and only Keslar and Bouck fall into that category IMO.

I know what you are saying, but realistically they will be in the MInors. So let them focus on that and learn good habits from that perspective.

You very easily could be right in this matter. I just disagree. :p

I disagree with a lot of what you said.

It's a pre-season game. You know the players won't be trying as hard. If that bugs you so much save your money a buy a ticket for the regular season. The pre-season matters for almost nothing.

Why send the prospects down to the Moose? They play there all year anyway. That would be a waste of the pre-season. When they're up playing games with the big boys they get more experienced because they play at a higher level and the Canucks coaching staff gets a better look at them. Besides do you really want the chances of a star player like Naslund, Bertuzzi, Ohlund, Jovo, Cloutier, Morrison, etc going down with an injury being increased? They only need 3 games or so to get going. I'm not just saying this. NHL players have said they only need around 3 games.

I think you're all missing the point.. It's actually quite brilliant that the Canucks have managed to stretch the season into 92 games (excluding playoffs) and have people generate such stress over their performance in pre-season games. From a revenue perspective, the team gets all the revenue from the pre-season and post season games and doesn't even pay the players. In the pre-season they can use a bunch of minor leaguers so they don't wear out the star players and they still charge a huge amount to attend. Add the consession revenues to that and I'd say you have a pretty good understanding of the purpose of the pre-season. They're simply taking advantage of a bunch of hockey fans desperate for the season to start. The solution to all the stress of course is actually very simple.....if you don't like to pay a bunch of money to watch minor league players don't go to the game.