Anaheim Angels Discussion Thread

Well, since there's no hockey, these boards are kind of dead since all there is to talk about is the Baby Ducks and the prospects. So, I figured I'd start a thread about Anaheim's other team, the Angels.

Angels 1-0 to start the season, facing Texas tonight. They're in the 11th inning, tied 2-2, but I'm not too sure what's happening, as I can only see the gameday thing on mlb.com. Texas has a guy on base(2nd), though, with 1 out.





P.S. I know Moreno changed the name to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, but I think that is the dumbest name ever created, so I just refer to them as either the "Angels" or the "Anaheim Angels".

I'm watching it now.

I'm watching it now.

Who's up at the plate?

Who's up at the plate?
Erstad w/ 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd

Excuse me.. LOS ANGELES Angels of Anaheim....

Excuse me.. LOS ANGELES Angels of Anaheim....
It's still hard to adjust to.

Excuse me.. LOS ANGELES Angels of Anaheim....

Notice the "P.S" at the bottom. Frankly, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim is the dumbest name ever, and because of the media, the city of Anaheim has a fair shot at winning their lawsuit or whatever they're doing.

While he does spend money and all, I've seen that alot of people don't like Mr.Moreno. He's almost rid all the big name players from 2002(he'll get it done soon), and hasn't kept his desire to move to Los Angeles quiet. He wants to be part of L.A. so badly, he's named the team the most ridiculous name in the history of sports. :shakehead

Texas reclaims the lead in the 12th with a 1 run home run...

Texas reclaims the lead in the 12th with a 1 run home run...
...And the Angels lose in the 12th 3-2 :shakehead

Oh.. I was just joking about the LA Angels thing. It sounded funny when I thought about it in my head.

Molina with a three-run shot off Dickey to save John Lackey's @$$. 6-4 Angels in the bottom of the sixth.

Angels spanking the Royals 7-1 after last night's embarassing loss to them. Gregg's looked not bad so far, so much that if Byrd sucks, he could replace him in the rotation.

The Halos try to take 2 out of 3 from the A's in about 15 minutes.

The Halos try to take 2 out of 3 from the A's in about 15 minutes.
They probably will if their top players can actually manage to get a hit today.

Hopefully Lackey can pitch like Washburn did yesterday.

Well, they're off to a better start than yesterday; Vlad with a 2 run homer in the 1st.

Doesn't look like Lackey is going to pitch like Washburn did...A's tie the game in the bottom of the 1st.

Angels lose 7-6...Lackey gets run support but gives up all 7 runs. :shakehead

I was at the game last night, man that has to be the ugliest great outing I have ever seen. It seemed like Seattle was ready to bust it open almost every inning and Byrd got out of trouble each time.

Still think with as lousy as Lackey has been the Halos need to aquire another arm at the deadline or sooner.

I was at the game last night, man that has to be the ugliest great outing I have ever seen. It seemed like Seattle was ready to bust it open almost every inning and Byrd got out of trouble each time.

Still think with as lousy as Lackey has been the Halos need to aquire another arm at the deadline or sooner.

I hope to god they trade for a starting pitcher. Livan Hernandez would be a nice addition, as well as maybe someone like Josh Beckett. I could definetely see their respective teams trading them, so hopefully Stoneman could swing a deal for at least one of the two.

Lackey has been pretty God awful. Hasn't had a good outing yet. Kevin Gregg sucks too, but at least they'll get Escobar back soon. Vladdy with another HR today.

I hope to god they trade for a starting pitcher. Livan Hernandez would be a nice addition, as well as maybe someone like Josh Beckett. I could definetely see their respective teams trading them, so hopefully Stoneman could swing a deal for at least one of the two.
Beckett is going nowhere at all. At the deadline if FLA was out of contention which is unlikely that they will be, Burnett and Leiter would be the only 2 I think that would be available. Burnett only because he's gonna be a free agent and if we suck, the owner won't wanna pay him that much.

We should just conceed a game that Gregg starts. Eliminates the risk of injury, and I won't have to watch Figgins and J. Molina fanning 15,050,123,234,623,132,521,253 times with men on base.

Can't wait for Escobar to return...Hopefully he can get some run support this year.

Beckett is going nowhere at all. At the deadline if FLA was out of contention which is unlikely that they will be, Burnett and Leiter would be the only 2 I think that would be available. Burnett only because he's gonna be a free agent and if we suck, the owner won't wanna pay him that much.

Burnett then. I honestly prefer Burnett, but just didn't see Florida dealing him.

Saw that Bartolo pitched 8 innings of shutout baseball. Only gave up 4 hits to the Indians. Frankie closed it out for the save. We're one game over .500 again!

Kelvim Escobar takes the mound for the 1st time of the season today for the Halos...Hopefully he can pitch like last year but this time get run support.

Notice the "P.S" at the bottom. Frankly, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim is the dumbest name ever, and because of the media, the city of Anaheim has a fair shot at winning their lawsuit or whatever they're doing.

While he does spend money and all, I've seen that alot of people don't like Mr.Moreno. He's almost rid all the big name players from 2002(he'll get it done soon), and hasn't kept his desire to move to Los Angeles quiet. He wants to be part of L.A. so badly, he's named the team the most ridiculous name in the history of sports. :shakehead

Oh. but he signed that big name top 5 player in the game instead. Oh. and he also won the MVP as an Angel. :biglaugh:

Keeping that same 2002 team in 2003 got you where? and w/o the player mentioned above, no way you made 2004 playoffs. :biglaugh:

Oh. but he signed that big name top 5 player in the game instead. Oh. and he also won the MVP as an Angel. :biglaugh:

Keeping that same 2002 team in 2003 got you where? and w/o the player mentioned above, no way you made 2004 playoffs. :biglaugh:

Adding Vlad, that was a good thing.

Ridding pretty much every player from a team that won the World Series 3 whole years ago, that's not really a good thing, especially how it all turned out. Some of the moves, I'd agree with, but moves such as cutting Eckstein so he could overpay for Cabrera and letting Glaus go without arbitration were terrible.

Adding Vlad, that was a good thing.

Ridding pretty much every player from a team that won the World Series 3 whole years ago, that's not really a good thing, especially how it all turned out. Some of the moves, I'd agree with, but moves such as cutting Eckstein so he could overpay for Cabrera and letting Glaus go without arbitration were terrible.

eckstein had one good season - the WS season. Halo's did not overpay for Cabrera, rather they paid market value for him. They overpaid in relative value towards what eckstein was making.

Glaus was a #'s game. Halo's already spent money in other areas. plus, not complying with his contract demands for an injury prone player was a good move - despite the lack of anyone at 3B right now. Remember Halo's are paying Salmon a ton of money when he isn't probably going to play this season.

I thought they were the LA Angels now?

I thought they were the LA Angels now?
They are but they are still in Anaheim.

Escobar pitched awesome today and although he didn't get much run support, it was enough for the Halos to win 1-0 on Finley's homerun. Shields got the win.

Escobar pitched awesome today and although he didn't get much run support, it was enough for the Halos to win 1-0 on Finley's homerun. Shields got the win.

That's the thing about Escobar, he never gets good run support.

Great game, though. I thought Cabrera's throw to 3rd with no outs might cost us the game, but good job but Shields not to let that happen.

They are but they are still in Anaheim.

and do the Dallas Cowboys play in Dallas? The NEW YORK Jets/Giants even play in New York? More storied franchises than the Angels... get over it already.

and do the Dallas Cowboys play in Dallas? The NEW YORK Jets/Giants even play in New York? More storied franchises than the Angels... get over it already.

What's your problem? Seriously, all he said was that they still play in Anaheim.

As for the last bit, that may be so, but it was a classless move by Arte Moreno, and it seems he may be the only person in the world who wants it to stay that way.

I like how there are some Angels fans holding up "Anaheim" signs behind home plate.

and do the Dallas Cowboys play in Dallas? The NEW YORK Jets/Giants even play in New York? More storied franchises than the Angels... get over it already.
I was just answering a question...wasn't complaining!

What's your problem? Seriously, all he said was that they still play in Anaheim.

As for the last bit, that may be so, but it was a classless move by Arte Moreno, and it seems he may be the only person in the world who wants it to stay that way.

And it seems to me that all those so-called upset fans over a city name change have stayed away from the park in protest. Halo's are drawing 35K midweek and about 90%+ capacity on the weekends.

Im not trying to rub anything in, but I was curious so I thought I'd ask you baseball fans. Why are the Anaheim Angels now called the LA Angels?

I was just answering a question...wasn't complaining!

that's fine. And his question was the LA Angels. He never referenced that the team moved out of ANA, just that the name changed.

Im not trying to rub anything in, but I was curious so I thought I'd ask you baseball fans. Why are the Anaheim Angels now called the LA Angels?

Because the owner listened to the fans and reduced concession and merchandise prices at the games. He needed to make up for the loss in revenue somehow. :biglaugh:

Because the owner listened to the fans and reduced concession and merchandise prices at the games. He needed to make up for the loss in revenue somehow. :biglaugh:

How does he gain revenue from this? He hasn't gotten any more coverage for the games(the goal of the name change), and if the Dodgers keep it up, he won't get any. If anything he's losing money because he's gained nothing from this but is in court with the city of Anaheim for it.

Attendence is still good, but most fans aren't going to quit going to games because the name changed. I do know of some fans that no longer cheer for the team because of his moves, but there are few. I don't, however, know of any new fans of the team because of his moves.

BTW, it's not just the fans in protest. While alot of them are in protest(as seen with the 'Anaheim' signs being shown at games), the cities of Anaheim and Los Angeles are fighting it, and probably the Dodgers organization is fighting it. I can't imagine there is a single person not named Arte Moreno who likes this name change, and if there is one, heck, if there's quite a few, they're probably outnumbered by a ratio of 100,000 to 1 or more.

How does he gain revenue from this? He hasn't gotten any more coverage for the games(the goal of the name change), and if the Dodgers keep it up, he won't get any. If anything he's losing money because he's gained nothing from this but is in court with the city of Anaheim for it.

Attendence is still good, but most fans aren't going to quit going to games because the name changed. I do know of some fans that no longer cheer for the team because of his moves, but there are few. I don't, however, know of any new fans of the team because of his moves.

BTW, it's not just the fans in protest. While alot of them are in protest(as seen with the 'Anaheim' signs being shown at games), the cities of Anaheim and Los Angeles are fighting it, and probably the Dodgers organization is fighting it. I can't imagine there is a single person not named Arte Moreno who likes this name change, and if there is one, heck, if there's quite a few, they're probably outnumbered by a ratio of 100,000 to 1 or more.

it's not about who likes it. Moreno's argument is very simple. He is pigeon holed into a narrow market in ANA by using the ANA name. However, using the LA name (along with the LA market) increases the marketplace, exposure, awareness, etc. The more people in the pool, the larger the price to others.

Sorry, most people identify Anaheim with 3 things: Disneyland, the past 5 years the Angels - mainly because of Disney then Moreno, and the Mighty Ducks - again because of Disney.

This would be like NY Islanders using Long Island Islanders or Nassau Islanders instead of New York Islanders. What is the larger marketplace? Obviously, NY - same with LA. On the other hand, the Buffalo Sabres call themselves Buff, not NY because it's recognized as a different region - same with SF, Oak, Sac, SJ, etc... And in the rarest of cases, look at NE Patriots. That "NE" location covers 5 states! Would they reduce their market share if they called themselves Boston instead (eventhough they don't even play in boston - about 45 mins south in Foxboro)? Sure.

If fans were so ticked, they would protest in the few ways they can: withhold their money, do not attend games, do not buy merchandise, etc. Here, that's not the case. Very few people are reacting that way. So, Moreno stood up to the initial heat, then the whining has muffled. It will play out in the courts, but really if ANA loses, people are still going to the games.

Why do the Dodgers matter? Really, if anything, the Angels have benefitted TREMENDOUSLY from terrible past Dodger teams that allowed the Dodger fanbase to grow tired of the same retreads not performing. Many SoCal flip-floppers went with the winning team (what a surprise). No surprise attendance went through the roof too. Poof! 5 years ago, the Angels burst on the scene, start winning, win WS, sign ALL STAR players with brand name recognition - Moreno did that not only to help the team, but to capitalize on faceless Dodger team that had no identity, no star players, nothing really...

All over LA you see Angels garb, advertising on billboards, buses, people wearing hats, jerseys, etc...people identify with winning. Angels won when Dodgers were bad. They have gained a marketplace in LA whether OC/ANA people like their identity crisis or not.

On the other hand, the Buffalo Sabres call themselves Buff, not NY because it's recognized as a different region - same with SF, Oak, Sac, SJ, etc...

The only region that's different in this example is Sacramento (Central Valley). San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose are all considered "Bay Area" (San Jose may be more Peninsula). Oakland is right over the Bay Bridge and San Jose is 35 minutes down the Peninsula. If these can be considered individual regions, then Orange County and Anaheim can definitely be considered separate from Los Angeles. OC has a very separate identity from LA and LA County. People from the outside don't understand that; I didn't until I started working in Irvine.

The Angels have been associated with OC and Anaheim for forty years, or there abouts, and to have the name changed now is like a slap in the face. Why is it that no one in OC really cared that the Rams were the LA Rams even when they moved from the LA Coliseum to Anaheim Stadium, but this name change has hit such a nerve?

You condenscendingly call it an "identity crisis" and tell people to "get over it." The thing is, there is no identity crisis. It seems to me (someone who lives in LA county) that people in OC have a very clear idea of their own identity and it's not LA.

I don't really care one way or another but I can understand how people in OC feel. But really, even though I know Moreno did it for legal reasons, the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" just sounds silly.

I do care about the Ducks, and Samueli has already said he won't change the name from Anaheim to LA (why does an Islander fan care so much?). But I kind of like the name the "Anaheim Angels" of the NHL. The Angels might not be using it anymore, but the Ducks could. ;)

You condenscendingly call it an "identity crisis" and tell people to "get over it." The thing is, there is no identity crisis. It seems to me (someone who lives in LA county) that people in OC have a very clear idea of their own identity and it's not LA.

I don't really care one way or another but I can understand how people in OC feel. But really, even though I know Moreno did it for legal reasons, the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" just sounds silly.

I do care about the Ducks, and Samueli has already said he won't change the name from Anaheim to LA (why does an Islander fan care so much?). But I kind of like the name the "Anaheim Angels" of the NHL. The Angels might not be using it anymore, but the Ducks could. ;)

You make reference to ANA then OC then ANA. Yes, there is a difference in perception, identity, reality between the two counties. However, ANA is a city within Orange County. Any reason Moreno didn't go with Orange County Angels or OC Angels instead?

While this all may seem like a 'local' issue, it's also a larger market issue. As I said above, most people don't associate ANA with anything other than Disney, Angels, Ducks. Beyond that, most people have heard of OC (even before the show), but it's not as recognizable name as the locals think in terms of market share. Moreno wants to capitalize on the LA market recognition, which is by far larger than OC. - this is not knocking OC folks, it's just that it does not have the same force in the public/private market than LA.

NYI play in Nassau County, but are called NY. They are in different counties than Manhattan - aka NY Rangers. Much to your surprise, most of the Long Island population wants nothing to do with Manhattan (NYC) beyond those that work in NYC and live in LI. However, NYI benefit from being NY, not LI or NC, etc even over the differences in population, lifestyle, etc.

With regard to the Ducks. I think they gotta drop the Mighty for one. Remember, the Ducks were on the top of merchandising/popularity during the cartoon era - the sametime Disney had thousands of Disney stores in malls across america. Warner Bros. did the same. Now, WB eliminated their stores and Disney has sold most and redesigned theirs 3 times already (lately into a Toys R Us idea). That era is over and the same with the engine that drove it. A re-launch under new ownership, post-cba might be a good thing.

I'm sure they could keep the name DUCKS and go with a more aggresive moniker, logo, color scheme (like the Pens have over the years).

Meanwhile, on the field the Angels took 2 out of 3 from the no longer mighty Yankees. This after Colon got waxed by A-Rod for 3 HR in the series opener. Good job of bouncing back from the Angels.

Also McPherson has been hitting better, which is good PR for the Halos since Glaus has been lighting it up for the DBacks.

On to Minnesota.

Great job taking 2 of 3 from the Yanks. Washburn looked great on Wednesday, and hopefully he keeps it up.

I do think, though, that we desperately need another starter. Hopefully we can convince some team with a pitcher we could use, like Washington or Chicago or some team like that, to trade one to us. It'd definetely help during the season and possibly playoffs.

Great job taking 2 of 3 from the Yanks. Washburn looked great on Wednesday, and hopefully he keeps it up.

I do think, though, that we desperately need another starter. Hopefully we can convince some team with a pitcher we could use, like Washington or Chicago or some team like that, to trade one to us. It'd definetely help during the season and possibly playoffs.
Yeah I know what you mean. Our starters are Colon, Escobar, Washburn, Lackey and Byrd. With Gregg stepping in if anyone gets injured (please God no). The first three are pretty solid. I'm not too confident with Lackey...he gets flustered too easily, and is inconsistent. Byrd is alright, but nothing to get excited about. Another starter would be nice. By Chicago do you mean the Sox or the Cubs?

Yeah I know what you mean. Our starters are Colon, Escobar, Washburn, Lackey and Byrd. With Gregg stepping in if anyone gets injured (please God no). The first three are pretty solid. I'm not too confident with Lackey...he gets flustered too easily, and is inconsistent. Byrd is alright, but nothing to get excited about. Another starter would be nice. By Chicago do you mean the Sox or the Cubs?

Both, kind of. The Cubs have Prior and Wood, and while I doubt either is tradeable, I could see them dealing Wood if the deal was right. I also like Glendon Rusch, who I think would be an upgrade over Byrd.

The Sox have some major depth, although I'm not sure they'd deal any of them. I'm a real fan of Jon Garland, who I think could be acquired fairly easily.

Damn, I wish Moreno would've gotten Pedro. The rotation would've been awesome if we could've signed him, even if it meant no Cabrera. I'm sure he could've gotten both anyway, though.

This is the first year I've watched more then 2 baseball games in a year. Main reason is because my team is awesome this year, so far anyway. The Whitesox have completely changed the way they play this year and so far it's working. As far as the pitching staff goes, it wouldn't be impossible to get one away from them. People thought Loaiza was untouchable last year and he's now in a yankee uniform.

If you're wondering how I'm a fan of the Sox. I've lived in alot of places in my life. Anaheim, Chicago, North Carolina, oklahoma, etc... I started watching certain sports at certain times when I was younger. When I lived in Chicago, I started watching football and baseball, so naturally I became fans of the Bears and Sox. Same thing happened in hockey when I lived near Anaheim.

People thought Loaiza was untouchable last year and he's now in a yankee uniform.

He was in a Yankee uniform.


Now he plays for Washington. And has to bat.

Angels avoid being swept by Twins with a 2-1 victory.
The Halos snapped Johan Santana's 17 game winning streak with a two hitter...two solo shots by Vlad and Jose Molina... Bartolo Colon got the win, pitching 7 1/3 innings of two hit baseball before he tweaked his ankle...K-Rod with the save, although he did give up a homerun.

That was one hell of a battle between Santana and Colon.

Great game.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-anaheim4may04,1,4595594.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

Angels Lose Round to Anaheim
Assembly committee approves bill that would require team to put disclaimer on tickets

After the Angels had taken another public beating over their name change, with state legislators about to vote on a bill that could embarrass the team every time it sells a ticket, the presiding official asked whether anyone wished to speak in opposition to the bill.

...By a 9-0 vote, the Assembly Committee on Arts, Entertainment, Sports, Tourism and Internet Media approved a bill that would force the Angels to include a disclaimer on tickets and advertisements indicating the team plays in Anaheim, not Los Angeles.

Assemblyman Tom Umberg (D-Garden Grove), whose district includes Angel Stadium, said the Angels are fraudulently marketing themselves as a Los Angeles team.

...Umberg justified legislative intervention by drawing a parallel to warning labels required on orange juice that contains no juice.

"This product contains no Los Angeles," Umberg said, drawing chuckles in the hearing room.


:biglaugh: I find this all pretty funny.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-anaheim4may04,1,4595594.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

Angels Lose Round to Anaheim
Assembly committee approves bill that would require team to put disclaimer on tickets

After the Angels had taken another public beating over their name change, with state legislators about to vote on a bill that could embarrass the team every time it sells a ticket, the presiding official asked whether anyone wished to speak in opposition to the bill.

...By a 9-0 vote, the Assembly Committee on Arts, Entertainment, Sports, Tourism and Internet Media approved a bill that would force the Angels to include a disclaimer on tickets and advertisements indicating the team plays in Anaheim, not Los Angeles.

Assemblyman Tom Umberg (D-Garden Grove), whose district includes Angel Stadium, said the Angels are fraudulently marketing themselves as a Los Angeles team.

...Umberg justified legislative intervention by drawing a parallel to warning labels required on orange juice that contains no juice.

"This product contains no Los Angeles," Umberg said, drawing chuckles in the hearing room.


:biglaugh: I find this all pretty funny.
Funny, until you realize Moreno will just say, "fine, I'll move the team to LA."

Funny, until you realize Moreno will just say, "fine, I'll move the team to LA."

And then the city of Anaheim reminds Moreno of the lease that forces the team to not only play in Anaheim but also keep "Anaheim" in it's name. If Moreno could move to LA, he would've a long time ago.

If Moreno continues to market them as an LA team, hopefully the judges rule that they gotta take the "Los Angeles" out. The city Anaheim is probably losing tons of revenue from this(their #1 source of revenue are hotels, and some tourists, thinking they're the LA Angels, will mayy stay in hotels in LA). Putting the disclaimer on, though, is a step in the right direction.

And then the city of Anaheim reminds Moreno of the lease that forces the team to not only play in Anaheim but also keep "Anaheim" in it's name. If Moreno could move to LA, he would've a long time ago.

If Moreno continues to market them as an LA team, hopefully the judges rule that they gotta take the "Los Angeles" out. The city Anaheim is probably losing tons of revenue from this(their #1 source of revenue are hotels, and some tourists, thinking they're the LA Angels, will mayy stay in hotels in LA). Putting the disclaimer on, though, is a step in the right direction.
Right but the city of Anaheim, love them as I do, has had little success in blocking Moreno's "moves" to this point.

I'm going to tomorrow night's Angels/Tigers game. I haven't been to an Angel game since 2003. Looking forward to it!

The city Anaheim is probably losing tons of revenue from this.

Don't kid yourself buddy. Disney has that town all locked up. The city isn't hurting a bit. It's more personal than anything else.

The city Anaheim is probably losing tons of revenue from this(their #1 source of revenue are hotels, and some tourists, thinking they're the LA Angels, will mayy stay in hotels in LA). Putting the disclaimer on, though, is a step in the right direction.

From where? Tourists go to "Anaheim" to go to Disneyland, not see the Angels. Baseball fan-tourists will either stay in LA or ANA, but most likely will travel to BOTH cities to see BOTH teams play. No different than before.

As an aside - during the 2002 WS, what airport did all the MLB personnel from NY fly to? Not, Orange County. Not LAX. That would be Long Beach and they stayed at ANA hotels. What county is Long Beach again?

People do research as tourists. They don't blindly select to stay in LA. Most people would stay close to the destinations of THEIR CHOICE.

Long Beach Airport is probably as close to Anaheim as John Wayne Airport mileage-wise. Long Beach is the southeastern most city in L.A. county (right on the border of L.A.-O.C.) and the airport is in east LB about 3-4 miles from the county border.

People may decide to catch a game if they are in town, but I don't think many people fly to either L.A. or O.C. as a destination specifically to see a baseball game unless it's a playoff game. I doubt much of tourist revenue (as a percentage of total revenue) is generated because of MLB during the regular season.

Last night rookie call-up Ervin Santana pitched a complete game shutout against the ChiSox, owners of the best record in both the AL and NL, in his 2nd start (1st one didn't go so well vs. Cleveland) to earn his 1st MLB win! :handclap:

He's been pitching in place of Kelvim Escobar who is injured at the moment...Hopefully Escobar will be back soon, along with Vlad and K-Rod but I'm glad to see Santana's stamina, plus this is good experience.

Looks like Santana's big game might've kept another top prospect in town. Jered Weaver signed at the 11th hour last night, finally giving up and signing for what the Angels offered($4 million). Boras was probably using that the Angels don't have alot of pitching prospects close to MLB-ready yet, and then Santana came in and had an absolute gem. Either way, good to see Weaver signed, as he's such a good prospect, and it would've hurt to lose him.

The Ducks had a goalie, Steve Shields. The Angels have a reliever, Scot Shields.

The Ducks have a prospect, Joel Perrault. The Angels have a reliever, Joel Peralta.

Just odd I thought.

it's the LOS ANGELES ANGELS!

it's the LOS ANGELES ANGELS!

Read the first page.

And my avatar while you're at it.

it's the LOS ANGELES ANGELS!
Actually, its the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.


The Angels are in a great position to be a dominant franchise through out the next decade. Not only do they have a ton of talent on the major league roster to go with a lot of available cash to flow into the team in successive years, but are stocked for the future as well. Absolutely amazing what they have been able to put together, they should make Anaheim fans happy for a very long time.

Ervin Santana makes his 3rd start vs. the Nationals tonight since Kelvim Escobar is out with a bone spur. I wanna see another shutout!

Garret Anderson drove in his 998th, 999th and 1,000th career RBI's today in a 5-3 win over the Dodgers, whom the Angels swept. Good Job G.A.!!! :clap: The Angels are now 45-29 for the season. They have the highest batting average in June and their pitching era leads all of the MLB for the whole season. :yo:

I really hope we go deep in the playoffs this year. The trade deadline should be interesting. I wonder if we'll add anything?

I really hope we go deep in the playoffs this year. The trade deadline should be interesting. I wonder if we'll add anything?

I've been hearing rumors of Jason Schmidt and Mike Sweeney. If the price is right, hopefully we add one, or maybe both of them.

I've been hearing rumors of Jason Schmidt and Mike Sweeney. If the price is right, hopefully we add one, or maybe both of them.
Yeah, those guys would be nice to add, but at what price?

Yeah, those guys would be nice to add, but at what price?

Sweeney-I've heard KC wants a first base prospect. Hopefully not Kotchman, though. Morales should do fine, and hopefully would.

Schmidt-Who knows? Hopefully they'd be interested in a young guy like Lackey and a prospect, or maybe even Byrd and a prospect.

Sweeney-I've heard KC wants a first base prospect. Hopefully not Kotchman, though. Morales should do fine, and hopefully would.

Schmidt-Who knows? Hopefully they'd be interested in a young guy like Lackey and a prospect, or maybe even Byrd and a prospect.
If they could get Sweeney and Schmidt by only giving up Morales, Lackey and another prospect, I'd be stoked. I just have a hard time believing the Giants would give him up for that.

If they could get Sweeney and Schmidt by only giving up Morales, Lackey and another prospect, I'd be stoked. I just have a hard time believing the Giants would give him up for that.

I doubt they would, but one can hope for it. That would be very sweet.

I doubt they would, but one can hope for it. That would be very sweet.
I think it'll come down to what Bonds does. I think if he doesn't play this season, they have a firesale, and try and rebuild.

I think it'll come down to what Bonds does. I think if he doesn't play this season, they have a firesale, and try and rebuild.

I agree. Now that he's off the roids, I see him maybe coming back for a while, and then possibly getting injured again.

A sign of any firesale will be free agent pickups Moises Alou, Mike Matheny and Omar Visquel getting traded. They're all old, and if they start to go, the big boys like Schmidt will follow.